How to connect 2 phones to the Freebox?
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Hello,
Having recently subscribed to Free Only, I wanted to connect my old phone (Logicom) which I used for the France Télécom line to Free to have a second cordless phone. I connected a double phone socket to Free to set up my 2 bases. The problem is that only one works. The "line socket" indicator on the other one lights up, but there's no dial tone. What should I do to make it work?
Looking forward to your responses; have a good day everyone.
Having recently subscribed to Free Only, I wanted to connect my old phone (Logicom) which I used for the France Télécom line to Free to have a second cordless phone. I connected a double phone socket to Free to set up my 2 bases. The problem is that only one works. The "line socket" indicator on the other one lights up, but there's no dial tone. What should I do to make it work?
Looking forward to your responses; have a good day everyone.
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I've got it; I've found it. In fact, you need to be careful with the power strip; that it doesn’t have 2 lines (L1-L2) because then only line 1 (L1) works. Even putting a filter on L2 doesn’t work. You need to make sure to get a power strip with 2 line 1s.
Thanks anyway to those who looked into it. @+
Thanks anyway to those who looked into it. @+
I'm not sure if it's the same proposal as > Fredibob85 < but I kept it simple and I'm going to try to explain it to you:
take a phone filter like a Freebox filter with screws to open it.
Your filter is composed of:
> male telephone socket: to be connected to the telephone socket coming out of the Freebox.
> female telephone socket: where you will plug in one of the 2 phones you want to connect
> and all that's left is the cable with the RJ11 connector at the end that you put into a phone (phone #1 connected)
Then you open the filter, there are normally 4 wires connected to positions 1 and 3 as shown in this diagram: http://goctruc.free.fr/BricABrac/Img/FiltreADSL01.jpg
Referring to this diagram, disconnect the yellow and black wires at the back and put a thin copper wire between the front and the back, that is to say, between the blue wire and previously the black wire. And the same thing for the red wire.
Then reassemble the filter and connect it to the Freebox. And in the female telephone socket, connect your second phone
And there you go, I hope I was clear?
Apiiman
take a phone filter like a Freebox filter with screws to open it.
Your filter is composed of:
> male telephone socket: to be connected to the telephone socket coming out of the Freebox.
> female telephone socket: where you will plug in one of the 2 phones you want to connect
> and all that's left is the cable with the RJ11 connector at the end that you put into a phone (phone #1 connected)
Then you open the filter, there are normally 4 wires connected to positions 1 and 3 as shown in this diagram: http://goctruc.free.fr/BricABrac/Img/FiltreADSL01.jpg
Referring to this diagram, disconnect the yellow and black wires at the back and put a thin copper wire between the front and the back, that is to say, between the blue wire and previously the black wire. And the same thing for the red wire.
Then reassemble the filter and connect it to the Freebox. And in the female telephone socket, connect your second phone
And there you go, I hope I was clear?
Apiiman
Hi Ham,
Actually, what I did is that I took the phone output from the freebox to make a kind of double socket that I rigged up to be able to connect 2 phones. For that, read the message I posted first about this subject.
But for the phone you have in another room, it's a bit like mine, but I invested in a twin-handset phone, and with that, you don't need a second socket.
Apiiman
Actually, what I did is that I took the phone output from the freebox to make a kind of double socket that I rigged up to be able to connect 2 phones. For that, read the message I posted first about this subject.
But for the phone you have in another room, it's a bit like mine, but I invested in a twin-handset phone, and with that, you don't need a second socket.
Apiiman
Hello,
I followed the instructions provided to have a second phone on the same line and it's not working
I have indeed disconnected the two yellow and black wires, and soldered two copper wires from top to bottom but unfortunately, it's still not working
I realize that it might not work anyway because to have two phones on the same line, it's not just a matter of connecting two phones.
I followed the instructions provided to have a second phone on the same line and it's not working
I have indeed disconnected the two yellow and black wires, and soldered two copper wires from top to bottom but unfortunately, it's still not working
I realize that it might not work anyway because to have two phones on the same line, it's not just a matter of connecting two phones.
You cannot connect two phones to the Freebox; you can only connect one, and it's the same for the telephone line because one FREE subscription = one Freebox line only!
Hello,
With Free, it's possible to have 2 phone lines at the same time using a Wi-Fi phone that connects via Freephonie.
This way, you can call 2 people on 2 different numbers at the same time and it works very well.
It's also possible to have 1 line receiving calls and another making calls.
However, 2 lines for receiving calls does not work ...
As for the number of phones, you just need to have a base connected to the box and then as many handsets as you want. It's important to know that all DECT standard networks can be merged provided you read the manual carefully.
Personally, I have 5 handsets across 3 networks and even intercom between handsets works .... And of course, 2 lines via Freephonie with a Wi-Fi phone. So I'm never hindered when calling, even when the "official" line is busy.
With Free, it's possible to have 2 phone lines at the same time using a Wi-Fi phone that connects via Freephonie.
This way, you can call 2 people on 2 different numbers at the same time and it works very well.
It's also possible to have 1 line receiving calls and another making calls.
However, 2 lines for receiving calls does not work ...
As for the number of phones, you just need to have a base connected to the box and then as many handsets as you want. It's important to know that all DECT standard networks can be merged provided you read the manual carefully.
Personally, I have 5 handsets across 3 networks and even intercom between handsets works .... And of course, 2 lines via Freephonie with a Wi-Fi phone. So I'm never hindered when calling, even when the "official" line is busy.
Good evening,
In my opinion, in the setup you described, you can only have one operational phone network, which is the one directly connected to the box.
The other "phone jacks" are merely "network sockets" that allow computers to communicate, but not phones.
A very simple solution is to merge your DECT cordless phone networks. This way, only one base is actually connected to the freebox, and the others, even if of different brands, connect to that one.
All the phones are on the same technology; however, you will need to find the user manuals to "register" the new handsets (from the other network) on the connected base.
Good luck!
In my opinion, in the setup you described, you can only have one operational phone network, which is the one directly connected to the box.
The other "phone jacks" are merely "network sockets" that allow computers to communicate, but not phones.
A very simple solution is to merge your DECT cordless phone networks. This way, only one base is actually connected to the freebox, and the others, even if of different brands, connect to that one.
All the phones are on the same technology; however, you will need to find the user manuals to "register" the new handsets (from the other network) on the connected base.
Good luck!
Well, it seems that I wasn't clear.
I will stay practical.
You cannot have 2 INDEPENDENT phones with the same number!
Next to the box, there is a socket managed by France Telecom that corresponds to your basic phone number (even if you pay your bills to Free). A filter is plugged into this socket. Under the filter is the "box" and, on the filter, a standard phone whose number is the basic one. On the "box," another standard phone is plugged in with a different number (like 09..., communicated by Free). So you can have two different calls because you have 2 different numbers and without needing to turn on the computer.
There, I cannot make it simpler.
Best regards, DD
I will stay practical.
You cannot have 2 INDEPENDENT phones with the same number!
Next to the box, there is a socket managed by France Telecom that corresponds to your basic phone number (even if you pay your bills to Free). A filter is plugged into this socket. Under the filter is the "box" and, on the filter, a standard phone whose number is the basic one. On the "box," another standard phone is plugged in with a different number (like 09..., communicated by Free). So you can have two different calls because you have 2 different numbers and without needing to turn on the computer.
There, I cannot make it simpler.
Best regards, DD
Hello dededetre,
I am reiterating your explanations which are clear, with the exception that my box (Livebox) is indeed connected under the ADSL filter at the wall and the box through the cable connected to the telephone handset,
I do not have a handset connected to the wall socket.
On the other hand, I have an embedded telephone circuit that serves several rooms and corresponds to the FRANCE TELECOM distribution before the Livebox.
My question is as follows:
Can I use this embedded circuit to connect a second telephone handset, thus linking it to the Livebox and
not having to modify the entire current installation?
This second handset would allow me to connect an alarm control panel that is nearby.
PS
If I connect a second handset, with or without an ADSL filter socket, to the embedded circuit, the Livebox goes into internet search, red diode, and on the pre-installed telephone, the following message appears: "searching for line"
Do you see an easily rectifiable handling error or was my idea absurd and unthoughtful? This tends to happen to me often, just so you know.
Thank you for your thoughts on this scenario.
I am reiterating your explanations which are clear, with the exception that my box (Livebox) is indeed connected under the ADSL filter at the wall and the box through the cable connected to the telephone handset,
I do not have a handset connected to the wall socket.
On the other hand, I have an embedded telephone circuit that serves several rooms and corresponds to the FRANCE TELECOM distribution before the Livebox.
My question is as follows:
Can I use this embedded circuit to connect a second telephone handset, thus linking it to the Livebox and
not having to modify the entire current installation?
This second handset would allow me to connect an alarm control panel that is nearby.
PS
If I connect a second handset, with or without an ADSL filter socket, to the embedded circuit, the Livebox goes into internet search, red diode, and on the pre-installed telephone, the following message appears: "searching for line"
Do you see an easily rectifiable handling error or was my idea absurd and unthoughtful? This tends to happen to me often, just so you know.
Thank you for your thoughts on this scenario.
I was clear but not directive enough: In the case of complete unbundling, the phone line must solely supply (unplug everything else) the box! and nothing else. However, the phone connected to the box can be wireless and have 1, 2, or 3 handsets. Check your ISP's website for compatible handsets (they are not the most expensive) and forget everything else about your installation.
Good evening, I have two phone sockets, one in the upstairs bedroom and one on the ground floor: the one downstairs has both internet and telephone, while the one upstairs in the bedroom only has internet but no dial tone: and the connections are identical.
If possible, could you let me know if you have experienced this issue and if you have resolved it?
Thank you in advance.
If possible, could you let me know if you have experienced this issue and if you have resolved it?
Thank you in advance.
Good evening
My problem isn't connecting two phones but rather it's about the wall sockets.
As I explained:
In the entrance on the ground floor, I have:
telephone + internet:
and when I connect upstairs
I only have internet but no (dial tone) on my phone
my provider is.
The phone connects at the back of the Freebox
Thank you
My problem isn't connecting two phones but rather it's about the wall sockets.
As I explained:
In the entrance on the ground floor, I have:
telephone + internet:
and when I connect upstairs
I only have internet but no (dial tone) on my phone
my provider is.
The phone connects at the back of the Freebox
Thank you
Hello,
So it’s the same phone that’s connected to the Freebox, but when the Freebox is plugged in downstairs = phone + internet but upstairs = only internet?
In that case, is it a recent apartment?
So it’s the same phone that’s connected to the Freebox, but when the Freebox is plugged in downstairs = phone + internet but upstairs = only internet?
In that case, is it a recent apartment?
Because in modern apartments (since 3-4 years ago) there is a "junction box" that allows for distributing telephone and internet; but only one socket is suitable for the Freebox.
In your case, I don't see it; this is logically an impossible failure.
Are there indeed DSL filters everywhere? Have you removed the capacitor that is inside one of the original sockets (a big black rectangle with 2 legs)?
You probably need to check all the connections at the junction box, where all the wires from all the telephone sockets meet.
When you say that the internet works on one socket where the phone does not, does it work correctly with the same speed as on the socket where everything works?
In your case, I don't see it; this is logically an impossible failure.
Are there indeed DSL filters everywhere? Have you removed the capacitor that is inside one of the original sockets (a big black rectangle with 2 legs)?
You probably need to check all the connections at the junction box, where all the wires from all the telephone sockets meet.
When you say that the internet works on one socket where the phone does not, does it work correctly with the same speed as on the socket where everything works?
Oops... I thought I understood, and now I don't know what to think!
I will try to recap based on my modest knowledge.
If I'm wrong, please correct me by specifying the number of the point in question...
1- Initially, there were the PTT, with a telephone section using amplitude modulation now referred to as PSTN, equipped with large ivory-colored plugs with wide brass strips, ensuring a rather faulty connection. But with PSTN, it works. PSTN carries a voice frequency (low frequency), and less than a generation ago, "someone" had the idea to superimpose a high frequency onto PSTN: ADSL was born... (well, the basics anyway!)
2- At the arrival point, therefore at your home, a simple filter separates the two. The filter prevents the PSTN receiver from "blocking" the ADSL, the same goes for the old capacitors which must therefore be removed... from all the wall sockets, including the bell relay sockets -
3- That’s why your telephone line from France Telecom (Orange) provides you with two communication means: PSTN and ADSL. To prevent PSTN, with or without wires, from interfering with the ADSL, it must be connected after a filter. In summary, if your PTT installation has several wall sockets, before connecting your box, remove all your capacitors (these capacitors were intended to limit the crackling caused by the brass strips of the PTT plugs) and put a filter on all the sockets. The filter includes a filtered PTT socket and an RJ11 socket below, small and made of translucent plastic but with gold-plated contacts, thus a thousand times more efficient than the old PTT ones. Note: this kind of plug is also used to carry PSTN data under good conditions. This does not help to differentiate the types of communication. :-( ....
4- My advice: At the entry point of the PTT line (FT or Orange at your choice), leave only two outputs. The first will go to a socket with a filter and a base for cordless phone with 1, 2, or 3 units. The second will go to a socket for the ADSL box.
5- The phone on the Box... and this is where it gets complicated. I hope you’re still following... hang on, your future depends on it! If I understood correctly, though I’m not sure, the "boxes" offer a phone line in ADSL... I think it’s in IP but needs to be confirmed (Internet Protocol = Oops too complicated to simplify, anyway, a kind of multiplexing... for those who know... but it can be understood without that! Well, I will try) So, the RJ11 socket located behind the Freebox can send and receive independently of the filtered PSTN socket (as, obviously, the phone number is not the same). For example: with a basic digital phone connected to my Freebox, I can call my main PSTN line under FT and vice versa. I can receive two communications simultaneously and send two simultaneously as they are not on the same system. (I don’t do it as that exceeds my capabilities)
6- And what do you do with the internet phone? ...... Yes, there’s that too... but that will be for another time because I’m overwhelmed right now. I want to be basic and clear for the complications; we'll see that later.
Epilogue: I’ve read and corrected myself three times!
I’m not satisfied with my post. So don’t hesitate to ask me for more or to criticize me accurately, thanks.
My knowledge is at your service upon a precise request.
Sincerely,
DD
I will try to recap based on my modest knowledge.
If I'm wrong, please correct me by specifying the number of the point in question...
1- Initially, there were the PTT, with a telephone section using amplitude modulation now referred to as PSTN, equipped with large ivory-colored plugs with wide brass strips, ensuring a rather faulty connection. But with PSTN, it works. PSTN carries a voice frequency (low frequency), and less than a generation ago, "someone" had the idea to superimpose a high frequency onto PSTN: ADSL was born... (well, the basics anyway!)
2- At the arrival point, therefore at your home, a simple filter separates the two. The filter prevents the PSTN receiver from "blocking" the ADSL, the same goes for the old capacitors which must therefore be removed... from all the wall sockets, including the bell relay sockets -
3- That’s why your telephone line from France Telecom (Orange) provides you with two communication means: PSTN and ADSL. To prevent PSTN, with or without wires, from interfering with the ADSL, it must be connected after a filter. In summary, if your PTT installation has several wall sockets, before connecting your box, remove all your capacitors (these capacitors were intended to limit the crackling caused by the brass strips of the PTT plugs) and put a filter on all the sockets. The filter includes a filtered PTT socket and an RJ11 socket below, small and made of translucent plastic but with gold-plated contacts, thus a thousand times more efficient than the old PTT ones. Note: this kind of plug is also used to carry PSTN data under good conditions. This does not help to differentiate the types of communication. :-( ....
4- My advice: At the entry point of the PTT line (FT or Orange at your choice), leave only two outputs. The first will go to a socket with a filter and a base for cordless phone with 1, 2, or 3 units. The second will go to a socket for the ADSL box.
5- The phone on the Box... and this is where it gets complicated. I hope you’re still following... hang on, your future depends on it! If I understood correctly, though I’m not sure, the "boxes" offer a phone line in ADSL... I think it’s in IP but needs to be confirmed (Internet Protocol = Oops too complicated to simplify, anyway, a kind of multiplexing... for those who know... but it can be understood without that! Well, I will try) So, the RJ11 socket located behind the Freebox can send and receive independently of the filtered PSTN socket (as, obviously, the phone number is not the same). For example: with a basic digital phone connected to my Freebox, I can call my main PSTN line under FT and vice versa. I can receive two communications simultaneously and send two simultaneously as they are not on the same system. (I don’t do it as that exceeds my capabilities)
6- And what do you do with the internet phone? ...... Yes, there’s that too... but that will be for another time because I’m overwhelmed right now. I want to be basic and clear for the complications; we'll see that later.
Epilogue: I’ve read and corrected myself three times!
I’m not satisfied with my post. So don’t hesitate to ask me for more or to criticize me accurately, thanks.
My knowledge is at your service upon a precise request.
Sincerely,
DD
Good evening,
I have a Freebox V5 and I would like to connect several phones to the Free line. I tested it with two phones and a power strip. Both phones have a line and we can call, but during a call, there is no ringing.
I think there is an issue with the electrical voltage supplied by the Freebox. How do those who have connected multiple phones do it?
Thank you for your clarifications.
I have a Freebox V5 and I would like to connect several phones to the Free line. I tested it with two phones and a power strip. Both phones have a line and we can call, but during a call, there is no ringing.
I think there is an issue with the electrical voltage supplied by the Freebox. How do those who have connected multiple phones do it?
Thank you for your clarifications.
Good evening everyone,
Like bmi34, I connected 2 handsets to the output of the Free, I have the dial tone but no ringing on the call, just a small click. I also wonder about the output voltage of the Free, how to overcome the problem?
P.S. 2 phones on a single line indeed have the same number and we do not use one or the other but not both at the same time.
Best regards
Like bmi34, I connected 2 handsets to the output of the Free, I have the dial tone but no ringing on the call, just a small click. I also wonder about the output voltage of the Free, how to overcome the problem?
P.S. 2 phones on a single line indeed have the same number and we do not use one or the other but not both at the same time.
Best regards
Hello,
It's often a power supply issue; it also ages and sometimes prematurely.
Measure the voltage under load of the power supply with a multimeter by inserting 2 pins, spaced 4 cm apart, into each wire of the power supply. If, during problems, it drops below 11V, then replace the power supply.
Available for sale on Free. €10 including shipping.
Optionally, you can test with an old car battery that is charged. It should still be able to deliver 12V at 1.5A without any problem. Be careful, polarity must be strictly respected.
Best regards,
DD
It's often a power supply issue; it also ages and sometimes prematurely.
Measure the voltage under load of the power supply with a multimeter by inserting 2 pins, spaced 4 cm apart, into each wire of the power supply. If, during problems, it drops below 11V, then replace the power supply.
Available for sale on Free. €10 including shipping.
Optionally, you can test with an old car battery that is charged. It should still be able to deliver 12V at 1.5A without any problem. Be careful, polarity must be strictly respected.
Best regards,
DD
Good evening,
For Dededetre,
I found an electronic assembly on the internet to boost the output of the FreeBox, too complicated for my issue.
In the end, I set up a micro switch that physically cuts the line at the entry of a phone when the receiver is hung up; so when the phone rings, there’s only one device connected and it rings. I pick up either handset and it works perfectly!!
For Toto1327,
The 2 numbers provided by Free in total unbundling are on the same line and cannot be separated.
The filter is only used on the FT line when we are in partial unbundling (2 FT operators + Free)
For Dededetre,
I found an electronic assembly on the internet to boost the output of the FreeBox, too complicated for my issue.
In the end, I set up a micro switch that physically cuts the line at the entry of a phone when the receiver is hung up; so when the phone rings, there’s only one device connected and it rings. I pick up either handset and it works perfectly!!
For Toto1327,
The 2 numbers provided by Free in total unbundling are on the same line and cannot be separated.
The filter is only used on the FT line when we are in partial unbundling (2 FT operators + Free)
Hello, in response to fredibob85, we connected the ADSL filter (Ivory) to the back of the Freebox on the (black) socket provided with the Freebox Server and the phone plug on it (2 phones connected to it - 1 wireless and an old model) another one in another room, so 3 phones, and all are working - if you need more details... best regards.
NICO49