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Hello Riko,
first of all, I'm sorry for you,
my mother was scammed by those guys too, but only for €300.
The car was supposed to arrive on Monday at 7:30 PM with the same story as yours.
I found the real ad (because you need to know that they use a legitimate ad to carry out their scam) on the eBay site.
We went to file a fraud report at the police station this afternoon, and they said that the money wouldn't be coming back and that there is little hope of catching these scammers. I'm sorry for this really bad news.
I would like to find other people who were scammed by these individuals and see if we can do something together. Stay strong.
first of all, I'm sorry for you,
my mother was scammed by those guys too, but only for €300.
The car was supposed to arrive on Monday at 7:30 PM with the same story as yours.
I found the real ad (because you need to know that they use a legitimate ad to carry out their scam) on the eBay site.
We went to file a fraud report at the police station this afternoon, and they said that the money wouldn't be coming back and that there is little hope of catching these scammers. I'm sorry for this really bad news.
I would like to find other people who were scammed by these individuals and see if we can do something together. Stay strong.
Here are many more testimonies regarding this scam (which is just a variant):
http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 6273859 attention scam about car donations
http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 3953899 car without a license with dog license loan
http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 5686293 scam gives a car for disabled
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IMPORTANT: message to victims
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Many contributions in this discussion lack details: to be helpful to others and hinder the activities of these small “businesses,” it would be better to note on this forum:
- the emails received (taking care to remove your personal information)
not forgetting:
- the email address or addresses used.
- the address of the site where you found this ad (with, if possible, the references of the ad)
Note: some of these crooks post on forums pretending to be police officers (or others) and will offer their help for a fee. These messages are systematically deleted, but some may escape us, so be careful.
An investigation is underway through _Enquêteur_ and in this context, no payment will ever be requested from you.
Beware of any other participants who offer miraculous help for a fee.
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Thank you for your cooperation :)
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http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 6273859 attention scam about car donations
http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 3953899 car without a license with dog license loan
http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 5686293 scam gives a car for disabled
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IMPORTANT: message to victims
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Many contributions in this discussion lack details: to be helpful to others and hinder the activities of these small “businesses,” it would be better to note on this forum:
- the emails received (taking care to remove your personal information)
not forgetting:
- the email address or addresses used.
- the address of the site where you found this ad (with, if possible, the references of the ad)
Note: some of these crooks post on forums pretending to be police officers (or others) and will offer their help for a fee. These messages are systematically deleted, but some may escape us, so be careful.
An investigation is underway through _Enquêteur_ and in this context, no payment will ever be requested from you.
Beware of any other participants who offer miraculous help for a fee.
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Thank you for your cooperation :)
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Bourreaucat on duty
It is true that we need to send as much information as possible regarding these matters
so his email address is:
manojean01@netcourrier.fr
chalkisse20@hotmail.fr
the mandate to be sent must be via western union and of course to be paid before receiving the goods.
the scammer went to see my mother's ad on kijiji and pifauto and used an ad from ebay to set up his scam
the money must be sent to Benin to a certain Martin Hounsavi
there you go, I think I haven't forgotten anything
I just had the scammer on msn just now and he claims that it is not a scam and my mother will receive her car
despite all the evidence I told him
so good luck to everyone and there is no shame in being deceived so filing a complaint is the best thing to do to stop all this.
so his email address is:
manojean01@netcourrier.fr
chalkisse20@hotmail.fr
the mandate to be sent must be via western union and of course to be paid before receiving the goods.
the scammer went to see my mother's ad on kijiji and pifauto and used an ad from ebay to set up his scam
the money must be sent to Benin to a certain Martin Hounsavi
there you go, I think I haven't forgotten anything
I just had the scammer on msn just now and he claims that it is not a scam and my mother will receive her car
despite all the evidence I told him
so good luck to everyone and there is no shame in being deceived so filing a complaint is the best thing to do to stop all this.
Hello,
It reassures me to see that I'm not the only one who almost got scammed!!! I've already responded to more than 5 ads and since I nearly fell for the first one, I've become very suspicious for the following ones, and it hasn't gone far because as soon as I mentioned that I refused Western Union and would pay directly, there was no longer any contact...
Right now, I'm looking at another ad where they confirm that the payment will be made upon delivery with all the papers and that the transport fees have already been paid. What do you think?
When I gave my agreement, here's what I replied:
Good evening,
Thank you for your response. I am indeed interested.
After reading your email, if I understand correctly, I will pay the transport provider directly, who will also give me all the sale papers upon delivery. Moreover, you have also confirmed that I will have no additional fees. If you confirm by return email that this sale will take place under these conditions, I agree.
Please understand that I can be very demanding about the sale conditions because I have already responded to many ads that turned out to be scams.
I am on board for this sale if the transaction takes place under the previously described conditions.
So the transporter should contact me again... I am curious to see, in any case, if I don't hear anything by 5 PM tomorrow, I will know what to think. I am not sending anything at all; I will wait and see.
In the meantime, I have encountered someone in charge of foreign railroads, another who just lost her husband and was giving away her car for good care, another who was selling his vehicle to cover medical expenses, another who was deaf and mute; in short, a plethora of diverse and varied scenarios. I am disgusted by what human nature is capable of for a few euros!!!
Happy reading, I'll keep you posted.
It reassures me to see that I'm not the only one who almost got scammed!!! I've already responded to more than 5 ads and since I nearly fell for the first one, I've become very suspicious for the following ones, and it hasn't gone far because as soon as I mentioned that I refused Western Union and would pay directly, there was no longer any contact...
Right now, I'm looking at another ad where they confirm that the payment will be made upon delivery with all the papers and that the transport fees have already been paid. What do you think?
When I gave my agreement, here's what I replied:
Good evening,
Thank you for your response. I am indeed interested.
After reading your email, if I understand correctly, I will pay the transport provider directly, who will also give me all the sale papers upon delivery. Moreover, you have also confirmed that I will have no additional fees. If you confirm by return email that this sale will take place under these conditions, I agree.
Please understand that I can be very demanding about the sale conditions because I have already responded to many ads that turned out to be scams.
I am on board for this sale if the transaction takes place under the previously described conditions.
So the transporter should contact me again... I am curious to see, in any case, if I don't hear anything by 5 PM tomorrow, I will know what to think. I am not sending anything at all; I will wait and see.
In the meantime, I have encountered someone in charge of foreign railroads, another who just lost her husband and was giving away her car for good care, another who was selling his vehicle to cover medical expenses, another who was deaf and mute; in short, a plethora of diverse and varied scenarios. I am disgusted by what human nature is capable of for a few euros!!!
Happy reading, I'll keep you posted.
Hi everyone, as you may have noticed, I was a victim of these scammers in August and I see that it's still going on for others. One last thing for those who, like me, dared to file a complaint: they, the scammers, sent me an email pretending to be a judge from Togo who wanted to help me. BE CAREFUL, THIS IS NOT A JUDGE, it’s simply another scam from them. This time, I didn't fall for it. This way, they know who filed a complaint. Good luck to everyone and be careful; never send money until you see what you want to buy! As they say, I believe what I see!
Hello, I just saw your site, it's really nice. I can also tell you that they are now targeting motocross in the name of PERRETTA ANNA MARIA, ping pong, tifen2009@live.fr, 06 45 12 05 36;
URGENT CASH MANDATE, they also borrow real names that exist like Mr. TIFFON LAURENT.
Via address; l.particulier@yahoo.fr, also; stevenjouberton@yahoo.fr,
they use La Centrale.
Address for cash mandate payment, Name: Averty, First name: Sidney, Address: 4 rue des capucins, Postal code: 62170, for amounts of 1500,800,,, EURO, I can provide more and more, my investigation goes far, very far + several weeks of findings
ladies and gentlemen, this needs to be talked about, we need to alert the gendarmerie, there are gendarmerie officers waiting for all our additional information
see you, Phill, keep me informed, thanks.
URGENT CASH MANDATE, they also borrow real names that exist like Mr. TIFFON LAURENT.
Via address; l.particulier@yahoo.fr, also; stevenjouberton@yahoo.fr,
they use La Centrale.
Address for cash mandate payment, Name: Averty, First name: Sidney, Address: 4 rue des capucins, Postal code: 62170, for amounts of 1500,800,,, EURO, I can provide more and more, my investigation goes far, very far + several weeks of findings
ladies and gentlemen, this needs to be talked about, we need to alert the gendarmerie, there are gendarmerie officers waiting for all our additional information
see you, Phill, keep me informed, thanks.
Hello,
I am looking for an apartment in the Brussels region of Belgium... When I come across what seems to be a good deal... Anyway, I sensed a scam and decided to Google the phone number... Fortunately, this same number is already known... it may have saved me. So to thank the internet users who share their bad experiences, I decided to copy the 3 emails I received and sent... IF YOU TOO have received responses like this, BE CAREFUL.
Here are the emails:
EMAIL 1: The so-called owner;
Good evening
My very nice apartment is still available, well-maintained, free immediately and located in Brussels, 5 minutes walking distance from Brussels South Station, in a very calm and safe street in the municipality of Anderlecht close to all amenities (restaurants, clinics, metro, schools, shops, etc...). This 60 m2 accommodation includes 3 bedrooms with living room. The kitchen is fully equipped, including electric plates, oven, refrigerator, all the dishes, storage, terrace, private garage, parking, located on the first floor, a garden of 55 M2, Equipment: washing machine, vacuum cleaner, iron and ironing board, high-speed internet, TV decoder....)
This little gem of an apartment is in excellent condition.
For work reasons, I am out of the country for an indefinite period, so I will have my notary show you my apartment.
I am renting my apartment at this price so that it does not remain empty and poorly maintained. I rent it for 400 euros including utilities (water, electricity, gas, waste) in order to ensure its occupation during my absence, so if you are really interested, please leave me your information for the appointment.
- The following information is required for the visit:
NAME: ......................
FIRST NAME: ....................
MONTHLY INCOME:............
LEASE DURATION: ..........
Number of occupants:...........
Visit day:............
Phone(s):................
Are you working? or Student?:............
Do you have a payslip?:...........
- When signing the contract, also to be provided to the notary:
...... double-sided copies of the identity card or driver's license
...... the last 3 pay slips
....... A receipt of the last rent
NB: For the signing of the lease contract, the payment is one month of rent (400€)
I would like you to leave me the above information to agree on an appointment,
I will be awaiting your reply to agree on the visit appointment.
Here are the photos of my apartment
My response:
Hello,
Following your request, here is the information you asked for.
Awaiting a date for the appointment. Please accept my best regards.
Yours sincerely.
G B
@gmail.com
0472/ 65.....
NAME:
FIRST NAME:
MONTHLY INCOME:
LEASE DURATION
Number of occupants: 1 (one person)
Visit day: From 4 PM. Whatever suits your notary best.
Phone(s): 0472/ ......
Are you working? or Student?: I have no problem proving my income.
Do you have a payslip?: Tax document, bank statement. I have proof of my income.
OF COURSE I ANSWERED ALL HIS QUESTIONS
Here is the response that raised my suspicion:
Good evening, after reading your email, I am ready to rent you my apartment
However, I inform you that for the visit you can contact my notary who will be able to come for an appointment to show you the visit, sign the contract, and the lease. He is currently in France on business, but if you agree on an appointment, he will come to show you the visit.
Here are his contact details
Notary Office
Master Groussier MALIDONNE
RUE FORCIOLI CONTI
20000 AJACCIO
Tel: 06.75.71.67.65 Leave a SMS if BUSY
maitregmalidonne@diplomats.com
Website: www.maitregmalidonne.tk
Please contact him to arrange an appointment for the visit and the signing.
WHAT RAISED MY SUSPICION IS THAT THIS SUPPOSED NOTARY IS ON BUSINESS IN FRANCE... WELL, ANY BUSINESSMAN TRAVELING ABROAD DOES NOT CHANGE HIS PHONE NUMBER........ IF HE WAS REALLY BELGIAN, HIS PHONE NUMBER WOULD BE BELGIAN AND NOT FRENCH!!
I hope to have helped sincerely, in any case thank you because your site helped me a lot to avoid being scammed... I sincerely hope that we will catch these scammers who I think deserve a prison sentence of at least 15 years.
Yours sincerely
g.b
Here is the email of the so-called owner: from Paul Bastier <bastier.paul@yahoo.fr>
I am looking for an apartment in the Brussels region of Belgium... When I come across what seems to be a good deal... Anyway, I sensed a scam and decided to Google the phone number... Fortunately, this same number is already known... it may have saved me. So to thank the internet users who share their bad experiences, I decided to copy the 3 emails I received and sent... IF YOU TOO have received responses like this, BE CAREFUL.
Here are the emails:
EMAIL 1: The so-called owner;
Good evening
My very nice apartment is still available, well-maintained, free immediately and located in Brussels, 5 minutes walking distance from Brussels South Station, in a very calm and safe street in the municipality of Anderlecht close to all amenities (restaurants, clinics, metro, schools, shops, etc...). This 60 m2 accommodation includes 3 bedrooms with living room. The kitchen is fully equipped, including electric plates, oven, refrigerator, all the dishes, storage, terrace, private garage, parking, located on the first floor, a garden of 55 M2, Equipment: washing machine, vacuum cleaner, iron and ironing board, high-speed internet, TV decoder....)
This little gem of an apartment is in excellent condition.
For work reasons, I am out of the country for an indefinite period, so I will have my notary show you my apartment.
I am renting my apartment at this price so that it does not remain empty and poorly maintained. I rent it for 400 euros including utilities (water, electricity, gas, waste) in order to ensure its occupation during my absence, so if you are really interested, please leave me your information for the appointment.
- The following information is required for the visit:
NAME: ......................
FIRST NAME: ....................
MONTHLY INCOME:............
LEASE DURATION: ..........
Number of occupants:...........
Visit day:............
Phone(s):................
Are you working? or Student?:............
Do you have a payslip?:...........
- When signing the contract, also to be provided to the notary:
...... double-sided copies of the identity card or driver's license
...... the last 3 pay slips
....... A receipt of the last rent
NB: For the signing of the lease contract, the payment is one month of rent (400€)
I would like you to leave me the above information to agree on an appointment,
I will be awaiting your reply to agree on the visit appointment.
Here are the photos of my apartment
My response:
Hello,
Following your request, here is the information you asked for.
Awaiting a date for the appointment. Please accept my best regards.
Yours sincerely.
G B
@gmail.com
0472/ 65.....
NAME:
FIRST NAME:
MONTHLY INCOME:
LEASE DURATION
Number of occupants: 1 (one person)
Visit day: From 4 PM. Whatever suits your notary best.
Phone(s): 0472/ ......
Are you working? or Student?: I have no problem proving my income.
Do you have a payslip?: Tax document, bank statement. I have proof of my income.
OF COURSE I ANSWERED ALL HIS QUESTIONS
Here is the response that raised my suspicion:
Good evening, after reading your email, I am ready to rent you my apartment
However, I inform you that for the visit you can contact my notary who will be able to come for an appointment to show you the visit, sign the contract, and the lease. He is currently in France on business, but if you agree on an appointment, he will come to show you the visit.
Here are his contact details
Notary Office
Master Groussier MALIDONNE
RUE FORCIOLI CONTI
20000 AJACCIO
Tel: 06.75.71.67.65 Leave a SMS if BUSY
maitregmalidonne@diplomats.com
Website: www.maitregmalidonne.tk
Please contact him to arrange an appointment for the visit and the signing.
WHAT RAISED MY SUSPICION IS THAT THIS SUPPOSED NOTARY IS ON BUSINESS IN FRANCE... WELL, ANY BUSINESSMAN TRAVELING ABROAD DOES NOT CHANGE HIS PHONE NUMBER........ IF HE WAS REALLY BELGIAN, HIS PHONE NUMBER WOULD BE BELGIAN AND NOT FRENCH!!
I hope to have helped sincerely, in any case thank you because your site helped me a lot to avoid being scammed... I sincerely hope that we will catch these scammers who I think deserve a prison sentence of at least 15 years.
Yours sincerely
g.b
Here is the email of the so-called owner: from Paul Bastier <bastier.paul@yahoo.fr>
I received practically the same ad but in Namur, this person never wanted to give me their full contact details, let alone the address of the apartment here.
I stumbled upon your comments while searching for the notary's site on Google, and oh surprise! I did the same thing with the phone number of the so-called apartment owner and ended up on the comment of another person who had the same ad on the site escroc.net. Here is the relevant page: http://www.escrocs.net/arnaques/message-descroquerie-arnaque-de-livraison-de-vehicule-benin.htm
So, I reported this scam on the other site as well, but I almost forgot the most important part: their names and numbers, there will be three of them sharing the 15€ I sent, it's truly pathetic!
- fred.akouet@ahoo.fr 0022966305554
- The notary
Notarial Office
Master Groussier MALIDONNE
Phone: 06 75 71 67 65
Website: www.maitregmalidonne.tk
Email: maitregmalidonne@diplomats.com (who at the time of writing is asking me for 400€ before visiting the apartment via Western Union on top of that)
- the accountant of the delivery company that had to be paid to get the keys =>NAME: SIDI
FIRST NAME: MICHEL
COUNTRY: BENIN
CITY: COTONOU
POSTAL CODE: 00229
ADDRESS: 02 RUE DES SOCIÉTÉ DE TRANSPORT BELGE
and the address of the transport site:
Colis.expresse.rapide
Address: 02 rue des société de transport 1020 Cotonou
Email: livraison.colis.rapide@gmail.com
Phone: 002 299 967 39 66
Well, thanks everyone, let's see what the police does! lol
Random visitor
I stumbled upon your comments while searching for the notary's site on Google, and oh surprise! I did the same thing with the phone number of the so-called apartment owner and ended up on the comment of another person who had the same ad on the site escroc.net. Here is the relevant page: http://www.escrocs.net/arnaques/message-descroquerie-arnaque-de-livraison-de-vehicule-benin.htm
So, I reported this scam on the other site as well, but I almost forgot the most important part: their names and numbers, there will be three of them sharing the 15€ I sent, it's truly pathetic!
- fred.akouet@ahoo.fr 0022966305554
- The notary
Notarial Office
Master Groussier MALIDONNE
Phone: 06 75 71 67 65
Website: www.maitregmalidonne.tk
Email: maitregmalidonne@diplomats.com (who at the time of writing is asking me for 400€ before visiting the apartment via Western Union on top of that)
- the accountant of the delivery company that had to be paid to get the keys =>NAME: SIDI
FIRST NAME: MICHEL
COUNTRY: BENIN
CITY: COTONOU
POSTAL CODE: 00229
ADDRESS: 02 RUE DES SOCIÉTÉ DE TRANSPORT BELGE
and the address of the transport site:
Colis.expresse.rapide
Address: 02 rue des société de transport 1020 Cotonou
Email: livraison.colis.rapide@gmail.com
Phone: 002 299 967 39 66
Well, thanks everyone, let's see what the police does! lol
Random visitor
Hello,
I have just fallen victim to the same scam for an apartment in Arras in the 62.
Same ad, same notary, same information...
The individual who posted the ad on "le bon coin" is Ms. Marceline Dubois, who after two emails gave me the contact details of Master Groussier Malidonne.
They are really crooks...
I have just fallen victim to the same scam for an apartment in Arras in the 62.
Same ad, same notary, same information...
The individual who posted the ad on "le bon coin" is Ms. Marceline Dubois, who after two emails gave me the contact details of Master Groussier Malidonne.
They are really crooks...
Hello, I didn't fall for the trap because I carefully looked at your site to see who I was dealing with. I am also in search of a microcar, and what a surprise it was to see such nice donors offering a vehicle straight from the factory for the modest sum of 0 euros. Of course, the transaction is not entirely free since you will have to pay the delivery fees to a carrier that you didn’t ask for. I requested to pick up the vehicle myself, but no, it's already paid for. I'm giving you a few names; I hope this helps you going forward and that we can put an end to the scams of these unscrupulous people. Good luck and make good use of it.
renuart.christelle@yahoo.fr
hélène.gourron@yahoo.fr
victor.dubois34@yahoo.fr
maitrelaurent49@yahoo.fr
renuart.christelle@yahoo.fr
hélène.gourron@yahoo.fr
victor.dubois34@yahoo.fr
maitrelaurent49@yahoo.fr
Hello, I just received a response regarding the purchase of a T-Max on Le Bon Coin that seemed really cheap. Almost a giveaway, so wanting to make a good deal, I sent a request for confirmation on the price, mileage, and year. I receive the following response: "" Good evening,
I want to inform you that I am currently relocating for work with my little family. The reason I wanted to DONATE this T-Max is simply due to its lack of use and because of my daughter's death, as it belonged to her. My concern is not to leave the T-Max in the garage, as it will not be in good working condition anymore. It is in this perspective that I wanted to offer it to anyone determined who does not have the possibility of ownership.
If you are still interested, you will only need to cover the shipping costs of the company that will deliver it directly to your home within 24 hours. For more details and information, please feel free to contact me.
Here are some characteristics of the T-Max along with a few photos:
YAMAHA 500 T-MAX from 2008 Black Max Edition (matte black), second generation, with two discs in the front. It has ABS, two new tires, no costs to be expected, the three keys, it has 3850 miles and a current maintenance book, and it is a very good original scooter. ""
Thank you
............ Mrs. Renuart Christelle...............
Out of curiosity and with a little knowledge of scams, I searched Google for this poor lady who lost her daughter and wants to donate this nice ride, and there I found this forum that is really very useful and confirms that Christelle Renuart's identity has been usurped, SO BE CAREFUL OF SCAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to inform you that I am currently relocating for work with my little family. The reason I wanted to DONATE this T-Max is simply due to its lack of use and because of my daughter's death, as it belonged to her. My concern is not to leave the T-Max in the garage, as it will not be in good working condition anymore. It is in this perspective that I wanted to offer it to anyone determined who does not have the possibility of ownership.
If you are still interested, you will only need to cover the shipping costs of the company that will deliver it directly to your home within 24 hours. For more details and information, please feel free to contact me.
Here are some characteristics of the T-Max along with a few photos:
YAMAHA 500 T-MAX from 2008 Black Max Edition (matte black), second generation, with two discs in the front. It has ABS, two new tires, no costs to be expected, the three keys, it has 3850 miles and a current maintenance book, and it is a very good original scooter. ""
Thank you
............ Mrs. Renuart Christelle...............
Out of curiosity and with a little knowledge of scams, I searched Google for this poor lady who lost her daughter and wants to donate this nice ride, and there I found this forum that is really very useful and confirms that Christelle Renuart's identity has been usurped, SO BE CAREFUL OF SCAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So all I can tell you is that Perretta Annamaria is following the conversations on the forum !!
Attention everyone ...
Attention everyone ...
Hello
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TESTIMONIALS, THEY HAVE BEEN OF CONSIDERABLE HELP BECAUSE I WAS JUST TWO FINGERS AWAY FROM GETTING SCAMMED AND
A THOUSAND TIMES THANK YOU.
KNOW THAT HE HAS MULTIPLE IDENTITIES BUT THE SAME WAYS TO SCAM, HE HAS A MARTINIQUAIS ACCENT.
HERE BELOW ARE THE EMAILS I RECEIVED:
1) I received your message and thank you for your interest in the sale of my MINI EXCAVATOR which I am selling for €2100 because I am currently in France and I need to travel for work, which is why the sale is urgent for me, and at this price, if you are interested, please let me know.
2) Hello
First of all, the equipment belongs to me, and I bought it with my own labor, and I have all the original papers which will be given to you upon delivery, and you will go through the verification before making your final decision on the purchase because given the price, it is because I have my trip ahead of me and I must sell it as soon as possible to settle some issues, otherwise I could never sell it like this.
On the other hand, for professional reasons, I must take my flight to Martinique SOON, so I have entrusted it to my transporter with all the papers in order for a secure home delivery.
So if you are interested in purchasing THE MINI EXCAVATOR, please provide me with the following information:
Your NAME................................
Your FIRST NAME...........................
DELIVERY ADDRESS........................
MOBILE PHONE NUMBER....................
LANDLINE NUMBER.............................
DAY THAT SUITS YOU FOR DELIVERY.........
So once this information is provided, I will organize with him so that he delivers THE MINI EXCAVATOR
I will put you in contact with the transporter so that you can try it, go through the verification of the papers, and if everything is ok for you, then you take it, but if not, he will take the MINI EXCAVATOR back
and you don't have to pay him any transportation fees since he is already paid for that because if it were possible for you to go directly to the transporter, I would have already given you his contact information, but it is not possible because he no longer allows clients to come to his shop because he was robbed, and now he has moved from where he was, and to make things easier for you, which is why I made the delivery free
€2100 including tax in cash
3) I RECEIVED AN EMAIL TODAY CONFIRMING FROM Mr. CLEMENT LEDROI YOUR HOME ADDRESS FOR THE DELIVERY OF YOUR MINI EXCAVATOR
Which will be delivered to you with:
- The registration certificate struck out and signed (by the seller)
- The 3 parts of the transfer certificate with the sections concerning the seller filled out and signed.
- The non-pledge certificate corresponding
- The spare keys as well as the card (given by the dealer) allowing to make other copies in case of
loss of keys.
- The updated maintenance booklet
- All invoices in support.
- 1 certificate of a new delivery insurance dated one (1) week
- 1 delivery proxy certificate granted and signed by the town hall and the seller
- 1 notarized copy of my identity document (the one of me, the delivery person in charge of this delivery)
- 1 notarized copy of the owner's identity document to secure the transaction.
The delivery will be effective today at 11:00 based on your following details: -
INFOLINE: 06-40-35-15-03
PAYMENT PROCEDURE BY POST
Initially, it was agreed to make the payment in cash, which would be transformed into a POSTAL CHECK also called MANDATE between the seller and you, but to avoid any inconvenience (robberies or road accidents) that could possibly occur and considering the recent assault I was a victim of amounting to €3200 following a cash payment, this method of payment does not present any valid proof of payment according to the law and is not secure
that is why the payment will be made by a POSTAL CHECK WESTERN UNION also called WESTERN UNION mandate which can only be done if you are in FRANCE and is much more secure to ensure that there is more security and trust between us.
As for the payment for this package, I remind you that it will be made upon receiving the MINI EXCAVATOR after checking and verifying the papers and testing this MINI EXCAVATOR by receiving a POSTAL CHECK WESTERN UNION of (€2100) made via the post on the details that the seller himself will communicate to you of a person he trusts who is in France like us
I inform you that once the WESTERN UNION POSTAL CHECK is made, you will keep this receipt carefully and all the information in the mandate that allows you to withdraw the money as a guarantee of your money and it is only upon delivery, that is to say, on the day of the appointment in front of the MINI EXCAVATOR after trying it and verifying the papers if everything is ok for you and for the conclusion of the sale we will proceed to exchange the MINI EXCAVATOR for the western union postal check
If upon receipt, the MINI EXCAVATOR does not meet the standards that the seller specified, then you also have the right to cancel the purchase and ask me to return with the MINI EXCAVATOR, and you can return to the post office with the same receipt from the mandate to withdraw your deposited money so that they can refund you the transfer cost. You can contact me at 06-40-35-15-03
Thank you for responding to your seller Mr. CLEMENT LEDROI so that he can provide you with the information of a person in France to establish the WESTERN UNION mandate that you need to prepare and confirm to me so that I can make arrangements to deliver to you and know that you must establish it and confirm to me before 10 AM so that I can make arrangements for you to be delivered as soon as possible
IN THIS CASE, SEND A MESSAGE TO Mr. CLEMENT LEDROI AT HIS EMAIL ADDRESS TO ASK HIM FOR THE COORDINATES FOR THE WESTERN UNION POSTAL CHECK.
I can be reached at 06-40-35-15-03
You will have attached my identity card to prove that I am not an dishonest person.
THANK YOU AGAIN
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TESTIMONIALS, THEY HAVE BEEN OF CONSIDERABLE HELP BECAUSE I WAS JUST TWO FINGERS AWAY FROM GETTING SCAMMED AND
A THOUSAND TIMES THANK YOU.
KNOW THAT HE HAS MULTIPLE IDENTITIES BUT THE SAME WAYS TO SCAM, HE HAS A MARTINIQUAIS ACCENT.
HERE BELOW ARE THE EMAILS I RECEIVED:
1) I received your message and thank you for your interest in the sale of my MINI EXCAVATOR which I am selling for €2100 because I am currently in France and I need to travel for work, which is why the sale is urgent for me, and at this price, if you are interested, please let me know.
2) Hello
First of all, the equipment belongs to me, and I bought it with my own labor, and I have all the original papers which will be given to you upon delivery, and you will go through the verification before making your final decision on the purchase because given the price, it is because I have my trip ahead of me and I must sell it as soon as possible to settle some issues, otherwise I could never sell it like this.
On the other hand, for professional reasons, I must take my flight to Martinique SOON, so I have entrusted it to my transporter with all the papers in order for a secure home delivery.
So if you are interested in purchasing THE MINI EXCAVATOR, please provide me with the following information:
Your NAME................................
Your FIRST NAME...........................
DELIVERY ADDRESS........................
MOBILE PHONE NUMBER....................
LANDLINE NUMBER.............................
DAY THAT SUITS YOU FOR DELIVERY.........
So once this information is provided, I will organize with him so that he delivers THE MINI EXCAVATOR
I will put you in contact with the transporter so that you can try it, go through the verification of the papers, and if everything is ok for you, then you take it, but if not, he will take the MINI EXCAVATOR back
and you don't have to pay him any transportation fees since he is already paid for that because if it were possible for you to go directly to the transporter, I would have already given you his contact information, but it is not possible because he no longer allows clients to come to his shop because he was robbed, and now he has moved from where he was, and to make things easier for you, which is why I made the delivery free
€2100 including tax in cash
3) I RECEIVED AN EMAIL TODAY CONFIRMING FROM Mr. CLEMENT LEDROI YOUR HOME ADDRESS FOR THE DELIVERY OF YOUR MINI EXCAVATOR
Which will be delivered to you with:
- The registration certificate struck out and signed (by the seller)
- The 3 parts of the transfer certificate with the sections concerning the seller filled out and signed.
- The non-pledge certificate corresponding
- The spare keys as well as the card (given by the dealer) allowing to make other copies in case of
loss of keys.
- The updated maintenance booklet
- All invoices in support.
- 1 certificate of a new delivery insurance dated one (1) week
- 1 delivery proxy certificate granted and signed by the town hall and the seller
- 1 notarized copy of my identity document (the one of me, the delivery person in charge of this delivery)
- 1 notarized copy of the owner's identity document to secure the transaction.
The delivery will be effective today at 11:00 based on your following details: -
INFOLINE: 06-40-35-15-03
PAYMENT PROCEDURE BY POST
Initially, it was agreed to make the payment in cash, which would be transformed into a POSTAL CHECK also called MANDATE between the seller and you, but to avoid any inconvenience (robberies or road accidents) that could possibly occur and considering the recent assault I was a victim of amounting to €3200 following a cash payment, this method of payment does not present any valid proof of payment according to the law and is not secure
that is why the payment will be made by a POSTAL CHECK WESTERN UNION also called WESTERN UNION mandate which can only be done if you are in FRANCE and is much more secure to ensure that there is more security and trust between us.
As for the payment for this package, I remind you that it will be made upon receiving the MINI EXCAVATOR after checking and verifying the papers and testing this MINI EXCAVATOR by receiving a POSTAL CHECK WESTERN UNION of (€2100) made via the post on the details that the seller himself will communicate to you of a person he trusts who is in France like us
I inform you that once the WESTERN UNION POSTAL CHECK is made, you will keep this receipt carefully and all the information in the mandate that allows you to withdraw the money as a guarantee of your money and it is only upon delivery, that is to say, on the day of the appointment in front of the MINI EXCAVATOR after trying it and verifying the papers if everything is ok for you and for the conclusion of the sale we will proceed to exchange the MINI EXCAVATOR for the western union postal check
If upon receipt, the MINI EXCAVATOR does not meet the standards that the seller specified, then you also have the right to cancel the purchase and ask me to return with the MINI EXCAVATOR, and you can return to the post office with the same receipt from the mandate to withdraw your deposited money so that they can refund you the transfer cost. You can contact me at 06-40-35-15-03
Thank you for responding to your seller Mr. CLEMENT LEDROI so that he can provide you with the information of a person in France to establish the WESTERN UNION mandate that you need to prepare and confirm to me so that I can make arrangements to deliver to you and know that you must establish it and confirm to me before 10 AM so that I can make arrangements for you to be delivered as soon as possible
IN THIS CASE, SEND A MESSAGE TO Mr. CLEMENT LEDROI AT HIS EMAIL ADDRESS TO ASK HIM FOR THE COORDINATES FOR THE WESTERN UNION POSTAL CHECK.
I can be reached at 06-40-35-15-03
You will have attached my identity card to prove that I am not an dishonest person.
THANK YOU AGAIN
Hello..
Your scammer has a 'particular' handwriting certainly not learned in the classrooms of the Republic (French..)... Writing evoking warmth, palm trees, cocoa, and wild beasts in the bush..
I love the 'Attached you will find my identity card as proof that I am not an dishonest person.'.. But who would dare think that Mr. Clément Ledroit (mouarff) is not credible?? One might want to believe in these outbursts of sincerity but the sense of reality sadly brings us back to nasty thoughts that are quite realistic.. It has the aspect, taste, and well-known smell of a scam.. The routine of attempted fraud..
He can stick the mini digger where everyone thinks he should! (That will be a shock for him...)
See you later
Your scammer has a 'particular' handwriting certainly not learned in the classrooms of the Republic (French..)... Writing evoking warmth, palm trees, cocoa, and wild beasts in the bush..
I love the 'Attached you will find my identity card as proof that I am not an dishonest person.'.. But who would dare think that Mr. Clément Ledroit (mouarff) is not credible?? One might want to believe in these outbursts of sincerity but the sense of reality sadly brings us back to nasty thoughts that are quite realistic.. It has the aspect, taste, and well-known smell of a scam.. The routine of attempted fraud..
He can stick the mini digger where everyone thinks he should! (That will be a shock for him...)
See you later
Hello,
I too have had dealings with these people, not with the same name, and not for a car without a license, but they have the same phone numbers. On an animal adoption site, a woman (supposedly Eunice Delangle) was giving away her cat (which is beautiful, it looks like a cheetah) but she was far away, so I had to pay transport fees, etc....
The transport company has the number 22993057106 (what a coincidence) and then they gave me another number that is none other than 08!!!
Except that to send the money, I was given this address: LOCOH Dodji, rue avenue général, 00228 LOM in Togo, and they asked for a cash transfer via Western Union.
The thing is, I refused to pay anything before having proof or receiving the cat, so now I know what to expect!!!!!
It's really a shame that we can't do anything... It's not normal!!
I too have had dealings with these people, not with the same name, and not for a car without a license, but they have the same phone numbers. On an animal adoption site, a woman (supposedly Eunice Delangle) was giving away her cat (which is beautiful, it looks like a cheetah) but she was far away, so I had to pay transport fees, etc....
The transport company has the number 22993057106 (what a coincidence) and then they gave me another number that is none other than 08!!!
Except that to send the money, I was given this address: LOCOH Dodji, rue avenue général, 00228 LOM in Togo, and they asked for a cash transfer via Western Union.
The thing is, I refused to pay anything before having proof or receiving the cat, so now I know what to expect!!!!!
It's really a shame that we can't do anything... It's not normal!!
So his email is delangle_eun@yahoo.fr, and the transport company's email is rivotransports@yahoo.fr.
Salut, I got contacted following an ad I posted on Kijiji for a vehicle without a license, and now it has started. Thank you for your messages.
Hi there, I almost got scammed too but the number was 22993503306. The guy in question was a certain Martin and he was also in Benin, so be careful. Good luck for what's next.
Hello everyone, my mother-in-law was scammed out of 400 euros by these guys. Of course, she needs this money. The scam site is announced as goannonce.com. She was supposed to send the money by money order to Togo. To be sure about this scam, I applied for a 206 myself. Obviously, the phone number was the same. So if anyone has contacted an association and has been reimbursed by Info Consommateur or any other association, please let us know. Thank you all.
Hello,
I join you in denouncing several people, all from Benin or claiming to be on a mission in Benin, who give French names and supposedly show their generosity by offering driverless cars to elderly people.
I responded to their ad, and I noticed that Lopez Fabrice supposedly stole the ad for the 206 posted on eBay, while he does not have a 206 as a driverless car.
I sent him a return photo of identical cars, that is to say, his photo hiding the license plate number and the photo of the same car on eBay with the license plate number and also the same characteristics of the car.
I made an ad asking for a donation of VSP. They responded, leaving the phone number 0022997157206 or 00229 97299269. I had this gentleman contact me directly for the car pickup by his transporter.
I understood immediately. I am ready to testify. They need to stop; I am also Beninese, and I am ashamed of these starving people who live above others. It's misery. Beware, everything has a price.
Doudou
I join you in denouncing several people, all from Benin or claiming to be on a mission in Benin, who give French names and supposedly show their generosity by offering driverless cars to elderly people.
I responded to their ad, and I noticed that Lopez Fabrice supposedly stole the ad for the 206 posted on eBay, while he does not have a 206 as a driverless car.
I sent him a return photo of identical cars, that is to say, his photo hiding the license plate number and the photo of the same car on eBay with the license plate number and also the same characteristics of the car.
I made an ad asking for a donation of VSP. They responded, leaving the phone number 0022997157206 or 00229 97299269. I had this gentleman contact me directly for the car pickup by his transporter.
I understood immediately. I am ready to testify. They need to stop; I am also Beninese, and I am ashamed of these starving people who live above others. It's misery. Beware, everything has a price.
Doudou
§§§§WARNING SCAM FOR CARS WITHOUT LICENSE§§§
All the ads that offer you donations of cars without a license are scams.
After writing to them, they explain that the car is in Benin or in Africa and that you need to pay the shipping costs.
THIS IS FALSE!!! Don't be fooled; remember that in Benin there are more people in need than here and that their only interest in sending it to you is to take your money and disappear.
BENIN=THIEF=SWINDLER
All the ads that offer you donations of cars without a license are scams.
After writing to them, they explain that the car is in Benin or in Africa and that you need to pay the shipping costs.
THIS IS FALSE!!! Don't be fooled; remember that in Benin there are more people in need than here and that their only interest in sending it to you is to take your money and disappear.
BENIN=THIEF=SWINDLER
Here are some examples of scam emails
carole.richie@gmail.com
Good evening
We have received your message. Indeed, you are not the only person to respond to this donation advertisement. However, we must confess that after reading your message, you have been the correspondent who has captured our attention the most; maybe it is simply a woman's instinct, or perhaps it's telepathy that made us choose you. We are Mr. and Mrs. RICHIE, I am Carole and my husband is Vincent, we are purely social individuals. But the problem is that after the death of our son, we were transferred from FRANCE to BENIN and unable to find a buyer immediately, we decided to give away his unlicensed car.
As noted, only the transport costs are your responsibility, so
we have contacted various transport companies and the
cheapest one offers home delivery with a registered vehicle for
450 Euros.
However, we will send you all the necessary documents plus all the administrative procedures giving you the rights as the beneficiary of this vehicle.
We are therefore waiting for your news on how to proceed
cordially
Mr. and Mrs. RICHIE
but they sent me others
The car is with us here in Benin. The transport company we chose based on their reliability is of course GLOBAL TRANSPORT; they are the only ones capable of executing the transport properly. As for the car papers, you will receive them upon arrival in a sealed envelope and you will sign on the buyer's side; they will take care of everything with your full name and address.
There is no reason to panic; from transport to delivery, you will be in permanent contact with the entity here in Benin as well as the entity that will handle delivery once it reaches France.
So we are waiting for your name, first name, date of birth, and full address to register the car in your name. Once this is done, you will get the confirmations and contacts.
Best regards
and then
2008/7/24 carole richie <carole.richie@gmail.com>:
Yes exactly currently we are in Benin because my husband signed a contract for 2 years and we have been here for 9 months. We would have liked to meet you before the car reaches you, but due to my husband’s work, we can no longer do that, but by December we will take a trip because we have our grandparents there who are alive and are in their 70s. What is certain is that we will see each other. We ask you that as soon as the car arrives at your destination, to keep it safe.
DON'T BE FOOLED, THESE ARE LIES
they really think I will send them money, I think I will warn Julien Courbet.
carole.richie@gmail.com
Good evening
We have received your message. Indeed, you are not the only person to respond to this donation advertisement. However, we must confess that after reading your message, you have been the correspondent who has captured our attention the most; maybe it is simply a woman's instinct, or perhaps it's telepathy that made us choose you. We are Mr. and Mrs. RICHIE, I am Carole and my husband is Vincent, we are purely social individuals. But the problem is that after the death of our son, we were transferred from FRANCE to BENIN and unable to find a buyer immediately, we decided to give away his unlicensed car.
As noted, only the transport costs are your responsibility, so
we have contacted various transport companies and the
cheapest one offers home delivery with a registered vehicle for
450 Euros.
However, we will send you all the necessary documents plus all the administrative procedures giving you the rights as the beneficiary of this vehicle.
We are therefore waiting for your news on how to proceed
cordially
Mr. and Mrs. RICHIE
but they sent me others
The car is with us here in Benin. The transport company we chose based on their reliability is of course GLOBAL TRANSPORT; they are the only ones capable of executing the transport properly. As for the car papers, you will receive them upon arrival in a sealed envelope and you will sign on the buyer's side; they will take care of everything with your full name and address.
There is no reason to panic; from transport to delivery, you will be in permanent contact with the entity here in Benin as well as the entity that will handle delivery once it reaches France.
So we are waiting for your name, first name, date of birth, and full address to register the car in your name. Once this is done, you will get the confirmations and contacts.
Best regards
and then
2008/7/24 carole richie <carole.richie@gmail.com>:
Yes exactly currently we are in Benin because my husband signed a contract for 2 years and we have been here for 9 months. We would have liked to meet you before the car reaches you, but due to my husband’s work, we can no longer do that, but by December we will take a trip because we have our grandparents there who are alive and are in their 70s. What is certain is that we will see each other. We ask you that as soon as the car arrives at your destination, to keep it safe.
DON'T BE FOOLED, THESE ARE LIES
they really think I will send them money, I think I will warn Julien Courbet.
Threats are their last card. If they haven't convinced you with their scenario, they sometimes try intimidation.
No need to panic:
1) They are just guys behind a computer. Their job is to convince you to part with your money. They are not killers.
2) It's not easy to come to France, and even if they have friends in the country, there is very little chance that those people will be willing to help them and risk ending up in jail or being deported for these scams.
If you've received threats: go report it to the police.
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Bourreaucat at your service
No need to panic:
1) They are just guys behind a computer. Their job is to convince you to part with your money. They are not killers.
2) It's not easy to come to France, and even if they have friends in the country, there is very little chance that those people will be willing to help them and risk ending up in jail or being deported for these scams.
If you've received threats: go report it to the police.
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Bourreaucat at your service
Yes, I also received yesterday, July 31, 2009, the same text word for word except it wasn't the same last name but everything is the same!! Purely about the social aspect and the death of their son Mutte in Benin, etc... they are demanding 253 euros half now and the other half upon delivery!!!!
What got my attention is that I received another message from a man who is also Mutte in Benin and wants to give away his car, etc... for 250 euros!!!
This is serious!!!
Their pseudonyms are: gerarddebleu@gmail.com
and justinbolli@yahoo.fr phone number: 00229 980 542 76!!!
There you go, if this can help someone!!!
What got my attention is that I received another message from a man who is also Mutte in Benin and wants to give away his car, etc... for 250 euros!!!
This is serious!!!
Their pseudonyms are: gerarddebleu@gmail.com
and justinbolli@yahoo.fr phone number: 00229 980 542 76!!!
There you go, if this can help someone!!!
Bravo,
you did well to do some research before sending them the money, I included the content of the emails for the skeptics to be convinced that EVERYTHING IS FAKE!!!
I’m glad that all our testimonies help to warn people and that they are useful.
Moreover, I sent an email to the journalists of "sans aucun doute," maybe they will talk about this scam in the show to warn as many people as possible!!
you did well to do some research before sending them the money, I included the content of the emails for the skeptics to be convinced that EVERYTHING IS FAKE!!!
I’m glad that all our testimonies help to warn people and that they are useful.
Moreover, I sent an email to the journalists of "sans aucun doute," maybe they will talk about this scam in the show to warn as many people as possible!!
Hello,
I almost got scammed too by someone named "eric maurtier" via Western Union. I realized it was a scam when I spoke to the guy on the phone and he didn't know what to say except to get me to send €1150 via Western Union. The guy didn't even remember whether he was Mr. Maurtier (supposedly the seller) or Mr. Pilon (supposedly the caretaker of the vehicle in Corsica). The number was 0022 997 768 535 and the email address was ericmaurtier@gmail.com.
So be careful of this Eric if you hear about him.
I almost got scammed too by someone named "eric maurtier" via Western Union. I realized it was a scam when I spoke to the guy on the phone and he didn't know what to say except to get me to send €1150 via Western Union. The guy didn't even remember whether he was Mr. Maurtier (supposedly the seller) or Mr. Pilon (supposedly the caretaker of the vehicle in Corsica). The number was 0022 997 768 535 and the email address was ericmaurtier@gmail.com.
So be careful of this Eric if you hear about him.
That's funny, especially since it happens more and more often! :)
It's also the point of precise testimonies: it forces them to constantly change usernames and email addresses, and often, they don't even know who they are, what they're buying or selling, and which scenario they're using.
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Bourreaucat at your service
It's also the point of precise testimonies: it forces them to constantly change usernames and email addresses, and often, they don't even know who they are, what they're buying or selling, and which scenario they're using.
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Bourreaucat at your service
Good evening everyone, I almost fell victim to these unscrupulous people as well... fortunately, the fact that they asked for my address and their poor spelling and French raised my suspicions! I wanted to go pick up the car myself on site, and then he had to admit that it was located in Africa. I quickly shut him down, but he insisted for a little while with a few emails, until I became more aggressive and blocked his email in my chat inbox. Don't be fooled, nothing is ever free, especially in our time... Good luck to all those who have lost money, get back on your feet and forget all about this story. Best regards.
Hello everyone, yes we just went through this a few days ago, please don't make the same mistake as us, you should not send money via Western Union to Benin. Here are the details of our scamer: last name: Adohouannon
first name: Babilas
city: Cotonou
The advertiser claims to be named: Benoit Seze
this guy said he was making a donation, but he actually scammed us out of 100 euros with his Beninese accomplices. We did not give in to their demand for more money that they asked of us.
We are looking for a car without a driving license to be able to move around due to a serious accident my fiancé had, which cost him his right arm, and he took advantage of our trust.
Please be very careful and do not trust just anyone!
first name: Babilas
city: Cotonou
The advertiser claims to be named: Benoit Seze
this guy said he was making a donation, but he actually scammed us out of 100 euros with his Beninese accomplices. We did not give in to their demand for more money that they asked of us.
We are looking for a car without a driving license to be able to move around due to a serious accident my fiancé had, which cost him his right arm, and he took advantage of our trust.
Please be very careful and do not trust just anyone!
Bonsoir, je suis désolé pour ton compagnon. Moi, j'ai eu de la chance quand ils m'ont demandé 500 euros, j'ai pris peur. Je trouve ça dégueulasse de profiter de gens qui n'ont pas beaucoup de moyens et de personnes qui sont obligées parce qu'elles sont blessées. Lydie, une jeune de 22 ans, en a trouvé une. Bon courage à vous.
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I am a deaf woman who was scammed by a certain Martin Dubois who works in Benin, like the ambassador of France. I would like to know how to file a complaint because I paid 350 euros for nothing. I am very angry with them, he took advantage of my disability, it's unacceptable, it's disgusting. If only I had noticed this earlier, I would have avoided it.