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Hello,
I started in two stages. A visit to Whois, scrolling straight to the bottom for a direct visit to the legal mentions, and having ChatGPT process the T&Cs.
If there's one thing it can do well, it's that, so why not use it.
Basically, on my end, it's a fresh perspective; I don't even know what the site looks like.
ChatGPT confirms that this site offers glasses of its own brand with its own stock and customizations without engaging in drop-shipping. If it sells other brands of glasses than its own, then serious doubts should arise. No brand is mentioned in the T&Cs.
Next, phase 2. Visit the site, and there, full page, only big brands.
It's in total contradiction; at the very least, the brands and authenticity guarantees should be mentioned in the T&Cs. Counterfeit without a doubt.
Reliable and trusted source or it's fake:
https://chatgpt.com/share/78b5c33e-028f-4c4a-92a9-6da1a0215934
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Hello,
Because given the price, I find it strange
The answer is in the question.
As soon as it raises your attention in this case, you already know the answer in a way.
Trust your instincts, we haven't invented anything better.
Hello,
The price itself is not necessarily a criterion since the margins of traditional stores for sunglasses or prescription glasses are phenomenal, and unless we know that the sale of a certain brand is reserved for authorized stores (this is the case with certain shoe brands that are definitely counterfeit online).
Reviews are not reliable either because they are not necessarily verified; one can inflate their own ratings.
It is a site under European law (specifically Italian if that is indeed the case), which (in principle...) limits counterfeiting, but I find it troubling that the site has no other identification (physical address, company name, names of directors) than a phone number.
This is a significant disadvantage for any potential customer service.
The fact that a site we know nothing about comes to our attention through ads on social media is a factor of distrust.
This does not tell us to what extent this site actually delivers and what the quality of the products is; I would only do this if I care little about playing and thus potentially losing, especially since private sales of certain brand collections from previous years are quite regularly found on sites that have a physical presence.
Hello,
Seriously, ChatGPT, to whom are you asking leading questions to get a "serious source"?
These are just conjectures.
I previously mentioned that, even though our Italian friends have a certain history of "flexibility" in this area, as soon as there is physical stock in the EU, counterfeiting becomes more difficult.
It’s obviously different in the case of dropshipping from Asia, but which is not formally certified.
In short, we are no further along and know nothing; as I said before, the only thing we formally know is the absence of identification data and a physical site, which is enough for me to abstain.
Breath and come back.
First of all, if it’s not clearly stated in big letters that "Reliable and trustworthy source or else it’s fake" is trolling, it means it lacked emojis or color, but no choice, we’ll have to settle for italics.
Then yes, for consuming texts, ChatGPT is unbeatable. It’s not about doing research from a sentence but about the comparison between a well-trained LLM and an input data of 223 lines (Notepad++ counts a series of words without line breaks as one line, you can do x2) and 26,652 characters. At an average of 8.23 characters per word in English, that’s 3,239 words, I find the input pretty good. So yes, I’m hopeful that the output will be relevant.
Moreover, it eliminates dropshipping for various reasons: stocks, delivery guarantees at the seller's expense, customization, so we are clearly dealing with Italian stock.
Now the question remains: does this stock contain brand products or counterfeit ones? And it’s clear: the general terms and conditions should have at least mentioned the presence of other brands. For reference, paragraph 8 "warranties" from the legal notices of ocarat.com mentions other brands (obviously, not a list) and therefore other products and services than those provided by ocarat themselves.
If you still see doubt in it, I see a site to add to my etc/hosts or then you have to buy knowing exactly what you’re getting into and what you’re going to receive. The quality, on the other hand, will remain a matter of chance.
It's still just conjecture; just because the terms and conditions mention or omit other brands doesn't mean there's counterfeiting or not.
The system as presented is not inherently abnormal; it would be a grouping of opticians from the Modena area. If we come together in large numbers, we will have better purchase discounts, and in any case, we save on leases, fittings, and costly personnel expenses in this type of business.
Nothing also prevents us from using other brands than those presented or external wholesalers without it necessarily being dropshipping or having a questionable Asian origin; this is merely within the realm of possibility.
Although I must repeat that I won't be ordering for the reasons I've mentioned, it's possible that you are right, just as the opposite is also possible. But one thing is for sure: you are providing no demonstration to support your claims regarding the authenticity of the products, their delivery, and their quality. In short, you don't know any more than I do, and you're just chattering, rather discourteously.
"in a not very courteous manner" Phew, I thought your first message wasn't. I can't imagine when it isn't.
"group of opticians from the Modena region" mentioned nowhere else than in their "about us", not in the terms and conditions. It's a story that could be believed if it were supported even a little but in doubt, no doubt.
Come on, I'm throwing out some leads:
Occhialando is not a registered company but as you saw well in the Whois, a company is indeed affiliated:
Company Detail | Italian Business Register
The number at the bottom of the terms and conditions is a VAT number, there may be a way to obtain information with that.