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CPU overheating issue

sylvain_1216 Posted messages 4 Status Membre -  
 rabi -

Hello, I need help or advice regarding the temperature of my CPU:

For your information, this is a pre-built PC from Memory PC purchased a month ago.

Configuration:

SQ-Tower 06T RGB case - black - glass side panel and mesh front, 4 x 120mm case fans (3 in the front, 1 in the back)

Gigabyte Aorus B550 Elite AX V2 motherboard

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X CPU

SQ 95W cooler

AMD 6700XT Sapphire Pulse GPU

32GB of Corsair RAM at 3200MHz C16

650W Be Quiet 80+ Bronze power supply

I'm using a 2K 165Hz monitor

First point:

So I play Euro Truck Simulator 2 with applications open at the same time: Logitech G Hub for the G29 and the mouse, Steam to launch the game, and AMD Software Adrenalin with the overlay to monitor temperatures. My CPU can reach about 83 degrees while gaming and 69-75 degrees in the game menu. I wanted to know if this was normal?

Second point:

Yesterday, I was in the game menu and the temperatures spiked, going over 90 degrees even though I was just in the menu.

Today, I had the same issue, but this time on the desktop (photo attached) while I was doing nothing special, just having Ryzen Master open. (I opened the case and cleaned out the dust; there was hardly anything with a brush and an air blower).

Thank you for all your responses and advice (I don't know much about computers).

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sylvain_1216 Posted messages 4 Status Membre
 
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flo88 Posted messages 28659 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   Ambassadeur 5 158
 

Hello

What exactly is your CPU cooling system?

You noted Ventirad sq 95 watt

??

If it's the cooler provided with the CPU, that's a bit tight; if you reach 90 degrees, that's not good.

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sylvain_1216 Posted messages 4 Status Membre
 

nomces sq ( brand memory pc ) 95watt

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sylvain_1216 Posted messages 4 Status Membre > sylvain_1216 Posted messages 4 Status Membre
 

same brand for the case coolers

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flo88 Posted messages 28659 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   5 158 > sylvain_1216 Posted messages 4 Status Membre
 

The CPU cooler is undersized, no wonder it's overheating; it needs to be replaced.

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steph810 Posted messages 1850 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   154
 

Hello,

2 posts ....

https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-37869887-besoin-d-un-renseignement-concernant-la-temparuture-du-cpu#dernier
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rabi
 

Hello

No overclocking? But on the desktop, doing nothing, the 8 cores are at a maximum of 4635 MHz for a 4600 max and 1.313v. It's a CPU that never cools down. Unlocked at 4600, it's fully overclocked. Base frequency is 3400 MHz.

Adrenaline + Ryzen Master is used to lower the volts and frequencies to prevent overheating normally. Don’t let them set everything to the max, that's all.

AMD said maximum temperatures: 90°C, so what are your software tools for if they allow temperatures up to 95°?

The CPU has a normal behavior, it's up to you to set the max temperature with your overclocking software.
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steph810 Posted messages 1850 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   154
 

95 °C is the junction temperature, the maximum after that is dead CPU failure.

90°C BSOD

In Ryzen Master, you can switch to manual profile on the right and press the minus button twice, not the plus.

This will reduce your frequency, but you won't even feel it.

And remember to disable XMP & Game Boost in the BIOS.

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sylvain_1216 > steph810 Posted messages 1850 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

Xmp profile enabled at 3200 for the RAM

Game boost, I don't know about.

As mentioned earlier, it's a pre-built PC with all kinds of updates done, same for the BIOS; I just had to enable XMP and Windows.

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sylvain_1216 > sylvain_1216
 

Currently, I am at about 700MHz frequency for 42 degrees.

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sylvain_1216
 

As mentioned above, I don’t know much about computers, this is my very first gaming PC.

So no CPU overclocking; I'm using AMD Adrenalin with the overlay to monitor temperatures while gaming.

The first photo was taken about 5 to 7 minutes after starting the PC, and here is a second one captured right away on the PC's welcome screen. Since 9 PM tonight, it hasn’t exceeded 50 degrees while I’ve been on Netflix and browsing the internet. Yesterday, I played and it hit a maximum of 80 degrees, and then I went into the game menu. Ten minutes later, it jumped to 90, 93 degrees; it went crazy. I turned off the game, and then it was a real yo-yo, not going below 75 degrees. I didn't understand what was happening, so this afternoon, I removed the side panel, gave it a dusting with a brush and a blower; I often clean the front panel, and upon restarting, the photos I posted show that about 20 minutes later, it maxed out at 51 degrees for the whole evening.

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sylvain_1216
 

I haven't touched anything, it arrived like this, brand new from Memory PC. I just enabled the XMP profile, 32GB at 3200.

And activated Windows.

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steph810 Posted messages 1850 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   154
 

Good Technique

Just sized your cooler and .....:

Power formula:

P (Power in Watts) = F (frequency in MHz) * U² (Voltage applied to the chip in Volts squared) / R (Internal resistance of the CPU)

Resistance:

I take 1.25 check in Ryzen master profile on the right manual you will have your voltage.

R = P / (1.25)²

So:

Your CPU

Maximum Boost frequency

Up to 4.6GHz

Thermal envelope (nominal TDP)/TDP

65W

R = 65 x (1.25)²

R = 101.5625

So

P = 4600 x (1.25)²/101.5625

P = about 68W

PS: just to understand how to size and choose it.

Knowing the minimum is +40 to 45% of the P consuming 95W is the limit of limits.

Opt for a cooler of + 120W to be safe or more Darkrock Pro 4 is great very big no RGB but great.

Example of mine 1 AMD basic very good and the Darkrock without RGB.
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rabi
 

Hello

On the ryzen master site, there is a page that indicates limits imposed on a CPU.

It is immediately clear that the settings may not be suitable for your CPU.

Limit 95° for the first one, you should keep it much lower. AMD says that you should not exceed 90°.

Limit 142W, you immediately understand that you are more than double your 65W CPU TDP.

140A CPU EDC is huge, and you should already understand what EDC is to use the software and set the correct limit.

No, it is not easy to use overclocking software; it is not only for reading temperatures. There is no shame in not using overclocking software on a PC, for example. AMD, which provides this software, is the first to say that it no longer guarantees parts if the PC is overclocked; you have to see the reality and the cynicism behind the advertisements.

Gaming sites automatically install settings that bypass the original thermal regulations of processors, you need to be aware of that!

June 29, 2023, 29° under shelter in the weather station. I already know that the ambient air is 10° too high, I need to lower my overclocking limits today.

https://media.ldlc.com/bo/images/fiches/processeur/amd/vermeer/amd_ryzen_master.jpg
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