PC won’t boot after case change

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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member -  
djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member -
Hello,
I will explain my problem,
I had a functional setup, then I bought a new case, and while changing my components into my new case, I believe I reconnected everything properly. However, when I turn on my PC, the fans, hard drive, and LEDs light up for about 2 seconds and then shut off immediately.
I have no idea what to do now; I think I have done the necessary tests with 1 RAM stick and then both, I completely removed my graphics card, disconnected the hard drive, and checked the BIOS battery which was dead. I found one that is half full... I hope that’s not the problem... What I don’t understand is why it was able to start before if the BIOS battery was dead...
So right now I have no idea what the issue is, and I need my computer quickly...
Thank you in advance for your response!!
Feel free to ask me your questions
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
Good evening,
Regarding your change of case, an idea immediately comes to mind:
Have you CHECKED THE NEW CASE to make sure you didn't leave a fastener of that type (see link) UNDER THE MOTHERBOARD... I mean where it's not intended. If that's the case, you are certainly causing a short circuit on the MB.
https://www.clubic.com/forum/t/vis-de-fixation-carte-mere/244614

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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
Good evening Sergio39,
Thank you for your quick response,
The case has already been used so the black spacers for my case were already in place, I just moved them to fit my motherboard format which is an ATX if I'm not mistaken, so I left them there... should I leave them between my motherboard and my case, reassure me..?
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
You must leave only the spacers that correspond to the mounting holes of your motherboard. Imagine if you leave one that is not aligned with a hole... this spacer could very well touch the circuitry of the motherboard. I'm saying this for your own good. Remove the motherboard and CHECK that all the spacers are properly aligned with a hole... after that, you'll know for sure that there are no errors on that side and we can try other avenues.
By the way, have you properly reconnected the power cables = 24-pin connector + a 4-pin or 6-pin depending on the motherboard model?

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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
Yes, for sure, the spacers are placed in the right spot; that has been confirmed!
Yes, I fully understand the problem!
Yes, the large 26-pin + 4-pin connector from my power supply is properly connected; I even tested the 26 pins without connecting the 4 pins.
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
Check that by moving the motherboard, you haven't shifted the CPU cooler. Make sure the four fasteners are properly in place and that the cooler is firmly seated on the processor.
If the processor is SLIGHTLY off-balance, it will lead to an IMMEDIATE overheating of the processor, which will protect itself by shutting down the system.
Otherwise, any PC will start without the BIOS battery; it’s only there to save the time, date, year, and any changes you’ve made in the BIOS. If the battery is dead, you’ll boot using the default BIOS settings.
Also, check that your system hard drive is properly reconnected to SATA port No. 1.

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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
Did you properly connect the power/reset buttons and LED????.... only leave the POWER button and try again

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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
I just checked and the fan on my processor seems to have come off, the four fasteners have been removed if I'm not mistaken!
I have connected the SATA port to SATA6G_1!
But nothing works, it still doesn't start. For the connection of my buttons, I only connected the Power SW; I had tried with all the connections properly plugged in and now I'm leaving just the Power SW...
I'm lost...
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
When I read this: I just checked and the fan of my processor seems to have lost the four fasteners if I'm not mistaken!
You mean the heatsink was no longer making contact with the processor ... if that's the case, you may have "fried" the CPU.

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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
No, it's stuck with the thermal paste! It held, but the fittings are a bit weird; we have to turn them while pushing, so I never know if the heatsink is properly secured.
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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
I pray that my processor doesn't get fried!
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
I only see this as a solution because we have gone through EVERYTHING and believe me (I’m not young anymore) I have assembled many machines and we have gone around.. yes, if the radiator has come off the processor, that could be the cause of the failure to start and in that case...!
If... there’s still the power supply... did you take the one you had or is it a new PSU?

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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
Ok, go check online to see how to properly reinstall the CPU cooler mounts.
Otherwise, it doesn't take too long... you take apart the power supply, motherboard... lay everything on the table and make your connections like that on the table (not a metal table, right?)
To start it, use the tip of a small knife that you place on the pins (where the power button connects)... if it starts, there's a grounding issue... or something else with your new case.
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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
So I just disassembled the CPU fan, I removed all the thermal paste, but I don't understand why it started an hour ago and not anymore...
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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
It seems that I am trying several things, for example, I placed my motherboard on the linoleum floor + my power supply does the same thing, it starts for a second and a half then shuts off. I quickly remove the CPU cooler to touch the CPU, and it is not hot at all. Does this indicate something?
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
In this case, you need to find another power supply.. and never remove the CPU cooler to "see" if the processor is hot.. first of all, if it is really hot you risk burning yourself and you also risk frying the processor which won't have had time to dissipate the heat.
Another thing that worries me too, when you say: I even tested 26 pins without plugging in the 4 pins.
First of all, it is not 26 pins but 24.. let's move on.. what worries me is that you tried by only connecting the 24-pin connector.. by doing this test, it prevents the processor from being powered correctly and if the requested current is too high, it will pass through tracks (circuits) that are not meant for it and that is not good for your motherboard.
In any case, do not put anything back in the case .. unplug your power supply and go to a repair shop so they can test it.. it only takes 2 minutes with this type of device
https://www.materiel.net/alimentation-pc/l445/
If the power supply works properly, everything suggests to me that you made a.. mistake (to be polite) somewhere.

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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
When I say to find another power supply, first test yours before buying a new one... it might be... (and I hope) that it's your power supply that's failed.
In fact, a power supply costs less than a motherboard + a processor ;-)

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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
Yes, regarding the pins story, I must have gotten confused.
I went to a computer store to bring my motherboard, so they will keep it until tomorrow afternoon when I will pick it up, and then they will give me the verdict. I'll keep you updated on the progress...
To come back to the story of the pins, I was powering my motherboard with the large connector that has a total of 24 pins + another 8-pin connector next to my processor.
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
Well, there's nothing left to do but wait for the verdict, hoping that the problem is with your power supply; otherwise, you'll have to buy a new tower... like this one for example
https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00211903.html
Come on, have a good evening and keep me posted

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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
Hello Sergio39,
So my motherboard was tested in the shop and they told me it started up right away!
However, as soon as I put it back in my case it doesn't start, so he told me to bring my new case and he will put it all together for me and let me know the problem, I'll keep you posted.
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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
The setup you showed me is beyond my means.
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622 > djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member
 
For the config, it was just a wink.. I’d also like to have that kind of beast of a machine :-)).
Don't forget to ask the repairman why you couldn't do it, it will help you for next time.
See you!
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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
Hi Sergio39,
I successfully retrieved my PC in its new case, I asked it what it did, and it said that it didn’t try to understand, it just took everything apart and put it back together, and it worked on the first try, so it doesn't have much idea about the problem...
In any case, this new case works perfectly with all my components, but aside from a few connectors from the case (fan) that the technician doesn't know where to plug in... they are all powered, but we don’t know what they are for.
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Sergio39 Posted messages 5315 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   2 622
 
Hello,
in my opinion, if nothing has been changed, you must have got tangled up somewhere with the buttons/leds... it just can't be otherwise.
Anyway, the main thing is that your new case is operational.
As for the connectors, if they are "Molex" they can correspond to front lighting, and if they are for fans, later you can buy a "fan controller".
Best regards... and thanks for the feedback... don't forget to mark your post as "resolved".
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djkalvin Posted messages 176 Status Member 20
 
Alright, thanks, I'll see!
Have a good evening
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