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I heard that the quality of HDMI cables doesn't matter much, that the HDMI cable either works well or it doesn't, and that it's useless to spend a lot of money on cables when you can get them for much cheaper for the same result.Configuration: Windows XP Internet Explorer 6.0
I heard that the quality of HDMI cables doesn't matter much, that the HDMI cable either works well or it doesn't, and that it's useless to spend a lot of money on cables when you can get them for much cheaper for the same result.Configuration: Windows XP Internet Explorer 6.0
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I am a young electrician and I've been closely interested in this quality issue. I buy large quantities of cables to install at my clients' homes (long-length cables).
It should be noted that since the HDMI signal is digital, there is no degradation in image quality regardless of the cable used.
Many tests have been conducted by various American blogs.
The testing protocol was as follows:
A PS3 console displayed a high-resolution JPEG image and was connected via an HDMI cable to a computer's graphics card.
For each HDMI cable, a screenshot was taken to precisely compare the output images (checking for any artifacts).
A hash of the image was created to compare them (allowing for comparison of the accuracy of a digital file).
Whether it was the 300€ Monster cable or the basic 15€ cable, the conclusion was clear: there was no difference in quality; the hashes were the same.
However, my personal experience leads me to avoid very low-end cables, as they physically break after a few months of use (connector ripped off) or simply do not work (especially with long-length cables). So be cautious with your supplier, especially if, like me, it's for clients.
The two largest French HDMI cable sites are http://www.cable-hdmi.eu and abix.com. Abix is slightly better on prices, while cable-hdmi.eu excels in quality. Both sites are reliable for your orders; you can trust them completely.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me.
It should be noted that since the HDMI signal is digital, there is no degradation in image quality regardless of the cable used.
Many tests have been conducted by various American blogs.
The testing protocol was as follows:
A PS3 console displayed a high-resolution JPEG image and was connected via an HDMI cable to a computer's graphics card.
For each HDMI cable, a screenshot was taken to precisely compare the output images (checking for any artifacts).
A hash of the image was created to compare them (allowing for comparison of the accuracy of a digital file).
Whether it was the 300€ Monster cable or the basic 15€ cable, the conclusion was clear: there was no difference in quality; the hashes were the same.
However, my personal experience leads me to avoid very low-end cables, as they physically break after a few months of use (connector ripped off) or simply do not work (especially with long-length cables). So be cautious with your supplier, especially if, like me, it's for clients.
The two largest French HDMI cable sites are http://www.cable-hdmi.eu and abix.com. Abix is slightly better on prices, while cable-hdmi.eu excels in quality. Both sites are reliable for your orders; you can trust them completely.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me.
The HDMI cable signal is digital, so there is no degradation in signal quality as was the case with analog. To put it simply, either it works, or it doesn't.
The website lesnumeriques has published an excellent article on the subject and tested the cables. The conclusions are clear: there is no difference between so-called high-end cables and the cheap ones.
So stop getting tricked into buying overpriced cables! Especially if your cable is short.
The most important thing is to have a properly shielded cable to prevent interference from electromagnetic radiation; a quadruple shield is highly recommended.
Then make sure that the cable is of decent quality so that it doesn't break after a few months of use.
In any case, you can easily find good and cheap cables on the internet!
The website lesnumeriques has published an excellent article on the subject and tested the cables. The conclusions are clear: there is no difference between so-called high-end cables and the cheap ones.
So stop getting tricked into buying overpriced cables! Especially if your cable is short.
The most important thing is to have a properly shielded cable to prevent interference from electromagnetic radiation; a quadruple shield is highly recommended.
Then make sure that the cable is of decent quality so that it doesn't break after a few months of use.
In any case, you can easily find good and cheap cables on the internet!
Hello everyone,
First of all, I quite agree with what has been said, but I would like to clarify one point. When you say that the signal is digital and therefore it either works or it doesn't... that is not correct. To be clear, whether the signal is digital or analog, the signal-to-noise ratio must be correct! It may very well happen that the digital information passes with a non-negligible error rate that will vary depending on the quality of the cable!
However, in most digital transmission systems, the receiver corrects errors (if they are not too numerous), so most of the time we will have a nice image or "nothing at all." Other issues related to cable quality can also be a factor, such as crosstalk, reflections in the lines...(but to simplify, we can assimilate this to noise).
So in summary, to see the quality of the cable, you need a measuring device. It is very possible that we have completely different results depending on the devices used; I am referring here to the signal transmitter and the receiver (which is usually a TV).
Lastly, using a microwave to check if the cable has good shielding is not at all relevant; indeed, the frequency ranges of a microwave and a transmission over an HDMI cable are not the same... without going into details, it is very likely that even if the microwaves "pass" through the shielding, they will be filtered by the first filter encountered. Furthermore, we cannot determine if the microwave is of good quality or not, and therefore if it radiates a lot or not.
I hope my input will help clarify things for you! Feel free to leave a comment!
First of all, I quite agree with what has been said, but I would like to clarify one point. When you say that the signal is digital and therefore it either works or it doesn't... that is not correct. To be clear, whether the signal is digital or analog, the signal-to-noise ratio must be correct! It may very well happen that the digital information passes with a non-negligible error rate that will vary depending on the quality of the cable!
However, in most digital transmission systems, the receiver corrects errors (if they are not too numerous), so most of the time we will have a nice image or "nothing at all." Other issues related to cable quality can also be a factor, such as crosstalk, reflections in the lines...(but to simplify, we can assimilate this to noise).
So in summary, to see the quality of the cable, you need a measuring device. It is very possible that we have completely different results depending on the devices used; I am referring here to the signal transmitter and the receiver (which is usually a TV).
Lastly, using a microwave to check if the cable has good shielding is not at all relevant; indeed, the frequency ranges of a microwave and a transmission over an HDMI cable are not the same... without going into details, it is very likely that even if the microwaves "pass" through the shielding, they will be filtered by the first filter encountered. Furthermore, we cannot determine if the microwave is of good quality or not, and therefore if it radiates a lot or not.
I hope my input will help clarify things for you! Feel free to leave a comment!
Since the HDMI signal is digital, there is no image alteration from interference as there was before with analog (on a SCART connector)... So the signal either passes or it doesn't, and if it passes for both, then the output is 100% the same for a cable costing 5 or 100€! Therefore, it is always best to use a shielded cable and the shortest one possible. And if it's less than 2m, then buy the cheapest one without looking, it will work in 1080p.
In short, buying an HDMI cable for 100€ and bragging about having better image quality is simply pointless because it is physically impossible... We are no longer in the era of SCART.
Make sure to check the article mentioned earlier from Les Numériques.
For games, most are in 720p even if the Xbox 360 or PS3 is in 1080p. The same goes for TV (or 1080i)... So for now, 1080p doesn't really have any interest...
In short, buying an HDMI cable for 100€ and bragging about having better image quality is simply pointless because it is physically impossible... We are no longer in the era of SCART.
Make sure to check the article mentioned earlier from Les Numériques.
For games, most are in 720p even if the Xbox 360 or PS3 is in 1080p. The same goes for TV (or 1080i)... So for now, 1080p doesn't really have any interest...
Cable offered by FNAC following the purchase of a full HD TV:
Fiber installation, connection to the decoder, picture in ridiculous mode; even my old antenna on the roof did better!
Fiddling around before thinking about the cable: 1 hour.
Changing the cable, excellent viewing of fiber programs.
==> HDMI cables are all the same, tsss, you have to be cheap but not stupid.
P.S.: I insist on the cable OFFERED by the FNAC salesman in addition to the discount on the TV (he eventually ended up giving me a great cable ^^).
Fiber installation, connection to the decoder, picture in ridiculous mode; even my old antenna on the roof did better!
Fiddling around before thinking about the cable: 1 hour.
Changing the cable, excellent viewing of fiber programs.
==> HDMI cables are all the same, tsss, you have to be cheap but not stupid.
P.S.: I insist on the cable OFFERED by the FNAC salesman in addition to the discount on the TV (he eventually ended up giving me a great cable ^^).
The popular site CNET recommends purchasing the cheapest HDMI cable from online retailers. Therefore, there’s no point in rushing to your big box retailer to buy a $50 HDMI cable (and sometimes even more), mistakenly believing that you will enjoy a much better picture quality than if you had bought a more affordable cable. The cable market is also very profitable for stores. For example, during sales,
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Well, I think we need to set things straight; some nonsense has been said.
1/ Let me start by explaining standards 1.3 and 1.4.
It should be noted that the HDMI connector has connections that were left unused by the older standards (they allowed for "headroom").
Indeed, in 1.4, there's internet connectivity and audio return in addition.
That's why a 1.3 cable that doesn't work in 1.4 is simply a cable that isn't fully wired (savings made by the manufacturer).
It's also worth noting that the bandwidth is identical between these two standards! Because even though the resolution has doubled, the refresh rate has been halved.
2/ Saying that all HDMI cables are equal is completely FALSE.
When it comes to video and over short distances, it's almost impossible to see differences. Especially if it's to connect a TV decoder, a 10€ cable is enough (given the mediocre quality even in pseudo HD...)
However, when you start upgrading your equipment, that's another story: you need a cable that respects impedance with perfect phase integrity to avoid jitter. I know, I’m speaking Chinese; basically, the cable needs to be well insulated (quadruple shielding or triple + ferrite...), the internal connections should be of good diameter (AWG24 which is 0.51mm/connection), of good quality (OFC copper or silver-plated) and if possible, the connectors should be soldered with silver. I can assure you that with such a cable, you'll see a slight improvement in picture quality (especially on a projector) but most importantly in sound!
So, you might ask me, what should one buy if they start getting good equipment? The answer is difficult since manufacturers communicate little or not at all. Who knows if the soldering is silver and the diameter of the cables...
For example, cablehdmi.net claims to be a site that sells quality. In their Pro1.4 range, the wiring is only in AWG28, which is thinner than specified in the standard. Don't be fooled by an aesthetic sheath or an 18/24 carat gold treatment; that matters less than the quality of the internal cables!
1/ Let me start by explaining standards 1.3 and 1.4.
It should be noted that the HDMI connector has connections that were left unused by the older standards (they allowed for "headroom").
Indeed, in 1.4, there's internet connectivity and audio return in addition.
That's why a 1.3 cable that doesn't work in 1.4 is simply a cable that isn't fully wired (savings made by the manufacturer).
It's also worth noting that the bandwidth is identical between these two standards! Because even though the resolution has doubled, the refresh rate has been halved.
2/ Saying that all HDMI cables are equal is completely FALSE.
When it comes to video and over short distances, it's almost impossible to see differences. Especially if it's to connect a TV decoder, a 10€ cable is enough (given the mediocre quality even in pseudo HD...)
However, when you start upgrading your equipment, that's another story: you need a cable that respects impedance with perfect phase integrity to avoid jitter. I know, I’m speaking Chinese; basically, the cable needs to be well insulated (quadruple shielding or triple + ferrite...), the internal connections should be of good diameter (AWG24 which is 0.51mm/connection), of good quality (OFC copper or silver-plated) and if possible, the connectors should be soldered with silver. I can assure you that with such a cable, you'll see a slight improvement in picture quality (especially on a projector) but most importantly in sound!
So, you might ask me, what should one buy if they start getting good equipment? The answer is difficult since manufacturers communicate little or not at all. Who knows if the soldering is silver and the diameter of the cables...
For example, cablehdmi.net claims to be a site that sells quality. In their Pro1.4 range, the wiring is only in AWG28, which is thinner than specified in the standard. Don't be fooled by an aesthetic sheath or an 18/24 carat gold treatment; that matters less than the quality of the internal cables!
I also recommend reading this: http://www.lesnumeriques.com/blind-tests-avec-deux-jurys-experts-et-lecteurs-p770_6175_93.html
My HDMI cable at €1.40 including shipping allows me to play in full HD with my PC on the TV. Believe me, the quality is the same as with a DVI... And don't tell me that DVI is worse; DVI offers the same quality as HDMI without audio...
1.3b at €1.40...
My HDMI cable at €1.40 including shipping allows me to play in full HD with my PC on the TV. Believe me, the quality is the same as with a DVI... And don't tell me that DVI is worse; DVI offers the same quality as HDMI without audio...
1.3b at €1.40...
Hello
I have an HDMI cable connecting my HD TV and my home cinema player.
In TV mode: all is well
In DVD playback mode: I have variable colored screens (blue-red-green, etc.)
that appear (1 to 2 seconds) then a black screen (4 or 5 seconds - loss of signal) before my image returns. These interruptions occur randomly, sometimes 4 or 5 times during the movie playback, sometimes even more.
Is it a problem with the HDMI cable? I changed it once, and the issue persists but less frequently. Any thoughts?
Thank you in advance!
I have an HDMI cable connecting my HD TV and my home cinema player.
In TV mode: all is well
In DVD playback mode: I have variable colored screens (blue-red-green, etc.)
that appear (1 to 2 seconds) then a black screen (4 or 5 seconds - loss of signal) before my image returns. These interruptions occur randomly, sometimes 4 or 5 times during the movie playback, sometimes even more.
Is it a problem with the HDMI cable? I changed it once, and the issue persists but less frequently. Any thoughts?
Thank you in advance!
HDMI cables are all the same in terms of their operating principle.
Price differences lie in the level of manufacturing (Monster cables, for example, are expensive but come with a lifetime warranty), finishing (metallic tips, gold plating...), shielding, and version (1.3, 1.4, 1.5...). (and also the seller's margin)
The difference will be noticeable especially starting from 10-15m, where you will have to invest in quality if you don't want the signal to be too noisy and degraded.
Otherwise, for short distances of 1 to 5 m, they are all comparable (of course excluding the dubious quality cables made by small Chinese manufacturers in a basement...). The rest is a matter of taste and finishing, ranging from plain black cables to gold-plated tips, fabric coverings, and metal connectors...
You should also avoid HDMI cables (so-called Official) made for X-BOX or PS3. They are the same but you'll pay at least an extra €5 to €10 just for the logo on them, and often the finishing is poorer than similar priced cables from less recognized brands.
As for a price reference:
you can find "shielded gold-plated HDMI cables 3 meters 1.3B" with good finishing for about €15
it's not necessary to pay more than that for impeccable image quality!
PS: gold plating is for improving electrical conductivity. The monitor's port should also be gold-plated; otherwise, it doesn't make much difference (but it still looks nicer ;-)).
Price differences lie in the level of manufacturing (Monster cables, for example, are expensive but come with a lifetime warranty), finishing (metallic tips, gold plating...), shielding, and version (1.3, 1.4, 1.5...). (and also the seller's margin)
The difference will be noticeable especially starting from 10-15m, where you will have to invest in quality if you don't want the signal to be too noisy and degraded.
Otherwise, for short distances of 1 to 5 m, they are all comparable (of course excluding the dubious quality cables made by small Chinese manufacturers in a basement...). The rest is a matter of taste and finishing, ranging from plain black cables to gold-plated tips, fabric coverings, and metal connectors...
You should also avoid HDMI cables (so-called Official) made for X-BOX or PS3. They are the same but you'll pay at least an extra €5 to €10 just for the logo on them, and often the finishing is poorer than similar priced cables from less recognized brands.
As for a price reference:
you can find "shielded gold-plated HDMI cables 3 meters 1.3B" with good finishing for about €15
it's not necessary to pay more than that for impeccable image quality!
PS: gold plating is for improving electrical conductivity. The monitor's port should also be gold-plated; otherwise, it doesn't make much difference (but it still looks nicer ;-)).
Hello, I was inquiring here to see if I was the only one who didn't see a difference between expensive and cheap cables, and I see that everyone agrees on this.
Just a small thing, Mystic974 indicates that gold is there for its conductivity, which I think is a mistake; it is present for its corrosion resistance. Copper is a better conductor but can oxidize.
Just a small thing, Mystic974 indicates that gold is there for its conductivity, which I think is a mistake; it is present for its corrosion resistance. Copper is a better conductor but can oxidize.
At the same time, I would add that I prefer to buy 30 no-name cables for €1.40 each rather than 1 Monster cable for €50... What's the point? Lifetime guarantee? In 6 months, the standard will have changed, and for 3D, you'll need a new, expensive cable. The Monster cable resells poorly: who wants an old standard except at a low price?
It's a lie, let me explain, HD is 720 pixels vertically and full HD is 1080 pixels vertically, you have an HD screen, so how do you expect to get an image with 1080 pixels vertically on a screen that only has 720 pixels vertically? It's like if I had one candy and wanted two candies with just one lol.
I'm in the business, and an HDMI cable has categories just like a network cable. Buy an HDMI cable for 2, 3, or 5 euros and you'll see if it works. An HDMI cable has a bandwidth like a Cat5, Cat5e, Cat6, or Cat7 network cable. It's true that an HDMI cable will work with a 50 euro DVD player. Now take a PS3 or a Blu-ray player equivalent to the PS3, and you'll see a difference between a 5 euro cable and a 100 euro cable, like image saturation or a half-second freeze. But when you play, you don't want the image to stutter.
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So stop being cheap and stop buying a cable you see at the checkout for 9.99 euros.
Buy real gear.
Alright, later!
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So stop being cheap and stop buying a cable you see at the checkout for 9.99 euros.
Buy real gear.
Alright, later!
sked, you who are "in the business"... a little info for you: to be called HDMI, a cable must be able to transmit a certain amount of data according to a standard.
If your image stutters with a 1.3, 1.4 standard cable, it will stutter with another cable the same way.
The gold connectors, for example (the thing everyone brings up!) are solely there to ensure sufficient signal quality and shielding over time, but in no way to speed up the transmitted data rate. Those who believe that a thin layer of gold will speed up the signal, go back to your first-year physics classes.
However, indeed, for lengths beyond 3 meters, it's better to get a good quality cable. Even if, in theory, the HDMI standard is resistant up to 5 meters (hdmi.org, the official HDMI standard site, I'm not making this up).
Because of its principle of operation, that is to say digital, between a slightly more expensive cable and another... there is no difference !!!!
HDMI was largely praised for this, and also for its interoperability...
Afterwards, given the possible bandwidth in an HDMI cable, it is more than enough to carry 1080 (so "full HD")... And those who say otherwise better do a little research before spouting nonsense!
https://www.hdmi.org/resource/index
https://www.hdmi.org/resource/index -> read the last 3 lines of the page ;-)
If your image stutters with a 1.3, 1.4 standard cable, it will stutter with another cable the same way.
The gold connectors, for example (the thing everyone brings up!) are solely there to ensure sufficient signal quality and shielding over time, but in no way to speed up the transmitted data rate. Those who believe that a thin layer of gold will speed up the signal, go back to your first-year physics classes.
However, indeed, for lengths beyond 3 meters, it's better to get a good quality cable. Even if, in theory, the HDMI standard is resistant up to 5 meters (hdmi.org, the official HDMI standard site, I'm not making this up).
Because of its principle of operation, that is to say digital, between a slightly more expensive cable and another... there is no difference !!!!
HDMI was largely praised for this, and also for its interoperability...
Afterwards, given the possible bandwidth in an HDMI cable, it is more than enough to carry 1080 (so "full HD")... And those who say otherwise better do a little research before spouting nonsense!
https://www.hdmi.org/resource/index
https://www.hdmi.org/resource/index -> read the last 3 lines of the page ;-)
I'm a bit late, but I wanted to tell you this:
Unlike RCA, Peritel, and YUV, HDMI is evolving. The only good thing about the days of standard definition systems was the shielding or gold plating, which allowed for better longevity over time. Otherwise, in terms of quality, whether you get a 50-cent cable or a 100-euro cable, it hardly makes a difference, except over time, and even then.
HDMI is currently evolving, unless you come across a deal and therefore buy a recent quality cable at a low price, know that basically the lower-priced ones are "old" HDMI, often 1.2 or 1.3a.
From the beginning, I used, as I did with RCA, Peritel... I bought a budget HDMI cable a year ago; it was fine, I was satisfied. After having a problem that I thought stemmed from the cable itself, I replaced all my HDMI cables with high-end ones (without necessarily spending a fortune, far from it) and I immediately noticed the difference. Before that, I had a simple 1.3a cable, limited to 3 Gbps, which still transmitted full HD and everything, but I could see the limitations with films where the bitrate could exceed that. Since then, I have a 1.3b gold-plated cable at 13 Gbps and since then, the quality is perfect, and I am ready for beyond the current full HD, the same for sound. The ideal would be a 1.3c gold-plated cable at 20 Gbps or waiting for the 1.4 that should be coming out soon.
When buying, you need to look carefully at the letter after 1.3; if "a," it's okay, if "b," it's very good, if "c," it's almost the best, but it's not because you have a 1.3c that you will have the best, it all depends on the maximum bitrate that can flow. To achieve excellent full HD image/sound quality with an exceptional Blu-ray having one of the highest transfer rates, you would need to have above 10 Gbps, preferably starting from 1.3b.
Since I found my high-end and inexpensive cables (even cheaper than some outdated lower-end ones!), I don’t change anymore. Shielded, flexible, gold-plated cable, 1.3b and a speed of up to 13 Gbps that I buy at Fnac. The 2m cable costs me 14€, so the price is more than reasonable. Sold without a box, just with a barcode tag, in a small corner of the shelf (at least where I am!)
Unlike RCA, Peritel, and YUV, HDMI is evolving. The only good thing about the days of standard definition systems was the shielding or gold plating, which allowed for better longevity over time. Otherwise, in terms of quality, whether you get a 50-cent cable or a 100-euro cable, it hardly makes a difference, except over time, and even then.
HDMI is currently evolving, unless you come across a deal and therefore buy a recent quality cable at a low price, know that basically the lower-priced ones are "old" HDMI, often 1.2 or 1.3a.
From the beginning, I used, as I did with RCA, Peritel... I bought a budget HDMI cable a year ago; it was fine, I was satisfied. After having a problem that I thought stemmed from the cable itself, I replaced all my HDMI cables with high-end ones (without necessarily spending a fortune, far from it) and I immediately noticed the difference. Before that, I had a simple 1.3a cable, limited to 3 Gbps, which still transmitted full HD and everything, but I could see the limitations with films where the bitrate could exceed that. Since then, I have a 1.3b gold-plated cable at 13 Gbps and since then, the quality is perfect, and I am ready for beyond the current full HD, the same for sound. The ideal would be a 1.3c gold-plated cable at 20 Gbps or waiting for the 1.4 that should be coming out soon.
When buying, you need to look carefully at the letter after 1.3; if "a," it's okay, if "b," it's very good, if "c," it's almost the best, but it's not because you have a 1.3c that you will have the best, it all depends on the maximum bitrate that can flow. To achieve excellent full HD image/sound quality with an exceptional Blu-ray having one of the highest transfer rates, you would need to have above 10 Gbps, preferably starting from 1.3b.
Since I found my high-end and inexpensive cables (even cheaper than some outdated lower-end ones!), I don’t change anymore. Shielded, flexible, gold-plated cable, 1.3b and a speed of up to 13 Gbps that I buy at Fnac. The 2m cable costs me 14€, so the price is more than reasonable. Sold without a box, just with a barcode tag, in a small corner of the shelf (at least where I am!)
Here it is!
I have a little problem; I'm trying to connect my PS3 to my PC monitor because it has better resolution and it's very large, but I'm looking for the cable that allows me to do so and I don't even know if it's possible on this monitor, it’s an LG LCD model: Flatron L222WS. Thank you for responding if you find something or can provide me with further assistance.
!! Best regards.
I have a little problem; I'm trying to connect my PS3 to my PC monitor because it has better resolution and it's very large, but I'm looking for the cable that allows me to do so and I don't even know if it's possible on this monitor, it’s an LG LCD model: Flatron L222WS. Thank you for responding if you find something or can provide me with further assistance.
!! Best regards.
If there's an HDMI port on your PC, then you'll be able to connect your PlayStation 3 to your computer screen ;)
oh yes, there is a difference between cables; it's not necessarily in the image quality, but in the image response! In what case can you notice it? For example, in football games like FIFA 11, indeed, the more your cable is of type "a" or even "b," the more there will be a certain latency in your players' reactions. This reaction is minimal, on the order of a few milliseconds, but in a football game, it simply ruins the action! So yes, this difference exists, and I have been able to notice it!
This topic is very interesting!
I want to summarize:
-All HDMI cables work equally well at purchase, but it is in the long term that the difference is felt.
I want to summarize:
-All HDMI cables work equally well at purchase, but it is in the long term that the difference is felt.
Hello
Well, I work with a 9 euro HDMI cable from Lidl and on my 107cm Samsung plasma, I have SFR HD demo and TNT and the image is perfect on TF1, FR2, M6, Arte, NRJ12, National Geographic HD, the image is sublime, so I confirm, no need for gold-plated cables for short cables, it's clear that the seller must be laughing, at first these cables were 100 euros and I bought it during that time for 9 euros, 10 times cheaper and I easily rebutted the seller's arguments because for short lengths, the quality is the same. Today they are about 40 euros, what a drop in the price of gold???????????? Or is gold not selling well????????
Well, I work with a 9 euro HDMI cable from Lidl and on my 107cm Samsung plasma, I have SFR HD demo and TNT and the image is perfect on TF1, FR2, M6, Arte, NRJ12, National Geographic HD, the image is sublime, so I confirm, no need for gold-plated cables for short cables, it's clear that the seller must be laughing, at first these cables were 100 euros and I bought it during that time for 9 euros, 10 times cheaper and I easily rebutted the seller's arguments because for short lengths, the quality is the same. Today they are about 40 euros, what a drop in the price of gold???????????? Or is gold not selling well????????
Good evening everyone,
I agree with most of the forum members that for a distance of two meters
max, a budget cable will perform well even if it's not gold-plated.!!!!!
Indeed, to put an end to an old myth, gold is not a better conductor than any other metal
or alloy; it has only and exclusively one advantage, which is that your plug won't corrode over time.
So, when sellers highlight the conductivity and the so-called qualities of their gold-plated plugs,
give them this information, it will make them a little less foolish......!!!!!!
I agree with most of the forum members that for a distance of two meters
max, a budget cable will perform well even if it's not gold-plated.!!!!!
Indeed, to put an end to an old myth, gold is not a better conductor than any other metal
or alloy; it has only and exclusively one advantage, which is that your plug won't corrode over time.
So, when sellers highlight the conductivity and the so-called qualities of their gold-plated plugs,
give them this information, it will make them a little less foolish......!!!!!!
Stop talking nonsense and do your research first. Gold has only one advantage: it doesn't oxidize. Yes, it's the only metal that doesn't oxidize in air or in water, but it is one of the three best electrical conductors known. Much better than aluminum, nickel, platinum, or tin, which are still used to make some electrical cables. So it's clear that it has its place in electronics, especially when dealing with very thin wire sections or traces on printed circuit boards.
And just so you know, Kevin53, copper and silver have better electrical conductivity than gold.
But okay, it's the gold plating that will give you a prettier look.
And just so you know, Kevin53, copper and silver have better electrical conductivity than gold.
But okay, it's the gold plating that will give you a prettier look.
Hello everyone!
Everyone says you don't necessarily have to spend a lot on an HDMI cable.
But I want to watch 3D movies from my Blu-ray player.
A sales person told me I needed a minimum of 13.8 Gbit (brand Mr. Cable and €80, which I find a bit expensive).
What do you recommend?
Thanks for your answers!
Julien
Everyone says you don't necessarily have to spend a lot on an HDMI cable.
But I want to watch 3D movies from my Blu-ray player.
A sales person told me I needed a minimum of 13.8 Gbit (brand Mr. Cable and €80, which I find a bit expensive).
What do you recommend?
Thanks for your answers!
Julien
Hello everyone
I am a hi-fi sales specialist and I was very skeptical about the effectiveness of cables with astronomical prices.
I had the opportunity to conduct a customer test: two identical Sony Blu-ray player models on two identical LED TVs with two different cables: 1 ordinary shielded and 1 Real Cable.
To the naked eye, one can perceive a completely different grain which makes the image more or less smooth or more or less detailed.
For my part, until this week I was using a standard HDMI cable bought at Boulanger for 19.99 euros connecting my PS3 to my Panasonic plasma.
It didn’t last a year, so I was very disappointed.
I purchased a Monster Cable Ultimate High Speed 17.8Gbps: the image improvement is truly exceptional.
My reasoning is as follows: The fiber is better woven inside the sheathing and the connector is sturdier.
Moreover, digital information is transmitted with much less loss, which affects image quality.
Conclusion: Do not choose a cable based on its price but rather on its coating and its capacity for rapid information transmission.
I am a hi-fi sales specialist and I was very skeptical about the effectiveness of cables with astronomical prices.
I had the opportunity to conduct a customer test: two identical Sony Blu-ray player models on two identical LED TVs with two different cables: 1 ordinary shielded and 1 Real Cable.
To the naked eye, one can perceive a completely different grain which makes the image more or less smooth or more or less detailed.
For my part, until this week I was using a standard HDMI cable bought at Boulanger for 19.99 euros connecting my PS3 to my Panasonic plasma.
It didn’t last a year, so I was very disappointed.
I purchased a Monster Cable Ultimate High Speed 17.8Gbps: the image improvement is truly exceptional.
My reasoning is as follows: The fiber is better woven inside the sheathing and the connector is sturdier.
Moreover, digital information is transmitted with much less loss, which affects image quality.
Conclusion: Do not choose a cable based on its price but rather on its coating and its capacity for rapid information transmission.
Everything is false.
I don't see what people don't understand about the concept of DIGITAL.
If part of the information doesn't get through or is distorted, the image won't display.
It's all or nothing. (but unless you cut the cable, it's "all")
Unlike old analog signals, which deteriorate the longer and poorer quality the wire is.
The same goes for cables that are given "maximum data rates." Sellers take people for fools. The data rate depends on the source (Blu-ray player) and not the cable itself. The HDMI cable is just a simple metal conductive cable connecting the 19 HDMI pins of the source to the 19 HDMI pins of the TV.
Conclusion: Choose the cheapest one, as long as it doesn't break in your hands, you will get exactly the same image quality as with a €300 cable. Long live digital.
I don't see what people don't understand about the concept of DIGITAL.
If part of the information doesn't get through or is distorted, the image won't display.
It's all or nothing. (but unless you cut the cable, it's "all")
Unlike old analog signals, which deteriorate the longer and poorer quality the wire is.
The same goes for cables that are given "maximum data rates." Sellers take people for fools. The data rate depends on the source (Blu-ray player) and not the cable itself. The HDMI cable is just a simple metal conductive cable connecting the 19 HDMI pins of the source to the 19 HDMI pins of the TV.
Conclusion: Choose the cheapest one, as long as it doesn't break in your hands, you will get exactly the same image quality as with a €300 cable. Long live digital.
I can only tell you that I had major signal loss issues between the Canalsat decoder and the Samsung ultra high definition television. Hours and euros wasted with the customer service of Canal and Samsung. By replacing the standard HDMI cable (2 tested cables) with a high-end Monster Black Platinum cable at 79 euros, the problem was radically solved. It's silly to claim that all cables are equal.
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Suivant
Uh... I'm fine with Abix, I don't know what volumes they sell, but cable-hdmi.eu is a sole trader (which means legally limited revenue) who is undoubtedly advertising themselves as "the first" (the first in what?) after only a few months of existence. We can bet that their slight competitive advantage on low-end product prices will disappear when they have to pay the same taxes as others.
Otherwise, I agree that there are no notable differences in short cables upon unboxing, but the difference becomes apparent when they break over time, and for long cables, they need to be of good quality (otherwise, sensitivity to strong interference).
Signed, a competitor of cable-hdmi.eu that you can find by searching for the first result on "hdmi cable" in Google (that assertion is totally verifiable), and who stands out in terms of service quality (you can check the customer reviews which are, I swear to you, sincere, even if you only have my word).