Request for information on PTT installation
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Hello,
I am eligible for FTTH, before proceeding with the connection process I searched for my telecom access point which I can't find. I asked my two neighbors who had their houses built by the same company and in the same year as mine (1981) and they do not have an access point and had to dig a new trench. We, along with other residents on the street, are connected to a PTT flowerbed located in front of their houses. My house, unlike theirs, has a distribution chamber with concrete covers where the PBO is located because my mentioned neighbors are connected there.
My question: Is it possible that this previously empty distribution chamber, containing only cables, could have served as an "improvised" access point by PTT back in the day?
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I am eligible for FTTH, before proceeding with the connection process I searched for my telecom access point which I can't find. I asked my two neighbors who had their houses built by the same company and in the same year as mine (1981) and they do not have an access point and had to dig a new trench. We, along with other residents on the street, are connected to a PTT flowerbed located in front of their houses. My house, unlike theirs, has a distribution chamber with concrete covers where the PBO is located because my mentioned neighbors are connected there.
My question: Is it possible that this previously empty distribution chamber, containing only cables, could have served as an "improvised" access point by PTT back in the day?
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Configuration: Windows / Chrome 85.0.4183.102
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Hi,
yes, your lines need to be connected in this junction, however, is it overhead or underground in the street? Because it looks like there are surge protectors inside and that only exists on overhead lines, of course.
We see overhead cables mixed with underground cables.
Are you intrigued by the manholes in the last photo?
Indeed, it doesn't look like a PTT pull box, but maybe it was installed by the developer in private property back in the day and was subsequently transferred.
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yes, your lines need to be connected in this junction, however, is it overhead or underground in the street? Because it looks like there are surge protectors inside and that only exists on overhead lines, of course.
We see overhead cables mixed with underground cables.
Are you intrigued by the manholes in the last photo?
Indeed, it doesn't look like a PTT pull box, but maybe it was installed by the developer in private property back in the day and was subsequently transferred.
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and ... There you go!
Here is an aerial view of my street and the neighboring street. In one of the photos, the blue area = beginning of the housing development; red telecom pole.
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OK,
otherwise, what's the problem with the fiber installers?
they can't find the way to your house?
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otherwise, what's the problem with the fiber installers?
they can't find the way to your house?
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No, as I said, I would like to be sure that the technician's visit won't end up in a connection failure due to a buried junction box under I don't know how many cm of depth...
There you go!
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There you go!
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Given the configuration, it's not easy to say...
It's not impossible to get lucky.
In any case, the already installed fibers do not go through the phone box you showed, and if the existing PBO is located under the cement slabs you showed, you need to check that your conduit actually reaches there.
The entrance of the line at your place is buried, but you don't have an access point at the property line as it should be, right?
Is the street where those slabs are located public (municipality) or part of the co-ownership?
You can always invest in a good probe and check your connection.
It's not impossible to get lucky.
In any case, the already installed fibers do not go through the phone box you showed, and if the existing PBO is located under the cement slabs you showed, you need to check that your conduit actually reaches there.
The entrance of the line at your place is buried, but you don't have an access point at the property line as it should be, right?
Is the street where those slabs are located public (municipality) or part of the co-ownership?
You can always invest in a good probe and check your connection.
I quote: "the fibers already installed do not go through the phone box." If only for my 2 neighbors next to the terminal who are connected to the PBO in the room in front of my hedge (they must have drilled the terminal and created a new passage, as their conduit goes into the base of the EDF box). A little clarification, before there was no hedge, only a fence with a section in front of the slabs; the slabs no longer belong to the developer as they no longer exist...
Regarding the needle, I've thought about it, I'm planning to get a 20 m endoscopic camera, a slab lifter (as it's impossible to lift it by hand). Also, between my DTI (which was changed around 2001) and the slabs, there are about 15 meters.
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Regarding the needle, I've thought about it, I'm planning to get a 20 m endoscopic camera, a slab lifter (as it's impossible to lift it by hand). Also, between my DTI (which was changed around 2001) and the slabs, there are about 15 meters.
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arf,
when you quote, please copy and paste, it avoids adding spelling mistakes to the already present ones :-)
Did the neighbors' PTT ducts go into the EDF box?
The slabs no longer belong to the developer, of course, but either they are in co-ownership, or they have been transferred to the city.
The question is then:
the duct of your neighbors arrived at the telecom box and they redirected it to the buried box, is that right, they wouldn't be in the housing development?
So, you don't know if you're arriving under these slabs or directly at the box, do you have any other examples in the housing development?
Otherwise, sharpening the needle, indeed up to the property line, or up to the co-ownership limit would be a good idea and incidentally sharing the investigation with other interested owners.
It would be silly for everyone to redo in their corner what you have done.
when you quote, please copy and paste, it avoids adding spelling mistakes to the already present ones :-)
Did the neighbors' PTT ducts go into the EDF box?
The slabs no longer belong to the developer, of course, but either they are in co-ownership, or they have been transferred to the city.
The question is then:
the duct of your neighbors arrived at the telecom box and they redirected it to the buried box, is that right, they wouldn't be in the housing development?
So, you don't know if you're arriving under these slabs or directly at the box, do you have any other examples in the housing development?
Otherwise, sharpening the needle, indeed up to the property line, or up to the co-ownership limit would be a good idea and incidentally sharing the investigation with other interested owners.
It would be silly for everyone to redo in their corner what you have done.
Hello,
Sorry for the spelling mistakes in the quote ????. Let's start over, I don't know about the co-ownership, my neighbors (including the former mayor and the current mayor) have never mentioned co-ownership to me, so it’s more likely that the covers (tiles) belong to the town.
To answer your question, no, what makes my neighbors’ ducts are indeed in the telephone terminal which serves as the Concentration Point for the copper (PB), but the telephone terminal is connected with large PVC ducts that lead to other buried chambers including mine where the current PBO is located (I'll make you a diagram if you want), for other examples, wait until tonight because I am in class.
What you told me to conclude, to go share with my neighbors, I think it’s not a bad idea but pointless, they have all had fiber since 2018. I am one of the only residents of the village who doesn’t have fiber ????.
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Sorry for the spelling mistakes in the quote ????. Let's start over, I don't know about the co-ownership, my neighbors (including the former mayor and the current mayor) have never mentioned co-ownership to me, so it’s more likely that the covers (tiles) belong to the town.
To answer your question, no, what makes my neighbors’ ducts are indeed in the telephone terminal which serves as the Concentration Point for the copper (PB), but the telephone terminal is connected with large PVC ducts that lead to other buried chambers including mine where the current PBO is located (I'll make you a diagram if you want), for other examples, wait until tonight because I am in class.
What you told me to conclude, to go share with my neighbors, I think it’s not a bad idea but pointless, they have all had fiber since 2018. I am one of the only residents of the village who doesn’t have fiber ????.
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It's true that at times they must have come back 8 times!! For a house. After all, the worst would be a subcontracted technician who doesn't want to spend 1h doing the installation and leaves at the first obstacle!
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That's the risk, yes.
Maybe not wanting to, but especially not having the right, if there's a problem it'll escalate and go elsewhere...
When you're scheduled for 5 or 6 installations a day, you have no choice, you have to skim.
Still, he should start by asking his colleagues who know the area for information, if he doesn't have the correct plans.
Maybe not wanting to, but especially not having the right, if there's a problem it'll escalate and go elsewhere...
When you're scheduled for 5 or 6 installations a day, you have no choice, you have to skim.
Still, he should start by asking his colleagues who know the area for information, if he doesn't have the correct plans.