Saracroche: the effective French app against phone spam
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Hello,
unfortunately, it's not just the numbers on these lists that are used; spammers also use completely spoofed mobile numbers starting with 06 and 07, which is strictly prohibited, but these lousy call centers are often located abroad.
The next law mentioned in the article requires French operators to block calls coming from abroad that are dialing unauthorized French numbers and to replace them with a masked call instead. Therefore, one must not forget to block masked calls if they want to avoid spam.
Reading:
https://www.arcep.fr/fileadmin/cru-1765527188/user_upload/86-25-version-francaise.pdf
And there you go ....
But misery, how annoying the line spacing is !!-
Hello,
A number of these applications, most often when their paid version is used, block numbers including non-official telemarketers based on a database maintained by users.
This type of solution can be questionable since I can easily report my mother-in-law or my neighbor to annoy them, and these databases are often of foreign origin, so not the "right" numbers.
That said, and as noted by the article itself, there are a plethora of applications of this kind; I use CallFilter, not to mention that to some extent Google’s phone app has something like this. I don't really see, aside from the sponsored content, why we are presented with a new one every six months.The broader question beyond random calls is that of hacking into databases, which we can do little about even if we don't spread everywhere.
An economically disadvantaged person hacked a database that is likely to be outdated, containing my phone number, resulting in spam, but referencing miraculous operations to be carried out in Antibes, which was only my mother's residence, who had asked me to manage her suppliers online, and thus it was at least 8 years ago.
The blocker only intercepts the tone of the incoming SMS, not the SMS 06 itself, which can be variable.
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My phone does it by itself... I can block all numbers that are not in my contact list, at least you won't be bothered anymore.
If it’s important, they can send a letter.
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Hello,
I'm using: Prefix blocker..great.
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Hello,
It is indeed available on Android and iOS.
Here are the direct links:
- Android: Play Store - F-Droid - APK File (via GitHub)
- iOS: App Store
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Good evening,
I installed it yesterday, and I've only had one blocked call since, marked as "private number" (in the log), but what a joy to no longer have ringtones for unwanted calls (the limitation of the free version of Orange Phone).
However, I didn't understand the difference between private numbers and hidden numbers (maybe they're the same thing).
I'm waiting to see if the unwanted calls that appeared in Orange Phone are listed.
If only there could be something like this for landline phones..
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Hello,
The masked number is temporary (during a call), while the permanent private number (for businesses...).
Other applications, like CallFilter that I mentioned and use, do it silently.
However, it doesn’t have a blacklist filled by the "community" like most free version apps, but we already do most of the work by setting up ranges of allowed caller numbers with wildcard characters. -
Hello brupala,
My setup is too recent and I haven't had any unwanted calls blocked by Sacaroche yet.
The blocked call appears in the log. It's possible I wasn't near the smartphone, but nath confirms that there was silence.
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Thank you for the definition of private/masked. I wouldn't have found it on my own.
I won't fail to come back and confirm my first silent unwanted call.
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Hello,
I have, exceptionally, the message that goes to the voicemail where generally there is nothing or ambient noise or a few texts that I can't intercept.
Calls and texts are blocked, as a rule no ringing, no notification, no messaging, only the application's log shows that there has been an interception.
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Hello everyone,
I was starting to lose hope when I didn’t see any blocked calls since our last exchanges last Friday (just one from a private number), even though my smartphone remained silent except for one legitimate call.
And today, there are 3 blocked calls in the log, 2 from 07 43 and one from 02 70. And all this without a ringtone.
Regarding Orange Freephone, nothing to block manually.
"No pasaran!" Okay, the inverted exclamation mark is missing at the beginning of the sentence.
The Nirvana.
I approve.
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Hello,
I'm not sure I follow you, 02 70 is part of the authorized callers, so we assume that if you haven't added it there, this list is incremented by default.
But what about 07 43?
The range could indeed correspond to the concealment of malicious calls from abroad under these numbers, but how does the application recognize them? Does it incorporate a list of unwanted numbers? -
Hello brucine,
You are certainly right to express reservations. This is a "proposed" list by default. We need to check that it does not block authorized calls.
I could not verify the origin of these numbers, and my enthusiasm may be misplaced. Just as I do not know how the list is constituted.
If you try it and notice any unwanted blocks, let us know.
I wanted to share my "results" and hope that everyone's observations will provide less definitive insights or the opposite.
So I correct myself:
I validate for my part... provisionally.
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Since I am as curious as a cat, I have also installed it provisionally.
The documentation states that there are indeed 12 or 15 million blocked numbers integrated into the application, and we cannot see the list (which would be difficult).
Apart from the log of blocked numbers, it doesn't seem to ask for permission to add to a blacklist or whitelist, and indirectly, the possibility of freeing a number that may have been blocked by mistake or unblocking a number that isn’t, manual addition, reporting to the "community" with a certain reaction time?
We also don’t know what happens with the possible blocking of SMS that use a phone number but go through another application.
With these reservations, the big plus is obviously that there doesn't seem to be any other free application incorporating these lists; the question is about manual blocking (numbers that are not on it, individuals who call 10 times by mistaking the number...).
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Unfortunately, not everyone has the same default app, as you said, it depends a bit on the mobile manufacturer.
Hello,
Unless there's a specific feature on a particular phone, the "default app" on Android phones is the Google phone app.
If I'm not mistaken, it does block phone numbers, but only those that we've added over time, not the "new" ones, and it doesn't allow for generic blocking ranges (neither does Saracroche).
To get back to the point, to test Saracroche, I set it as the default for intercepting phone numbers, and this morning, it was Google that intercepted a telemarketer that was already blocked.
What gives?
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Hello,
Following up on my tests:
two new blocked numbers (yesterday and today), one in 04 24 with the note "suspicion of spam," the other simply marked "private number."
However, I noticed the possibility of adding blocked numbers to contacts and annotating them, which, in the absence of better options, suggests that we can "rectify" the list of allowed numbers by detecting potential erroneous blockages.
The "basic" application seems to me to be the option to manually block a number, which does not address the initial issue at all.
I haven't used this option, having no reason to unblock any troublemakers.
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Hello,
for a few days now, I've been testing Spamblocker, which is very powerful and highly customizable, but a bit daunting at first, although ultimately easy to use.
It seems quite decent to me, we'll see the effectiveness against spoofed numbers, but it mainly depends on the goodwill of the operators, reading.
And there you go, there you have it ....
But goodness, those line breaks are annoying!!-
Hello,
Your thing is a bit of a convoluted mess, if we don't import the ready-to-use list of callers, the Regex are cumbersome.
Of course, if I understand correctly, we only enter one, but for everyday use, it's simpler, like in CallFilter, to enter up to 12 from memory in the format +33424* etc.
The rest isn't very innovative, except for relying on unwanted number sites that might have them, always back to square one with spoofing (but then again, that's not very common), and apart from SMS blocking, which isn't very useful since it doesn't filter notifications, including those from special numbers that we could, in some way, set in Regex.
And what doesn't answer my question in <30>, I still don't have a call log when testing Saracroche; if this continues, I think I'll start by going back to CallFilter, which has one.Hello brucine,
I confirm to you, without taking a stance, that I indeed have the list of blocked calls in the log, with comments like "suspected spam," the possibility of blocking, unblocking or adding to the directory, and of course deleting.
I would prefer, like in Orange Phone or CallFilter, to have a separate list, but for me, the most important thing is the absence of ringing, which I'm still struggling to get used to as it's so relaxing.
Today, 4 blocked calls (2 in 09-49 and 2 in 01-62).
Hello,
Mystery...
It's also true that since the test I haven't had any blocked calls listed in the Google phone app except for one private number that may not be covered by the app.
So maybe no malicious calls for a few days, but CallFilter removes the uncertainty by logging all calls including those allowed or those that I have accepted without yet classifying them.A line or two of regular expression (regex) to copy and paste from the wiki is sufficient to block most spam.
You can also download the saved config directly provided in the tutorial link, which instantly configures for most spam.
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