Différence entre le son 5.1 et le DTS
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mouyourt
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Hello,
I would like to know the difference between 5.1 sound and DTS.
Because when I watch DVDs, the audio menu gives me the option to choose either 5.1 sound or DTS.
Which one should I choose for better sound or perhaps more sound effects?
Thanks in advance.
Mouyourt (Seb).
I would like to know the difference between 5.1 sound and DTS.
Because when I watch DVDs, the audio menu gives me the option to choose either 5.1 sound or DTS.
Which one should I choose for better sound or perhaps more sound effects?
Thanks in advance.
Mouyourt (Seb).
Configuration: AMD Athlon XP 2200+ 1.80 GHz, 768 MB of RAM, 2 hard drives (30 and 80 GB), 1 DVD player and 1 DVD/CD burner, graphics card: RADEON 9600 PRO
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a bit of info even if resolved:
initially, all sound was in mono or 1.0 (for a single channel). then it modernized and we could have sound in 2.0 to achieve stereo (left and right channels). later, 4.0 appeared, equivalent to 2.0 x2 to provide some depth and thus better sound distribution. then the first Dolby technologies arrived like Pro Logic, Dolby SR, Dolby SRS... which spatialized stereo sound and simulated multichannel with a base of front left, front right, center, and 2 mono surround channels. then it improved further, Dolby Pro Logic 2 came along and replaced mono spatialized surround with two distinct channels. then the first Dolby Digital 5.1 appeared with digital sound specially made in DD 5.1 to achieve perfectly multichannel sound. but then, some Dolby employees had an idea to compress Dolby less to make it better. However, Dolby didn't like it and basically thanked them. later, they created the DTS logo in France, which is largely based on the same idea as Dolby but with different encoding and less compression, resulting in better sound in general than the best Dolby in the same range (I'm not talking about HD sound from Blu-rays, for example). thus competition was born, and those who love good sound prefer DTS for being more dynamic and responsive.
DTS, like Dolby, is often associated with either 2.0 or 5.1, but there are many DVD films and music that have Dolby Digital Surround sound providing a central channel at the back, like in Harry Potter or Star Wars, or DTS ES Matrix or DTS ES Discrete, also providing sound with a central channel at the back, as found in 007 Die Another Day for example.
for high definition sounds, in addition to the sounds mentioned above, there are Dolby High Definition or Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby True HD, DTS High Definition, and DTS Master Audio. The high definition/plus versions provide better sound than "classic" Dolby or DTS, and the True HD or Master Audio delivers studio quality without compression with sound significantly better in DTS (which is why we see more of it). Among the indicated HD sounds, you can find from 1.0 to 7.1, the majority unfortunately being 5.1. Otherwise, there is also PCM, which is also uncompressed and occasionally better than DTS MA but sometimes not, it all depends on the ear
anyway, one must not confuse 5.1 and DTS or Dolby or others. 5.1 indicates the number of speakers (3 in front, 2 at the back, and the .1 corresponds to the subwoofer). Dolby or DTS indicates the type of audio encoding.
there you go, hoping I helped despite everything, happy holidays!
initially, all sound was in mono or 1.0 (for a single channel). then it modernized and we could have sound in 2.0 to achieve stereo (left and right channels). later, 4.0 appeared, equivalent to 2.0 x2 to provide some depth and thus better sound distribution. then the first Dolby technologies arrived like Pro Logic, Dolby SR, Dolby SRS... which spatialized stereo sound and simulated multichannel with a base of front left, front right, center, and 2 mono surround channels. then it improved further, Dolby Pro Logic 2 came along and replaced mono spatialized surround with two distinct channels. then the first Dolby Digital 5.1 appeared with digital sound specially made in DD 5.1 to achieve perfectly multichannel sound. but then, some Dolby employees had an idea to compress Dolby less to make it better. However, Dolby didn't like it and basically thanked them. later, they created the DTS logo in France, which is largely based on the same idea as Dolby but with different encoding and less compression, resulting in better sound in general than the best Dolby in the same range (I'm not talking about HD sound from Blu-rays, for example). thus competition was born, and those who love good sound prefer DTS for being more dynamic and responsive.
DTS, like Dolby, is often associated with either 2.0 or 5.1, but there are many DVD films and music that have Dolby Digital Surround sound providing a central channel at the back, like in Harry Potter or Star Wars, or DTS ES Matrix or DTS ES Discrete, also providing sound with a central channel at the back, as found in 007 Die Another Day for example.
for high definition sounds, in addition to the sounds mentioned above, there are Dolby High Definition or Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby True HD, DTS High Definition, and DTS Master Audio. The high definition/plus versions provide better sound than "classic" Dolby or DTS, and the True HD or Master Audio delivers studio quality without compression with sound significantly better in DTS (which is why we see more of it). Among the indicated HD sounds, you can find from 1.0 to 7.1, the majority unfortunately being 5.1. Otherwise, there is also PCM, which is also uncompressed and occasionally better than DTS MA but sometimes not, it all depends on the ear
anyway, one must not confuse 5.1 and DTS or Dolby or others. 5.1 indicates the number of speakers (3 in front, 2 at the back, and the .1 corresponds to the subwoofer). Dolby or DTS indicates the type of audio encoding.
there you go, hoping I helped despite everything, happy holidays!
Hello,
Just a small remark that aims to be constructive:
A big thank you to Jimmi50 for the clarity of his explanations, which, my God, were spot on !!!!
I just want to make a remark about the pollution that is increasingly found on forums.
Indeed, more and more people are responding without any knowledge or understanding to questions asked
(e.g. "nice") which only mislead and add a layer of misinformation on the Internet.
I work in the professional audiovisual field, and I was simply looking to find a clear explanation of the difference between Dolby Digital (AC3) and DTS.
What I read at first really made me pale!!!
Please! If you're not sure of yourself, don't respond.
Thank you
Arteo
Just a small remark that aims to be constructive:
A big thank you to Jimmi50 for the clarity of his explanations, which, my God, were spot on !!!!
I just want to make a remark about the pollution that is increasingly found on forums.
Indeed, more and more people are responding without any knowledge or understanding to questions asked
(e.g. "nice") which only mislead and add a layer of misinformation on the Internet.
I work in the professional audiovisual field, and I was simply looking to find a clear explanation of the difference between Dolby Digital (AC3) and DTS.
What I read at first really made me pale!!!
Please! If you're not sure of yourself, don't respond.
Thank you
Arteo
Good evening,
The Digital Theater System audio coding system, abbreviated DTS, allows for sound rendering on six channels (5.1), similar to the Dolby Digital system, but with a lower compression rate. DTS is heavily inspired by the LC Concept format, designed by the French and now forgotten.
There are various DTS formats, including DTS surround from one to six channels, DTS-ES discrete or matrix depending on whether the rear channels are encoded or not, and DTS which retains the characteristics of DTS surround but on high-definition players (maximum 24 bits and 96 kHz). DTS HD is a high-quality audio format up to eight channels with a minimum bitrate of 6 Mbps, while DTS Master HD is currently one of the best consumer audio formats since it can deliver eight channels at 192 kHz in 24 bits with a variable bitrate of up to 24.5 Mbps. This last format is also compatible with HDMI 1.3.
History
The company’s first investor was Steven Spielberg, for whom sound rendering did not represent the know-how of the time for films where sound reproduction was of paramount importance. Work on this format began in 1991, four years after Dolby Laboratories started their work on the AC-3 codec (renamed Dolby Digital).
In cinemas, sound in AC-3 and SDDS is delivered from the playback of the 35 mm film while DTS sound is delivered from the playback of up to three CD-ROMs synchronized by a timecode present in the film.
In the home cinema field, the DTS sound cannot be distinguished from the original (transparency), unlike Dolby AC-3 encoding, because the bitrate used for DTS encoding is higher than AC-3. This remains true unless the DTS bitrate is reduced to 769 kbps (max 1.5 Mbps), with the maximum bitrate for Dolby AC-3 being 640 kbps. The bitrate used in cinemas is often higher than that of home cinemas. DVD video, to allow for the presence of audio tracks in both DTS and Dolby on the same DVD, reduces the audio bitrate of Dolby AC-3 to values near 448 kbps and sometimes 384 kbps. At 448 kbps, a Dolby AC-3 home cinema system offers superior quality to a cinema AC-3 setup.
It should be noted that the bitrate and nature of the AC-3 and DTS codecs cannot be used as objective indicators of sound quality.
The Digital Theater System audio coding system, abbreviated DTS, allows for sound rendering on six channels (5.1), similar to the Dolby Digital system, but with a lower compression rate. DTS is heavily inspired by the LC Concept format, designed by the French and now forgotten.
There are various DTS formats, including DTS surround from one to six channels, DTS-ES discrete or matrix depending on whether the rear channels are encoded or not, and DTS which retains the characteristics of DTS surround but on high-definition players (maximum 24 bits and 96 kHz). DTS HD is a high-quality audio format up to eight channels with a minimum bitrate of 6 Mbps, while DTS Master HD is currently one of the best consumer audio formats since it can deliver eight channels at 192 kHz in 24 bits with a variable bitrate of up to 24.5 Mbps. This last format is also compatible with HDMI 1.3.
History
The company’s first investor was Steven Spielberg, for whom sound rendering did not represent the know-how of the time for films where sound reproduction was of paramount importance. Work on this format began in 1991, four years after Dolby Laboratories started their work on the AC-3 codec (renamed Dolby Digital).
In cinemas, sound in AC-3 and SDDS is delivered from the playback of the 35 mm film while DTS sound is delivered from the playback of up to three CD-ROMs synchronized by a timecode present in the film.
In the home cinema field, the DTS sound cannot be distinguished from the original (transparency), unlike Dolby AC-3 encoding, because the bitrate used for DTS encoding is higher than AC-3. This remains true unless the DTS bitrate is reduced to 769 kbps (max 1.5 Mbps), with the maximum bitrate for Dolby AC-3 being 640 kbps. The bitrate used in cinemas is often higher than that of home cinemas. DVD video, to allow for the presence of audio tracks in both DTS and Dolby on the same DVD, reduces the audio bitrate of Dolby AC-3 to values near 448 kbps and sometimes 384 kbps. At 448 kbps, a Dolby AC-3 home cinema system offers superior quality to a cinema AC-3 setup.
It should be noted that the bitrate and nature of the AC-3 and DTS codecs cannot be used as objective indicators of sound quality.
"The DTS is heavily inspired by the LC Concept format, designed by the French and now forgotten."
If my sources are correct, a book recounting the saga of the LC Concept is being written. It should be called "Spielberg and Me." There was an initial draft on the website of the magazine Les Annees Laser, but when I went back to reread one of the paragraphs, I saw that access had been blocked. Certainly in view of a future publication.
At that time, there were no women in sound, but it is a woman (Elisabeth Lochen) who opposed Dolby, Matsushita, Universal, and Spielberg. And if what she says is true, she was beaten, had her machines stolen, and was cheated by the Hollywood giants.
It was truly fascinating to read. Lots of guys were insulting her, saying they started reading what she wrote around midnight and couldn't go to bed until 6 in the morning! I hope the book comes out soon!
If my sources are correct, a book recounting the saga of the LC Concept is being written. It should be called "Spielberg and Me." There was an initial draft on the website of the magazine Les Annees Laser, but when I went back to reread one of the paragraphs, I saw that access had been blocked. Certainly in view of a future publication.
At that time, there were no women in sound, but it is a woman (Elisabeth Lochen) who opposed Dolby, Matsushita, Universal, and Spielberg. And if what she says is true, she was beaten, had her machines stolen, and was cheated by the Hollywood giants.
It was truly fascinating to read. Lots of guys were insulting her, saying they started reading what she wrote around midnight and couldn't go to bed until 6 in the morning! I hope the book comes out soon!
Duel at the Top
Just a reminder, Dolby Digital and DTS are both discrete 5.1 audio formats, with independent tracks for surround effects allowing for perfect separation of sounds coming from each channel. They both have an additional channel for bass. The first differences appear at the level of digital data streams, which undeniably favors DTS. DTS has a resolution of 20 bits compared to 16 bits for DD, and a compression rate that is four times less. The downside is that DTS takes up much more space than DD, which limits certain possibilities regarding languages, subtitles, ...
The Film: "Saving Private Ryan" Shows the Advantage of DTS
In 1998, this film won five Oscars, including Best Sound and Best Sound Effects. Spielberg is very attached to DTS (Jurassic Park was the first film in DTS). But why this film rather than another? Simply because the entire audible bandwidth is requisitioned, and this is precisely where DD shows its limits due to its lower bit rate. Indeed, in explosions where only the bass is involved, DD holds its own against DTS, but when the decoder has to extract intelligible dialogues amidst sonic fury, there's no comparison—DTS performs better with improved clarity. DTS wins, but not in a staggering way!!!
Music: A Challenge for DTS
The surest way to put your DTS amplifier to work is not through DVD since the DTS offerings are still quite limited for now; rather, think about CDs. Many of them can benefit from this mixing, which propels you into very high fidelity in 5.1 and 20 bits.
Conclusion
Is DTS better than DD? Yes, but with some mitigating elements. To perceive these differences, one will need an expert ear and also speakers that have that little something which hurts the wallet. With small speakers, it's impossible to detect the slightest difference between DTS and DD, as the limits of the speakers are reached too quickly to bring them to light. Most users will be satisfied with DD, while audiophiles will prefer DTS or feed their passion with CDs. But let's not be mistaken, DTS does not outweigh Dolby Digital.
Just a reminder, Dolby Digital and DTS are both discrete 5.1 audio formats, with independent tracks for surround effects allowing for perfect separation of sounds coming from each channel. They both have an additional channel for bass. The first differences appear at the level of digital data streams, which undeniably favors DTS. DTS has a resolution of 20 bits compared to 16 bits for DD, and a compression rate that is four times less. The downside is that DTS takes up much more space than DD, which limits certain possibilities regarding languages, subtitles, ...
The Film: "Saving Private Ryan" Shows the Advantage of DTS
In 1998, this film won five Oscars, including Best Sound and Best Sound Effects. Spielberg is very attached to DTS (Jurassic Park was the first film in DTS). But why this film rather than another? Simply because the entire audible bandwidth is requisitioned, and this is precisely where DD shows its limits due to its lower bit rate. Indeed, in explosions where only the bass is involved, DD holds its own against DTS, but when the decoder has to extract intelligible dialogues amidst sonic fury, there's no comparison—DTS performs better with improved clarity. DTS wins, but not in a staggering way!!!
Music: A Challenge for DTS
The surest way to put your DTS amplifier to work is not through DVD since the DTS offerings are still quite limited for now; rather, think about CDs. Many of them can benefit from this mixing, which propels you into very high fidelity in 5.1 and 20 bits.
Conclusion
Is DTS better than DD? Yes, but with some mitigating elements. To perceive these differences, one will need an expert ear and also speakers that have that little something which hurts the wallet. With small speakers, it's impossible to detect the slightest difference between DTS and DD, as the limits of the speakers are reached too quickly to bring them to light. Most users will be satisfied with DD, while audiophiles will prefer DTS or feed their passion with CDs. But let's not be mistaken, DTS does not outweigh Dolby Digital.
Hi
apparently, nothing to do
The 5.1 sound means you will reproduce the audio recording on 6 separate channels:
- Front left
- Front right
- Center
- Rear left
- Rear right
- The bass through a special low-level channel (O-1V) requiring a subwoofer that has its own built-in amplifier.
DTS is an audio encoding system.
Personally, I prefer DTS; the compression is much less significant than in other standards, and therefore the sound is more natural.
In fact, DTS is to be contrasted with Dolby, but both can be encoded in 5.1
Anything else?
@+
apparently, nothing to do
The 5.1 sound means you will reproduce the audio recording on 6 separate channels:
- Front left
- Front right
- Center
- Rear left
- Rear right
- The bass through a special low-level channel (O-1V) requiring a subwoofer that has its own built-in amplifier.
DTS is an audio encoding system.
Personally, I prefer DTS; the compression is much less significant than in other standards, and therefore the sound is more natural.
In fact, DTS is to be contrasted with Dolby, but both can be encoded in 5.1
Anything else?
@+
Hello,
can you tell me if I need any special equipment to play a Blu-ray in DTS HD 5.1?
I bought a Blu-ray in this format, and when I play it on the PS3, there are fluctuations in the sound levels even though I'm not touching the remote. Is this normal? Is it due to my Blu-ray, or is it because I don't have a 5.1 speaker system?
Thanks in advance, I'm not really familiar with this kind of stuff.
can you tell me if I need any special equipment to play a Blu-ray in DTS HD 5.1?
I bought a Blu-ray in this format, and when I play it on the PS3, there are fluctuations in the sound levels even though I'm not touching the remote. Is this normal? Is it due to my Blu-ray, or is it because I don't have a 5.1 speaker system?
Thanks in advance, I'm not really familiar with this kind of stuff.
- for shaka06:
your issue does not stem from a malfunction but from a poor setting in the Play and/or in the amplifier you have. indeed, what you are indicating corresponds to what is called "dynamic compression," which will regulate the sound level based on the audio. it's a bit like an audio limiter that can be found on a TV, for example. disable it (in the audio/menu audio output, it's often labeled dynamic compression or dynamic range) - for your information, this setting was mainly useful in the days when there were very few "line inputs" on hi-fi systems, but had either a jack or phono input, and the signal is not the same, so this adjustment helps not to exceed a dB threshold - and it will be fine for the sound level. the best way to enjoy a DVD or Blu-ray, sound-wise I mean, is to set the player to "bitstream" or "stream" (the term varies from brand to brand but is often bitstream). then, if you are not using an HDMI cable for video and/or sound, the best is digital coaxial (usually an orange plug). some might say that the sound is better in optical, but technically that is incorrect because optical is limited to 1.5mbits/s while coaxial goes up to 13mbits/s. the sound comes out cleaner in coaxial. now, whether a Blu-ray or digital file has a dts hd high def or master audio track, as long as your amplifier can decode dts sounds, it will play dts. however, if you really want to enjoy the hd sound of dolby digital plus/true hd or dts hd high def/master audio, you will need an amplifier that can decode dd plus/true hd and dts hd high def/master audio. otherwise, you will have sound like a normal dolby or dts, but let's say it will still be better than a dts from a DVD even if it's "full rate dts." there you go.
- for jmimi50:
for dts, you don't necessarily need a 5.1 system. dts starts, like dolby, at 1.0 (DTS-encoded mono) up to 11.2 for professionals. now yes, if we want a sound that envelops us and everything, then we need at least a 5.1 system. furthermore, it is still true that no television decodes dts, but that is very quickly changing because dts is predominant on Blu-rays, and with 3D TVs, HDMI 1.4, and beyond full HD, it is expected that in a few months, Panasonic (if I'm not mistaken) will release the first TV with a dts high def decoder, in addition to standard dd plus. for the rest, okay, yes, if we want to start having quality, we should count on at least 300€ without speakers or 400€ with speakers (a subwoofer alone costs at least 300€). below those amounts, either it's totally outdated models without HDMI 1.3 but 1.1 unsellable, or they have poor quality/durability.
there you go
have a good evening
your issue does not stem from a malfunction but from a poor setting in the Play and/or in the amplifier you have. indeed, what you are indicating corresponds to what is called "dynamic compression," which will regulate the sound level based on the audio. it's a bit like an audio limiter that can be found on a TV, for example. disable it (in the audio/menu audio output, it's often labeled dynamic compression or dynamic range) - for your information, this setting was mainly useful in the days when there were very few "line inputs" on hi-fi systems, but had either a jack or phono input, and the signal is not the same, so this adjustment helps not to exceed a dB threshold - and it will be fine for the sound level. the best way to enjoy a DVD or Blu-ray, sound-wise I mean, is to set the player to "bitstream" or "stream" (the term varies from brand to brand but is often bitstream). then, if you are not using an HDMI cable for video and/or sound, the best is digital coaxial (usually an orange plug). some might say that the sound is better in optical, but technically that is incorrect because optical is limited to 1.5mbits/s while coaxial goes up to 13mbits/s. the sound comes out cleaner in coaxial. now, whether a Blu-ray or digital file has a dts hd high def or master audio track, as long as your amplifier can decode dts sounds, it will play dts. however, if you really want to enjoy the hd sound of dolby digital plus/true hd or dts hd high def/master audio, you will need an amplifier that can decode dd plus/true hd and dts hd high def/master audio. otherwise, you will have sound like a normal dolby or dts, but let's say it will still be better than a dts from a DVD even if it's "full rate dts." there you go.
- for jmimi50:
for dts, you don't necessarily need a 5.1 system. dts starts, like dolby, at 1.0 (DTS-encoded mono) up to 11.2 for professionals. now yes, if we want a sound that envelops us and everything, then we need at least a 5.1 system. furthermore, it is still true that no television decodes dts, but that is very quickly changing because dts is predominant on Blu-rays, and with 3D TVs, HDMI 1.4, and beyond full HD, it is expected that in a few months, Panasonic (if I'm not mistaken) will release the first TV with a dts high def decoder, in addition to standard dd plus. for the rest, okay, yes, if we want to start having quality, we should count on at least 300€ without speakers or 400€ with speakers (a subwoofer alone costs at least 300€). below those amounts, either it's totally outdated models without HDMI 1.3 but 1.1 unsellable, or they have poor quality/durability.
there you go
have a good evening
Thank you both for your responses.
To help you better, here is the equipment I use to watch Blu-rays. I have a PS3, an HD READY Samsung TV, and for sound, I connect a "standard" hi-fi system to my TV with a jack.
Fréderic76, I wanted to try the manipulations you suggested, but I couldn't find the "technical" elements you explained to make the changes. Is there anything else to do with the new elements I provided? Do I really need to buy a 5.1 setup after all? Or should I return my Blu-ray?
Thanks again to you.
To help you better, here is the equipment I use to watch Blu-rays. I have a PS3, an HD READY Samsung TV, and for sound, I connect a "standard" hi-fi system to my TV with a jack.
Fréderic76, I wanted to try the manipulations you suggested, but I couldn't find the "technical" elements you explained to make the changes. Is there anything else to do with the new elements I provided? Do I really need to buy a 5.1 setup after all? Or should I return my Blu-ray?
Thanks again to you.
- For Shaka:
For my part, I don't have a PS3 so I can't exactly tell you how to set it up, however, I was able to find the manual online and here it is:
BD/DVD dynamic range control
Enable or disable the dynamic range control of your PS3(TM) system while playing Blu-ray or DVD containing audio recorded in Dolby format (Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, and Dolby TrueHD). This setting can only be used if the linear PCM audio format is selected as the audio output format.
Automatic Automatically enables or disables the feature.
No Disables the dynamic range control.
Yes Enables the dynamic range control.
Tips
* When audio is played via an HDMI cable, you must select [Linear PCM] under (Settings) > (Video Settings) > [BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI)] to use this function.
* When you are playing audio via an optical digital cable, you must proceed as follows to use this function:
* - For BD playback: select [Linear PCM] under (Settings) > (Video Settings) > [BD Audio Output Format (Optical)].
* - For DVD playback: disable [Dolby Digital 5.1 ch.] under (Settings) > (Sound Settings) > [Audio Output Settings] > [Digital Output (Optical)].
BD/DVD audio output format (HDMI)
Select the audio output format to use when playing a BD or DVD with audio recorded in Dolby Digital or DTS format. This setting is used when an audio output device is connected to the system via an HDMI cable.
Bitstream To output sound by prioritizing the original digital signal.
Linear PCM To output sound by converting the digital signal to linear PCM format.
Tip
If [Bitstream] is selected, some portions of the audio content may not be output.
BD audio output format (optical)
Select the audio output format to use when playing a BD with audio recorded in Dolby Digital or DTS format. This setting is used when an audio output device is connected to the system via an optical digital cable.
Bitstream To output sound by prioritizing the original digital signal.
Linear PCM To output sound by converting the digital signal to linear PCM format.
Tip
If [Bitstream] is selected, some portions of the audio content may not be output.
So, if you have everything in HDMI at home, it's better to use HDMI. If you're using optical or RCA audio for sound, you won't be able to enjoy Dolby and DTS sound, but you'll need to set it to "PCM" or "Linear PCM" to reproduce all sound. However, you'll lose some purity. Otherwise, you'll need to disable the dynamic range control.
There you go.
Now, without having anything amazing at home, I can enjoy sound better than at the cinema! For the moment, I have a Samsung full HD LCD TV (I'm saying for the moment because it's currently being inspected and I should get a new one, and I might not choose Samsung again. I don't know yet). A Panasonic BDP-BD60 Blu-ray player, a Sony DWG800 home theater amplifier (super good even though it doesn't reproduce HD sounds too well. I should also soon replace it with an AV amplifier with HDMI 1.4 3D ready, probably an Onkyo S806 or above, or maybe a Denon with also 1.4 3D ready) and Sony speakers from the amplifier that I refitted to put in NAD speakers and I isolated it to have a more beautiful sound. (I love quality and I improve it progressively with my possibilities!)
In short, as mentioned above, you don't need high-end equipment or a home theater, a simple car radio with a line input or cassette audio is enough to reproduce audio sound, but you'll need to properly set the sound output of the transmitter and settle for a mediocre sound, just as you can get an AV amplifier to enjoy multichannel sounds and have a much better sound. A few years ago, I couldn't afford to buy a Hi-Fi amplifier let alone a home theater, and I cobbled together a car radio that I bought for 150 francs at Carrefour, and I bought several speakers. I took a transformer + converter for the car radio's power supply, I placed the speakers on wood laid on the floor for the front and fixed them to the wall for the back. For sound, I had a line input jack. I also cobbled together a small circuit board to modify the incoming sound to try to have a multichannel simulation by mainly separating the mids from the highs. And for the DVDs of the time, I had RCA sound going through my Technics cassette radio that I recovered from a flea market that worked super well; it served as a preamp, equalizer (even though I had one on the car radio!) and central voice. I later routed the sound from RCA>jack to the car radio for a sort of spatialization/multichannel, and it turned out pretty well (the neighbors didn’t appreciate!). In short, you don't have to have something amazing, but something that works and is sufficient for us.
For my part, I don't have a PS3 so I can't exactly tell you how to set it up, however, I was able to find the manual online and here it is:
BD/DVD dynamic range control
Enable or disable the dynamic range control of your PS3(TM) system while playing Blu-ray or DVD containing audio recorded in Dolby format (Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, and Dolby TrueHD). This setting can only be used if the linear PCM audio format is selected as the audio output format.
Automatic Automatically enables or disables the feature.
No Disables the dynamic range control.
Yes Enables the dynamic range control.
Tips
* When audio is played via an HDMI cable, you must select [Linear PCM] under (Settings) > (Video Settings) > [BD/DVD Audio Output Format (HDMI)] to use this function.
* When you are playing audio via an optical digital cable, you must proceed as follows to use this function:
* - For BD playback: select [Linear PCM] under (Settings) > (Video Settings) > [BD Audio Output Format (Optical)].
* - For DVD playback: disable [Dolby Digital 5.1 ch.] under (Settings) > (Sound Settings) > [Audio Output Settings] > [Digital Output (Optical)].
BD/DVD audio output format (HDMI)
Select the audio output format to use when playing a BD or DVD with audio recorded in Dolby Digital or DTS format. This setting is used when an audio output device is connected to the system via an HDMI cable.
Bitstream To output sound by prioritizing the original digital signal.
Linear PCM To output sound by converting the digital signal to linear PCM format.
Tip
If [Bitstream] is selected, some portions of the audio content may not be output.
BD audio output format (optical)
Select the audio output format to use when playing a BD with audio recorded in Dolby Digital or DTS format. This setting is used when an audio output device is connected to the system via an optical digital cable.
Bitstream To output sound by prioritizing the original digital signal.
Linear PCM To output sound by converting the digital signal to linear PCM format.
Tip
If [Bitstream] is selected, some portions of the audio content may not be output.
So, if you have everything in HDMI at home, it's better to use HDMI. If you're using optical or RCA audio for sound, you won't be able to enjoy Dolby and DTS sound, but you'll need to set it to "PCM" or "Linear PCM" to reproduce all sound. However, you'll lose some purity. Otherwise, you'll need to disable the dynamic range control.
There you go.
Now, without having anything amazing at home, I can enjoy sound better than at the cinema! For the moment, I have a Samsung full HD LCD TV (I'm saying for the moment because it's currently being inspected and I should get a new one, and I might not choose Samsung again. I don't know yet). A Panasonic BDP-BD60 Blu-ray player, a Sony DWG800 home theater amplifier (super good even though it doesn't reproduce HD sounds too well. I should also soon replace it with an AV amplifier with HDMI 1.4 3D ready, probably an Onkyo S806 or above, or maybe a Denon with also 1.4 3D ready) and Sony speakers from the amplifier that I refitted to put in NAD speakers and I isolated it to have a more beautiful sound. (I love quality and I improve it progressively with my possibilities!)
In short, as mentioned above, you don't need high-end equipment or a home theater, a simple car radio with a line input or cassette audio is enough to reproduce audio sound, but you'll need to properly set the sound output of the transmitter and settle for a mediocre sound, just as you can get an AV amplifier to enjoy multichannel sounds and have a much better sound. A few years ago, I couldn't afford to buy a Hi-Fi amplifier let alone a home theater, and I cobbled together a car radio that I bought for 150 francs at Carrefour, and I bought several speakers. I took a transformer + converter for the car radio's power supply, I placed the speakers on wood laid on the floor for the front and fixed them to the wall for the back. For sound, I had a line input jack. I also cobbled together a small circuit board to modify the incoming sound to try to have a multichannel simulation by mainly separating the mids from the highs. And for the DVDs of the time, I had RCA sound going through my Technics cassette radio that I recovered from a flea market that worked super well; it served as a preamp, equalizer (even though I had one on the car radio!) and central voice. I later routed the sound from RCA>jack to the car radio for a sort of spatialization/multichannel, and it turned out pretty well (the neighbors didn’t appreciate!). In short, you don't have to have something amazing, but something that works and is sufficient for us.
the DTS is of better quality
code on 20 bits compared to 16 for the DD,
4 times less compressed, it takes up more space but the playback is better
code on 20 bits compared to 16 for the DD,
4 times less compressed, it takes up more space but the playback is better
Hello everyone!
So, DTS is a copy of LC Concept which is French. The purpose of DTS (formerly LC Concept) was to separate the audio track from the video track in cinema. Only a Time Code is present on the film (between the image and the optical tracks). This time code allows the synchronization of sound and image. Indeed, the first film to use DTS was Jurassic Park. As a projectionist, I still remember DTS. I had to ingest the CD(s) into the DTS player; you could store a good dozen soundtracks in this player. But well, DTS and Dolby Digital are the same ^^ (just copies, only the process is different)
Dolby D = 5.1 Dolby D EX = 6.1
DTS = 5.1 DTS ES = 6.1
In terms of listening quality, it's strictly the same. DTS being super compressed on the CD was equivalent to a bit of dust on the optical tracks of Dolby D. However, when SRD (Dolby Digital) drops on the cinema sound processor, it looks really bad ^^
All this to say that DTS is indeed dead with the arrival of D-Cinema, uncompressed sound ^^ 16 possible channels, it's a dream ^^
So, DTS is a copy of LC Concept which is French. The purpose of DTS (formerly LC Concept) was to separate the audio track from the video track in cinema. Only a Time Code is present on the film (between the image and the optical tracks). This time code allows the synchronization of sound and image. Indeed, the first film to use DTS was Jurassic Park. As a projectionist, I still remember DTS. I had to ingest the CD(s) into the DTS player; you could store a good dozen soundtracks in this player. But well, DTS and Dolby Digital are the same ^^ (just copies, only the process is different)
Dolby D = 5.1 Dolby D EX = 6.1
DTS = 5.1 DTS ES = 6.1
In terms of listening quality, it's strictly the same. DTS being super compressed on the CD was equivalent to a bit of dust on the optical tracks of Dolby D. However, when SRD (Dolby Digital) drops on the cinema sound processor, it looks really bad ^^
All this to say that DTS is indeed dead with the arrival of D-Cinema, uncompressed sound ^^ 16 possible channels, it's a dream ^^
What is DTS in French? It's the box developed by Spielberg. The reason there are more French DVDs using DTS audio than US DVDs is money. Two audio tracks are expensive, so Americans prefer a less compressed and cheaper Dolby Digital track. Yoan is three times right:
5.1 means 5 channels + 1 subwoofer
Dolby offers 5.1, 7.2, etc...
DTS also offers various types of similar configurations.
Note: you still need a good ear and a good setup to notice a difference.
Note 2: some films encoded in Dolby offer better sound quality than their DTS equivalents despite everything... see Asterix & Obelix: Mission Cleopatra, for instance, where the DTS is very muffled...
5.1 means 5 channels + 1 subwoofer
Dolby offers 5.1, 7.2, etc...
DTS also offers various types of similar configurations.
Note: you still need a good ear and a good setup to notice a difference.
Note 2: some films encoded in Dolby offer better sound quality than their DTS equivalents despite everything... see Asterix & Obelix: Mission Cleopatra, for instance, where the DTS is very muffled...
Well...
taking the example of a DVD (I suppose that's what Mr. wants to know).
The normal 5.1 is a sound ambiance base on the 6 speakers, but compressed.
The DTS is a non-compressed 5.1 format (so for DTS decoders, a better quality sound)
That's all!
taking the example of a DVD (I suppose that's what Mr. wants to know).
The normal 5.1 is a sound ambiance base on the 6 speakers, but compressed.
The DTS is a non-compressed 5.1 format (so for DTS decoders, a better quality sound)
That's all!
loll
you French people sure have a lot of nerve
dts or dolby... nothing to do with France and the United States of America lol
there are numbers and letters...
the numbers:
1= mono
2.0= stereo
2.1= 2 channels plus sub
5.1= 5 channels plus sub
7.1= 7 channels plus sub
...
the letters:
DTS = uncompressed sound (''L''PCM)
DOLBY = compressed sound (AC3)
Dolby is to DTS what MP3 is to wav
you French people sure have a lot of nerve
dts or dolby... nothing to do with France and the United States of America lol
there are numbers and letters...
the numbers:
1= mono
2.0= stereo
2.1= 2 channels plus sub
5.1= 5 channels plus sub
7.1= 7 channels plus sub
...
the letters:
DTS = uncompressed sound (''L''PCM)
DOLBY = compressed sound (AC3)
Dolby is to DTS what MP3 is to wav
Finally a good answer
I have a 7.1 amplifier, the only disc I managed to listen to in DTS-EX is "Die Another Day"
(easy to check, all the LEDs on my Yamaha amplifier light up)
And believe me, with 7 speakers plus a subwoofer, it really shakes
I'm looking for movies in that format, so if you have any titles to suggest, please let me know.
I have a 7.1 amplifier, the only disc I managed to listen to in DTS-EX is "Die Another Day"
(easy to check, all the LEDs on my Yamaha amplifier light up)
And believe me, with 7 speakers plus a subwoofer, it really shakes
I'm looking for movies in that format, so if you have any titles to suggest, please let me know.
Everyone agrees... what Dolby, what DTS, what MLP, what SCD... all the ways to encode [and decode] sound will be different... even sound engineers don't agree.... Optical or digital, what the heck... since the speakers are all analog in the end; by the way, some have used the same mold for 50 years... DTS and MLP are better in stereo because 'less compressed' but through multichannels Dolby doubles in terms of resolution. We remain in the realm of high definition sound with these formats and I doubt that people notice differences, maybe those with perfect pitch; let's not forget that analog is always better... Professional recording studios exceed the resolutions offered in the consumer market... but retrograde in sales... too bad [protection of the Masters]. Movie theaters have the best possible surround arrangements but they invest heavily in the pro quality of Dolby or DTS... and HDMI... Ray DOLBY created this company and Stephane Spielberg participated in the creation of DTS.inc.... I still haven't seen a 7.1 home theater on the market [custom...?]...
Denon offers the 10.1:
http://www.magma.fr/?module=boutique&act=details&pid=1012132
and Yamaha the 7.1+4.0:
http://www.magma.fr/?module=boutique&act=details&pid=1011699
http://www.magma.fr/?module=boutique&act=details&pid=1012132
and Yamaha the 7.1+4.0:
http://www.magma.fr/?module=boutique&act=details&pid=1011699
hum anything...;
The difference is not at all that lol
DTS is a French standard
and only French...
(take an American DVD, there won't be DTS)
it is indeed a 5.1 sound with slightly different compression... but that's not the real change..
The real change is: That the sound is completely reworked
improved and pushed to its maximum clarity...
The difference is not at all that lol
DTS is a French standard
and only French...
(take an American DVD, there won't be DTS)
it is indeed a 5.1 sound with slightly different compression... but that's not the real change..
The real change is: That the sound is completely reworked
improved and pushed to its maximum clarity...
Evening
Sorry, but that wasn't the question.
The question is "Difference between 5.1 and DTS?"
And the answer is that they are two different things.
On the encoding side, it is true that DTS sound is significantly less compressed. As a result, it is naturally purer, less "processed", more authentic.
I disagree with saying it is pushed, reworked, or improved; it is simply more natural and therefore, by contrast, better.
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Sorry, but that wasn't the question.
The question is "Difference between 5.1 and DTS?"
And the answer is that they are two different things.
On the encoding side, it is true that DTS sound is significantly less compressed. As a result, it is naturally purer, less "processed", more authentic.
I disagree with saying it is pushed, reworked, or improved; it is simply more natural and therefore, by contrast, better.
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I disagree with you regarding the absence of DTS sound on American DVDs, and here's why: DTS (Digital Theatre Systems) is a sound processing mode originally created for use in movie theaters.
It was developed by Universal Studios in California, in response to the advancements made by Lucas Film (the creator of the THX quality standard), and was introduced in theaters for the first time in 1993 with the release of the film Jurassic Park.
This six-channel sound encoding system allows for a three-dimensional sound effect at home (5 speakers + 1 for the bass). It is a direct competitor to the Dolby Digital format.
It was developed by Universal Studios in California, in response to the advancements made by Lucas Film (the creator of the THX quality standard), and was introduced in theaters for the first time in 1993 with the release of the film Jurassic Park.
This six-channel sound encoding system allows for a three-dimensional sound effect at home (5 speakers + 1 for the bass). It is a direct competitor to the Dolby Digital format.
sampling frequency of pcm: 44.1khz 16 bits---dts: 96khz 24 bits---dolby digital: 48 khz 24 bits---dvd audio 192khz 24 bits. dts is better than dd 5.1 and pcm (digital sound format 2.0 or stereo and not analog) and then for audiophiles dvd audio in stereo (192khz 24 bits) and sacd. @+
Little clarification, the connection between the DVD and the amp must be absolutely digital. To do this, an optical cable is not strictly necessary. Some players come equipped with a TAD output (orange RCA) that transmits the digital signal to the amp via a standard RCA.
This output is also available on Creative sound cards (orange 1/8 connector) which you can also connect to an amp with a decoder.
Comparing DTS with Dolby is like comparing MPC with MP3, they have nothing in common in my opinion. Two completely different compression algorithms.
This output is also available on Creative sound cards (orange 1/8 connector) which you can also connect to an amp with a decoder.
Comparing DTS with Dolby is like comparing MPC with MP3, they have nothing in common in my opinion. Two completely different compression algorithms.
it is also worth knowing that DTS uses the digital optical output of your player, which is why the quality is better!
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may the force be with us!
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No agreement either. I have a multi-standard player, just like the amplifier, they work without optical connection, and I listen to them in DTS (better sound) whenever the disc allows it.
I prefer to reserve DTS for movies or musical performances, and Dolby for action films packed with effects.
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No agreement either. I have a multi-standard player, just like the amplifier, they work without optical connection, and I listen to them in DTS (better sound) whenever the disc allows it.
I prefer to reserve DTS for movies or musical performances, and Dolby for action films packed with effects.
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HELLO
my name is olivier
I am equipped with a HOME CINEMA so I will tell you this.
DOLBY DIGITAL is compressed and DTS is less compressed, so it has more punch.
my name is olivier
I am equipped with a HOME CINEMA so I will tell you this.
DOLBY DIGITAL is compressed and DTS is less compressed, so it has more punch.
The problem is that the bandwidth of DTS is much higher than that of Dolby... So the video encoding will be a bit stronger.
Better sound, worse image: DVDs are limited!
Better sound, worse image: DVDs are limited!
stop fighting over which sound format is the best ...... here is my point of view:
DD says AC3 exists in several formats:
stereo
or in 5.1
it is 16 bits 48kHz
DTS is also available in stereo and 5.1 with a bitrate of about 640 kbps
DTS HD is also compressed but it is 24 bit and 96kHz with a bitrate of around 1500 kbps
but stop fighting, the best quality is found in Dolby MLP and True HD
these are 2 codecs used in DVD-Audio (for MLP) and True HD on Blu-ray it seems
MLP in 5.1 has a bitrate exceeding 8 Mbps
DD says AC3 exists in several formats:
stereo
or in 5.1
it is 16 bits 48kHz
DTS is also available in stereo and 5.1 with a bitrate of about 640 kbps
DTS HD is also compressed but it is 24 bit and 96kHz with a bitrate of around 1500 kbps
but stop fighting, the best quality is found in Dolby MLP and True HD
these are 2 codecs used in DVD-Audio (for MLP) and True HD on Blu-ray it seems
MLP in 5.1 has a bitrate exceeding 8 Mbps
It is not easy to navigate through all these standards.
I just bought an HD Blu-Ray DVD player so that I can watch the Blu-Ray DVD GOMIRRA by Matteo Garrone in 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio with MPEG4/AVC encoding. Unfortunately, when I put the DVD in the player, it indicates that it cannot be played. Do you think I have the possibility to view this DVD with my new player, please?