Unable to remove UEFI BIOS at startup
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Hello everyone, I'm reaching out after trying everything. My PC, which I received four days ago, only starts in UEFI mode, no matter what I do. I've already disabled secure boot, tried CSM auto/active/disabled, and almost all the BIOS options, reinstalled Windows 10, and followed all the suggestions on various sites and forums. I have Windows Boot Manager set as the first boot option (followed by the name of my HDD). The only way to get Windows running is to force it by simply clicking on Windows Boot Manager, but the problem is that when I do this, I can't update Windows, which prevents my graphics card from functioning because it needs the latest driver available with the Windows update. I want to clarify that my HDD does not work as the first boot option; even when I try to force it, it just goes back to the boot settings, yet the hard drive works perfectly. No matter what I do, I'm not sure if it could be a hardware issue or something else. I've already done all the settings like CLR_cmos reset, etc. I want to emphasize that when I force it by clicking on Windows Boot, everything works fine.
My configuration: I5 7600K
GPU: GTX 1070 ti, but it needs the update to be detected
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus VIII RANGER
Power supply: Cooler Master 650w
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB, GPT partition
If you have a miracle solution, please!
My configuration: I5 7600K
GPU: GTX 1070 ti, but it needs the update to be detected
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus VIII RANGER
Power supply: Cooler Master 650w
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB, GPT partition
If you have a miracle solution, please!
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Yes, it is normal if the HDD is in GPT, the booting must be done in UEFI necessarily, otherwise it needs to be set to NTFS.
Note that a Maximus VIII is in any case natively UEFI.
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Note that a Maximus VIII is in any case natively UEFI.
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Warfreaz
How to format it to NTFS please?
Warfreaz
And thank you for your response.
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Hi, I don't understand why you want to change the UEFI mode?
Warfreaz
My PC boots directly into the UEFI BIOS and not Windows, and I have to force it to boot into Windows. I just checked the file system of my disk and it's NTFS.
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You mean that when you turn on your PC, you go directly to the BIOS?
Good evening!
"My disk is simple to see; I set the ROM option to UEFI and legacy only, and then I see it, but when I set it to UEFI only, I don't see it. I only see Windows Boot Manager. However, my disk is GPT and NTFS, but I can only launch Windows Boot Manager (disk name) by clicking on the hard drive, but Windows is inaccessible from the normal hard drive."
Incomprehensible....
I hope you installed Windows 10 the first time with the BIOS set to UEFI.
The installation must have installed Windows 10 by formatting your hard drive to GPT with NTFS file system.
It’s automatic.
And finally, everything is fine.
Keep your BIOS set to UEFI.
Then you must have had a boot into the BIOS instead of directly launching Windows.
Boot order:
Windows Boot Manager (disk name), it's normal; that means the PC will launch Windows first, which is on disk xxx.
It's probably a completely different option in the BIOS to activate or deactivate to avoid going through the BIOS at startup.
Find it; check on your side if there’s a line that could correspond to that kind of option, but don’t touch anything before telling me what it says.
I’ll check on my side in parallel.
And it has nothing to do with UEFI if you have update issues.
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"My disk is simple to see; I set the ROM option to UEFI and legacy only, and then I see it, but when I set it to UEFI only, I don't see it. I only see Windows Boot Manager. However, my disk is GPT and NTFS, but I can only launch Windows Boot Manager (disk name) by clicking on the hard drive, but Windows is inaccessible from the normal hard drive."
Incomprehensible....
I hope you installed Windows 10 the first time with the BIOS set to UEFI.
The installation must have installed Windows 10 by formatting your hard drive to GPT with NTFS file system.
It’s automatic.
And finally, everything is fine.
Keep your BIOS set to UEFI.
Then you must have had a boot into the BIOS instead of directly launching Windows.
Boot order:
Windows Boot Manager (disk name), it's normal; that means the PC will launch Windows first, which is on disk xxx.
It's probably a completely different option in the BIOS to activate or deactivate to avoid going through the BIOS at startup.
Find it; check on your side if there’s a line that could correspond to that kind of option, but don’t touch anything before telling me what it says.
I’ll check on my side in parallel.
And it has nothing to do with UEFI if you have update issues.
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After finding a solution, please remember to mark it as RESOLVED.
Also, giving feedback is always nice towards those who helped you. THANK YOU!!! :-)
It's understandable when you know the BIOS. Is that what it says? If I do a clr_mos to reset the BIOS to default settings, can I do it? And I will check the BIOS thoroughly; I'll let you know tomorrow if you come back to this forum. Thank you for your help, even though I think I've already done everything.
What you are doing is incomprehensible.
"It's understandable when you know the BIOS
If you imply that I don’t know anything, I don't think I'll bother looking, but I don't think that's what you meant and that you're just a little annoyed.
I'm saying you need to leave your BIOS in UEFI.
Then do a normal installation of Windows 10.
After UEFI, we don't touch it anymore.
And if instead of booting directly into Windows, you end up at the boot choice with Windows Boot Manager (disk name) and clicking on it launches Windows.
That indicates that the Windows installation is okay.
We don't touch anything else (leave UEFI).
Your issue comes from elsewhere if each time it brings you back to the boot choice instead of launching Windows directly.
Another parameter in the BIOS.
Or
> after researching the unstable BIOS version of the motherboard
or
> an update for issues with certain Intel CPUs
Don't do anything for now, before I would like to know what processor you have installed?
"It's understandable when you know the BIOS
If you imply that I don’t know anything, I don't think I'll bother looking, but I don't think that's what you meant and that you're just a little annoyed.
I'm saying you need to leave your BIOS in UEFI.
Then do a normal installation of Windows 10.
After UEFI, we don't touch it anymore.
And if instead of booting directly into Windows, you end up at the boot choice with Windows Boot Manager (disk name) and clicking on it launches Windows.
That indicates that the Windows installation is okay.
We don't touch anything else (leave UEFI).
Your issue comes from elsewhere if each time it brings you back to the boot choice instead of launching Windows directly.
Another parameter in the BIOS.
Or
> after researching the unstable BIOS version of the motherboard
or
> an update for issues with certain Intel CPUs
Don't do anything for now, before I would like to know what processor you have installed?
Of course I'm annoyed, I've spent more than 24 hours looking for this, but I wasn't saying you don't know anything; you probably know more than I do. I just meant that depending on the BIOS of the different brands like Asus or MSI, it can change. At least I understood what I was writing, that's why.
I'm going to sleep; I'll let you know tomorrow if you come back here.
I'm going to sleep; I'll let you know tomorrow if you come back here.
Yes, you understand, but not being on the PC makes it complicated to understand you.
Write and connect as if you knew nothing about the PC, you’ll see that you’re perhaps not clear enough.
Simply because you indicate the issue while mixing it with the attempts at solutions you have tried.
Be neutral, just state how you installed Windows and the issue that would have arisen afterward.
;-)
Write and connect as if you knew nothing about the PC, you’ll see that you’re perhaps not clear enough.
Simply because you indicate the issue while mixing it with the attempts at solutions you have tried.
Be neutral, just state how you installed Windows and the issue that would have arisen afterward.
;-)
Before searching too much with my previous message (which we'll leave aside for now)
I saw that you said you have the 10240 install of Windows 10.
That corresponds to the first version released.
I don't know what medium you're using to have this old version of Windows.
And from now on, don't mention legacy, inherited, CSM, or anything else.
A Windows 10 (even since W7) installs normally on a UEFI BIOS, so if there's a problem, that's not where it lies ;-)
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Let's start fresh by installing the latest version of Windows 10.
Good to know:
By creating a USB installation drive with the tool provided on the Microsoft site, you will directly get the very latest version of Windows 10.
So go to this page:
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/software-download/windows10
Click on:
Download the tool now
Run it and follow the instructions to create your installation USB drive.
In parallel, make sure to reset your BIOS to default on your new PC (in UEFI)
Once your USB drive is made.
Plug it into the problematic PC (make sure to reset the BIOS to default first, it should be in UEFI)
Start your PC
Reinstall by formatting to make sure it's clean.
You will see that you will be on the latest version of Windows 10.
And maybe no more issues.
If there are issues, we will almost be sure that it doesn't come from the Windows installation.
I saw that you said you have the 10240 install of Windows 10.
That corresponds to the first version released.
I don't know what medium you're using to have this old version of Windows.
And from now on, don't mention legacy, inherited, CSM, or anything else.
A Windows 10 (even since W7) installs normally on a UEFI BIOS, so if there's a problem, that's not where it lies ;-)
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Let's start fresh by installing the latest version of Windows 10.
Good to know:
By creating a USB installation drive with the tool provided on the Microsoft site, you will directly get the very latest version of Windows 10.
So go to this page:
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/software-download/windows10
Click on:
Download the tool now
Run it and follow the instructions to create your installation USB drive.
In parallel, make sure to reset your BIOS to default on your new PC (in UEFI)
Once your USB drive is made.
Plug it into the problematic PC (make sure to reset the BIOS to default first, it should be in UEFI)
Start your PC
Reinstall by formatting to make sure it's clean.
You will see that you will be on the latest version of Windows 10.
And maybe no more issues.
If there are issues, we will almost be sure that it doesn't come from the Windows installation.
After finding a solution, remember to mark it as SOLVED.
Also, giving feedback from your side is always nice towards those who helped you. THANK YOU !!! :-)
Which SATA port is your HDD connected to?
If it's connected to a SATAexpress, you need to switch the Intel controller to "RAID" (in the UEFI), this is a feature from Asus on certain motherboards.
And as mentioned earlier, take the latest version of Windows 10, keep the UEFI in UEFI mode (and let's stop talking about BIOS, it no longer exists).
If it's connected to a SATAexpress, you need to switch the Intel controller to "RAID" (in the UEFI), this is a feature from Asus on certain motherboards.
And as mentioned earlier, take the latest version of Windows 10, keep the UEFI in UEFI mode (and let's stop talking about BIOS, it no longer exists).
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press Shift+F10 to open the command prompt.
The Shift key is the big arrow
In the command prompt, type DISKPART and press Enter.
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You arrive at DISKPART
Then type and press Enter the following commands (one after the other)
LIST DISK
Explanation:
This displays the disks you have if your PC has multiple ones.
(Tell me their size if there are multiple and you are unsure)
SELECT DISK disk number
Explanation:
Here you type the command SELECT DISK with the disk number, but you should only have one so ...
CLEAN
Explanation:
This erases everything on the selected disk
CONVERT GPT
Explanation:
This converts the selected disk to GPT (from MBR to GPT just in case)
It should indicate something like "successfully converted ..."
if this is the case, you are good.
To exit this window, type:
EXIT
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You find yourself back at the installation
Close the alert message if still present.
You are at the screen where there are your partitions.
Find and click on Refresh.
Then you should see a single partition that should be the total size of your disk
Tell me what you have at that moment, before continuing the installation
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The Shift key is the big arrow
In the command prompt, type DISKPART and press Enter.
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You arrive at DISKPART
Then type and press Enter the following commands (one after the other)
LIST DISK
Explanation:
This displays the disks you have if your PC has multiple ones.
(Tell me their size if there are multiple and you are unsure)
SELECT DISK disk number
Explanation:
Here you type the command SELECT DISK with the disk number, but you should only have one so ...
CLEAN
Explanation:
This erases everything on the selected disk
CONVERT GPT
Explanation:
This converts the selected disk to GPT (from MBR to GPT just in case)
It should indicate something like "successfully converted ..."
if this is the case, you are good.
To exit this window, type:
EXIT
--------------------------------------
You find yourself back at the installation
Close the alert message if still present.
You are at the screen where there are your partitions.
Find and click on Refresh.
Then you should see a single partition that should be the total size of your disk
Tell me what you have at that moment, before continuing the installation
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After finding a solution, remember to mark it as SOLVED.
Also, giving feedback is always nice for those who helped you THANK YOU!!! :-)
Morality: you have a lot less hassle with Linux!.. except that installing Ubuntu 18.04 is a huge pain because of UEFI, which reboots by itself.
My troubles came from an original Win 8.1 that was forced on me against my will.
It's really a nuisance Win 8.1 and UEFI; who is the cohort of complete idiots responsible for such junk?
The only solution I could find was to connect a hard drive containing Win7 (in BIOS mode, therefore disabling UEFI).
Of course, I had to connect a USB WiFi card to access the web and update the drivers with Driver Booster.
At least now it works.
Installing Ubuntu 16.04 alongside is then straightforward.
I only use Win$ when I have no other choice; serious work is done much better on Linux.
My troubles came from an original Win 8.1 that was forced on me against my will.
It's really a nuisance Win 8.1 and UEFI; who is the cohort of complete idiots responsible for such junk?
The only solution I could find was to connect a hard drive containing Win7 (in BIOS mode, therefore disabling UEFI).
Of course, I had to connect a USB WiFi card to access the web and update the drivers with Driver Booster.
At least now it works.
Installing Ubuntu 16.04 alongside is then straightforward.
I only use Win$ when I have no other choice; serious work is done much better on Linux.