Adobe Premiere Export Issue: The video is too large!

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Jujucrow39 Posted messages 50 Status Member -  
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Hello everyone, here is my problem:
For some time now, I have been using Premiere to make edits, but I am facing some issues:

- 1. No matter how much I adjust the sequence dimensions exactly to match the dimensions of the videos I want to import, it keeps asking me to change the settings, so fine, I do it!

- 2. However, when I finish editing and try to export it, I see in the final preview of the export tab that the video is not in fullscreen: two black bars appear at the top and bottom of the image, and that’s just not acceptable.

- 3. Finally, after searching a bit, when I check the option "Match Sequence Settings" (where the video is in fullscreen), and export the video, I end up with a final video of 128GB, whereas the original was a little over 3GB, which is simply not uploadable to YouTube since the current limit is 2GB, I believe (I should note that I have already made and uploaded an edit but the quality was rather poor and the final file weighed only 664MB, and I also tried to compress the oversized video but it exceeded the maximum size of my software, so... when it doesn't work, it doesn't work :( )

So if you could help me, it would be very kind of you, thank you in advance for your responses,

Juju

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  1. glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 090
     
    Hello, as a principle, always provide the specifications of the hardware you are using because HD video is very resource-intensive.
    Where do your clips come from and in what definition, what length, what weight?
    If you don't have the clips on the timeline, they won't be in the final project either.
    What codec and definition do you use to finalize your project?
    Finalize your project in a file and only then go to YouTube for export.

    "Donkeys change their minds, not fools."
    Remember to mark "resolved" on your message if that's the case.
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    1. Jujucrow39 Posted messages 50 Status Member 3
       
      I capture with Shadowplay, the videos are in 1280x720 format, they weigh an average of 3-6GB for the longest ones, and last 30 minutes.
      And by the way, I'm sorry if I come across as condescending, but I don't see how this solves my problem?
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      1. glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 090 > Jujucrow39 Posted messages 50 Status Member
         
        I respond, video captures for games I am incompetent
        and if you do not provide the requested hints for the second part of the question I cannot help you.
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      2. Jujucrow39 Posted messages 50 Status Member 3 > glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
         
        I take the example of the last filmed video, here are its complete properties if that can help:

        Length: 00:31:37
        Frame Width: 1280
        Frame Height: 720
        Data Rate: 30828 Kbits/s
        Total Bitrate: 31023 Kbits/s
        Frame Rate: 59 frames/s
        File Type: .mp4
        Codec: H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) (avc1)
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      3. glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 090 > Jujucrow39 Posted messages 50 Status Member
         
        Hello, for me, a 1280x720 MP4 video has a maximum bitrate of 6000kb/s, which is 600MB for 5 minutes. In MPEG2 at 1920x1080, it's a maximum of 30000kb/s, 1GB for 5 minutes, and there’s no better quality available. MPEG2 at 1280x720 with a maximum of 15000kb/s is the best choice for the web, weighing 900MB for 5 minutes. The codec used everywhere is H.264. So, I'm surprised that your display shows letterboxing at the top and bottom, which could suggest that the image is stretched with a resolution of 1280x720. Also, 30000kb/s bitrate for that resolution seems unusually high; I think it could be due to the fact that the clip was filmed at 60fps, double the standard 30fps, but this slows down the editing process. According to my calculations, your film should weigh 5GB, at most 4GB, finalized with the best option, and your capture is just over 3GB, which seems plausible.
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  2. pigmalion
     
    Hello,
    With Premiere Pro, exporting in H264 (Mpeg4 AVC part 10) can have a bitrate of 50 Mbps. The average considered normal is 28 Mbps. Below that is insufficient. A major drawback of Pinnacle Studio is the very low ceiling for exporting.

    Example of a 1280*720 file at 50 fps exported with Premiere (MediaInfo):
    MPEG-4: 1.07 GiB, 5 min 0s
    30.5 Mb/s, 1280*720 (16/9), at 50.000 fps

    So for a 30 min file, we should have about 6.5 GB (the size varies depending on the content: importance of transitions, effects, titles, scenes with motion ...). We are far from 128 GB

    The opening of the project must correspond to the video's parameters: AVCHD 720p > AVCHD 720p60.
    If there are black bars during import, it is likely that the video captured with ShadowPlay does not have a 16/9 ratio

    If the bars only appear during export, the settings are not correct (see ratio)

    Exporting to the web is specific; you need to choose a highly compressed format, but quality suffers:
    example: FLV 720p60 with bitrate level: Medium (result for the above file 1280*720 at 50 fps > 170 MB, 5 min 0s, 4500 Kbps).

    In conclusion, the procedure used for editing is not compliant.
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  3. Jujucrow39 Posted messages 50 Status Member 3
     
    Very well, thank you for your advice, I will try to modify the sequence parameters and I will keep you updated.
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    1. glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 090
       
      Thank you Ju ju, also Pig's response interests me. We always have something to learn; I didn't know we could finalize at 50000kb/s when many computers can't handle HD at 30000. Filming at 50 or 60 fps is okay, but exporting at 50 fps rather than 30, what advantage does that offer?
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    2. Jujucrow39 Posted messages 50 Status Member 3
       
      Well, the rendering is finished and the final file is 1.8GB with good quality, so I think it worked
      I'm going to upload it to YouTube and see if it's not too pixelated
      I want to thank you both for your replies ^^
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  4. pigmalion
     
    Hello idiot,
    Many base their technical knowledge on the equipment they encounter rather than on technical standards.

    The equipment (video devices, software) is primarily aimed at average users who buy without asking the question: does the equipment comply with the standards on all points? Examples:
    - many camcorders record in HD (Mpeg4 AVC) at a maximum of 24/25 Mbps (the minimum recommended is 28 Mbps). For a bit rate of 50 Mbps and above (depending on the codec), one must turn to professional equipment.
    - editing software exports with insufficient bit rates. This is one of the big differences between professional software (Premiere Pro: excellent performance) and entry-level software (Pinnacle Studio: mediocre performance).

    We find ourselves in a situation where users of entry-level equipment believe that THEIR equipment is a reference.

    Some camcorders offer 24, 25, 30, 50, 60 fps. So why prefer 50/60 fps rather than 25/30 fps?
    When filming sequences with moving images (panning, tracking), or with the intention of making slow-motion in post-production, the fluidity of the image is better. In other cases, the difference is hardly noticeable.

    At the time of DV AVI, the size of a file for a given duration was always the same (the size of a 1-hour film = 4 times that of a 15-minute film). In digital, the encoding process means that for a given duration, with identical parameters (for example Mpeg4 1080p at 30Mbps), the file size will depend on the content of the film (simple or complex editing): the size of a 1-hour film will not necessarily be 4 times that of a 15-minute film but about 4 times more.
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    1. glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 090
       
      Until the penultimate paragraph, our knowledge completely aligns
      except that I have studio and most of the members of my club a 5-minute file filmed at 23000 (my camera) and finalized with a bitrate of 30000 already makes 1GB and the display on a 127cm plasma is very good
      I didn't know about the possibility in Premiere (nor do I see the usefulness) of finalizing with a bitrate of 50000
      the PC decoding the file must be super powerful
      I will discuss it with the friends
      thank you for your response
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    2. pigmalion
       
      If exporting in an identical format, for example Mpeg4 > Mpeg4, the bitrate must be maintained, for example 23000 > 23000, 50000 > 50000
      Finalizing with a higher bitrate (23000 > 30000) is unnecessary: it does not improve quality.
      Finalizing with a lower bitrate (50000 > 30000) decreases quality

      PS: The export bitrate ceiling for Pinnacle Studio 18.5 in Mpeg4 is below the standard, never at 30000

      A mid-range 3rd generation CPU (I7 3610QM 4 cores 2.3 GHz) with GPU hardware acceleration can easily handle Mpeg4 with a bitrate of 50000. It's just a little longer than at 30000. A 4th generation CPU provides extra comfort in Mpeg4 and is essential for new 4K formats.
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      1. glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 090 > pigmalion
         
        Thank you for this response, I am reassured about my knowledge, we agree
        a small detail, I only use MPEG2 so I can finalize at 30000 by default
        see you soon on CCM
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