WEBCHOC why is this site not banned? : CCM

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Nathan

If you don't like hard rock, you don't listen to it; if you don't like eating Chinese food, you don't eat it; if you don't like the shock videos offered on this site, you don't go there... sorry for the frankness, but some people love this site and the videos you can find there!
No one is forcing you to go there...
On that note, have a nice day everyone ;)

Qu'est-ce à dire

What you are saying is outrageous, because the one who produces music makes it available for others to listen to.

The one who dies has never made their death available to turn it into a spectacle for a bunch of perverts to gawk at.

There is a criminal offense in criminal law: Violation of the memory of a deceased person! This is not done by music, nor by the pear, nor by the apple, and even less by the banana.

Criminal Code
Legislative part
BOOK II: Of crimes and offenses against persons.
TITLE II: Of violations of human dignity.
CHAPTER V: Of violations to the dignity of the person.
Section 4: Of violations of respect due to the dead.

Deimos > Qu'est-ce à dire

You are absolutely right. And how would you react if it happened to someone close to you, if the video of their death was a box office hit on shock websites or if you found a shocking video of yourself? Do you enjoy seeing the "reality" when it isn't in your home? Respect for the person applies to every human being, living or dead.

Réponse 2 / 38

Anonymous user

I can't believe it...

It's insane, it's truly deplorable to have people like you!

I’m 100% in agreement with the author of this post.
And reading your comments makes me realize... that everyone finds this normal, sometimes amusing, even essential for some!

Are you even aware of your stupidity? Apparently not.
(And of your spelling mistakes either, by the way).

So you think it's normal for people to film atrocities and spread them all over the internet? It's sick, yes! You have to be disturbed in some way to enjoy watching that kind of horrors.

A guy who beats someone just for fun and films it, just for kicks, does that seem natural to you? Is that entertaining to you? It's deplorable.

I see that many of you bring up the great argument that these videos are necessary, testimonials of human violence, because the world isn’t all rosy, etc...
Wow. Thanks for this great moral lesson, I’m almost in tears.

Seriously, if you want to see a testimony of human stupidity, go take a tour at Auschwitz.
And if you want more testimonies, turn to cinema. Cinema, mind you, I didn't say “Transformers”! No, I’m talking about films like Johnny Got His Gun or Hotel Rwanda, for example.

The videos you mention, they are "snuff movies."
They are designed by idiots, for idiots. They are immoral, cowardly people, who disgust me, in short, scum, who carry out and film the dirtiest things possible on their victims (animals, people) because it amuses them, and because it can also make them money, as a bonus.

And the worst part is that there are enough stupid people to legitimize this kind of videos,
which encourages the creators to do it again!

This reminds me of an incident that happened not long ago:
A journalist who filmed, from beginning to end, the agony of a woman who had just been shot...
Everyone online took a perverse pleasure in watching that video. Not me.
It’s horrific. The journalist who filmed that, he must be the intergalactic emperor of idiots.
The guy witnesses this, a woman getting shot, and instead of staying by her side, helping her, supporting her in this moment of suffering, all he finds to do is film her, like a sideshow.
Instead of putting down his camera and respecting her suffering and death, this guy filmed everything, making him almost as pathetic as the one who shot that poor woman.

So to summarize for you:

->Cinema denounces atrocities (among other things), to show people how horrible mankind is.

->Snuff movies SHOW real atrocities, and don’t denounce anything at all.

So to return to the issue at hand, I also don’t understand why these sites
and these videos are not banned.
This just shows that the law is useless!

And you all just proved how many people are idiots by legitimizing snuff movies.
Here it is, human stupidity. Doing things like this and letting them pass.

Congratulations.

Réponse 3 / 38

ETVAS

Webchoc is COOL!!!

Réponse 4 / 38

Anonymous user

And what’s the point of writing in capital letters?

Apart from hurting our eyes and making your post
unpleasant to read!

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We all learned one day, we should never forget it...

royal_cheese

If you don't want to watch videos like this, feel free not to visit the site. There are plenty of warnings to inform you that the videos you might see could be distressing to sensitive viewers.

Anonyme

well he writes big because he isn't smart enough to read in lowercase, and he's right if you only live in happiness and if one of your loved ones dies in an accident and then you think "it's possible to die like that" well then you'll come off as the loser of the service.

Réponse 5 / 38

Nathan

It may not be so bad that webchoc is more difficult to access! Typing it in the search bar ("www.webchoc.com") would prevent sensitive children from typing "x" into Google and stumbling upon videos that are even more shocking than pornography.

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Because I’m sharing my personal opinion, children under 16 should not use a computer without this great option "parental control" because for me, porn at 16 didn’t give me nightmares, but after all, everyone reacts differently.
But how can a website containing pornographic or horror videos know that you are of age? I don’t give my credit card to a porn site, but that’s just my personal opinion!

But above all, think about monitoring minors' access to porn or hardcore sites; parental control would solve everything.
Thank you for understanding that it’s the children who are most affected by such horrors. After all, as I said, if you don’t like hard rock, you don’t listen to it.

Good evening everyone and have a good debate ;)

Réponse 6 / 38

dalex

Wilc0, Bouh, allow me to tell you that you're talking a bit of nonsense.

First of all, you talk about snuff movies, cruelty towards people, and torture. I've been visiting webchoc for a while and I've never seen a single video of that sort. I feel like you're criticizing a site you haven't visited, so it's hard not to be off-topic... Personally, I mostly see injury videos (some are gory, it's true), tragic accidents, and news stories that have already been aired on TV, but nothing of what you're talking about!

Wilc0 -> "Is it because we're shocked by these kinds of videos that we're sensitive?" That's a bit of the definition of the word sensitive. If blood horrifies you, you don't watch a documentary on heart surgery.
These videos shock you because they are not meant for you, quite simply! It's not for lack of warning ;)

Furthermore, webchoc is much more than just a few "shocking" videos; it's full of excellent humorous videos, impressive videos, and sometimes sexy ones (although that's not what interests me).

Wilc0, visit the site without clicking on the so-called "shocking" videos (there aren't many actually and the webmaster clearly warns about them) and you'll see that this site is not so trashy and that you'll have a good time there ;)

@+

Réponse 7 / 38

satsu02

Some people like this site because it’s not their loved ones they see getting killed. I'd like to know how they would react if they could see the death of a family member or a close friend.

Réponse 8 / 38

flowerpower1962 Posted messages 2138 Status Membre 278

-- if you don't like shock videos, X-rated scenes or anything else, you might as well spend your time watching Little House on the Prairie ...... guaranteed dullness for the pious!!!
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to be born, to die, to be reborn again and to progress endlessly, such is the law.

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Anonymous user

Good evening, if only we could shut down all the sites that deserve it...
But that's not our job!!! We stick to assistance and
high tech advice!

Good evening.
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We all learned one day, we should never forget it...

Réponse 10 / 38

Anonymous user

Wait guys, sensitive, sensitive...

Is it because we're shocked by this kind of videos that we're "sensitive"?
Just wait, it goes way beyond "sensitivity"!

It's also and above all a moral issue, right!
Torture, extreme violence, all that, you think it's cool, do you? It doesn't bother you? You find that "normal"?

Bouh -> I totally agree with you!
I completely share your opinion... Except on one point: Sensitivity is not a weakness!
It's just what society wants to make you believe. Generally, painters and musicians are sensitive people. Does that make them inferior beings? No, quite the opposite.
If being "strong" means feeling nothing at all... excuse me; I disagree!

So you guys can just sit down with your family and watch snuff movies on a Saturday night, relaxed on the couch, without questioning it too much?

So you all live without morals, then?

dalex -> No, I'm not mocking you. I stumbled upon this by accident! Not on "Webthing," but on this post, I was hearing! I'm not being disingenuous either.

- > "And reading you, I realize... that everyone finds this normal"
I don't conclude that I'm a deviant. Besides, there are still two or three people here (that's already something) who, I think, are pretty much in agreement with me.
This simply leads me to question the mentality of people and myself. That's what a debate is for, isn't it? To share opinions. That's what I'm here to do.

But between us, when I see people spouting this kind of thing (I quote):

"PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WANT TO PUT AN END TO SHOCKING VIDEO ARE CERTAINLY PERVERTING THE REALITY OF THINGS"

... No comment.

Or again "If you don't like hard rock, you don't listen to it, if you don't like Chinese food, you don't eat it"

... When I see that, excuse me, it really gets me worked up!
Speaking like this about such a serious subject is catastrophic.

We're not talking about spring rolls and dumplings here! We're talking about people who have been tortured on site and filmed, "just like that"!
And what does hard rock have to do with it?
It's not a matter of taste! It's a matter of morals!!

It's like asking questions like:
So euthanasia, for or against? And the death penalty? And war, for or against?
Answer: "Oh well, it's like Chinese food, some like it, some don't."
Yeah, that's a bit light for issues of this magnitude, isn't it?

It quite well reflects a very lobotomized mentality, if I may say so.

What's serious, as Bouh said, is that these videos clearly raise an ETHICAL issue!

That's why I'm so surprised to see so many people who find it "normal".

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Bahamut

Webchoc is a site that broadcasts shocking videos.

But one must not confuse shocking with unhealthy.

I agree that filming a person in agony instead of helping them is an immoral and barbaric act.

But the administrators of the Webchoc site do not promote this kind of behavior.

On the contrary, they denounce it; they show all facets of humanity, both the bad and the good.

The trashy and gory videos are not the only ones present on this site. Those are the ones that stick in our memory the most because they show the worst traits of man.

But on Webchoc you will also find many videos that show things that are pleasing to see.

I invite you to watch this video.

http://www.webchoc.com/videos2/spip.php?article7691

PPBoyington Posted messages 2318 Status Membre 402

A stillborn elephant calf is nice to see?

Réponse 12 / 38

booob

But stop right there, honestly! Leave this site alone.
The day there’s a road accident, we’ll be less shocked to see a guy missing an arm and we’ll help him without difficulty, whereas you’ll be throwing up on the ground waiting for the paramedics.
This site is more of a prevention site; when we see what happens there, we discover that the human body is much less resilient than we thought.
We avoid making the same mistakes we see in these videos, and thus we won’t end up on a memory card of a digital device or a mobile phone.
If you don’t like this site, just move on, but tens of thousands of people are curious to see what’s on it... at their own risk.
With that said, happy surfing! ^^

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buzzfuzz

go look elsewhere if you find that shocking

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johnson

You don't know where that guy finds his videos??? Because now all the cool videos are only accessible to VIPs (for a fee!)... or is there someone who could give me a VIP access code?!

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Anonymous user

It's clear that when you see a guy with maggots in his feet or a kid with a horrible knee infection and you see their face... for the families (or even the person), it must be worse than humiliating.
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Additionally, I would just add that... you are currently reading my signature :)

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dalex

Hello everyone, both those who defend the opinion of a free web and the more sensitive individuals.

Arm56-ddl - > Why isn't the website Webchoc shut down/forbidden by law?

Surely because the webmaster implements means to protect sensitive individuals from certain content on his site, and unless you know how to read, I don't understand how you could access content that you found inappropriate despite the multiple warnings (3 before accessing a so-called shocking video!!).

Wilc0 - > "And by reading your comments, I realize... that everyone finds this normal."

So what conclusion do you come to? That it's you who is apparently deviant, not the others ;)

Wilc0 - > "I also stumbled upon it by chance."

Are you mocking us? I have to click on two warnings before accessing shocking videos.

Everyone has their opinion on the matter, and it's certainly defensible. Some weak-minded individuals (Wilc0, Arm56-ddl, etc...) will find this content disgusting (the warnings are for you guys ;) you should read! Otherwise, one day you'll drink bleach instead of your Evian), while others will find it merely entertaining.

It's not like on TV where images come up unexpectedly during the news (or even reports, anti-smoking ads, highway safety...), you can't access the site without having gone through one or more warnings!

Don't like this content? Then don't access it, nobody's holding a knife to your throat!

Réponse 17 / 38

des

Most of the videos that show people dying are filmed randomly.
Furthermore, if you don't like this site, don't go there.

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Worshipper

LOL The guy who says go watch this video it's not bad.. and links a video of a stillborn elephant... sorry it made me laugh... I was expecting to see a fun video or something :X not a 10-liter bag of blood and a poor dead elephant^^ :X

Anyway, I'm FOR Webchoc, mainly because this kind of site is interesting because there are videos of all kinds, personally I watch some fun videos, unusual photos, etc., and rarely gory videos when the subject intrigues me, but they are well identified as shocking videos, so if you're not stupid, well, you don't click on the video, and you don't click on OK, I want to see this shocking video xD lol

Anyway, I'm tired of seeing on TV: Don't move for your health, I'm tired of seeing smoking kills on cigarette packs, I'm tired of this daily patronizing... Take care of your Facebook account or your other nonsense, let us have Ogrish Rotten or Webchoc if it keeps us entertained.

With a bit of luck the site is hosted abroad, and even the CNIL won't be able to do anything :)

Yeah, the magic of the internet and laws that only concern certain countries, just ask the uploaders :P

Worshipper.

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Bouh

I don't write as well as Wilco, but I completely agree with you! This kind of site is unhealthy, immoral, and serves no purpose other than to acclimate a multitude of lobotomized idiots to violence. It's not that hard to at least respect those who have nothing left to lose...the dead. After trash TV, trash sites... There will always be sheep to applaud this kind of horror.

Qu'est-ce à dire

You just need to report this site to the CNIL, as it is an offense under French law, the CNIL will inform the public prosecutor and a notice will be communicated to Internet Service Providers and Search Engines to block access to this site.

http://www.cnil.fr/acces/contactez-nous/

PPBoyington Posted messages 2318 Status Membre 402 > Qu'est-ce à dire

Given the SEO of commentcamarche, every time you talk about this site here, it gives it some publicity... I didn't know it and I went there after the first message (Which I suspect is a disguised ad, like "Oh, definitely don't go to this site, there are a lot of dirty films," moral of the story, everyone goes there!)

Qu'est-ce à dire > PPBoyington Posted messages 2318 Status Membre

What are you talking about?!
About the CNIL?!

PPBoyington Posted messages 2318 Status Membre 402 > Qu'est-ce à dire

No, web stuff!

Réponse 20 / 38

Anonymous user

whether we like it or not, so warn the CNIL info provided

Then there's also
http://www.rotten.com/
http://www.video-gore.com/
...
It serves absolutely no purpose
If you want to watch videos like that, you watch
If you don't want to, you don't watch (that's pretty much what everyone has been saying from the beginning and I find it logical)

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Spelling isn't my strong suit but I'm making an effort XD
Additionally, I would simply add that... you are reading my signature :)

WEBCHOC why is this site not banned?

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