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Hello,
I recorded a movie on the hard disk of my standalone DVD recorder. When I try to copy the movie from my hard drive to a DVD, it works perfectly, but as soon as I want to read it on my PC, it indicates that the DVD is blank, or that there is no DVD in the drive. Is this a burning issue? It was finalised by my standalone recorder, and is there a way to recover the file on this DVD to put it on an editing table to cut the commercials? Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this.
I recorded a movie on the hard disk of my standalone DVD recorder. When I try to copy the movie from my hard drive to a DVD, it works perfectly, but as soon as I want to read it on my PC, it indicates that the DVD is blank, or that there is no DVD in the drive. Is this a burning issue? It was finalised by my standalone recorder, and is there a way to recover the file on this DVD to put it on an editing table to cut the commercials? Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed some light on this.
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Hello gule
What mode did you use to burn the DVD with your standalone recorder: VR (for Video Recording) or V (for Video)?
If you have Nero software, I believe you can play your DVD with NeroShowTime, but I'm not sure.
Which software are you planning to use to remove the ads?
Also, try using the software DVDDecrypter --> Mode --> Files to see if the copy to your hard drive is possible.
You can also try software like Nero and import disc, DVD Shrink, or DVDFab HD Decrypter.
Best regards
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What mode did you use to burn the DVD with your standalone recorder: VR (for Video Recording) or V (for Video)?
If you have Nero software, I believe you can play your DVD with NeroShowTime, but I'm not sure.
Which software are you planning to use to remove the ads?
Also, try using the software DVDDecrypter --> Mode --> Files to see if the copy to your hard drive is possible.
You can also try software like Nero and import disc, DVD Shrink, or DVDFab HD Decrypter.
Best regards
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Check the box if the problem is solved if that's the case.
To upload images with CCM, you need to go through a website and leave the URL link.
See here: http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet 2380 ccm insert an image in a discussion
plus this: http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet 5606 show a screenshot
and here for the sites: http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet 451 free hosting of images and photos
Everything is well explained I think.
A little addition on how I do it: you must first save your screenshot as an image with the Paint software, which is found on your computer for example. I resize my images with Adobe Photoshop Album, which is free, but you are not obliged to.
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Check the box problem solved if that’s the case.
See here: http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet 2380 ccm insert an image in a discussion
plus this: http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet 5606 show a screenshot
and here for the sites: http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet 451 free hosting of images and photos
Everything is well explained I think.
A little addition on how I do it: you must first save your screenshot as an image with the Paint software, which is found on your computer for example. I resize my images with Adobe Photoshop Album, which is free, but you are not obliged to.
A+
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~ Little fish will become big ~
Check the box problem solved if that’s the case.
Hi Ziggurat, and thanks for your reply,
well, I’m not sure about the burning mode, it was done automatically without asking for my opinion,
I have Nero 6, and I will try what you told me and keep you updated,
for the editing, I will see if I can import the video once I manage to get it onto my hard drive, then I have Movie Maker or Nero, I’ll try all that, and thanks again. @+.
well, I’m not sure about the burning mode, it was done automatically without asking for my opinion,
I have Nero 6, and I will try what you told me and keep you updated,
for the editing, I will see if I can import the video once I manage to get it onto my hard drive, then I have Movie Maker or Nero, I’ll try all that, and thanks again. @+.
well, it's not looking good, none of the techniques you gave me can detect files on the DVD, the movie is definitely there since I watched it on the home player, anyway, I think it's a lost cause, unless you know some other tricks, in any case, thanks for your help. @+.
No, try using the recovery software IsoBuster.
If it doesn't work with it, then it will probably be game over.
See you later
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If it doesn't work with it, then it will probably be game over.
See you later
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isobuster found the files and stored them on my hard drive, but I can't open them.
ziggoura thanks anyway for your intention regarding my problem.
ziggoura thanks anyway for your intention regarding my problem.
What kind of files/documents are these?
If you have VOB files, use VLC to play them: http://www.videolan.org/
Another thing, with Nero 6, do you have the NeroVision application?
I'm asking this because you might need to recreate the structure of a DVD-Video with this application so that you can cut the commercials.
See you later
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Check the box problem solved if that's the case
If you have VOB files, use VLC to play them: http://www.videolan.org/
Another thing, with Nero 6, do you have the NeroVision application?
I'm asking this because you might need to recreate the structure of a DVD-Video with this application so that you can cut the commercials.
See you later
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~ Little fish will become big ~
Check the box problem solved if that's the case
It's 5 files that have the property IBQ04 and are about 390 MB, and 1 other is TAO. When I try to open them, it asks me if I want to use the internet to read them.
You must have chosen the option to create an Image to put your files on your hard drive or the software options to recover your files.
What I want to know is which files/folders are indicated in the left window of IsoBuster?
I do not proceed like that to recover my files. I take the files that are in the right window and I copy them directly into a folder on my hard drive, one by one. This allows me to have the same files as those on the DVD.
My way of doing this, with a DVD from a Thomson standalone burner, to recover files from a DVD disk.
See image: http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1295/isobusterrcupration01vk2.jpg
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What I want to know is which files/folders are indicated in the left window of IsoBuster?
I do not proceed like that to recover my files. I take the files that are in the right window and I copy them directly into a folder on my hard drive, one by one. This allows me to have the same files as those on the DVD.
My way of doing this, with a DVD from a Thomson standalone burner, to recover files from a DVD disk.
See image: http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1295/isobusterrcupration01vk2.jpg
A+
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Check the box if the problem is resolved if that's the case.
I would like to show you what I have on the screen. I took a screenshot that I pasted into Word, but I don't know how to insert it into my message. Do you have any idea how to do that?
Thank you for the image, it's perfect. I understand better why I had trouble understanding what you were talking about.
I don't recognize this kind of DVD with two parts Track 01 and Track 02.
And what happens if you double-click to open Track 02?
I will try to do some research on the net about TAO and the Tracks.
See you later
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I don't recognize this kind of DVD with two parts Track 01 and Track 02.
And what happens if you double-click to open Track 02?
I will try to do some research on the net about TAO and the Tracks.
See you later
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Check the box solved issue if that's the case
when I click nothing, I can't do much in terms of choice:
https://imageshack.com/
I tried several times without results, I think I'm going to give up, it's starting to annoy me,
anyway, thanks for your help, I learned how to insert a screenshot, that's something, you seem to be a pro in IT, kudos for your skills, thanks again and @+.
https://imageshack.com/
I tried several times without results, I think I'm going to give up, it's starting to annoy me,
anyway, thanks for your help, I learned how to insert a screenshot, that's something, you seem to be a pro in IT, kudos for your skills, thanks again and @+.
Thank you for the compliment, it makes me happy... :-)
I won't give up because I don't like to dwell on failure.
If I find something interesting I will post it, otherwise sorry
Have a good evening and see you later, maybe
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~ Little fish will grow big ~
Check the box problem solved if that's the case
I won't give up because I don't like to dwell on failure.
If I find something interesting I will post it, otherwise sorry
Have a good evening and see you later, maybe
--
~ Little fish will grow big ~
Check the box problem solved if that's the case
Since yesterday, I've found quite a few interesting things.
I also want to thank you, because I had never explored the IsoBuster software, free version, thoroughly.
By the way, if you could let me know the name of your standalone recorder, I could try to see in what video format it burns.
First, I used the help for IsoBuster with English videos available on this page: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/tips/
Summary of the help: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/help/
Index of IsoBuster terms: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/help/
I also browsed the internet to look for other sources of information.
The terms:
- The TAO file is an image file generated by the Duplicator software integrated into IsoBuster. It's the equivalent of an ISO image.
More info here: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/help/configurer_la_creation_d%27un_fichier_image. This means you can change the settings so that IsoBuster creates an ISO image file instead of TAO. (ISO is the international standard for image files and is less difficult to manage for most software).
However, to create a TAO or ISO image file larger than 2 GB, your partition's file system on your hard drive must be in NFTS and not in FAT32. Is that the case?
To switch from TAO to ISO: Options --> Directories --> Image File tab --> ISO/BIN/TAO --> Check the first box.
- The ibq and ibp files: the first is an image, like TAO or ISO, the second is the manager file of that image, like the IFO file present in the VIDEO_TS directory (standard DVD video).
- As for Track, seen in the left window, it’s the equivalent of a session, a part, or a track (literal translation of the word). So, for your disc, there is an inaccessible part (the red cross) and another accessible one, the Track 2, which is the one we are interested in.
- LBA: Logical Block Address. A CD or DVD is divided into blocks. Each block has a unique address. However, there are different addressing methods. The logical address does not necessarily have to match the physical address. A block also refers to a frame or sector.
I don't know what this might be used for.
Things I don't understand:
"There are 5 files with the property IBQ04 that are around 390 MB and 1 other is TAO, when I try to open them it asks if I want to use the internet to read them."
Did you perform the same extraction, or two different operations to obtain these files?
The thing I don’t get is that you have 2 Tracks present on the disk. Could this indicate that you recorded two sessions on your discs (see: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/help/agencement_d%27un_cd_dvd, at the bottom of the page)?
The other thing that intrigues me is that you cannot expand the Parts; there is no little + next to it. This is more concerning, in my opinion.
What you could do, perhaps:
It seems that you can read the TAO image (if it is the one containing the large file of 4.35 GB) with VLC player.
It is also possible to read the IBQ file directly with VLC, or from the IBP file.
The possible solutions:
So now you need to know what you recorded on the DVD. Whether it’s a single film or multiple films/series/shows. Only you know that.
And especially what the different images you extracted on the hard drive correspond to. To find out, use VLC.
I'll assume your main recording is in the TAO Image.
The problem is knowing what to do with this TAO Image. As this discussion shows: http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 2523199 probleme d ouverture fichier tao, it is not easy to open it. However, it seems you can do it with Daemon Tools. I managed it. But it's probably not the easiest path.
Most software does not recognize this particular image format, so it’s better to convert to the ISO format, which is more widely accepted, as I showed you above. But this is not mandatory.
The solution that actually seems the simplest is to burn this TAO or ISO Image. If it corresponds to Track 2. You first check this with VLC player.
Since we don't know what files/directories your disk is composed of, perhaps by attempting to burn the TAO file, if it's only that of track 2, with DVDDecrypter or ImgBurn (it's roughly the same software but more recent) on a rewritable DVD RW, we could finally see what's inside the disk.
But it’s not at all certain that this works. And you still need to have rewritable DVDs.
My little experiences:
I tested starting from a small DVD video (343 MB) that I created.
I extracted an image to the hard drive with IsoBuster called Track 01.
I burned this image with DVDDecrypter (ISO Mode --> Write W).
I ended up with a DVD containing only the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS directories.
I also tested with a DVD-VR and a DVD from a standalone recorder. Basically, if the TAO or ISO Images correspond to the DVD, for the IBP and IBQ files, with the DVD from the standalone burner, it’s different.
It gives me something like yours, that is to say IBP and IBQ files that do not correspond to the size of the data present on the DVD. That’s why I think it’s better to work with the TAO or ISO Image, which is more accurate in my opinion.
Finally, last experience, converting the TAO Image with the MediaCoder software. The software accepts it and is able to convert the TAO file to AVI (XviD/MP3). In the end, the encoding succeeded despite the presence of a simple menu.
Well, that’s what I did. I hope my message is not too confusing and that you'll find your way around.
Whatever the configuration of the DVD, I always manage to extract my files with IsoBuster.
I summarize what you could try.
- Check the content of the TAO or ISO Image with VLC.
- Burn the TAO or ISO Image with DVDDecrypter, of track 2 (track 02) if it corresponds to your film.
If the burn works (track 2), maybe you’ll be able to simply explore the DVD content with Windows Explorer or IsoBuster.
But the question of the unexpandability of the tracks on the DVD with IsoBuster remains. Why? It’s a mystery.
A+
--
~ A small fish will become big ~
Check the resolved problem box if that's the case.
I also want to thank you, because I had never explored the IsoBuster software, free version, thoroughly.
By the way, if you could let me know the name of your standalone recorder, I could try to see in what video format it burns.
First, I used the help for IsoBuster with English videos available on this page: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/tips/
Summary of the help: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/help/
Index of IsoBuster terms: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/help/
I also browsed the internet to look for other sources of information.
The terms:
- The TAO file is an image file generated by the Duplicator software integrated into IsoBuster. It's the equivalent of an ISO image.
More info here: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/help/configurer_la_creation_d%27un_fichier_image. This means you can change the settings so that IsoBuster creates an ISO image file instead of TAO. (ISO is the international standard for image files and is less difficult to manage for most software).
However, to create a TAO or ISO image file larger than 2 GB, your partition's file system on your hard drive must be in NFTS and not in FAT32. Is that the case?
To switch from TAO to ISO: Options --> Directories --> Image File tab --> ISO/BIN/TAO --> Check the first box.
- The ibq and ibp files: the first is an image, like TAO or ISO, the second is the manager file of that image, like the IFO file present in the VIDEO_TS directory (standard DVD video).
- As for Track, seen in the left window, it’s the equivalent of a session, a part, or a track (literal translation of the word). So, for your disc, there is an inaccessible part (the red cross) and another accessible one, the Track 2, which is the one we are interested in.
- LBA: Logical Block Address. A CD or DVD is divided into blocks. Each block has a unique address. However, there are different addressing methods. The logical address does not necessarily have to match the physical address. A block also refers to a frame or sector.
I don't know what this might be used for.
Things I don't understand:
"There are 5 files with the property IBQ04 that are around 390 MB and 1 other is TAO, when I try to open them it asks if I want to use the internet to read them."
Did you perform the same extraction, or two different operations to obtain these files?
The thing I don’t get is that you have 2 Tracks present on the disk. Could this indicate that you recorded two sessions on your discs (see: https://www.isobuster.com/fr/help/agencement_d%27un_cd_dvd, at the bottom of the page)?
The other thing that intrigues me is that you cannot expand the Parts; there is no little + next to it. This is more concerning, in my opinion.
What you could do, perhaps:
It seems that you can read the TAO image (if it is the one containing the large file of 4.35 GB) with VLC player.
It is also possible to read the IBQ file directly with VLC, or from the IBP file.
The possible solutions:
So now you need to know what you recorded on the DVD. Whether it’s a single film or multiple films/series/shows. Only you know that.
And especially what the different images you extracted on the hard drive correspond to. To find out, use VLC.
I'll assume your main recording is in the TAO Image.
The problem is knowing what to do with this TAO Image. As this discussion shows: http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich 2523199 probleme d ouverture fichier tao, it is not easy to open it. However, it seems you can do it with Daemon Tools. I managed it. But it's probably not the easiest path.
Most software does not recognize this particular image format, so it’s better to convert to the ISO format, which is more widely accepted, as I showed you above. But this is not mandatory.
The solution that actually seems the simplest is to burn this TAO or ISO Image. If it corresponds to Track 2. You first check this with VLC player.
Since we don't know what files/directories your disk is composed of, perhaps by attempting to burn the TAO file, if it's only that of track 2, with DVDDecrypter or ImgBurn (it's roughly the same software but more recent) on a rewritable DVD RW, we could finally see what's inside the disk.
But it’s not at all certain that this works. And you still need to have rewritable DVDs.
My little experiences:
I tested starting from a small DVD video (343 MB) that I created.
I extracted an image to the hard drive with IsoBuster called Track 01.
I burned this image with DVDDecrypter (ISO Mode --> Write W).
I ended up with a DVD containing only the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS directories.
I also tested with a DVD-VR and a DVD from a standalone recorder. Basically, if the TAO or ISO Images correspond to the DVD, for the IBP and IBQ files, with the DVD from the standalone burner, it’s different.
It gives me something like yours, that is to say IBP and IBQ files that do not correspond to the size of the data present on the DVD. That’s why I think it’s better to work with the TAO or ISO Image, which is more accurate in my opinion.
Finally, last experience, converting the TAO Image with the MediaCoder software. The software accepts it and is able to convert the TAO file to AVI (XviD/MP3). In the end, the encoding succeeded despite the presence of a simple menu.
Well, that’s what I did. I hope my message is not too confusing and that you'll find your way around.
Whatever the configuration of the DVD, I always manage to extract my files with IsoBuster.
I summarize what you could try.
- Check the content of the TAO or ISO Image with VLC.
- Burn the TAO or ISO Image with DVDDecrypter, of track 2 (track 02) if it corresponds to your film.
If the burn works (track 2), maybe you’ll be able to simply explore the DVD content with Windows Explorer or IsoBuster.
But the question of the unexpandability of the tracks on the DVD with IsoBuster remains. Why? It’s a mystery.
A+
--
~ A small fish will become big ~
Check the resolved problem box if that's the case.
Hi,
once I've extracted track 02, here’s what the files look like:
https://imageshack.com/
my burner is a Thomson 160GB
track 02 seems to be the right one as it's about 4 GB, plus there are quite a few interesting things on the links you gave me and I thank you for that, we’re going to end up becoming buddies, in any case, you seem really nice considering how you handle other people's problems, it warms the heart. There’s one thing I don't understand, what’s the difference in burning between a standalone burner and one from a PC? Don’t they burn in the same way?
I’ll try to do another burn to test, and see if I have any options for burning, thanks and catch you later.
once I've extracted track 02, here’s what the files look like:
https://imageshack.com/
my burner is a Thomson 160GB
track 02 seems to be the right one as it's about 4 GB, plus there are quite a few interesting things on the links you gave me and I thank you for that, we’re going to end up becoming buddies, in any case, you seem really nice considering how you handle other people's problems, it warms the heart. There’s one thing I don't understand, what’s the difference in burning between a standalone burner and one from a PC? Don’t they burn in the same way?
I’ll try to do another burn to test, and see if I have any options for burning, thanks and catch you later.
I don't have a standalone recorder. What I'm telling you is based on what I've read on various sites, so it's possible that I'm completely off the mark.
Yes, they burn in the same way, but not quite the same things.
Standalone recorders often introduce a VIDEO_RM folder on DVDs that serves to identify the device used for recording, I believe. This is in the case of a burn in V mode for Video = DVD-Video.
The other possible recording mode is VR for Video Recording (in English) and also see VRO. It seems more difficult to "process" on a PC but that's not its role. You rework your DVDs directly on the standalone recorder without the intervention of a computer.
It's this folder that makes burned DVDs special DVD-Videos that can have recognition problems on PCs. A standard DVD-Video has two folders VIDEO_TS (IFO, BUP, and VOB files) and AUDIO_TS (not important if absent as it's empty).
Can't you extract a TAO or ISO image since DVDDecrypter doesn't recognize "unknown" IBQ files (you can tell by their icons)? As a result, they can't be burned that way with the software I know.
On the other hand, the TAO Image represents the entirety of the content of part 2 and it seems that it can be burned. See image: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/604/isobuster01extraireimaghi1.jpg .
So if you could try to extract such an Image, maybe things would move a little forward.
By the way, are you able to view the video with VLC?
A+
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~ Little fish will grow big ~
Check the resolved issue box if that's the case.
Yes, they burn in the same way, but not quite the same things.
Standalone recorders often introduce a VIDEO_RM folder on DVDs that serves to identify the device used for recording, I believe. This is in the case of a burn in V mode for Video = DVD-Video.
The other possible recording mode is VR for Video Recording (in English) and also see VRO. It seems more difficult to "process" on a PC but that's not its role. You rework your DVDs directly on the standalone recorder without the intervention of a computer.
It's this folder that makes burned DVDs special DVD-Videos that can have recognition problems on PCs. A standard DVD-Video has two folders VIDEO_TS (IFO, BUP, and VOB files) and AUDIO_TS (not important if absent as it's empty).
Can't you extract a TAO or ISO image since DVDDecrypter doesn't recognize "unknown" IBQ files (you can tell by their icons)? As a result, they can't be burned that way with the software I know.
On the other hand, the TAO Image represents the entirety of the content of part 2 and it seems that it can be burned. See image: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/604/isobuster01extraireimaghi1.jpg .
So if you could try to extract such an Image, maybe things would move a little forward.
By the way, are you able to view the video with VLC?
A+
--
~ Little fish will grow big ~
Check the resolved issue box if that's the case.
Hi Ziggourat,
first of all, I apologize for taking so long to respond, and I want to thank you again for all the help and effort you put into solving the problem.
After insisting a lot, I finally made it.
I'm allowing myself to bring up the post again so that it can help others who might encounter the same issue I had.
First, I'm attaching a screenshot:
[URL=http://www.heberger-image.fr/data/images/99959_iso.png[/URL]
The correct files are the ones I highlighted, I dragged them into my videos from my documents, and voila, I can play them with VLC.
Thanks again, Ziggourat, for your patience and help. @+
first of all, I apologize for taking so long to respond, and I want to thank you again for all the help and effort you put into solving the problem.
After insisting a lot, I finally made it.
I'm allowing myself to bring up the post again so that it can help others who might encounter the same issue I had.
First, I'm attaching a screenshot:
[URL=http://www.heberger-image.fr/data/images/99959_iso.png[/URL]
The correct files are the ones I highlighted, I dragged them into my videos from my documents, and voila, I can play them with VLC.
Thanks again, Ziggourat, for your patience and help. @+