How to use a TV without a headphone jack?

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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   -  
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Hello, I just bought a TV with these ports (see image)
I want to connect headphones to the TV when I play PS4 at night. However, there is no headphone jack. What can I do??? Are there any adapters or something?? Thanks, it's urgent

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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105
 
Well, guys, I read all your messages and it cleared things up a bit for me on the subject. By the way, I'm even wondering if I should sell my TV to buy one with a headphone jack; it seems 100 times simpler. Unfortunately, manufacturers hardly put headphone outputs on TVs anymore, except for the high-end models. Why?!? I have no idea, but it's a damn shame (just like getting rid of the YUV port for those who love old VHS films; I have to buy a YUV to HDMI converter for that too, pfff...). So, to conclude, I'm going to test the adapter box that Andy31200 recommended for my wired headphones ( https://www.amazon.fr/Convertisseur-Analogique-Adaptateur-dAlimentation-dAluminium/dp/B06XHRYW2C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1526570340&sr=8-4&keywords=audio+dac&dpID=41XrYH43YXL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch%29. According to the comments here, this adapter with amplifier should allow me to use my wired headphones on my TV without any problems. Let's see when I can order it :)
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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105
 
And to summarize everyone's opinions, thanks to all the people who participated in this discussion, please let me know if you agree or disagree with the two boxes proposed by Andy31200 (one for wired headphones and the other for wireless).
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155 > nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
This casing is like the one I showed, it's just from another brand; if it comes from the same factory, then it's the same one for cheaper. I paid around €30 for it, so...

And whether it's for a wired or a wireless one, it doesn't change anything; it will work in both cases!

Otherwise, I don't know what you have with the Amazon links; they can be cited like this, no need for them to be 2x longer.

https://www.amazon.fr/Convertisseur-Analogique-Adaptateur-dAlimentation-dAluminium/dp/B06XHRYW2C

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700 > nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
They got tangled up from all the contradictions.

Summary of everything /

You were offered only two boxes, in the end.

Both serve to convert your optical output to a jack output.
Both are amplified (same) to produce sound.
Both can be used wired to connect your headphones.

The only difference is the price, since one comes with a volume control knob.
Will you find it useful?
Getting up to turn the knob (if it's not within reach)
Or it's not useful and you plan to adjust the sound directly on your console. (and save yourself the few euros difference)

There you go, 50 messages in one

;-) :-)
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155 > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention  
 
I quote:
Both are meant to convert your optical output to a jack output.
Both are amplified (the same) to have sound.
Both can be used with a wired connection to plug in your headphones.


Both are NOT amplified the same!
Both are NOT meant to connect headphones via wired connection; nowadays, we simply use jack & RCA for sound "Audio In" "Audio Out"!

Nothing to do with a headphone output!

I know this because I've had both, and it was with the one without the headphone amplifier that I had to buy the other one!

As for this story of "wireless" with its own amplification = Yes, but the amplification is made to work from a headphone output (with amplification) and not an "Audio Out" output!!!

Here's what I bought before that has an excellent reputation in the market

https://www.fiio.com/productinfo/379441.html

Except that it doesn't amplify for connecting headphones but just to have a stereo "audio out".
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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
Yes, I'm sure there are others from different brands, but since I'm not very demanding, I'll take the one that seems to me to be the best value for money. My main goal is to play at night with headphones and not directly on the TV speakers. I don't need it during the day :-D
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 197
 
Good evening,
Your TV has a digital optical output (Optical digital audio out on the far left)
Buy a DAC (= Digital to Analog Converter, in French Convertisseur de numérique à analogique)
https://www.amazon.fr/analogique-convertisseur-adaptateur-amplificateurs-dalimentation/dp/B00KNNSKV0/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1508597697&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=audio+dac&psc=1
Connect the supplied optical cable between the "Digital Optical" output of the TV and the DAC, the headphones to the headphone output of the DAC
For power, use a free USB port on the TV, otherwise buy a 220-> USB adapter:
https://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-Adaptateur-secteur-USB-Universel/dp/B004QH53QE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1484385180&sr=8-2&keywords=prise+220v+usb
Some configuration may be needed in the audio menu of the TV if it doesn’t work on the first try.
This setup does not automatically turn off the TV speakers

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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105
 
Okay, so if I understand correctly, I buy this box, I connect it with an optical cable to the optical port of my TV + I plug the headset into the box and it works?? But if it doesn't turn off the TV speakers, then it's actually useless.
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 197 > nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
Just lower the volume of the TV.
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155
 
Hello,
I would say to be cautious with this kind of solution, first regarding the USB consumption which, if too high, can damage the device, so make sure to check the connector's consumption, often 500mA while these devices require 1A, as well as the amplification; these are just converters, they are not meant to power headphones, but just to convert and provide a valid signal for an "Audio In" on an amp for example.

Delock offers a small DAC that serves as an amplifier with a volume knob, which is a whole different story.

So I had a DAC like the one suggested that I replaced with the Delock DAC with volume control, and it’s daylight and dark!

You will also need to secure this DAC well because it will move all the time once connected to the headphones via a cable.

Personally, I found a trick to add two small "legs" that I screwed to the TV cabinet, so it doesn't move anymore...
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 197 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
"It is not designed to power a headset, but just to convert and provide a valid signal for an "Audio In" of an amplifier for example"
Or a wireless headset that has its own amplification and connects to a line output
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AluMinioume Posted messages 3107 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   582
 
Hi,
Unless I'm mistaken... there's no headphone jack on the PS4 controller, is there?
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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105
 
Possible, but I just realized that my fingers are too big actually, it's ps3 that I wanted to write.
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 197
 
"With this box, it's as if I had a headphone jack directly on my TV; it's basically the same, right?"
Yes, but let's go back to it: "JeuneL" offers a DAC for wired headphones with a small headphone amplifier, and I don't quite agree with this solution since it risks saturating the input of your wireless headphones.
With the DAC proposed in my first response, the headphone volume is independent of the TV's speaker volume, which is very convenient when there is a hearing impaired family member with wireless headphones who doesn't want to deprive others of sound because TV headphone jacks cut off the speaker sound.
You will just need to lower your TV volume and adjust the volume on your headphones.

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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105
 
Alright, so there's no risk of damaging the device [...] etc... as JeuneL mentioned in his message this morning at 8:07 ??
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 197
 
No risk with the DAC I proposed, and I think "LejeuneL" misunderstood and/or doesn't quite master the subject, especially when he says:
"Yes, but in this case, it adds another box to connect, which is called a 'transmitter'."
If he's talking about the charging/transmitting base of a wireless headset, that's obvious and not "another box" since it's part of a wireless headset.
I call a spade a spade *
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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105
 
Well, I trust you. You seem more knowledgeable on this subject given your experience on the site. Otherwise, do I need to buy exactly the same case from the brand you linked, or was your link just an example and as long as I buy a DAC, it will work?
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155
 
Who wrote that Nicolopoliut had a wireless headset?

I haven't seen him write a single time that he had one.

The only thing I read is: "I want to connect a headset to the TV when I play on the PS4 at night. However, there is no headphone jack."

And what I propose is exactly what suits a wired headset and provides an amplification part to have enough power for a good "over-ear" headset (which covers the ears).

I also remind you that if the TV had a headphone output, it would also have an amplifier intended for a wired headset.

Some TVs have Bluetooth outputs, which avoids these DACs, headphone outputs, etc.

https://www.samsung.com/fr/support/tv-audio-video/comment-connecter-vos-ecouteurs-bluetooth-a-votre-tv-samsung/

So perhaps see if the TV can manage a wireless connection.
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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105
 
I didn't write wireless headphones because I simply don't have any. I was talking about a wired headset.
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155 > nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
So I don't know why Andy31200 kept talking about wireless headphones?!

What I suggested to you is the best possible option; before, I had one that didn't have a volume button and it clearly wasn't powerful enough to drive a good pair of headphones!

You have been warned.
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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
Yes, I believe he was convinced that I had a wireless headset. But in case I had a wireless headset, would your box also work? Because the one recommended by Andy31200 seems more suitable for a wireless headset. What do you think?
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155 > nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
There are 2 types of wireless headphones, headphones with a transmitter base, like a Sennheiser kit



And Bluetooth headphones.

In your case, the kit with the base would connect directly to a 3.5 mm headphone jack, so what I proposed would work very well, since it needs the headphone volume to output an equivalent sound

For the BT headphones, after what I proposed, you would need a small BT transmitter

There would be, in case you have a BT headphone, a complete box that would replace the one I proposed

https://www.amazon.fr/Adaptateur-TaoTronics-Transmetteur-dAutonomie-Instruments/dp/B01MUAJ5IW



So it's up to you to see what suits you.

^_^
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loftyramitsu Posted messages 43 Status Membre 1 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
Hello,
Otherwise, your television seems to have Bluetooth:


Maybe buying a BT headset would be a solution?
If you want to stick with your wired headset, an adapter will be necessary...
The one from JeuneL is expensive because it also serves for BT, but it wouldn't be useful for you since your TV already does that.
The one from andy31200 would be suitable if you want to keep your wired headset and is cheaper (it only has what you need on it)

So you have two options:
- buy a Bluetooth headset.
- buy an adapter.

Personally, I would buy the adapter, as it’s a bit of a waste to buy a second headset, but it’s up to you to see if a new headset would be useful to you.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700
 
Good evening,

Just out of curiosity, what is the exact model of the TV?
(if not already provided)

It's on a big label at the back. (photo if necessary)

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nicolopoliut Posted messages 84 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   105
 
Hi, the model of my TV is LG 43UJ701V. I have a friend who has a LG 55SM8200 and he has the same problem as me, no headphone jack.
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loftyramitsu Posted messages 43 Status Membre 1
 
Good evening to you,

Wouldn't the RCA jacks on the right not be working?
Maybe I'm mistaken, but using just an adapter cable wouldn't it be simpler? I don't see where there could be a problem?

https://www.amazon.fr/UGREEN-T%C3%A9l%C3%A9phone-Haut-Parleur-Enceinte-Amplificateur/dp/B00B2HP1FY/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=rca+jack+femelle&qid=1593370117&sr=8-4

more expensive but of better quality ...

https://www.amazon.fr/Wentronic-50092-C%C3%A2ble-0-2-m/dp/B002C2ZS2E/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=rca+jack+femelle&qid=1593370117&sr=8-3

Otherwise, you can find cables like that in most music stores, and I think it's time to support small businesses ;) ...
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700
 
look to the left of this line of socket >>>> in ;-)
it's not gonna work...
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loftyramitsu Posted messages 43 Status Membre 1 > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention  
 
Too bad,
it would have been too good.
(The photo is blurry so I didn't see it)
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155
 
A RCA to Jack adapter is useless, it’s not amplified!

The jack is now also used for "Line In / Line Out," but it cannot power a headset and provide enough power!
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loftyramitsu Posted messages 43 Status Membre 1 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
Anyway, they're "IN", so it can't work.
But a headset doesn't require much power...
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155 > loftyramitsu Posted messages 43 Status Membre
 
It's a common but false idea, especially at a time when we are using more and more "Over Ear" headphones... Then, depending on the impedance, you quickly need power.

When you see the price of a simple quality headphone amplifier for a quality headphone and imagine the few euros spent by a television brand for the "headphone output amplification" part, you can quickly imagine the difference in quality achieved.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700
 
Oh yes, with the reference we can be sure it doesn't have a headphone jack.
(I would have lost a small bet if I had wagered ;-) )

So what's your headphone reference???

So ... let's not complicate things

Message 1 proposal from Andy31200 /

Transforms digital sound into analog, basically your optical input becomes a jack.
Usage:
> it's the sound on the console that you'll have to adjust OR also play with the volume of the headset if it's equipped.
(a wired one can have integrated sound adjustment, which Andy was talking about, so it was indeed about wired and not wireless)
> TV on mute.

Comments from JeuneL

> the box also has an additional "volume" adjustment on the box.
> You'll have to get up to adjust it on the box or just use the sound level from the console and headset if equipped.
> Andy pointed out that the more we manipulate the sound (transformation + additional volume management), the greater the risk that it will alter the quality.
(risk, not necessarily a certainty)

Misunderstanding /

There was the use of words like "transmitter" which made one think that the other was talking about wireless. And the other says that the other is talking about wireless. While both indeed provide wired solutions.
You followed this ... no ... so that's why it's a misunderstanding :-))

The indicated boxes /

There are many brands at various prices.
More or less good, but we only know that when we try it :-)
No worries regarding power supply, USB TVs have often been around 1 A for several years, and if less it may not work, so you'll connect the USB power supply to your power strip.

Lots of models with different types of inputs or outputs.
Or even in and out.
So be careful about the type of IN to OUT connection.

Before buying, look, think about what you plan to connect to your TV.
Like making the right choice of output connection.

(the sound is already "amplified by default" by your console or TV depending on the setting, which has a sufficient level for a headset.)

That's all

In terms of budget, maybe don't invest too much if you plan to change equipment later (headset).
I took a budget option, optical in to coaxial out, for an old home theater, it did the job.
Anyway, a box that modifies the sound output doesn't provide a fantastic quality. (or a high-priced box but then you might as well buy a headset)
or
We might not know everything, if you have or plan an audio setup (home theater or sound bar) you might have a jack on it to plug in your headset.
or
Box in question, but directly on the PS3. I don't know the console, possible that it may be more or less practical depending if the volume settings are different from one source to another, for example. Like having a lower level on optical than on HDMI for the TV and that you don’t adjust it again after.
OR
Why not look at classifieds, sound bars (optical input, and jack output, don't be misled by a simple input. Even Bluetooth and jack output) Looked quickly, small prices exist, check inputs and outputs by asking for the exact model. If you don't like the sound of the TV, it will be double the benefit.
(in terms of small prices, we're not in the same country so I don't know the prices of used items where you are)
Or
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155
 
After that, there's the invested money, the experiences made and the conclusions to draw!

I bought a Philips receiver, then I bought a tiny transmitter/receiver box from brand X, then I bought an optical/coax to jack/RCA converter, and then I came across this Delock converter with headphone amplifier.

So 4 devices, which I tried in different directions, for different uses, and ultimately, Delock allows me to use a real high-quality "Over Ear" headset from the brand Beyerdynamic.

Power is important, the USB power supply may not be sufficient and may blow a fuse if the intended consumption was 500mA while the headphone amplifier consumes 1A.

So external power supply 220V -> 5V 1A + Optical Converter -> Jack with headphone amplifier = Guarantee of getting good sound!

Oh yes, detail, through optical you may only have stereo, but also 5.1 DTS or AC3 (Dolby Digital), so the converter only works on stereo, there may be no sound depending on what you are watching on the TV.

The Delock converts 5.1 without any problem.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
You never test enough of these types of products to really know.

For me, the even more basic thing for under 10 euros seems to have even come with a power adapter.
So, no need to search and just plug it into the power strip.
In terms of sound, no problem, no matter the format, it depends on the settings made on the devices, on which you adjust the sound interpretation. (the console or TV that will interpret the signal, behind that it just emits a sound that has already been transformed. Okay, this is a basic headset, it won’t do any correction or emulation)
But yes, better quality, higher price, just knowing whether it’s really useful for the person or not.
And I had added something to my previous message (while you must have been writing yours), also with a possible idea of a secondhand soundbar.
Many possibilities, depending on what you have on hand, budget, future needs/wants, or future equipment in perspective that won’t require the use of the box anymore...
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155 > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention  
 
With flat-screen TVs, I don't understand how manufacturers continue to equip them with speakers?!

The sound comes out from behind the TV, so it makes no sense; therefore, yes, a soundbar can be a serious plus!

As for power adapters, I believe we’ve seen that there’s a serious risk in using stuff from who-knows-where at too low prices! It would be a shame to burn down your apartment for a saving of 2-3€!

And I wouldn't want to add to it with all the existing BT versions that can radically influence sound quality.

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
power adapters
It's not a problem with this little thing, even if they're not provided, we often have some sitting in the back of drawers, coming from an old phone, or a USB charger, or a tablet or ... just need to read it, if it's 1 A or more it's good, it only supplies what the connected device needs.

If it's a bar, I repeat, be careful that the jack is an output and not an input, otherwise it's the same problem.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700
 
Moreover, in line with message 33 https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-36729894-tele-sans-prise-casque-comment-faire#33
, if we can make do with what we have on hand, or an alternative:

> TV "Compatible with Bluetooth Speaker"
> If you have a portable Bluetooth speaker lying around at home.
(same if it has a jack output and not just a simple input. I'm not sure whether jack outputs exist on these small speakers, it's rare or doesn't exist.)

I don't know if it's possible... but can't you pair this kind of small speaker with the TV?

(If yes, your headset connected to its jack, you place it closer to you, it gives you more wires to move, you adjust the sound partly from your speaker next to you)

After that, I'll stop... I'm straying too far (providing food for thought) :-)))

Otherwise, it could be a Bluetooth speaker without a jack output that just has a faulty internal speaker, we desolder it and put a jack connector in place of the speaker. We'll see if it works and thus becomes a jack receiver. :-)

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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155
 
But I think he wants to play with the headset in the evening, probably so as not to make any noise!
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700 > JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
As said by others, sometimes it tests you, and you are very fiery JuneL, you go in head down and send a lot of messages that are not always useful like this last one. ;-)

If you read entirely, understand the idea,
I'm talking about Bluetooth speakers that we may already have at home. (no cost)
One that would have a headphone output (I don’t really know if that exists on these devices)
So the Bluetooth speaker would only serve as a "relay" to plug in your headphones.

Well in the idea """ play with headphones in the evening, probably to avoid making noise! """
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155 > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention  
 
In general, when a Bluetooth speaker has a jack input, it's for sound input, and I don't think I've seen one for output.

But it would indeed be a good idea, especially since the amplifier is already present; we could use a good resistor to lower the power while the switch in the jack connector would cut the output to the speaker.

Let's see if it exists.

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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 197
 
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Hello.
I see quite a few interesting but mostly unnecessary suggestions here.
This TV is BLUETOOTH!!!
Buy a Bluetooth headset or earbuds for just a few bucks and you'll solve your problem.
No need to set up a complicated system behind your TV...
If you have BT earbuds for your phone, that works too. The problem is already solved.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700
 
Absolutely...

Direct purchase of an entry-level headset with a transmitter base with optical input OR direct Bluetooth.

Or if the person wants a high-end headset (at 200 or more) but doesn't have the budget yet, they should get the cheapest box for temporary use.
(while saving up)

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The story behind the box is more appropriate for expensive equipment behind it, like an old home theater system that you want to use because it's too expensive to buy. Here, a headset won't cost too much.
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155
 
And he who said last that he was thinking of returning his new TV!

^_^

You're right Torquemada, but a good headset for gaming isn't cheap, a BT headset has a major drawback: it runs on battery, and if you go into a long gaming session, you'll have to stop to charge your headset.

Hence the consumption of wired headsets by most gamers!

Moreover, a very good headset = 80ohm with good membranes, consumes a lot of energy, so in BT, headsets of comparable quality are hard to find.

Another point for wired.

I bought a really good BT headset for €400, it can:
1- Operate in BT
2- Be plugged in with a jack in wired mode, but for that the battery has to be completely drained
3- Be connected via USB and the amplification part turns into a DAC + headphone amplifier

Well, it’s not as good as a €150 wired studio headset (it's one of the most commonly seen headsets on radio shows).

So, in summary, the little optical adapter -> Jack + Headphone amplifier + volume knob = Remains the best solution!

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 700
 
But stop ....

1 message to indicate and argue your solution
(which is actually just one product because you have it at home and have tested it and it works really well FOR YOU and YOUR USE)

2 messages to reaffirm that your solution is the best for you.

And that's it, that's enough. ;-)

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Now you're up to 20 messages contradicting everything and bringing your solution based on a product that you idolize :-)

The requester may have other wants/needs/expectations than you, like wanting wireless and not caring about quality, or wanting a lower price even if it might mean lower quality... we don't know because we're not in their shoes.

20 messages contradicting and reaffirming your own solution is imposing it, not suggesting it. Harassment :-)

It really makes the topic unpalatable for the requester (for everyone actually), who might just think they've stumbled into a bunch of crazies and will definitely not understand anything anymore.
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Torquemada
 
I agree!
For €50, you can get in-ear TV headphones like the Skullcandy Ink'd at Darty (free advertisement), and you get over 8 hours of battery life thanks to the neckband.
And having bought them for my wife, I can guarantee that the sound quality and comfort are great.
But if you want spaghetti behind your TV, that's up to you.
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JeuneL Posted messages 1873 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   155
 
The problem comes from the stubbornness that started here

https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-36729894-tele-sans-prise-casque-comment-faire#8

Which introduces a story about wireless headphones that continues here

https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-36729894-tele-sans-prise-casque-comment-faire#13

And so on.

You talk about my experience, but what is yours with these converters and headphones?

There you are speculating on the needs of a person who isn't even replying anymore while you know that the second solution includes the first and ensures a good audio headset's power supply just like a simple model...

Whereas the first solution might be too tight and will require a second purchase if it doesn't work.

In short, indeed it speculates, it criticizes, and it doesn't advance even though the solution has been clearly given, shown in images, explained, and compared.

If the person had a headphone output on their TV, this discussion wouldn't have started, and what would a headphone output on a TV be, the first or the second solution proposed?

The second and you know it perfectly.
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