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I'm sorry, I can't assist with that.

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  1. davy
     
    Hello, so I've just disassembled it from its casing:

    So it has 4 slots

    The one at the top left: x1
    The one at the top right: L2
    The one at the bottom left: L1
    The one at the bottom right: X2

    Switch viewed from the back (to see the diagram)

    Efe 100W

    Knowing that I have the 3 red wires, I suppose that the one in the middle is the ground wire, so it will connect to L1, is that right?

    For the other 2, I will put the one on the left in X1 and the one on the right in X2?

    Otherwise, for the old one, if I remember correctly, 1 slot at the top and 2 slots at the bottom

    Regarding your diagram, I don't know anything at all.
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    1. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
       
      Hi,

      There is no ground on a switch, for your X and L, I don't know, each brand has its own wiring, normally you should have a manual with your switch!!

      As for the 3 wires of the same color, it must be an installation done by an amateur...
      If you have 3 wires, it means you have a two-way switch, do you have several switches that turn the same light on and off?
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    2. Anonymous user
       
      L1 - L2.....
      ....
      ...
      L means Line
      so the phase...

      so I conclude that X must be for the lamp return

      Sylvain is right: 3 wires = two-way switch

      1 wire for the phase, the other 2 are the travelers...

      so I would put the phase on L1, the travelers on the X.
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    3. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
       
      Yeah, well given the speed at which he responds, it might be fixed by Christmas (he might not need our lights)

      :))
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  2. Junior95
     
    Hello everyone,

    I'm reaching out because I also have a problem. I took apart a switch that was no longer working, but I forgot to make a diagram showing the wire locations. So now I'm left with 4 wires (2 red and 2 blue) and a new Debflex Emeraude switch.

    I know that one of the red wires comes from the circuit breaker (I took a multimeter, so I know which wire it is...), but I have no idea how to connect the remaining 3 wires. Can you help me?? It's a simple switch, but I don't understand why there are 4 wires (all 4 wires must be connected because I tried different combinations with them and tripped the circuit breaker), so there aren't any old wires that are not in use.
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  3. sieg
     
    So, the problem is that the old switch was thinner than the space where it fits in the wall.

    And so it loosened and the wires came off.

    Otherwise, am I at risk of having problems if I get the wiring location wrong?
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  4. sieg
     
    The problem is that the old switch was thinner than the space where it fits in the wall.

    So it got loose and the wires came off.

    Otherwise, am I at risk of having an issue if I get the wires' location wrong?
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  6. davy
     
    Well, the problem is that the old switch was thinner than the space where it fits in the wall.

    So it loosened up and the wires came off.

    Otherwise, am I at risk of problems if I place the wires in the wrong location?
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  7. davy
     
    Actually, the problem is that I just had a short circuit because it got detached, and now I would like to replace it with the new one to see if the power to my switches on the ground floor works again.
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  8. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
     
    Good evening,

    4 plots for a switch is strange, does your switch stay where you pressed it or does it return to its original position?
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  9. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
     
    I really like your link; it reminds me of a story.

    When I was little (around 10 years old), I went on vacation and there was the same electrical wire. The problem is that I jumped over it directly, and 35 years later, I still remember it.
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  10. lim02210 Posted messages 112 Status Member 22
     
    You just strip the ends of your 3 wires, one in the neutral, one for the ground, and the last one you put in the hole opposite the neutral. There should be a block with 4 holes. The most annoying part is that your wires are the same color, so don't forget to turn off the current and do some tests.
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  11. davy
     
    Thank you for responding.
    Yes, the wires of the same colors are not obvious, but I read that the middle cable is always the ground wire.

    When you tell me to test, do you mean to connect the wires, turn the power meter back on, and see if it lights up? And if not, restart the process?
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  12. lim02210 Posted messages 112 Status Member 22
     
    Yes, you only have that to do, with your wires of the same color, and yes the ground is fine in the middle. You should have left your old switch and looked in which direction the cables were going before removing it; at least you would have known where your ground was.
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  13. lim02210 Posted messages 112 Status Member 22
     
    Hey listen, I did a month of temp work in electricity, I'm not a professional, but your breaker will just trip, you can reset it later if you're wrong.
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  14. sieg
     
    The problem is that I just had a short circuit because it got detached, and now I would like to reconnect the new one to see if the current from my switches on the ground floor works again.
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  15. davy
     
    Yes, the switches on the ground floor are no longer working due to a short circuit.

    Actually, I have 3 red wires, and I bought a double pole switch which has 4 slots.

    I have the impression that I made a mistake.

    Otherwise, I haven't tested reconnecting yet precisely because there are 3 wires for 4 slots.

    Otherwise, I plan to test it tomorrow because I don't have any light except for a flashlight, but it's not great for seeing clearly.

    Also, the notch in the wall is too wide compared to the switch; the clips don't reach both edges.

    P.S.: I put tape on the ends of the wires that are sticking out.
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    1. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
       

      Otherwise, the notch in the wall is too wide compared to the switch, the clamps cannot reach both edges.

      This is not the most important issue at the moment

      Here is a bipolar switch, does it look like this?
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    2. davy
       
      Sorry for the delay, no it doesn't look like that

      more in this style


      http://www.cotubex.be/electronics/default.aspx?f2=5&art=21334&level=3
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    3. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
       
      Je suis ici pour vous aider. Quelle est votre question ?
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    4. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
       
      Does your interest look like this?
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    5. rolan
       
      Hi, so I just took it out of its casing:

      So it has 4 slots


      The one at the top left: x1
      The one at the top right L2
      The one at the bottom left L1
      The one at the bottom right X2

      Efe 100W


      Knowing that I have the 3 red wires, I assume that the one in the middle is the ground wire, so it will be connected to L1, is that correct?

      For the other two, I will connect the left one to X1 and the right one to X2?


      Otherwise, for the old one, if I remember correctly, 1 slot at the top and 2 slots at the bottom

      Regarding your diagram, I have no idea at all.
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  16. Anonymous user
     
    XD - -> if he does this without saying anything, we won't be able to advise him on this or that... and if he can't do it, he risks losing it

    http://www.va-et-vient.com/
    http://www.va-et-vient.com/schema_electrique.htm
    https://www.systemed.fr/electricite/schema-branchement-pour-va-et-vient,8102.html

    With this, he can't say he wasn't informed ^^

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  17. davy
     
    Hi, if I could find some free time I could respond faster.
    Then in the evening I won't do it as there is no more light and I have nothing to light it properly.

    As for the house, it was bought already built so I didn't have a choice.

    Regarding the wiring, is the phase the one in the middle?
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    1. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
       
      Yes, and the other two are shuttles (usually orange wire). Look at the links; isn't there any tape of a different color on your wires?
      Do you not remember their positions?
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    2. davy
       
      Just not tape, then since they came off, I didn't really pay attention. I'll try like that and I'll come back to say how it goes, thanks.
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    3. Anonymous user
       
      You don't have any testing devices?

      Here, you need a screwdriver tester (which detects the phase)
      or a VAT testing device (voltage absence tester) which should detect the phase

      That's the simplest, as it's the most effective...

      Do this with the power off!

      - Strip each wire and put a connector on each wire
      - Once that's done, restore power
      - Use your screwdriver tester or your device that checks for phase presence

      If a light blinks, you have found the phase...

      For the jumpers, there is no proper orientation

      A simple screwdriver tester costs less than €4

      It's up to you

      @+
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    4. sylvain.ph Posted messages 2859 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   221
       
      Well, given his lack of commitment, I'm giving up.
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    5. Anonymous user
       
      Yes Sylvain, we help him, and he responds more

      solution: hire a pro!

      @+

      oh damn, I forgot something... how are you Sylvain?

      ^^ @+
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  18. Anonymous user
     
    Hello,

    ha ha ha, this carnage!!!


    first of all I couldn't find a forum for my request, so excuse me if this is not the right one

    DIY forum!!!

    Actually, I bought a switch because the other one was broken.

    The problem is that I got one with 4 terminals and I only have 3 wires.
    Then my 3 wires are the same color (red), I don't really know which wire goes into which terminal.

    before taking it apart, you should have marked them!

    if you have 3 wires, it's not necessarily a two-way switch!

    it could be a switch that powers 2 light points or the phase that goes elsewhere!

    1) Will having 4 terminals on the new switch be incompatible?

    the ground is where the switch is fixed!
    if you're talking about the connection terminals, that's another matter!

    2) How do I know which wire to connect to which terminal knowing that I don't have the necessary tools?

    rule number 1 before every disassembly for changing devices (this applies to pretty much everything!): mark before taking apart!

    the one at the top left: x1
    the one at the top right: L2
    the one at the bottom left: L1
    the one at the bottom right: X2

    from what you explain, you bought a double switch, not a two-way switch!

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  19. lim02210 Posted messages 112 Status Member 22
     
    Because there you don't have any switches that work anymore? Go ahead, give it a try, try to reconnect the new one since you've turned off the power, no worries, you'll see if it works again. Or if you can't, put some connectors on your 3 exposed wires for now.
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