Shared bandwidth wifi Freebox (throttling?)
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Hello,
I have a small issue with the bandwidth sharing of my box.
When I welcome my nephew home for a week, he hogs the internet in a very cumbersome way:
YouTube videos + peer-to-peer + downloads, in short, he monopolizes all the bandwidth and as a result, when I want to check my emails, it takes me 3 minutes to open the page (sometimes with a timeout)... (even though I have fiber).
I have, of course, the option to go into my Free router and blacklist him by MAC filtering, but I find that solution a bit extreme!
I wanted to know if there is software that allows me to define the bandwidth from my router that is allocated to his PC. (like I could set a limit of 10MB/sec for download which would still leave me enough and would be quite sufficient).
I thought of Net Limiter, but the problem is that it has to be installed on his PC and as soon as I turn my back, he changes the settings or even closes the software, so I get frustrated and cut off his internet completely... which creates a bad mood in the house.
I tried Selfishnet but without much success, (when I launch the monitoring of my network, while he is using all the bandwidth, the software indicates 1KB/sec even though he has his torrents active and YouTube running at the same time... so that solution doesn’t work)
Do you know of any other method (less drastic than cutting off his connection) without me needing to install anything on his PC?
I am on Windows 10 Home.
Thank you in advance.
Selph
PS: all the connections in the house are via Wi-Fi.
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I have a small issue with the bandwidth sharing of my box.
When I welcome my nephew home for a week, he hogs the internet in a very cumbersome way:
YouTube videos + peer-to-peer + downloads, in short, he monopolizes all the bandwidth and as a result, when I want to check my emails, it takes me 3 minutes to open the page (sometimes with a timeout)... (even though I have fiber).
I have, of course, the option to go into my Free router and blacklist him by MAC filtering, but I find that solution a bit extreme!
I wanted to know if there is software that allows me to define the bandwidth from my router that is allocated to his PC. (like I could set a limit of 10MB/sec for download which would still leave me enough and would be quite sufficient).
I thought of Net Limiter, but the problem is that it has to be installed on his PC and as soon as I turn my back, he changes the settings or even closes the software, so I get frustrated and cut off his internet completely... which creates a bad mood in the house.
I tried Selfishnet but without much success, (when I launch the monitoring of my network, while he is using all the bandwidth, the software indicates 1KB/sec even though he has his torrents active and YouTube running at the same time... so that solution doesn’t work)
Do you know of any other method (less drastic than cutting off his connection) without me needing to install anything on his PC?
I am on Windows 10 Home.
Thank you in advance.
Selph
PS: all the connections in the house are via Wi-Fi.
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Thank you for your response, but it's impossible; the box is located near the TV in the living room, and my desk is upstairs. No ethernet connection, it's a desktop PC.
This doesn't answer the question,
I'm looking for software that allows me to manage my network and limit the bandwidth in order to distribute it fairly.
This doesn't answer the question,
I'm looking for software that allows me to manage my network and limit the bandwidth in order to distribute it fairly.
If there is software,
it can't be on a PC that doesn't control the entire network, unless it is the one sharing the connection.
It can only exist on the box or on an additional router if the box doesn't do it.
Moreover,
it's very difficult on Wi-Fi because it's a shared network, much easier on an Ethernet switch or router.
After that,
if you have a fiber connection, it's very surprising that you have a time out when reading your emails; I think there's another issue, or your Wi-Fi network is very poor.
You could add a router or a Wi-Fi access point just for yourself if you can't switch to Ethernet.
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and... There you go!
it can't be on a PC that doesn't control the entire network, unless it is the one sharing the connection.
It can only exist on the box or on an additional router if the box doesn't do it.
Moreover,
it's very difficult on Wi-Fi because it's a shared network, much easier on an Ethernet switch or router.
After that,
if you have a fiber connection, it's very surprising that you have a time out when reading your emails; I think there's another issue, or your Wi-Fi network is very poor.
You could add a router or a Wi-Fi access point just for yourself if you can't switch to Ethernet.
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and... There you go!
Thank you for your response
So I want to point out that I only have this problem when my nephew shares my connection
everyone else in my family who shares the connection doesn't cause any issues for anyone.
and all the PCs in the house (wife and kids) have this problem only when my nephew shows up; the connection always gets terrible.
and when I cut off his connection by blacklisting him with MAC address filtering, everything goes back to normal for everyone.
or your Wi-Fi network is very poor.
-I have a network card that does Wi-Fi 5 (802.11 AC) and my box is supposed to do Wi-Fi 6 it seems (Freebox Delta)
When I run a speed test when my nephew is here, I end up with a stupid score and a ping of over 500 ms
I can’t retake the test, he went home today, but I want to continue exploring the topic for next time
now that he’s gone here’s a speed test ( https://www.speedtest.net/result/12801453005 )
ping 11
download 458.57 mbps
upload 78.80 mbps.
I really don’t understand why when he’s at home everything goes ... downhill especially since it seems I have a very good connection for Wi-Fi.
finally:
You could add a router or a Wi-Fi access point just for you if you can’t switch to Ethernet.
this approach interests me a lot. could you elaborate a bit on the process and the equipment I would need to do this?
the Wi-Fi access point via a phone is to be forgotten from the point of view that I get poor 4G coverage in my countryside
but adding a router that I could manage sounds interesting to me.
if you don’t mind, I’d like to take a bit of your time to delve into this approach.
So I want to point out that I only have this problem when my nephew shares my connection
everyone else in my family who shares the connection doesn't cause any issues for anyone.
and all the PCs in the house (wife and kids) have this problem only when my nephew shows up; the connection always gets terrible.
and when I cut off his connection by blacklisting him with MAC address filtering, everything goes back to normal for everyone.
or your Wi-Fi network is very poor.
-I have a network card that does Wi-Fi 5 (802.11 AC) and my box is supposed to do Wi-Fi 6 it seems (Freebox Delta)
When I run a speed test when my nephew is here, I end up with a stupid score and a ping of over 500 ms
I can’t retake the test, he went home today, but I want to continue exploring the topic for next time
now that he’s gone here’s a speed test ( https://www.speedtest.net/result/12801453005 )
ping 11
download 458.57 mbps
upload 78.80 mbps.
I really don’t understand why when he’s at home everything goes ... downhill especially since it seems I have a very good connection for Wi-Fi.
finally:
You could add a router or a Wi-Fi access point just for you if you can’t switch to Ethernet.
this approach interests me a lot. could you elaborate a bit on the process and the equipment I would need to do this?
the Wi-Fi access point via a phone is to be forgotten from the point of view that I get poor 4G coverage in my countryside
but adding a router that I could manage sounds interesting to me.
if you don’t mind, I’d like to take a bit of your time to delve into this approach.
I'm not sure, I'll check later if the Delta FBX supports Wi-Fi 6; it seems to me that there aren't any Wi-Fi 6 boxes at Free, but still, even with Wi-Fi 5, it shouldn't saturate this much, especially since the Delta FBX provides very precise stats on fiber connection usage, which is probably worth looking into.
We need to see if everyone is really connecting on Wi-Fi 5; possibly configure two different SSIDs on the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz networks, with different keys, if we can—I’m not sure.
From there, you force it to connect to the 2.4 GHz network (so not Wi-Fi 5), which frees up space for others on Wi-Fi ac (Wi-Fi 5), which only operates on the 5 GHz band.
To go further, a mesh Wi-Fi network could balance the loads through different access points and a greater distribution of traffic, but it's more expensive.
The Wi-Fi network of the Freebox (like others) is not known for its great quality as soon as you're connected via fiber. (It's not any better with ADSL, but it’s less noticeable).
We need to see if everyone is really connecting on Wi-Fi 5; possibly configure two different SSIDs on the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz networks, with different keys, if we can—I’m not sure.
From there, you force it to connect to the 2.4 GHz network (so not Wi-Fi 5), which frees up space for others on Wi-Fi ac (Wi-Fi 5), which only operates on the 5 GHz band.
To go further, a mesh Wi-Fi network could balance the loads through different access points and a greater distribution of traffic, but it's more expensive.
The Wi-Fi network of the Freebox (like others) is not known for its great quality as soon as you're connected via fiber. (It's not any better with ADSL, but it’s less noticeable).
Ahhhh we can create two different SSIDs! I didn't know that.
So yes, it changes everything if I can switch to the 2.4GHz
I'll look into other things, and for Wi-Fi 6 you’re probably right, I must have been mistaken
but I still have good stats on Wi-Fi 5 (in my opinion)
it's a great idea.
I'll dig into that.
thanks
So yes, it changes everything if I can switch to the 2.4GHz
I'll look into other things, and for Wi-Fi 6 you’re probably right, I must have been mistaken
but I still have good stats on Wi-Fi 5 (in my opinion)
it's a great idea.
I'll dig into that.
thanks
I almost forgot,
you should be able to activate a guest wifi network on the box, well separated from the normal wifi, if in internet only mode.
I don't know if in terms of QOS it is disadvantaged compared to the box's wifi, but that would make sense, it might be enough.
It will be on the same radio (same channel), but I’m not sure how that shares the time with the normal wifi of the box and whether the latter is prioritized.
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and ... There you go!
you should be able to activate a guest wifi network on the box, well separated from the normal wifi, if in internet only mode.
I don't know if in terms of QOS it is disadvantaged compared to the box's wifi, but that would make sense, it might be enough.
It will be on the same radio (same channel), but I’m not sure how that shares the time with the normal wifi of the box and whether the latter is prioritized.
--
and ... There you go!
Hello,
you need to create a GUEST network through an external router and change the Wi-Fi password it uses
look online for this equipment, it’s not expensive
you need to create a GUEST network through an external router and change the Wi-Fi password it uses
look online for this equipment, it’s not expensive
Thank you,
for the QoS of the boxes, in general, it just does what we ask it to do by default, prioritizing voice over data.
In my case, I think I will opt for the solution of creating 2 SSIDs, one for the 2.4 GHz bandwidth and the other for the 5 GHz.
That way, if my nephew uses all he can on the 2.4, I should still have bandwidth left on the 5.
This solution seems to be the least expensive.
Thank you all.
for the QoS of the boxes, in general, it just does what we ask it to do by default, prioritizing voice over data.
In my case, I think I will opt for the solution of creating 2 SSIDs, one for the 2.4 GHz bandwidth and the other for the 5 GHz.
That way, if my nephew uses all he can on the 2.4, I should still have bandwidth left on the 5.
This solution seems to be the least expensive.
Thank you all.
Hello,
I'm just getting back to you to let you know that I managed to configure the box so that the 2.4GHz channel is on a different SSID.
I had to reconfigure each device in the house that does not benefit from wifi 5 (an old laptop and an old Huawei mobile).
Now I just have to wait for my nephew's next visit to check if everything is better or if it was all in vain :D
I also looked at my 2 5GHz cards (the Freebox Delta has 1 2.4 card and 2 5 cards) and I saw that on both, I could change the bandwidth from 80MHz to 160MHz.
It seems that this box really has the capability to upgrade to wifi 6.
I'm just getting back to you to let you know that I managed to configure the box so that the 2.4GHz channel is on a different SSID.
I had to reconfigure each device in the house that does not benefit from wifi 5 (an old laptop and an old Huawei mobile).
Now I just have to wait for my nephew's next visit to check if everything is better or if it was all in vain :D
I also looked at my 2 5GHz cards (the Freebox Delta has 1 2.4 card and 2 5 cards) and I saw that on both, I could change the bandwidth from 80MHz to 160MHz.
It seems that this box really has the capability to upgrade to wifi 6.
Not quite,
it seems to me that on the Delta, one of the two 5GHz channels is reserved for communication with the TV box; setting it to 160 MHz width probably won't do much since 40 MHz is more than enough for what it needs to do.
For Wi-Fi 6 or even 6E, as I think Free will likely jump straight to 6E now, hardware modification is necessary; an evolution of Freebox OS alone won't be sufficient.
But still,
I insist: Unless you live in a studio or a one-bedroom apartment, you need to take responsibility and install a Wi-Fi network separate from the box for good coverage, just as a good RJ45 socket network is outside the internet box.
it seems to me that on the Delta, one of the two 5GHz channels is reserved for communication with the TV box; setting it to 160 MHz width probably won't do much since 40 MHz is more than enough for what it needs to do.
For Wi-Fi 6 or even 6E, as I think Free will likely jump straight to 6E now, hardware modification is necessary; an evolution of Freebox OS alone won't be sufficient.
But still,
I insist: Unless you live in a studio or a one-bedroom apartment, you need to take responsibility and install a Wi-Fi network separate from the box for good coverage, just as a good RJ45 socket network is outside the internet box.