Issue with sintony alarm programming

kiurcher -  
Setea.54 Posted messages 1 Status Membre -
Hello everyone,

I have a si120 control panel with the Sylcom software and the official Siemens cable. From a desktop PC (via the DB9 COM port), I can connect without any issues and I can program it.

However, the most convenient way is to connect once the panel is in place, so I installed Sylcom on my laptop. Oops, no DB9 port on it. I bought a USB to serial cable and the PC recognizes it well (pl2303 prolific driver). But I can't connect either from the laptop or from the desktop using this cable.

Both of my computers run on XP. If anyone has a solution?? Thanks in advance
Configuration: Windows XP

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smeteor
 
Hello,

Have you checked the Series settings (TRS/DCS, Speed)

Best regards

Smeteor
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un installateur
 
Could you provide more details on how you connect exactly, please?
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sinto
 
IF YOU WANT, WE CAN TRAIN YOU LITTLE SCARAB, but you will have to travel because I think you are from Paris...

Otherwise, Brittany welcomes you, but we will first have to teach you how to run cables because if you are like TT14, you must be doing radio installations or you don't know anything about it at all and in that case...
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visio du 35 Posted messages 8 Status Membre > sinto
 
Hey, tell me, do you have something against wireless systems or against the installers of wireless systems? But tell me, do you ever pull cables? Anyway, see you!
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sinto > visio du 35 Posted messages 8 Status Membre
 
Hello to you, newcomer!

Mr. is already insulting to me, but to tell you the truth, I do sometimes pull cables and generally speaking, it's the guys who are too lazy or slothful to pull (properly). Anyway, to 'shut your mouth', in a friendly way of course, I even pull cables with junction boxes (that is, pouring concrete) and even in the rain, it doesn't bother me...

But you don't need to... with batteries............... it's not necessary........... I'm almost sure you don't even bother to secure the remote radio relays!! !! !!! !! !! !!

We lift a plate or something else and then it's done...

You should call yourself The Magician instead.....

See you + VISIO from 35
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sinto > sinto
 
In my regard (again), you will have corrected for the more intellectuals.
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visio du 35 Posted messages 8 Status Membre > sinto
 
ok ok ok let's calm down, it's true I have an issue with cable pullers but hey it's not my fault, I can't do it so it makes me nervous, alright, see you later!
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kiurcher
 
I found a way to connect, after extensive research I decided to buy a series express card on the internet, and miracle, no issues recognized directly and perfect dialogue.

I saw on forums that the pl2303 driver for my USB cord had issues with XP.... I didn't want to know more and so I changed my connection method...
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fred
 
Hello, I just saw that you have the Sylcom SAS 31F software to program the Sintony units.

I would like to know if you could send it to me for download, if that is possible.

Thank you in advance.
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sinto > fred
 
NO NO Fred, that's not very legal, call a licensed installer, or call someone who knows a bit more than you do because not everyone can rise to the occasion, right TT14 ...


Today I'm feeling great, guys

( ! by trying to type too fast, I lower myself to TT14's level, with some spelling mistakes, but TT14 doesn't do it on purpose ... )

I hug you tightly TT14, who are you, you little trickster?
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NOUNOU70
 
I just changed my PC which is not equipped with the DB 9 serial port for using the SAQ11 cable. Is there a solution to adapt this configuration to my PC which runs on VISTA? Thanks to anyone who can provide a positive response.
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kiurcher
 
Hi,

first of all, definitely don't try the connection via a low-quality USB-to-serial cable; I've tested 3 different ones with the right speeds and protocols, the drivers install without issue, but you have no communication with your control unit.

If it's a laptop, integrating an ExpressCard works for me under XP, how about Vista? Otherwise, for a desktop PC, you might want to try with a PCI card.
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jull59
 
Hello,

I have had a Sintony alarm for 2 years and my installer has gone bankrupt. I'm a bit stuck on how to change the settings, even though I have the technical code.
I was told that with the software, the configuration was much easier than with the keypad.
Do you know how I could obtain this software?
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nounou70 > jull59
 
Regarding the programming software for SINTONY 120 or others, you should contact a SIEMENS installer, as those who do not install these products do not have the aforementioned software *SYLCOM*. However, it should be noted that programming via the keyboard is the same but a bit longer. There is also the possibility to program it remotely with someone who has the program installed on a PC; you just need to provide the phone line number the control panel is connected to, then provide the indications and names of zones as well as the protocol of the remote monitoring PC (in the case of a subscription to a Central Monitoring Station).
I remain available for any further information.
Best regards
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kiurcher
 
Indeed, remote programming by an installer or someone knowledgeable is possible; however, essential parameters must be respected: for example, the download mode, mode 1 active, no access code, no callback, the sintony number must be filled in...

Generally, the person doing it remotely is the installer.

But through the keyboard, sintony is very simple...

See you later.
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sinto
 
Hey Kiurcher, you seem to know a lot about Sinto, could you tell me how I could get GRAVIS if you know?

And I agree with you, Sinto is super simple and there are many others by keyboard, but being somewhat knowledgeable about everything...

It's more user-friendly on PC.
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kiurcher > sinto
 
Hi everyone;

To respond to sinto, no, I don’t know GRAVIS... is it for an intrusion panel?? Personally, I use Sintony panels (Siemens) and the Master range (GE Aritech). I find the Masters not very user-friendly and the TITAn software much less accessible, the main advantage is their integrated access control.
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sinto > kiurcher
 
Hi everyone,

Kiurcher, excuse me, I thought you were knowledgeable. I also know Sinto, from Secom, RSI, ARitech, and to answer you, it’s true that the master version that I haven't installed but only retrieved is very comprehensive but you're right, quite complex for an untrained or poorly trained user. I think you need to be in the field because their menus and submenus are much more complex, if we can say that, for novices than the user-friendliness of the Siemens software.

You can also do access control on Sintony, and video image transmission on Sinto as well, but that serves more as a "complement" for small (simple) setups.

I also know Aplex, Topasic Pro, Domolock Expert, Eden, and a few products related to C A or intrusion, but at the moment I'm interested in Gravis. Have you found it, my dear...
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410 Posted messages 5 Registration date   Status Membre > sinto
 
Hello everyone, and Sinto, you really seem to know a lot about sintony. I feel like I could use some advice!!! See you later!
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secom > sinto
 
Hi Sinto, I see that you know a lot, like 410
you work in the field, it's not possible???
you seem very nice, could you help me???
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bcatout
 
I am looking for the SYLCOM software.
Can you send it to me by email?
Thank you.
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nounou70
 
I have the SYLCOM software on my laptop, but unfortunately my successor is having issues with his, so I left him everything until his computer is operational again, so he can set up his ongoing installations. I expect to get it back in mid-August; if you're not in a hurry, contact me after 15/08.
Regards
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ced7531 Posted messages 1 Status Membre
 
I have the sylcom if you want, but it alone is not enough for you; you need the "SAQ11" cord to connect to the control unit... If you have it, I can help you...
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fred > ced7531 Posted messages 1 Status Membre
 
Hello, I am looking for the software Sylcom SAS 31F to configure the Sintony control units.
Could you please send it to me by email?
Thank you in advance. Best regards.
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ced7531 > fred
 
email address?
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fred > ced7531
 
Hello
fredericmh@msn.com
Best regards
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kiurcher
 
Hello everyone,

To answer your questions, I am indeed a security systems installer (Sintony, Master) as well as video (Bosch, TEB, Samsung) and fire (Esser, Siemens) systems.

I am currently on a temporary assignment near Quimper, but I'm still looking for work, hoping one day to be able to offer my own services...
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kiurcher
 
I avoid totally wireless solutions as much as possible. Whenever I can, I mix: wired central, keyboard, and sirens. All the peripherals are wireless via a 433MHz quickbridge compatible with all systems because it delivers NO or NF, nothing simpler.
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skipper69 Posted messages 1 Status Membre
 
Hi Kiurcher,
I have a SI120, wired and wireless. I would like to make extensions, particularly wireless, but with equipment other than Siemens (due to cost).
Can your solution with a quick bridge work with the Siemens wireless transponder and, above all, are the new peripherals addressable in the Sintony?
On another note, can we find an IP connection extension module for the SI 120?
Thank you for your information.
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kiurcher > skipper69 Posted messages 1 Status Membre
 
Hi skipper;

The GE quickbridge is a 433MHz transmitter that allows you to control up to 8 radio receivers (IR, DO, DI, shock) or even 16 (2 on the same loop). Each receiver commands the corresponding output (so 8 NC or NO outputs) which you connect with or without a resistor to your central unit's inputs. This quickbridge requires a 12V power supply, which you generally take from your central unit.

This solution is indeed less expensive than Siemens.

As far as I remember, the SMN36 card is only compatible with the SI410.
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sinto > kiurcher
 
EXACT Kiurcher for SMN 36
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sinto
 
I KNOW WHO YOU ARE TT14, too bad for you but too bad you don't know what your nickname little beetle is for!
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master 4600
 
HI

SINTO I HOPE THE READER ACCESS CONTROL POSTST HAVE NOT GONE FLYING.
YOU FORGOT TO FIX THEM.
BUT WHO ARE YOU TT14???? MOTHERBOARD OF A SECURITY SYSTEM THAT BELONGS TO THE PAST.
THE FUTURE IS IN FRONT OF YOU ELPRO IS NO LONGER ALIVE SIEMENS????.

HELLO EVERYONE. KISSES TO SINTO
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TT 14
 
Hi Sinto, I talked about you today to my colleagues "BNC, SU2, WAC12 and co", I think they will be asking you for advice. Just between us, I'm warning you, they are not stars, their equipment only works at 200 baud.
Thanks in advance and have a good evening.
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visio du 35 Posted messages 8 Status Membre > TT 14
 
By the way, what’s your deal? I don’t understand anything you’re saying.
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GE > visio du 35 Posted messages 8 Status Membre
 
THE BAUD RATE CORRESPONDS TO THE COMMUNICATION SPEED
FOR TELEMAINTENANCE, A TRON MODEL FROM SYNTONY DOES THE JOB PERFECTLY
ANYWAY, SIEMENS IS NOT GREAT AS A MATERIAL
NO MAJOR INNOVATION EXCEPT FOR THE SI410 (EVEN ACCESS CONTROL IS LIMITED)
I RATHER RECOMMEND THE MASTER RANGE (INTEGRATED ACCESS CONTROL OF THE ATS 1002 AND CONNECTIONS ARE MORE SECURE, PLUS A HOME AUTOMATION APPLICATION FOR ELEVATOR SAS MANAGEMENT AND ACCOUNTING, SIEMENS IS REALLY BEHIND)
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kiurcher
 
Sorry tintin33, the card is in a central unit and it's spinning... I'll keep you posted...
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sinto
 
You Kiurcher are a clever little one.

You propose a Map and here it is installed.

Luckily you give good directions otherwise we could think you are just making it up...

But we know that you will find what the little scarab asked of you.

You will have made someone happy by installing (yourself) this map... clever little one.

Good luck to TINTIN.
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kiurcher
 
Hi everyone,

Yes, the card is laid out, but my last message must be over a month old if I'm not mistaken ??!!!! We can do quite a few installations in a month .... ;-)

Have a good evening everyone
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kiurcher
 
Hi everyone!

Quick question for the Master students..... what is the GE equivalent of the input logic sintony: intrusion following tempo

Basically, a timed input provided that a timer is already active, and if not, an alarm.

Thank you
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JPSCONNECTIONS
 
<quote>WOULD ANYONE HAVE THE SYLCOM CONFIGURATION SOFTWARE FOR SIEMENS CONTROL PANEL?</quote>
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winetou
 
I would also like to have the SYLCOM software.
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BGT25000
 
Hi Sinto,

I know a bit about Gravis, I did a project with a SI410 and a GRAVIS two years ago for a museum.

After having difficulty obtaining the software in French (the software was designed in Czechoslovakia, I believe), programming is super easy and using the client is nice.

Contact Siemens FSP

0899708324
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Shreky > BGT25000
 
Hi everyone, where could I find a list of supplementary products for Silcom? I need the SI120 (152 for General Protection)

Best regards, guys
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre > Shreky
 
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SUPP PRODUCTS??? ARE YOU TECH GDP??
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Shreky
 
hi,

thank you for your attention.
problem solved, I called the Control Post (pc) of Vitrolle and they sent me all the masks

I was looking to send some modifications on a prom 120 from a 152 but I was missing some references in my sylcom

no, I am not from GDP but a subcontractor, it’s almost the same we work together but not under the same banner.

bye
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Shreky
 
and what about you? member of the staff ..
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre > Shreky
 
ANCIENT MEMBER INDEED OUT OF GAME SINCE DECEMBER HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR A LONG TIME?
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PLO
 
Hello, I am desperately looking for a mask for a SI152, PROM SI 150-CET V2.1, mask FF O789-10 E5. Thank you for your replies.
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Shreky
 
JP ?
I've been here for 3 years... Where are you from, DamMary les Lys?
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre
 
AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME? IT'S POSSIBLE THAT I KNOW YOU...
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Shreky > JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre
 
If I say Abdé, do you know him?
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre > Shreky
 
NO, IT DOESN'T RING A BELL, MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER.
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre > Shreky
 
AH OK WELL I WAS IN FONTENAY TOO BUT I HAD THE CHANCE TO LEAVE BEFORE ALL THE CHANGES AND HONESTLY NO REGRETS REALLY IT'S FUNNY WE DIDN'T EVEN RUN INTO EACH OTHER???
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Shreky
 
Where were you working?

I work for Fontenay (PC2) but since their restructuring of the 3 agencies, it's been going completely off the rails!!!
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Shreky
 
What's your name?

We must have run into each other!
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410 Posted messages 5 Registration date   Status Membre > Shreky
 
GDP but it’s not an alarm company, it’s a tie shop. We’re glad we didn’t buy them, right guys?
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre > 410 Posted messages 5 Registration date   Status Membre
 
C STANLEY WHO BOUGHT AND WHICH COMPANY ARE YOU FROM?
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410 Posted messages 5 Registration date   Status Membre > JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre
 
I am a subcontractor for ADT, but is Stanley the same as Stanley toolboxes???? If that's the case, we did well not to buy them from GDP!!!!! Alright, see you and have a good weekend.
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre > 410 Posted messages 5 Registration date   Status Membre
 
YES, IT'S THE SAME THING. YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW THAT STANLEY OR FACOM, IT'S ALSO THE SAME THING, THE SAME COMPANY. PLUS, IT'S CLEVER, THEY ALREADY DO SECURITY IN THE STATES. THEY SIMPLY BOUGHT GDP TO ESTABLISH THEMSELVES MORE EASILY IN THE SECURITY FIELD IN FRANCE, RISKING TO REPEAT MYSELF........
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre
 
??? WHO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
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220
 
I was talking about 410.
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JPSCONNECTIONS Posted messages 19 Status Membre
 
TO RESPOND TO KIURCHER A LITTLE LATE NO DOUBT
I think you need to go to Windows Device Manager, System, and there you have all the installed devices; you can also find your USB adapter there. In my opinion, it is simply not on the right COM port; you just need to change it to a different COM port (even if Windows tells you that the chosen port is already in use). Very often, the cable works on COM port 1 and 2.
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