Hello, With the powerline adapter, I would like to connect two outlets in my house, one is located on an electrical network dating from the 70s, the other is placed in a new part where the electrical network has just been created. Each outlet is therefore connected to a distinct circuit breaker but is powered by the same meter. Would the powerline adapter be suitable? Thank you

cpl with double electrical installation? : CCM

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rabdx

Personally, I have a very recent experience to share.
Following an internet outage (box issue), I connected using the DEVOLO 200 powerline adapters to a box in the neighboring building (at a relative's place). The two buildings have different EDF meters. To my surprise, I was connected instantly. I then connected my powerline adapter to my router, and all the computers I have benefited from my neighbor's internet.
I thought the signal should be restricted to the meter.
Can anyone tell me if this is normal?
Thank you and have a great day.

brupala Posted messages 111942 Registration date Status Membre Last intervention 14 421

Hi,
the adapter attenuates the signal but does not completely block it.
Only the low voltage transformer (if it is not equipped with couplers) will completely block the signal.
Your experience clearly shows the limitations of using powerline adapters in terms of both security and interference: it is certain that in your neighborhood, if about twenty powerline adapters do the same thing, the modems will interfere so much that no one will be able to communicate via powerline adapters.
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And ... Voila Voila Voila!

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le druide Posted messages 40644 Registration date Status Contributeur Last intervention 6 616

from the same EDF meter, do not confuse circuit breaker and meter.

The power supply from the EDF meter is then protected by one or more circuit breakers located on the protection panel for the outlets and lights of the apartment.

In short: The EDF meter - the EDF circuit breaker and then the protection panel for the outlets and lights for the occupant of the apartment.

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the druid without the potion.

timoléon

Thank you very much, all I have left to do is invest in the equipment and suggest to Darty and Fnac to invest in training for their nice employees...

bidouille34 > timoléon

Hello,
I don’t know if this post is still active but I would like to know if you have acquired the powerline adapters and if their setup worked considering your electrical installation.
I also need to do it at my place in a recent house but with a garage converted into an office and with a small dedicated electrical panel for this new room, which is connected to the main panel that manages the rest of the house.
Thank you.

bidouille34 > bidouille34

So here's a little follow-up on my question from yesterday to provide an answer myself that might help others. I bought a Bewan Powerline E200 maxx Duo kit, compatible with power strips and equipped with filters.
My Livebox is in my former garage, which has recently been converted into an office. I have a PC connected to it and another one in a bedroom in the house. The Wi-Fi wasn't working well. I wanted to set up powerline adapters. My electrical network is very new, and the office is on a small panel connected to the main electrical panel, so it's not directly on the main circuit. The main panel is equipped with 2 RCDs and circuit breakers. The additional small panel is also equipped with an RCD.
AND EVERYTHING WORKS PERFECTLY!!!! Contrary to what the salesperson at FNAC told me when I explained my setup.

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le druide Posted messages 40644 Registration date Status Contributeur Last intervention 6 616

Hello,

normally yes, since you are staying on the same installation that is part of the same subscriber (before the EDF meter).

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the druid without the potion.

timoléon

Thank you for this answer and these clarifications...
In stores, two sellers from different brands claim that a powerline network only works from the same circuit breaker
I remain skeptical.

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le druide Posted messages 40644 Registration date Status Contributeur Last intervention 6 616

the power line communication (PLC) also works on a three-phase plus neutral network,

phase 1 + neutral = 220V or phase 2 + neutral = 220V or phase 3 + neutral = 220V.

Be careful with the current consumption with this type of PLC sockets, it's 9W per socket and with the 1.9% increase that EDF will apply at the end of August, it will hurt if you leave them plugged in all year round.
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the druid without the potion.

chris

I don't know what to think
indeed at FNAC they say that as soon as there are two circuit breakers it doesn't work
so I think I will connect a computer upstairs via a phone cable to the phone socket on the ground floor which is connected to the Freebox

I feel like I'm adopting a "too simple" solution because no CP and no wifi... if it's that simple, why doesn't everyone do it
anyway I feel like I'm doing something silly

chris

brupala Posted messages 111942 Registration date Status Membre Last intervention 14 421 > chris

And the ethernet cable, didn't you think about that?
it's definitely the most efficient solution.
Fnac is mistaken, powerline adapters are not stopped by circuit breakers, well it depends on the type of circuit breaker, it can even go through meters to the low voltage transformer... at a reasonable distance (around a hundred meters).
to learn more: http://www.cpl-france.org#quoi
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and... There you go!

ctxlp2002 Posted messages 4814 Status Contributeur 1 182

Hello,
yes, the powerline communication (PLC) works with three-phase, but you need to add a specific coupler.

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Nico

I confirm, it’s heating up pretty well; and when there’s heat release, it means it consumes watts :)

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