Two Yamahas: But which one to choose?? :S

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 MaX -
Hello,

The worst has happened, my Akai AC 500 Hi-Fi system has just let me down after 13 years of glorious use. Since I can't live without music, I absolutely need to replace it with another one as soon as possible...

I found two used systems:

the Yamaha RX V590RDS for 99 euros and the Yamaha RX V596RDS for 159 euros. From what I know, these are long-standing home theaters... But what interests me is the amplifiers contained in both of these beasts because I have no intention of watching movies with them. Just listening to and composing (with Reason 4) music. If they were designed for home theaters, then the sound quality should be good... right?

I plan to reuse the speakers from the Akai (6 ohms 50w) to connect to the Yamaha and also buy a subwoofer later.

In short, my question is whether the Yamaha RX V590RDS and RX V596RDS are of good quality? If so, which one is better?
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  1. MaX
     
    The specifications can be found on page 59. I think with 6 ohms I won't get all the power, but it will still sound good...

    http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/av/english/re/RX-V596RDS.pdf
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    1. Anonymous user
       
      Oh yes, there's definitely going to be some sound :)
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  2. Anonymous user
     
    Hi

    Yamaha is very well known for its audio equipment

    but also for having a somewhat "metallic" sound, but that's a matter of tastes, or rather ears ;)

    Your speakers are going to struggle with such an amplifier, you shouldn't push it too hard, because it could quickly become unpleasant...

    In any case, for this kind of speakers, any amplifier will do the job, the sound will remain.... mediocre...

    But if you change your speakers down the line, you'll probably be happy with the sound these amplifiers produce

    On another note, if you don't plan to use the home cinema part, why not get an amplifier specifically dedicated to HI-FI?
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  3. MaX
     
    I don't know of any amplifiers specifically dedicated to high-fidelity sound that are of good quality and cost less than 200 euros.
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  4. diogene51 Posted messages 1122 Status Member 304
     
    To have a Yamaha at home with 100 watts per channel, I initially paired it with 200 watts RMS Jamo speakers. The sound was too metallic, with the highs being too prominent. I bought softer speakers, the Elipson, and the sound changed dramatically (softer, more mellow, and I can turn up the volume without it being overwhelming).

    For stereo, the best option is to get an amplifier (at a low price point, the Pioneers are great and will work well with your speakers). Don't be fooled by watts; 2x40 in a stereo amplifier is already a lot, especially when paired with good speakers.
    http://www.conrad.fr/ampli_pioneer_a_109_p_18780_18805_613204?ns_campaign=SEO&ns_mchannel=hurra&ns_source=positionning&ns_linkname=keywords&ns_fee=0
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  5. MaX
     
    Thank you Diogenes, this amp is not bad at all I'm going to add it to my potential list. That said, it lacks an output for a subwoofer. However, I would really like to have one to work on the bass when I compose and also for pleasure.

    The outputs are at 8 ohms while my speaker has an impedance of 6 ohms. Won't it overheat too much?

    What kind of not too expensive and good quality amplifier could give me two speaker outputs (high + mid) and one subwoofer output?
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  6. Anonymous user
     
    Personally, I just bought a receiver (well, it's a home theater)

    ONKYO TX SR307 for €199 new

    It has great sound in HI-FI, and is upgradable in the sense that you have plenty of connections to do whatever you want, Onkyo is also a very good brand, and I can tell you that in terms of sound quality, you'll immediately see what you're dealing with!

    http://www.commentcamarche.net/guide/1220657-onkyo-tx-sr307

    Take a look at the Onkyo website to see the specifications, a little gem for that price... (plus, it’s 6 ohms ;) )

    And you keep it for 10-15 years, and if you put good speakers on it, you will absolutely flatter your ears, I swear! ^^
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  7. MaX
     
    Hey cool, not bad the TX307. I'm starting to feel guilty about what I want and for not too expensive :D.

    No one answered my initial question about Yamaha...
    But I think I'm going to avoid them.

    What are the good deals for good speakers and subwoofers?
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  8. diogene51 Posted messages 1122 Status Member 304
     
    For the subwoofer, you should get one that has speaker inputs so you can connect one.
    Otherwise, ONKYO is really good too (my brother-in-law has one) with big Jamo tower speakers, it sounds great.

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  9. Anonymous user
     
    On the other hand, good speakers are expensive, VERY EXPENSIVE! (I took my time before deciding to keep the speakers from two of my old HIFI systems)

    The only ones I found that were really good and not yet overpriced were around €400 for the pair, which is double what I paid for my amplifier...

    They were KEF IQ30

    There you go, these are really great speakers at an unbeatable price, I can tell you that after a thorough search: at this price, there's nothing comparable...

    You will find speakers for €100, €200, €400, and even €600, but they won't match this pair of speakers (I was able to hear them in a store with listening rooms)

    After that, if you really want good sound, speakers worthy of the name, you should definitely start saving now to buy them in about five years, because good speakers are really expensive...

    If you're not too demanding, you can get Jamo or something like that... but it will always remain average sound...
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  10. MaX
     
    Wow, not great for the HP... I think it can wait.

    I would really like to know what the sheet located between the power supply and the speaker pins of the Pioneer A209 or A109 corresponds to?? No image allows me to read the inscription.

    http://fotoalbum.ee/photos/Sedman/15542895/
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  11. Anonymous user
     
    Currently, I can't follow links outside of CCM...

    I'll check later ;)
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  12. MaX
     
    Actually, I found it. It's a control output (Control Out)... I don't know what it might be used for, but I was hoping it would be a subwoofer output :(.

    If I take a subwoofer with an impedance of 5 ohms (for example: a YST-SW012), can I connect it to a normal speaker output?
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  13. diogene51 Posted messages 1122 Status Member 304
     
    Also, good speakers to pair with a subwoofer that aren't too expensive
    https://www.son-video.com/article/enceintes-compactes/klipsch/synergy-b2-noir

    What matters when choosing speakers is mainly the Sensitivity: 92 dB (2.83 volts at 1 meter) for the speakers in the link (Klipsch_SynergyB2), which are also 75 watts RMS with 300 W peak
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  14. MaX
     
    The reviews on the Eltax are good, although for some, the frequency response (in the bass) does not extend as far as the manufacturer claims... That said, as my room is only 6 square meters, I don't think it would be interesting to choose them ^^.

    I am therefore weighing between a speaker paired with a subwoofer or keeping my old Akai speakers 6 ohms 50W and adding a good sub like the Energy or another sub with speaker input.
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