Connect my Mac Pro G5 to the internet.

Fennec2123 Posted messages 4 Status Member -  
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Hello everyone! And thank you in advance for your answers!

So here it is, I got from my company a Mac Pro G5 that doesn't have a built-in Airport card. I'm looking to connect it to the internet via two options: Airport card (1) and Ethernet cable (2) to install.

First of all: the specifications of the Mac, written on the label inside:
Serial Number: CK442HHCXS8J
160-120V / 200-240V
6.5A/3.5A 50-60Hz
Ethernet: ID 000D9343820A
G5 2.0/DP/512MB400/160/SD/FX5200/56K


I am on Mac OS 10.5.

1/ Connecting to the Internet via Wi-Fi : from what I understood here and there on the internet, I need to install an Airport card inside. But I imagine that the model depends on my motherboard.
=> I first went to an Apple Store: they are no longer interested in these parts, they only sell iPads, iBooks, etc... and advised me to go to a computer hardware store.
=> Then I went to Boulanger: the salespeople know absolutely nothing about Airport cards, I ended up with an Airport Express Base Station to connect a printer or speakers to the network...
=> So I'm turning to you to avoid making a mistake by buying just anything.

2/ Connecting to the Internet via an Ethernet cable :
I plugged my Ethernet cable into my Bouygues BBOX, I connected it to the only Ethernet port on my Mac, I opened the "settings > Network" window, and there I get a message saying that the Ethernet cable is not recognized or not connected, and the Ethernet option appears in red...
=> Given that I bought a new Ethernet cable to check that the old one wasn't worn out, and that it didn't resolve anything, I'm calling for help.
=> I tried with all the Ethernet ports of my BBox, with no change at all.

8 answers

  1. Fennec2123 Posted messages 4 Status Member 1
     
    Hello Francis.
    Since I can't insert images like you do, I can only write the message that appears with the assistant:

    "It seems that the computer is neither connected to a DSL or cable modem, nor to an Ethernet network.
    Check that an Ethernet cable is properly connected to the Ethernet port of the computer or to a DSL or cable modem on one side, and to an Ethernet network or any other device, such as a hub, router, or switch on the other side. Also check that the devices are powered on, etc..."


    Of course, it goes without saying that I have checked that my Bbox has the Wi-Fi light on (green), that I am receiving internet via Wi-Fi on my laptops, etc...)

    On the Bbox, I have four ports where the Ethernet cable can be plugged in. I have tried them all. I can't attach a photo to this message to show the back of the Bbox.
    See you, Cédric.
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  2. Anonymous user
     
    Hello Cédric,

    I think the box is OK.

    I found this page: https://www.assistance.bouyguestelecom.fr/internet-bbox/raccordement-equipements-bbox/raccordement-ordinateur-bbox

    That shows a picture of how to connect the box to a PC. (It's the same for a Mac)

    However, since this is a Powermac retrieved from a company, I have a doubt. On iMacs or Mac laptops, the network card is integrated into the motherboard. In "Pro" Macs, like PowerMacs or Mac Pros, this network card may be a daughter card attached to the motherboard and it could be missing.

    I wanted to use the serial number you provided to find out the exact model, but it didn't lead to anything; there may be an error on that side.

    We should go to the Apple menu / About This Mac / More Info... and then check in the Hardware or Network section what information is provided about ethernet. Specifically, if a MAC address is indicated for the ethernet card.

    Under your version of Mac OS, it's probably different but quite similar to what I have:



    Also, check what the Network Utility application indicates, which should be found in Applications / Utilities .. in the ethernet section:

    https://support.apple.com/fr-fr/guide/mac-help/welcome/mac

    EDIT: If you can't find Network Utility in Applications / Utilities, look in
    Hard Drive / System / Library / CoreServices / Applications...

    Have a good day, or good night.. :).
    Francis
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  3. Anonymous user
     
    Hello,

    The information provided is not really enough to determine the model of the Mac.

    However, at first glance, I would say that it is not a Mac Pro, but a PowerMac.

    All Mac Pros have Intel processors, not G5s.

    So let's assume it is a PowerMac G5 dual-processor 2 GHz (if I have interpreted the information correctly).

    In this case, for Airport (WIFI), you will need this card
    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3024

    A part that can be found on eBay or elsewhere. Examples:
    https://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.XCarte+WIFI+APPLE+AirPort+Extreme+Card&_nkw=Carte+WIFI+APPLE+AirPort+Extreme+Card&_sacat=0&_from=R40

    https://www.ebay.com/n/all-categories

    In no case should you take a card of any type other than "Extreme". Risk of hardware damage.

    Installing it is easy. It's explained in the manual
    https://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/0/MA81/en_US/AirPort_Card.pdf
    (if the model matches, but it should not differ too much from year to year).

    As for the ethernet connection, I don't see it. If everything is plugged in correctly, it should work. You might not be on the right socket of the box?

    --
    Have a good day, or good night..:).
    Francis
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  4. Fennec2123 Posted messages 4 Status Member 1
     
    Thank you, Francis, for your quick response.
    You're right (I’m using the informal 'tu' if you don’t mind), it must be a dual-processor Power Mac.

    For the airport card: your links are exactly what I needed. I’ll check that out.

    For the Ethernet cable: I tried all the Ethernet-compatible ports on the BBOX. I was hoping I made a mistake somewhere, or that it was normal to see the message "cable not connected" and that it would sort itself out after configuration...
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  5. Anonymous user
     
    For the Ethernet cable issue, I don't see. It's rare for a Mac to have a problem with its Ethernet port.

    I suggest going through Network Preferences / Assistant / Diagnostics...



    Maybe that will give a clue...

    --
    Have a good day, or Good Night..:).
    Francis
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  6. Fennec2123 Posted messages 4 Status Member 1
     
    Thank you, Francis.

    _So, for the network application/utilities:
    In the "Info" tab, I find this interface information:
    physical address: 00:0d:93:ff:fe:43:82:0a
    IP address: Unknown
    link speed: 0 Mb/s
    link status: Inactive
    Manufacturer: Apple
    Model: fw+

    _For the Apple menu > About this Mac > More Info > Network > Configuration:
    Automatic: Active configuration: Yes
    Services:
    Internal Modem:
    Type: PPP
    IPv4: Configuration method: PPP
    IPv6: Configuration method: Automatic
    Proxies:
    Passive FTP mode: Yes
    PPP:
    (....a ton of info that I don't think is useful to write down)
    Ethernet:
    Type: Ethernet
    BSD device name: n0
    Physical address (MAC): 00:I won't disclose it but there is one
    IPv4: Configuration method: DHCP
    IPv6: Configuration method: Automatic
    Appletalk:
    Configuration method: Node
    Proxies: Exceptions list: *.local, 169.254/16
    Passive FTP mode: yes

    Well, this doesn't really mean much to me, but it gives a layman like me the impression that something is installed.... I hope not, because your theory that the PowerMac is not equipped with a network card is promising: we could have remedied that.
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  7. Anonymous user
     
    Hi Cédric,

    The device name is probably en0 and not n0, but that's just a detail.

    Everything else seems perfectly fine and in any case,
    if a hardware address (MAC address) is indicated, it means that the network card exists and is properly in place. Additionally, all the parameters are correct.
    These cards almost never fail.
    What I would do in this case is open the device and check that the Ethernet port is properly connected to the card. It might be a simple issue like that causing the problem.

    --
    Have a good day, or good night..:).
    Francis
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  8. fennec2123
     
    Hello Francis.
    Sorry for not being able to respond sooner, I have been quite caught up with other urgent matters these past few days...

    So, regarding the airport card: I received it and installed it. The inside of my dual-processor G5 is slightly different from the diagram on the link you gave me, but I think I managed to find the location, the antenna, and I hope I turned the card the right way... it's up to me to configure and check all that...

    As for the Ethernet port to check: I took the opportunity to look inside. Unfortunately, the internal Ethernet socket/port is located behind the "G5" processor casings, and after a few unsuccessful attempts where I disassembled/removed what I could, I gave up trying to reach the socket. I will look online for more detailed disassembly diagrams, unless you have any tips to share...

    In any case, thanks again for your help,
    Best regards, Cédric.
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