Impossible d'effectuer la restauration de la sauvegarde Money sous XP sur W10
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Hello everyone,
I was using Microsoft Money 2005 on Windows XP on a Parallels Desktop partition on my MacBook Pro 2017 without any issues (for over 20 years now!)
An accident with water on my computer last week forced me to buy a new MacBook Pro 2021 (with M1 chip). This computer is still functional but its lifespan is uncertain. I still have access to Microsoft Money 2005 on Windows XP and would like to transfer my Money data to this new Mac. As part of my Time Machine reinstallation, Parallels Desktop bundled Windows 11. I was able to install Microsoft Money 2005 but my backup did not work (the file is corrupted, not valid or repairable). So, after multiple difficulties, I reinstalled Windows 10 ARM Insider Preview and reinstalled Microsoft Money 2005 (the last version released by Microsoft: I get the same error messages regardless of the actions taken):
Message 1 (opening the backup file) C:/program files/name is damaged or is not a Microsoft Money file. The attempt to repair the file failed. Open your latest backup copy to access your data.
Message 2 (opening the source file or Backup): Unable to find 'C:/Backup Money.mbf' or open it because it is likely a read-only file or you do not have permission to modify it, or your drive is write-protected. If you have selected the correct file and still cannot access it, you need to click OK and open your most recent backup file. If the file is in use by another application, close it in that application and then click OK to try again.
For the past five days, I have tried everything I found on the forums (renaming the file, ensuring it is not read-only, putting the file in the shortest path possible, reinstalling Money, etc. etc.). Nothing works! Failure failure failure...
I feel like I am living on borrowed time with this tracking software that I have been recognized for using perfectly to track my assets, liabilities, bank accounts, etc. 20 years of tracking erased just like that?
Do you think that because my current Money file is established on Windows XP (on Intel chip), it cannot be transferred to Windows 10 Pro (on M1 chip)? Installing Windows 10 on ARM seems essential to me to make Money work, which I confirm is installed without issue from the .exe file provided for free by Microsoft. It’s the backup that doesn’t seem to be functional...
I am disheartened and sincerely hope to find among you the help that will allow me to use my last backup (121 MB).
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Hello,
121 MB is considerable and looking for trouble; for my part, I just export every year in native mny format (saved on an external drive) and then purge the corresponding year in Money, each file typically being less than 10 MB, but that may not be the point.
An mbf file is just data, we've seen it all, but I don't see why it would depend on the processor or the operating system.
We can check the "validity" of the installation in a simple way: we create a dummy mny file on the new machine, export it in mbf format, then try to re-import it to see what happens, do the same test with a backup in native mny format.
Another cause, apart from read-only, could be of course the UAC intervention (set to the lowest level) and the fact that Windows systematically blocks a file considered to come from an external source: by right-clicking and checking properties, verify not only in security the effective rights of the current user on this file, but also the existence of "this file is blocked" to uncheck.
We can also take the reverse approach as long as the XP machine still works: open Money, export to a new mbf backup in case it is corrupted (and this is all the more likely to happen with a large volume) or possibly starting from a copy of the working mny file if exporting mny-purging in successive iterations of 2 or 3 years at a time starting from the oldest years to eventually test from the exported mny file representing the last 3 years.
Hello ....
Just passing by ...
- Can you provide the source for downloading this MsMoney 2005 version ► Microsoft ► Which site?
- Are the backup usernames the same on both PCs running Windows?
Cheers
Thank you for your feedback.
The source for downloading this MsMoney 2005 version is Microsoft. I can't recall the site, but I found it very easily. If needed, I can send you this .exe file.
As for my credentials (Username), the backups are the same on both PCs running Windows. I save my Money XP backup on an external drive that I am trying to open without success on Windows 10 Pro.
It is very frustrating not to understand why something that works perfectly on XP appears to be corrupted on Windows 10.
Re.....
In principle, the name of the MsMoney file is ► Money2005-FR-QFE3.exe (Same as Here)
If it's the same, there shouldn't be any issues in my opinion...
For your information, MsMoney still works very well on all versions of Windows ...including W11
As for me, here’s what I would do to try to resolve the issue encountered provided you have a recoverable valid backup
- Uninstall MsMoney completely and cleanly on both machines following the instructions at ► This link
- Restart both PCs
- Reinstall MsMoney from ► This link on both PCs
- Simulate a "dummy" account by entering some transactions on 1 PC (XP or 10) ► Save to USB drive ► Start MsMoney on the other machine from this backup
If this works, and it should work I think..... If so, restart MsMoney on one of the PCs via the cumulative years backup ...and if that works, do the same on the second PC... and if that doesn’t work, I think this backup is problematic...??
Cheers
Thank you thank you for all your advice.
I completely and properly uninstalled MsMoney on the 2 machines following the given instructions, then restarted both PCs (accessible via Parallels Desktop).
I reinstalled Microsoft Money 2005 on both PCs from the file provided in the link (the same version of Money on both PCs).
I created a new "dummy" account by entering a few transactions on one PC, saved it to a USB drive, and successfully launched MsMoney on the other machine from this backup.
But it does not work with my Historical backup: the same error message reappears "C:/program files/name is damaged or is not a Microsoft Money file. The attempt to repair the file failed. Open your last backup copy to access your data."
I specify that my historical backup was successfully restored on my XP PC. The size of it does not seem to have caused any issues.
I don't understand anything. It's enough to make one despair.
Re .....
If I understood correctly, everything is fine on both PCs after simulating a "dummy" account with a few transactions for testing .... which means that MsMoney works very well on both machines with the backups of this dummy account.....
However, Windows 10, and only it, does not accept the backup of accumulated transactions made on an external hard drive, while it works fine on Windows XP ...! (Is that right?)
In my opinion, and this was in my first question, I believe there is an issue with the identifiers that W10 does not accept ► The username, backup path, and MsMoney password, if there is one, are indeed identical on both machines because it "seems" that they are not .... otherwise both Windows would not differentiate and would accept either one .....
I am convinced that XP or W10 are "foreign to the issue encountered unless I am mistaken ..... but it is really a recognition problem that W10 does not make with this backup ... and why this one??
In principle, the hard disk keeps several backups... and what you can try is to look for an older backup on Windows XP and test it on Windows 10
To do this on Windows XP
Launch MsMoney ► File tab at the top left ► Restore a backup copy....
In the window that opens ► Check the box Restore a backup file ► Ask MsMoney to search ...... for an old backup on the hard disk....
Take an available backup that is not too old ... and see if Windows 10 accepts this backup ...
Edit ► As seen in my screenshot, the username and backup path (Location....) must be strictly identical on both machines; otherwise, MsMoney does not accept the backup from one to the other ..(Personally, I have 2 desktop PCs + 1 laptop, and my backups are OK on all 3 machines with identical identifiers ... Regarding the "size of the backups, MsMoney and Windows do not care at all ... personally, I have 17 years of transactions and have never had any issues until today ... however, I have voluntarily chosen the option to backup on CD/RW and this on 4 CD/RW that I burn because my 3 PCs have 1 burner.....(one backup overwriting another....for safety and this has been the case for 17 years with the same CD/RW that some say are unreliable compared to an external hard drive that caused me issues when it failed once ..)
A+
Thank you for these supports! I feel less ALONE!
Indeed, Windows 10 alone does not accept the backup of cumulative movements made on an external hard drive, while everything is fine on Windows XP...!
The username (no MsMoney password is identical on both machines. However, the default AUTOMATIC backup path (C:/) may not be the same on both computers.
I will look into this when I return (I went out to get some fresh air, frustrated by these constant failures).
I will keep you naturally informed!
Thank you a thousand times
Thank you for the feedback... and no worries about the help I can offer you.
I suggest making sure that the identifiers and backup path are strictly identical on both machines because it looks like that's where it's "stuck"...
When you close MsMoney, usually a window opens asking if you want to save or not...
In the Browse area, the paths must be strictly identical on both PCs.
For example, if you are backing up on an external hard drive with the letter F:\ ► F:\MsMoney backup (on both PCs)
See you!
I'm having trouble following you, but it's true that I'm using 2001 and not 2005, the behavior might be different.
It is indeed likely that it is not the mbf file itself that is responsible, but its path as defined in the Money settings of the computer and/or the registry.
However, an mbf file is just a backup; there is definitely a working mny file from which it originates; why not simply copy this mny file to the new PC, where we can then reorganize our backups as we see fit?
The issue of synchronizing files across multiple PCs is of course a consideration if it is the mbf files that are being shared and not the mny files, but I understand that in the case we're interested in, there is nothing to synchronize permanently since the old machine is on its last legs?
Thank you Brucine,
it's really lovely this help you are providing me.
I have double-checked: my folder name .mny is still the same on my Mac with PC on XP and my Mac with PC on Windows 10.
My backup file .mbf is on the Cloud (accessible by both machines) from the same address (Z:/ Money Backup). The main file .mny is also at the same address on the Mac with PC on XP and the other one with Windows 10.
I have indeed already tried to copy the main file to the external hard drive; with no success time and time again.
And you have understood correctly: I do not need synchronization of files on multiple PCs, I have nothing to synchronize permanently as the old machine is on borrowed time....
I am losing it....
There's something I'm missing because it should work, I think .....
Try what is noted below
- Launch MsMoney from Win XP
- When closing MsMoney ► Change the backup path in the options...► Either Browse ► Set to Desktop
- Answer YES to create the backup, and it will be directly on the desktop
- Copy/Paste the backup created on the Win XP desktop to the W10 desktop
- Launch MsMoney from W10 using this backup by right-clicking the backup icon ► Open with ► MsMoney
- In principle, you should get a message like ...Restore ► Yes ...and ????
See you later
And alternatively, as I was saying, if the mny file already exists, you just need to copy it to the new machine, possibly with a different name if there’s a conflict with an already installed file.
Money is quite tricky: it’s not easy to open the file you just copied because Money will open the already existing previous file.
But nothing prevents you, without opening Money, from directly clicking on this new mny file; Money will then open with the file you just copied instead of the previous one.
Hello ...
Having been "stuck" on MsMoney and Windows, I didn't realize you were a Mac user..
For your information, I know 2 software compatible with MsMoney for Mac......they can read and convert a backup made with MsMoney on Windows for Mac
- Accounts & Budget ► See this link ► Also see this link ► Done and resolved by a user ► Here
- iCompta ► See this link ► Done and resolved by a user ► Here
These 2 software are free but for 1 account only...otherwise they cost around €30
You can always try and see what it "gives" ...contact the publisher ...etc...
Not knowing Mac at all, I can't confirm which of these 2 software is the best, but it seems that Accounts & Budget is... Also check ► This recent topic
Bye+
Thank you for this support Jmarion3! It's really nice.
Of course, I work on a Mac, but here it hasn't had any impact so far. Windows is installed in a virtual machine: just like when you install Windows 11 virtually on a PC with Windows 10. It doesn't change anything, it's as if you had a second PC. It's the same on a Mac: for this software, I had installed Windows XP. And that was more than enough for me. So I will continue my tests. As for alternative software, I tried to look for options. NONE has the range of features that Money offers. To be continued.
Thanks for the feedback ......
In fact, you use Windows only to keep MsMoney, which is, in my opinion, undeniably the best personal finance management software despite its advanced age and the fact that it has been abandoned by Microsoft for ages ...
Personally, I no longer have any arrows in my quiver to keep helping you because you need to have all the ingredients in front of you to do so, and it's not practical from a distance.
Good luck and see you for the conclusion of the story.
Best regards
Hello everyone... continuation of my experiments to transfer Microsoft Money to my new MacBook (via Parallels Desktop 17 and 18)
I installed the OS Windows 10 on the flooded MacBook last week through the Parallels Desktop 17 virtual machine (next to Windows XP which I had been using until now). I installed Microsoft Money there: everything works perfectly.
I then copy the file created under Windows 10 and put it on the external hard drive to use it on my new MacBook, which is also equipped with Windows 10. Nothing works: still the same error message.
I left a message with Parallels support because I think the issue comes from the Apple M1 processor (equipping the new Mac) that doesn't support the file written on Intel processor... To be confirmed...
Hello,
Maybe, yes.
In any case, I'm like jmarion3, I'm stuck; the only thing I can confirm is that I've been moving mny files around on different Windows PCs without any problem for ages, I was using them even for work files since the early nineties, XP for sure, maybe even 2000 and Windows 98 before.
If you want, I could test it on my XP virtual machine once I reactivate it (it didn't like the latest formatting), but it's still Windows and I'm not sure it would help the discussion.
Hello!
Well, no, I still haven't found a way to open my Money backup on my Mac M1. Money works perfectly on Windows 10 on my Intel Mac, and so does its backup. I have informed the Parallels teams, who are still unable to understand the issue.
Thank you for the feedback ....
The Parallels teams are still unable to understand the issue. Hoping they look into the problem encountered and find a solution... if there is one?
Have a great day and hope to hear good news soon ??
Regards
Hello,
I have a somewhat comparable issue in the other direction: no way to get Catalina running on Windows 10 to recognize an external monitor higher than 1024x768, whereas it works perfectly fine on XP, Windows 7, Linux...; I don't see why Catalina would not do it in standalone mode, so it's the virtual machine that is the cause.
I'm not very familiar with Mac OS, I don't know if Parallels is integrated "in hard" or if there's a way to test with another version, could that be the cause of the problem?
Miracle! On the advice of the Parallels teams, I uninstalled Windows 10 (which is no longer supported by Microsoft or Parallels) and installed Windows 11. I'm downloading Microsoft Money online again. I start the recovery of the latest backup and what happens? IT WORKS! I was finally able to retrieve all my Money data on Windows 11 via Parallels Desktop. All's well that ends well. I didn't do anything special. It finally worked. I don't understand, but the most important thing is that it works!
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Hello Brucine,
thank you for your feedback. The 120 MB corresponds to my use of Money since 2002... Indeed, it's loud, certainly: could this explain why no backup is working on my new machine? But why does this not pose a problem on my old Mac (running XP)? I also notice that the SBF backup file is exactly the same size as the source .mny file... Strange.
I checked the "validity" of the installation by creating a dummy mny file on my new Mac (running Windows 10 Pro) and then exported it in mbf format and native mny format, then re-imported it: the same test with a backup. Everything works on an empty file without data. On my new Mac, nothing works with my historical file in mbf or mny.
I'm disheartened.