Abnormal slowness with Tor

Euh yes... But no.
Three relays, I would find that amusing

https://img-19.ccm2.net/kJdGT8mhle9-I0IW4u1ef-fj8m8=/63a219b3b2f049b1bb4b42d114955d12/ccm-ugc/tor.png

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If the image does not display, it gives:
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Hello,

Normally it's always slower with Tor:

"Tor circuits lengthen connections

Tor provides anonymity by building circuits with three relays. Instead of having a direct connection to the destination server, a connection is made between each relay in the circuit, which takes more time. "

https://tails.boum.org/doc/anonymous_internet/why_tor_is_slow/index.fr.html

Plus a very low speed test your speed here:
https://www.sfr.fr/mire-test-debit/

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So how can I boost this a bit?

I found something quite nice but it's on Windows and I can't find the relevant file on Mac
"The visualization of the Tor network allows us to not only see the fastest relays but also their geographical location. Let's choose some fast relays from the left panel and note their little names (relay column). It's this name that will be useful in our configuration. For example, let's select SuperTor and TorGenial.

In the \Data\Tor directory of the application, let's open the torrc file and add the lines

StrictEntryNodes 1
EntryNodes SuperTor
ExitNodes TorGenial
We have indicated to Tor that we force the entry relay to SuperTor and the exit relay to TorGenial. The number of relays is therefore more limited and the connection is normally faster.

Note
By reducing the number of nodes, security is less important but one must choose between performance and security, until networks are fast enough and software is sufficiently improved. However, while security decreases, it remains acceptable for most uses. Enough to fool most current systems.

Moreover, nothing prevents choosing a multitude of relays. But only choosing fast relays to maintain good performance."

That's obvious, although...
Not so long ago, the IP address was dynamic and assigned each time you connected...

But that's ancient history and it doesn't solve my problem.

So I just have to cry...
At home, I have the choice between Orange and nothing. The old copper wires were changed two years ago...
As for my internet speed, I remind you it was advertised at 8Mbps, here's what it actually is

https://img-19.ccm2.net/-tnSpqfF1-uzwW_NRGmbvxDlzvs=/72002400c76c43beb952341a2cd10374/ccm-ugc/Test.png

It's normal.

However, it depends on many factors:

• The location where the site is hosted
• The location of the relays
• A "bottleneck" on the network ...

If you find the circuit too slow (more than 30 sec per page, generally a page should load in max. 20 sec with an average circuit), you can always request a new circuit.
However, be aware that 20 sec is considered fast for establishing a connection on Tor, whether your connection is fiber or not.

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Ok, the keyboard works, perfect.

As I wrote above, it takes up to two minutes exactly (that is 120 seconds) to load a page

And I'm sorry to disagree with you, I find it completely unacceptable that in 2017 we still have such low speeds

To try to cry less, is there a way to better configure faster and fewer relays on my little Mac?

I have nothing to hide :-D
I made an online purchase last Friday, I use Ad Block+, and yet I'm incredibly bombarded by ads from the site where I made my purchase (and I have no other purchases to make) while I'm just browsing.
It may seem silly, but for me, that’s enough to want to be invisible or at least very discreet.

I find it disturbing to be constantly monitored when I have nothing to hide, don't you?

The conversation is derailing here...
Let's get back to the technical aspect, I'll make another topic to attract Mac users ;-)

Hello,

At home I have a choice between Orange and nothing. The old copper wires were changed two years ago... 
As for my internet speed, I remind you it is advertised at 8Mb, this is what it gives 

https://img-19.ccm2.net/-tnSpqfF1-uzwW_NRGmbvxDlzvs=/72002400c76c43beb952341a2cd10374/ccm-ugc/Test.png

You indicate that your advertised speed from Orange should be 8 Mb, which is about 9 times faster than what your screenshot shows, indicating 386 KB/s.
So it would be necessary to know if this speed test was done using a standard browser like Safari.

- If this test was done with Safari, you need to question Orange as to why such a low speed compared to what is expected and paid for as a subscription.

- If the test was done with Tor, it may be that Orange throttles the use of such a browser... I don’t know, it might also be a question to ask.

Otherwise, you need to ensure that your version of Tor is up to date, and read the usage notice on the publisher's page to see if a plugin might be causing issues or something of that sort:
https://www.torproject.org/download/#warning

I reinstalled OS X 10.12 recently, and currently Tor is not installed on my machine, so I can’t test it. But I had tested it before my complete reinstallation of OS X 10.12, and I hadn’t noticed any real slowdown compared to Safari. Not really eager to reinstall it right now...

@+

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Always provide your complete system configuration - exact computer model, exact OS version.

Hello,
The test I posted was done with Safari, but the result is the same if I use Firefox. However, you are mistaken since the displayed speed is 3.16Mo/s and not 386 Ko/s... When I mention it to Orange, they claim that it's my computer that is the cause, but they also admit that with the connection point being 3 kilometers away from my home, it doesn't help the situation.

As for Tor, it’s version 7.0.2, I believe it’s the latest and no plugins are installed.

I tried to check my speed by doing a download with Tor and it was between 1.5 and 2.5Ko/s

When I talk about slowness, it's not an exaggeration...

Hello,

Whatever browser you use, your connection will be slow, that's how it is. Look at the CCM link, it says this:

" Less
Using Tor slows down browsing. "

Source:
https://www.commentcamarche.net/telecharger/securite/22083-tor-browser/#moins

"Tor circuits lengthen connections

Tor provides anonymity by building circuits with three relays. Instead of having a direct connection to the target server, a connection is made between each relay in the circuit, which takes more time.

Moreover, Tor tries to build circuits with relays in different countries, which further travels the connection and makes it slower. "
Source:
https://tails.boum.org/doc/anonymous_internet/why_tor_is_slow/index.fr.html

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Hello,

observe correctly your own image,

it clearly shows 386 Ko/second and 316 Mbits/second,

don’t confuse megabits and megabytes


1 Mo = 1024 Ko, so 1 Mo = 2.65 x 386 Ko and therefore 8 Mo = ... I’ll let you calculate

On the other hand, you say,

I have a very slow internet speed of 8Mo (in theory)

However, usually Orange, like other ISPs, indicates their speeds in Mbits/second, not in Mo/second... it would be good to check your Orange contract

Always provide your system configuration completely - exact model of the computer, exact OS version.

Well yes, that's the principle of Tor...
I still believe it should be possible to find fast relays (okay, you have to find them) and limit their number (for example to 3)? That's at least what the excerpt from the article I posted says, but I don't know where the equivalent file is on Mac. That being said, it is normal for Tor to be slower than a browser connecting normally.

Our messages crossed paths,

read my message just above.

Then, I installed Tor to check it out, and on the first launch, instead of clicking on "Connect", I chose "Configure" to see...

Here’s the continuation:











So, it’s possible that Orange is throttling Tor. Not to mention your unclear subscription of 8MB or 8 Mbits...
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Hello Francis,
I just tested this method, it's not faster, but it's less slow...
I also just retested the speed, this time I'm between 7 and 8 where I was at 3.16
Finally, between these two operations I went on Google street view (with Safari) and my street view was frozen.

I conclude that either my connection is "random", or the test is crap.

Hello phillippe001,

Not all testing sites are created equal. Among those that seem the most reliable to me, there are

https://testdebit.info

https://beta.speedtest.net/

try to compare...

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Always provide your system configuration in full - exact model of the computer, exact OS version.

Tested just now with both... Here are the screenshots

https://img-19.ccm2.net/TyPokrzaXXM3xWZFsZZ5JIcn7_k=/4f644b7fea99437ebcd5d0e54f3e87f6/ccm-ugc/Capture_decran_2017-07-28_a_15.21.48.png

Orange claims that you can't get better technically, which is why I have this subscription... And the throttling, it's a hush-hush situation... No way to find out

As for the connection in Metz, I don't quite understand since it's 150 km from my place.