Unable to install Win10 on freedos pc 11th Gen

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Didi64_549 Posted messages 2761 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   -

Hello everyone, I just bought a new HP 470 G8 with an Intel 11th generation processor. When installing Win 10 Pro via a bootable USB, it does not detect the hard drive when it asks me to select the installation location.

I downloaded the memory drivers from the official HP website and copied them into a folder on the bootable USB, but the drivers are not recognized (invisible in the folder).

Has anyone ever faced this kind of hassle? Any solutions to suggest?

Thanks in advance!

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Didi64_549 Posted messages 2761 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

Hello,

You have just acquired ???

Is it you or someone else who put it together??


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brucine Posted messages 24411 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   4 105
 

Hello,

PCs without Windows are often shipped with FreeDos, which is useless: the only purpose is for the computer to display a message other than an error when it is powered on.

In theory, you can install Windows via the FreeDos command line targeting an external drive, but it's relatively complex and it will leave the FreeDos partition in a dual boot and wasted space anyway.

The simplest way is to go to the command prompt from the installation USB by navigating through the menu or via SHIFT+F10.

It’s probable that the letter displayed in the command line will be unusual, like X:>

Make sure to check the correct drive letter by using DIR C:

If the machine lists the folders of the FreeDos partition, you have the right letter; otherwise, try D: etc., until you find it; assuming it's C:, enter:

FORMAT C: /FS:NTFS

At the end of the operation, restart the installation from the USB drive, there will now be a formatted disk that will be recognized.

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georges97 Posted messages 14510 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   2 899 > brucine Posted messages 24411 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

Hello,

I agree with this wise advice. Month after month, we see applicants who have bought PCs without Windows, supposedly cheaper (this remains to be proven due to the marginal cost of a Windows pre-installed by default), either because they were not warned by the seller about the difficulty of retrieving all the drivers that need to be integrated into the ISO beforehand, or out of a desire to use a non-commercial OS.

Experienced users know the meanders of mastering the command line that using freedos entails, the open-source version of pre-graphical OSs (MS-DOS, IBM PC-DOS to name just the most well-known).

These PCs should only be of interest to advanced users, who plan to install so-called alternative OSs, primarily a Linux distribution.

Otherwise, how to understand that some detractors of the "Great Satan" Microsoft, horrific violator of our sacred individual liberties, come to ask us for help with installation (including cohorts of MSI graphics card buyers).

Oh yes, it’s to be able to play since most games are primarily on Windows.

In short, buying a PC without Windows is like embarking on an adventure akin to a first parachute jump).

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brucine Posted messages 24411 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   4 105 > georges97 Posted messages 14510 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention  
 

Hello,

No, I got to know the FreeDos command line saga back in the day under Windows (a new PC delivered with Caldera DR-Dos at the time when it was free, that doesn't change the question) and then FreeDos itself to migrate an Eeepc that came with a Linux version split into 4 partitions to Windows.

At the time, it didn't present any particular difficulty in the first case (a bit more in the second) other than knowing a few basic Dos commands, and that was even easier since we were installing from CDs; nowadays, it would be much more complicated because you have to get USB recognized by Dos.

The approach was justified back then if you also had a CD and a license that were no longer used due to the price of Windows at that time; gamers were often very good at it because, out of necessity, the games of the time involved tinkering with Dos files while today installing a Minecraft script has become a mountain.

It should only be aimed at somewhat experienced people and is no longer profitable, and that's where the contradiction lies since it is often the case for first-time buyers.

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brucine Posted messages 24411 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   4 105 > brucine Posted messages 24411 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

The other advantage of buying a blank PC is, of course, that it is not, by definition, loaded with all the bloatware from manufacturers that is very difficult to get rid of (it will only have the Windows bloatware).

There was a time when the first thing I did when buying a PC with an operating system already installed was to format it to either install another one or the same one but bare.

The downside with these completely blank PCs is that we start from the assumption that the operating system we are going to install will come with all the necessary drivers; otherwise, the snake will end up biting its own tail, especially when it comes to connection drivers.

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Didi64_549 Posted messages 2761 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   > brucine Posted messages 24411 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
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jmarion3 Posted messages 49468 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   5 505
 

Hello everyone.....

The solution from a real specialist can be found  ► This link

Regards

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brucine Posted messages 24411 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   4 105
 

Hello,

You're certainly not the one to mention a real one whose link says nothing about FreeDos.

There is no specific requirement if the BIOS is properly set up to boot from the USB key, UEFI and if necessary, de-secured... unless, for some reason, the device was delivered with a DOS partition that occupies all the space when it should have only been a small dedicated partition: in these conditions, Windows does not recognize either space or valid partition type for installation.

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jmarion3 Posted messages 49468 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   5 505 > brucine Posted messages 24411 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

Me, in any case, I'm not trying to bamboozle people ► Stop!

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Super.Mario Posted messages 583 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   250
 

Hello

If your machine's UEFI BIOS is in Secure Boot mode, it's normal that the installation key doesn't find the disk...

You need to disable secure boot in the BIOS.

See you later


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Super.Mario Posted messages 583 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   250
 

Make sure that your installation key is compatible with UEFI; to do this, use either the tools provided Microsoft MediacreationTool or the old Microsoft tool, or also with Rufus.

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