Can you install Windows on an Ordisimo Lucie2 PC?
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Hello,
can we install Windows on an Ordissimo Lucie 2 PC?
can we install WhatsApp?
can we install Alibaba on an Ordissimo Lucie 2 PC?
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Hello,
Ordissimo is a brand of computer on which no other system or even software can be installed other than those provided by the manufacturer. It is a locked Linux distribution, contrary to all practices in this environment.
The brand claims to be "for seniors," which implies renouncing any modification of this "proprietary" system, understood as commercial.
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-36586102-systeme-d-exploitation-pour-seniors
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-37945278-installer-des-applications-sur-un-ordissimo
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-37819788-retirer-ordissimo-sur-msi
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-37749198-ordissimo-et-microsoft
Alibaba is an online retailer, which can be accessed in the provided browser without having to install anything, unless there is a malfunction of the latter or the network cards of the computer, which constitutes an unavoidable blockage in the absence of the possibility to install testing and repair utilities.
Unless the leaders have corrected their bias, visitors who tried to obtain help from their customer service were turned away, according to the admission of visitors on CCM.
One of the messages (from 5 years ago, which remained unanswered by the supplier):
Purchase of Ordissimo Lucie 2 | Ordissinaute Forum
No solution has ever been shared on this forum (or the others I have browsed), but you can contact their "services" directly, in which case you can communicate their response to us:
https://www.ordissinaute.co.uk/
https://www.ordissimo.fr/nous-contacter?id_contact=3
On their forum:
Community Forum | Ordissinaute
Or on their "serenity club," subscription for 99 euros, which I doubt will positively respond to a request to remove their system:
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Hello,
On Linux, the semantics have their reasons that reason...
Linux is Open Source which doesn't necessarily mean that it is free but that the holder of the license, who may have purchased it, is supposed to be able to access the code and modify it: this is the case with RedHat and CentOS.
Proprietary Linux distributions, including for the general public, have always existed, such as the first EeePCs running Xandros (where one could get rid of the infantilizing interface).
We see the same case with Android, whose code is also Open Source but which is made proprietary in certain versions, for example, of GPS where no one really knows what is running precisely.
To get back to our subject, with a brave heart nothing is impossible, one could always imagine formatting the disk and installing something else except that the BIOS is probably locked too and the approach would rather be to install a standard Linux version due to the lack of drivers under Windows.
But I don't think anyone has ever tried to write this because the target doesn't really lend itself to it; the device is very underpowered with a very weak processor and anemic RAM.Hello brucine,
I had forgotten about the lack of drivers under Windows, which closes the debate, but even if they had been available, one would have needed to access the BIOS to boot from an external device, which is not "foreseen," neither for Windows nor for Linux (the fortunate beneficiaries of these products have experienced this).
As for the categorization of "open source," it is not really obvious for the designers of this "seniors" product (our status, it seems to me), who are presumed to be resistant to computer things, starting with the Azerty keyboard, replaced by a so-called "simplified" keyboard.
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-36944024-clavier-ordissimo-et-pave-numerique
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-2870944-clavier-ordissimo
Yes, well...
This kind of device assumes that all seniors suffer from various forms of dementia, at least enough to pull out their wallets as soon as they sneeze.
The time for fiddling with the command line and possibly the associated Windows Shell is over; today, anyone with a Tintin-style background (from ages 7 to 77 and beyond if there's a connection) is capable of using the basic functions of a recent Windows version or a user-friendly Linux distro.
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Hello,
I would like to contradict the statements made previously; I am writing this message today from an Ordissimo Lucie 2 running on Windows 10 x64 (Version 22H2). The installation was just as straightforward as on any computer: installation via boot key with partition reallocation. The system offers a UEFI startup with a boot selection menu, so there are no blockages whatsoever. The OS is very well supported, no hardware modifications, original components: 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM, 128 GB NVMe SSD. -
Hello,
We can only be pleased for its users that this brand has decided to allow a system change, which is only possible by providing access to the BIOS code.
And by the way, thanks to TritanN for their contribution.
It is not for lack of having requested their intervention on this forum, particularly following a request from one of their distributors/after-sales services, to whom they refused to unlock their proprietary operating system.
Note: we can only hope that the 4 GB RAM is expandable and that support is more responsive than before and that drivers for different peripherals can be downloaded.
As the model is no longer listed in Ordissimo's catalog, I wasn't able to gather information on memory expansion possibilities.
https://www.ratake.com/pc-portable/fiche/ordissimo-BRV8B
Furthermore, I am not aware that this configuration change option applies to older models, which were the subject of our observations.
That said, a PC with a Pentium N, 4 GB of RAM, and 128 GB HDD capacity seems limited under Windows 10.
For enthusiasts, user reviews:
https://www.ratake.com/pc-portable/fiche/ordissimo-BRV8B
Another review on a YouTube article, titled "A PC for elderly people?":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0044VgORZ8
My grandfather had it for a few days and returned it a few days later. The computer is incredibly slow, the applications that are supposedly dedicated and simplified for elderly people run terribly and are poorly designed in terms of graphics, plus the internet is really slow (2 minutes to access a webpage with fiber) not to mention that the interface is a hassle to configure or (again) internet displays outdated versions of YouTube or Google for example, which makes the OS unrecognized by Google, etc... In short, you might as well get a Samsung tablet for 200 euros or a much more functional Windows laptop!
Regardless of these considerations, one might wonder what interest there is in changing an environment presented as user-friendly for the pitfalls of Windows since, if the aim is to play or use demanding software, the hardware configuration will not allow it.
Consider the current range for which users are invited to share their experience.
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Hello,
Aside from the Internet connection, the notice concerns the device with the interface for the supposed gaga that will disappear if something else is installed.
When I was under 20, I had something comparable, an EeePC 701 with a proprietary Linux Xandros interface for the gaga, but Asus had the good sense to provide an "advanced" option allowing it to be bypassed.
I successfully installed Windows 2000 on it (very basic office and internet use), but it ultimately ran worse than Xandros, and I failed to make the same fully functional setup for XP.
That said, outside of this very basic use and assuming that Windows 10 has been installed, we will face the same issues; the hardware specifications of the device, not even mentioning storage (weak and archaic processor, low RAM), will prevent anything truly "productive" from being done and with acceptable responsiveness.
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