Connect my Mac Pro G5 to the internet.
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Hello everyone! And thank you in advance for your answers!
So here it is, I got from my company a Mac Pro G5 that doesn't have a built-in Airport card. I'm looking to connect it to the internet via two options: Airport card (1) and Ethernet cable (2) to install.
First of all: the specifications of the Mac, written on the label inside:
Serial Number: CK442HHCXS8J
160-120V / 200-240V
6.5A/3.5A 50-60Hz
Ethernet: ID 000D9343820A
G5 2.0/DP/512MB400/160/SD/FX5200/56K
I am on Mac OS 10.5.
1/ Connecting to the Internet via Wi-Fi : from what I understood here and there on the internet, I need to install an Airport card inside. But I imagine that the model depends on my motherboard.
=> I first went to an Apple Store: they are no longer interested in these parts, they only sell iPads, iBooks, etc... and advised me to go to a computer hardware store.
=> Then I went to Boulanger: the salespeople know absolutely nothing about Airport cards, I ended up with an Airport Express Base Station to connect a printer or speakers to the network...
=> So I'm turning to you to avoid making a mistake by buying just anything.
2/ Connecting to the Internet via an Ethernet cable :
I plugged my Ethernet cable into my Bouygues BBOX, I connected it to the only Ethernet port on my Mac, I opened the "settings > Network" window, and there I get a message saying that the Ethernet cable is not recognized or not connected, and the Ethernet option appears in red...
=> Given that I bought a new Ethernet cable to check that the old one wasn't worn out, and that it didn't resolve anything, I'm calling for help.
=> I tried with all the Ethernet ports of my BBox, with no change at all.
So here it is, I got from my company a Mac Pro G5 that doesn't have a built-in Airport card. I'm looking to connect it to the internet via two options: Airport card (1) and Ethernet cable (2) to install.
First of all: the specifications of the Mac, written on the label inside:
Serial Number: CK442HHCXS8J
160-120V / 200-240V
6.5A/3.5A 50-60Hz
Ethernet: ID 000D9343820A
G5 2.0/DP/512MB400/160/SD/FX5200/56K
I am on Mac OS 10.5.
1/ Connecting to the Internet via Wi-Fi : from what I understood here and there on the internet, I need to install an Airport card inside. But I imagine that the model depends on my motherboard.
=> I first went to an Apple Store: they are no longer interested in these parts, they only sell iPads, iBooks, etc... and advised me to go to a computer hardware store.
=> Then I went to Boulanger: the salespeople know absolutely nothing about Airport cards, I ended up with an Airport Express Base Station to connect a printer or speakers to the network...
=> So I'm turning to you to avoid making a mistake by buying just anything.
2/ Connecting to the Internet via an Ethernet cable :
I plugged my Ethernet cable into my Bouygues BBOX, I connected it to the only Ethernet port on my Mac, I opened the "settings > Network" window, and there I get a message saying that the Ethernet cable is not recognized or not connected, and the Ethernet option appears in red...
=> Given that I bought a new Ethernet cable to check that the old one wasn't worn out, and that it didn't resolve anything, I'm calling for help.
=> I tried with all the Ethernet ports of my BBox, with no change at all.
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Hello Francis.
Since I can't insert images like you do, I can only write the message that appears with the assistant:
"It seems that the computer is neither connected to a DSL or cable modem, nor to an Ethernet network.
Check that an Ethernet cable is properly connected to the Ethernet port of the computer or to a DSL or cable modem on one side, and to an Ethernet network or any other device, such as a hub, router, or switch on the other side. Also check that the devices are powered on, etc..."
Of course, it goes without saying that I have checked that my Bbox has the Wi-Fi light on (green), that I am receiving internet via Wi-Fi on my laptops, etc...)
On the Bbox, I have four ports where the Ethernet cable can be plugged in. I have tried them all. I can't attach a photo to this message to show the back of the Bbox.
See you, Cédric. -
Hello Cédric,
I think the box is OK.
I found this page: https://www.assistance.bouyguestelecom.fr/internet-bbox/raccordement-equipements-bbox/raccordement-ordinateur-bbox
That shows a picture of how to connect the box to a PC. (It's the same for a Mac)
However, since this is a Powermac retrieved from a company, I have a doubt. On iMacs or Mac laptops, the network card is integrated into the motherboard. In "Pro" Macs, like PowerMacs or Mac Pros, this network card may be a daughter card attached to the motherboard and it could be missing.
I wanted to use the serial number you provided to find out the exact model, but it didn't lead to anything; there may be an error on that side.
We should go to the Apple menu / About This Mac / More Info... and then check in the Hardware or Network section what information is provided about ethernet. Specifically, if a MAC address is indicated for the ethernet card.
Under your version of Mac OS, it's probably different but quite similar to what I have:
Also, check what the Network Utility application indicates, which should be found in Applications / Utilities .. in the ethernet section:
https://support.apple.com/fr-fr/guide/mac-help/welcome/mac
EDIT: If you can't find Network Utility in Applications / Utilities, look in
Hard Drive / System / Library / CoreServices / Applications...
Have a good day, or good night.. :).
Francis -
Hello,
The information provided is not really enough to determine the model of the Mac.
However, at first glance, I would say that it is not a Mac Pro, but a PowerMac.
All Mac Pros have Intel processors, not G5s.
So let's assume it is a PowerMac G5 dual-processor 2 GHz (if I have interpreted the information correctly).
In this case, for Airport (WIFI), you will need this card
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3024
A part that can be found on eBay or elsewhere. Examples:
https://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.XCarte+WIFI+APPLE+AirPort+Extreme+Card&_nkw=Carte+WIFI+APPLE+AirPort+Extreme+Card&_sacat=0&_from=R40
https://www.ebay.com/n/all-categories
In no case should you take a card of any type other than "Extreme". Risk of hardware damage.
Installing it is easy. It's explained in the manual
https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/0/MA81/en_US/AirPort_Card.pdf
(if the model matches, but it should not differ too much from year to year).
As for the ethernet connection, I don't see it. If everything is plugged in correctly, it should work. You might not be on the right socket of the box?
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Have a good day, or good night..:).
Francis -
Thank you, Francis, for your quick response.
You're right (I’m using the informal 'tu' if you don’t mind), it must be a dual-processor Power Mac.
For the airport card: your links are exactly what I needed. I’ll check that out.
For the Ethernet cable: I tried all the Ethernet-compatible ports on the BBOX. I was hoping I made a mistake somewhere, or that it was normal to see the message "cable not connected" and that it would sort itself out after configuration... -
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Thank you, Francis.
_So, for the network application/utilities:
In the "Info" tab, I find this interface information:
physical address: 00:0d:93:ff:fe:43:82:0a
IP address: Unknown
link speed: 0 Mb/s
link status: Inactive
Manufacturer: Apple
Model: fw+
_For the Apple menu > About this Mac > More Info > Network > Configuration:
Automatic: Active configuration: Yes
Services:
Internal Modem:
Type: PPP
IPv4: Configuration method: PPP
IPv6: Configuration method: Automatic
Proxies:
Passive FTP mode: Yes
PPP:
(....a ton of info that I don't think is useful to write down)
Ethernet:
Type: Ethernet
BSD device name: n0
Physical address (MAC): 00:I won't disclose it but there is one
IPv4: Configuration method: DHCP
IPv6: Configuration method: Automatic
Appletalk:
Configuration method: Node
Proxies: Exceptions list: *.local, 169.254/16
Passive FTP mode: yes
Well, this doesn't really mean much to me, but it gives a layman like me the impression that something is installed.... I hope not, because your theory that the PowerMac is not equipped with a network card is promising: we could have remedied that. -
Hi Cédric,
The device name is probably en0 and not n0, but that's just a detail.
Everything else seems perfectly fine and in any case,
if a hardware address (MAC address) is indicated, it means that the network card exists and is properly in place. Additionally, all the parameters are correct.
These cards almost never fail.
What I would do in this case is open the device and check that the Ethernet port is properly connected to the card. It might be a simple issue like that causing the problem.
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Have a good day, or good night..:).
Francis -
Hello Francis.
Sorry for not being able to respond sooner, I have been quite caught up with other urgent matters these past few days...
So, regarding the airport card: I received it and installed it. The inside of my dual-processor G5 is slightly different from the diagram on the link you gave me, but I think I managed to find the location, the antenna, and I hope I turned the card the right way... it's up to me to configure and check all that...
As for the Ethernet port to check: I took the opportunity to look inside. Unfortunately, the internal Ethernet socket/port is located behind the "G5" processor casings, and after a few unsuccessful attempts where I disassembled/removed what I could, I gave up trying to reach the socket. I will look online for more detailed disassembly diagrams, unless you have any tips to share...
In any case, thanks again for your help,
Best regards, Cédric.
