RAM Issues

Libelisa -  
 bob -
Hello, I bought an ACER ASPIRE A317-32-C9SN laptop,
since it is quite slow I wanted to add a RAM stick to boost it a bit knowing that it has 4GB of RAM and can go up to 8GB.

I bought a Crucial CT4G4SFS824A 4GB (DDR4, 2400 MT/s, PC4-19200, Single Rank x8, SODIMM, 260-Pin) Memory.

Problem is, when I place it, the light comes on but it doesn't start.

Did I make a mistake in buying the RAM, and if so (I think I did ^^') which one should I buy?

Thanks in advance and have a good day (or night)!

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 
Hello,

Just so you know, PCs sometimes have soldered RAM on the motherboard, meaning there's only one empty slot for additional RAM.
It's not uncommon and not new.

So be careful, if 8 is the max since there are already 4 soldered, we can indeed add 4 more.
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Alright but why isn't my extra 4GB RAM working then? :'(
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cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 577 > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Anyway, I doubt it does much more than that.
As for me, I would change the disk; a SATA SSD is 5 to 6 times faster than an HDD.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Seems well compatible, it should work.

Turn off your pc
remove the RAM stick
unplug the battery
reinsert your RAM stick
plug the battery back in and try.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
 
Cristali, so your advice is to stick with 4GB of RAM and scrap the purchase?

8GB of RAM is much better
and
he should have understood the SSD from the first time, right?

Moreover, given the model, if you looked it up before advising, there’s a check to do and maybe the possibility of adding an M.2 if the slot is available, rather than replacing the HDD.

Also, note that this model is really basic and will never be a powerhouse.
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
I did everything you told me, but the computer still has a black screen :/
After that, yes, I will install an M.2 SSD since there is a slot available. But I would like to know why the RAM isn't working; it's still a mystery.
And yes, I know the computer will never be a racehorse, but I would like it to be more pleasant for my wife xD.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 
Yep, this info doesn't match...

Your PC works with 4 GB of RAM and has only one empty slot.
8 GB max

So by deduction, the original RAM would be soldered.
If it's 8 max, we could only add 4 GB

And Crucial indicates 4 GB removable (so for them, a stick that comes out)
So they offer 4 and 8 GB.
If detection brings you to this page?
https://www.crucial.fr/compatible-upgrade-for/acer/aspire-3-a317-32
Yes because your link earlier leads to a page error so I'm not sure what you have.

A reference error and Crucial's comments for this PC?
Possible

I don’t know many other upgrade sites with PC scans, but we should find some and see what they offer.

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 
Little bump if this reflection/questioning above hasn't been seen.
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jfmimi Posted messages 13734 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   1 928 > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
His PC can have a maximum of 8GB, and since it already has 4GB of soldered RAM, he can only put 4GB of RAM in the slot.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > jfmimi Posted messages 13734 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
It doesn't change the fact that what is said
That the crucial site for this PC given the approximations (if the indicated page is correct) nothing makes sense, so it could be wrong data from Crucial and the RAM model indicated is possibly incompatible.
If logical, Crucial shouldn't have indicated 4 GB as removable original and shouldn't have provided 8 GB sticks... it doesn't add up.

We're not quite sure if it's an issue with the new stick or incompatibility.
(By the way, adding 4 or 8, we're not sure about that either, it could be an addition of 8 and the 4 original ones not counted. Anyway for this point...)

We would need other detection sites to cross-reference.
Just to be more sure about the types of compatible sticks

(manufacturer info, found nothing)
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Libelisa > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
On the Crucial website, they also tell me it's a removable 4 GB stick and offer me 8 GB ones, even though I don't have any other stick. So I don't understand either.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
try a scan here, see what characteristics it gives:
https://www.mrmemory.co.uk/scanner/microsoft-windows
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   Ambassadeur 1 312
 
Good evening,
Go to this site to test and see what RAM model you need!
If you bought yours from Crucial, a return is possible if it's not right.

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Libelisa
 
I just went to your site and started the scan, and it recommends the RAM that I just bought.
So why doesn't the computer start when I put it in?
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 312 > Libelisa
 
try to remove it and put it back properly, if your slot isn't damaged there’s no reason for the PC not to recognize it.
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Libelisa > quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
 
The slot is not damaged, and I have put it in and taken it out several times now, and still nothing. :(
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jfmimi Posted messages 13734 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   1 928
 
Hello
your PC is slow because your CPU (Celeron) is low-end and not powerful

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Libelisa
 
Thank you for your answers, but one of my questions is still there, why when I put the RAM that I bought and that is compatible the PC does not turn on?

Thank you in advance.
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Libelisa > jfmimi Posted messages 13734 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
On the laptop, there is only one slot and no other stick.
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 312 > Libelisa
 
In fact, you needed to buy an 8 GB stick if you only have one slot!
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Libelisa > quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
 
Ok, since they said that the computer already had 4GB of RAM and that no more than 8GB was needed, I thought it only needed a 4GB, not an 8GB. ^^
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 312 > Libelisa
 
test your original RAM stick to see if it starts, get a refund for the one that doesn't work or exchange it for an 8GB Crucial one
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member > quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
 
There was no original RAM stick, the slot was empty.
PS: It's Libelisa, but the username was taken to become a member ^^.
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jfmimi Posted messages 13734 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   1 928
 
either it's the slot or the module that has a problem

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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Little update,
I received the new RAM card and surprise... it doesn’t work either. After installing it, the computer starts but stays on a black screen just like with the other one.
So if anyone has figured out why, I'm still interested! ^^'
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member > jfmimi Posted messages 13734 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
If the slot was down, logically the PC wouldn't start at all, everything would remain off, right? Whereas here the PC starts, the power indicator lights up and the HDD spins up, but the screen doesn't; it stays black.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
The story of slot hs is possible, but it's an easy "guesswork" idea.
Not the right characteristics, and the problem is that we can't find precise information from the manufacturer or even logical information on the upgrade sites.

What's the reference for this new RAM?
When you installed the first one, was it properly seated? You didn't have to force it, did you?

A silly thing and hesitant, a last resort that's a bit unorthodox... the hunt for images and videos of those who add RAM to this model and trying to see the reference of the RAM they add.
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
The new RAM is a QUMOX 4GB DDR4 2400 2400MHz PC4-19200 PC-19200 (260 PIN) SODIMM RAM memory 4GB
And no, I have never forced the RAMs in.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
ref it's this kind > QXDDR42400CL17SOD/4GB
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
QXDDR42400CL17SOD/4GB
Oh haha, that's the one you told me about ^^
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 
Did you install the SSD? No problem?

For your RAM, you will have to contact Acer's customer service.
https://www.acer.com/ac/fr/FR/content/service-contact
(email, chat or toll-free number, not the other one)
Indicate your exact model and the reference of the two bars to try.

If they deduce a genuine issue, it’s probably a slot problem, it will be under warranty. (who knows)

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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Yes, my SSD is set up ;)
And I’m going to try customer service... hoping they know where the problem comes from. ^^'
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Out of curiosity, what type of SSD did you use?
(added M.2 or replaced HDD)
And
Did you install Windows on the M.2 (if M.2)?
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
A Samsung Internal SSD 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2 (250 GB) - MZ-V7S250BW for the SSD and I cloned the HDD onto the SSD ^^
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Already something that works :-)
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 
Level management space, store your data on the HDD by moving the libraries

Tutorial:
http://www.chantal11.com/2009/05/deplacer-mes-documents-ou-tout-dossier-personnel-sur-autre-partition-windows-7-8-10/
BE CAREFUL to create each folder that will receive the files BEFORE starting the move.

There are also different options of the same kind directly in Windows 10, but some only move future data, not the old ones, others all user files... not that simple and always the desired effect.
Doing it manually "the old-fashioned way" as in the provided tutorial is not a bad idea and is safe.
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cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 577
 
Just out of curiosity, would it be possible to get the read and write speeds of your SSD?
A HDD is about 100/90 and yours is advertised at 3500/3300
https://www.clubic.com/telecharger-fiche72020-crystaldiskmark.html
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
When I get home, I'll set it up and let you know ^^
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Here, I wasn't sure if I should change anything before launching the rest.
Compared to the HDD xD
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cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 577 > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
ok, thanks for the feedback
you need to check the top 2 boxes
your hdd is doing 144/147 which is good for a hdd
the ssd is doing 907/715 which is less than what the manufacturer advertised, it might be due to your pc's components.
the important thing is that now it should be faster I think.
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member > cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
 
Yes, you can definitely feel the difference ^^
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bob > Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
Hi, I'm having the same issue as you with the RAM.
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cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 577
 
Hello, to make it run smoother, you should rather replace the HDD that's probably inside with an SSD.
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Libelisa
 
Thank you, should it be replaced or is it possible to add an SSD?
If it's impossible, is it easy to replace?
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cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 577 > Libelisa
 
generally, there is only one location so it needs to be replaced.
on certain pcs, it is easier or less so depending on where it is located in the pc, but after that, you'll need to reinstall a windows on it
it's better to get help if you're not very familiar with it.
video below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIMuKA_N76w
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quentin2121 Posted messages 9063 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 312 > cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
 
You can also clone the current hard drive with "Macrium Reflect" for example; it creates a backup to restore on the new SSD from an external drive (USB key, external hard drive). Also, in this case, create the Macrium ISO to launch it at the startup of the new disk. This avoids having to reinstall everything: Windows, programs, documents!
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Geforce256 Posted messages 49 Status Member 4
 
It is possible that the processor does not support the frequency.
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Shynviw Posted messages 30 Status Member
 
ah and how do I know if it's that?
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cristali Posted messages 8613 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   1 577
 
forget about this ram story, which won't bring you much at best, and get an ssd, there you'll see the difference.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 
The best would be both.

Especially an SSD, but also 8 GB of RAM instead of 4 GB, which remains very light for Windows 10.

It seems I'm not the only one who can't find reliable information, and there's an issue with the RAM stick based on what the upgrade sites provide.

I hope it doesn't malfunction with the M2 slot either :-)
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