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Unable to remove UEFI BIOS at startup

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Vivianissime Posted messages 4 Status Member -
Hello everyone, I'm reaching out after trying everything. My PC, which I received four days ago, only starts in UEFI mode, no matter what I do. I've already disabled secure boot, tried CSM auto/active/disabled, and almost all the BIOS options, reinstalled Windows 10, and followed all the suggestions on various sites and forums. I have Windows Boot Manager set as the first boot option (followed by the name of my HDD). The only way to get Windows running is to force it by simply clicking on Windows Boot Manager, but the problem is that when I do this, I can't update Windows, which prevents my graphics card from functioning because it needs the latest driver available with the Windows update. I want to clarify that my HDD does not work as the first boot option; even when I try to force it, it just goes back to the boot settings, yet the hard drive works perfectly. No matter what I do, I'm not sure if it could be a hardware issue or something else. I've already done all the settings like CLR_cmos reset, etc. I want to emphasize that when I force it by clicking on Windows Boot, everything works fine.
My configuration: I5 7600K
GPU: GTX 1070 ti, but it needs the update to be detected
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus VIII RANGER
Power supply: Cooler Master 650w
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB, GPT partition
If you have a miracle solution, please!

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  1.
    flo88 Posted messages 28484 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassadeur 5 168
     
    Yes, it is normal if the HDD is in GPT, the booting must be done in UEFI necessarily, otherwise it needs to be set to NTFS.
    Note that a Maximus VIII is in any case natively UEFI.

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    1. Warfreaz
       
      How to format it to NTFS please?
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    2. Warfreaz
       
      And thank you for your response.
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    3. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      Hi, I don't understand why you want to change the UEFI mode?
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    4. Warfreaz
       
      My PC boots directly into the UEFI BIOS and not Windows, and I have to force it to boot into Windows. I just checked the file system of my disk and it's NTFS.
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    5. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      You mean that when you turn on your PC, you go directly to the BIOS?
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  2. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
     

    Are you properly connecting your hard drive to the port marked in red?
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    1. Warfreaz
       
      Yes
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    2. Warfreaz
       
      I reset the settings to default. We'll see with the installation, but the CSM has reverted to legacy.
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    3. flo88 Posted messages 28484 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 168
       
      And if it doesn't work, you will move the HDD to a SATA Express to see.
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    4. Warfreaz
       
      And if I put it on SATA Express, should I set it to RAID mode?
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    5. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      leave it on your normal sata
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  3. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
     
    boot your USB drive in UEFI and install Windows 10 on your disk
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  4. gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 702
     
    Good evening!

    "My disk is simple to see; I set the ROM option to UEFI and legacy only, and then I see it, but when I set it to UEFI only, I don't see it. I only see Windows Boot Manager. However, my disk is GPT and NTFS, but I can only launch Windows Boot Manager (disk name) by clicking on the hard drive, but Windows is inaccessible from the normal hard drive."

    Incomprehensible....
    I hope you installed Windows 10 the first time with the BIOS set to UEFI.
    The installation must have installed Windows 10 by formatting your hard drive to GPT with NTFS file system.
    It’s automatic.
    And finally, everything is fine.

    Keep your BIOS set to UEFI.

    Then you must have had a boot into the BIOS instead of directly launching Windows.

    Boot order:
    Windows Boot Manager (disk name), it's normal; that means the PC will launch Windows first, which is on disk xxx.

    It's probably a completely different option in the BIOS to activate or deactivate to avoid going through the BIOS at startup.
    Find it; check on your side if there’s a line that could correspond to that kind of option, but don’t touch anything before telling me what it says.
    I’ll check on my side in parallel.

    And it has nothing to do with UEFI if you have update issues.
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    1. Warfreaz
       
      It's understandable when you know the BIOS. Is that what it says? If I do a clr_mos to reset the BIOS to default settings, can I do it? And I will check the BIOS thoroughly; I'll let you know tomorrow if you come back to this forum. Thank you for your help, even though I think I've already done everything.
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    2. gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 702
       
      What you are doing is incomprehensible.

      "It's understandable when you know the BIOS
      If you imply that I don’t know anything, I don't think I'll bother looking, but I don't think that's what you meant and that you're just a little annoyed.

      I'm saying you need to leave your BIOS in UEFI.
      Then do a normal installation of Windows 10.
      After UEFI, we don't touch it anymore.

      And if instead of booting directly into Windows, you end up at the boot choice with Windows Boot Manager (disk name) and clicking on it launches Windows.
      That indicates that the Windows installation is okay.
      We don't touch anything else (leave UEFI).

      Your issue comes from elsewhere if each time it brings you back to the boot choice instead of launching Windows directly.
      Another parameter in the BIOS.
      Or
      > after researching the unstable BIOS version of the motherboard
      or
      > an update for issues with certain Intel CPUs

      Don't do anything for now, before I would like to know what processor you have installed?
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    3. Warfreaz
       
      Of course I'm annoyed, I've spent more than 24 hours looking for this, but I wasn't saying you don't know anything; you probably know more than I do. I just meant that depending on the BIOS of the different brands like Asus or MSI, it can change. At least I understood what I was writing, that's why.
      I'm going to sleep; I'll let you know tomorrow if you come back here.
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    4. Warfreaz
       
      I have an i5 7600k processor that required a BIOS update for compatibility with Kaby Lake processors, but since you're mentioning the BIOS update... I'll see.
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    5. gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 702
       
      Yes, you understand, but not being on the PC makes it complicated to understand you.
      Write and connect as if you knew nothing about the PC, you’ll see that you’re perhaps not clear enough.
      Simply because you indicate the issue while mixing it with the attempts at solutions you have tried.

      Be neutral, just state how you installed Windows and the issue that would have arisen afterward.
      ;-)
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  6. gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 702
     
    Before searching too much with my previous message (which we'll leave aside for now)

    I saw that you said you have the 10240 install of Windows 10.
    That corresponds to the first version released.

    I don't know what medium you're using to have this old version of Windows.

    And from now on, don't mention legacy, inherited, CSM, or anything else.
    A Windows 10 (even since W7) installs normally on a UEFI BIOS, so if there's a problem, that's not where it lies ;-)

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    Let's start fresh by installing the latest version of Windows 10.

    Good to know:
    By creating a USB installation drive with the tool provided on the Microsoft site, you will directly get the very latest version of Windows 10.

    So go to this page:
    https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/software-download/windows10
    Click on:
    Download the tool now

    Run it and follow the instructions to create your installation USB drive.

    In parallel, make sure to reset your BIOS to default on your new PC (in UEFI)

    Once your USB drive is made.
    Plug it into the problematic PC (make sure to reset the BIOS to default first, it should be in UEFI)
    Start your PC

    Reinstall by formatting to make sure it's clean.

    You will see that you will be on the latest version of Windows 10.

    And maybe no more issues.
    If there are issues, we will almost be sure that it doesn't come from the Windows installation. 
    After finding a solution, remember to mark it as SOLVED.        
    Also, giving feedback from your side is always nice towards those who helped you.    THANK YOU !!! :-)
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    1. Warfreaz
       
      Thank you, I will try, but regarding the BIOS, should I set it to UEFI mode or another mode? When I set it to UEFI, the resolution is bad. Should I enable secure boot?
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    2. Warfreaz
       
      Secure boot ? *
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    3. Warfreaz
       
      For the installation, I'm not sure whether to use flash or iso; it says on iso that I need to have a CD.
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    4. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      You leave your BIOS at default, you don't touch anything.
      You leave it in UEFI.
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    5. flo88 Posted messages 28484 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 168
       
      Which SATA port is your HDD connected to?
      If it's connected to a SATAexpress, you need to switch the Intel controller to "RAID" (in the UEFI), this is a feature from Asus on certain motherboards.
      And as mentioned earlier, take the latest version of Windows 10, keep the UEFI in UEFI mode (and let's stop talking about BIOS, it no longer exists).
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  7. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
     
    Yes, you reset to default
    and you don't touch anything else.
    Did you download the Windows 10 ISO?
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  8. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
     
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    1. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      And below is the order of the boots.
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    2. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      And now it's impossible to change the BIOS to French.
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  9. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
     
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    1. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      your boot is fine.
      start from your key
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    2. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      Should I leave everything as it is in the photos?
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    3. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      yes, start on your USB drive and take a screenshot.
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    4. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      These aren't the default settings, they were changed.
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    5. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      By default, what does it change for you?
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  10. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
     
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    1. gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 702
       
      Nothing on this PC, brand new build,
      so I would format the disk
      , recreate a total partition size (if not done automatically)
      Then I would install.

      Just to make sure it's as clean as possible.
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    2. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      remove all partitions to have only one at the end and install
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    3. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      So I install it by formatting?
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    4. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      I deleted all the partitions, but there is one with space that cannot be deleted.
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    5. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      And I have a message saying we were unable to create a partition or locate an existing partition.
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  11. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
     
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    1. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      I can't create anew.
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    2. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      I can create a new partition only in the unallocated space with 565 MB.
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    3. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      why are you creating a 565MB partition?
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    4. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      This is what they put by default, but even if I create it, I can't start the installation.
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    5. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      logically, you delete all partitions to have just one unallocated disk space.
      in your case, it should be about 931GB. Then you click Next.
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  12. gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 702
     
    press Shift+F10 to open the command prompt.
    The Shift key is the big arrow

    In the command prompt, type DISKPART and press Enter.

    ----------------------------
    You arrive at DISKPART

    Then type and press Enter the following commands (one after the other)

    LIST DISK
    Explanation:
    This displays the disks you have if your PC has multiple ones.
    (Tell me their size if there are multiple and you are unsure)

    SELECT DISK disk number
    Explanation:
    Here you type the command SELECT DISK with the disk number, but you should only have one so ...

    CLEAN
    Explanation:
    This erases everything on the selected disk

    CONVERT GPT
    Explanation:
    This converts the selected disk to GPT (from MBR to GPT just in case)



    It should indicate something like "successfully converted ..."
    if this is the case, you are good.
    To exit this window, type:

    EXIT

    --------------------------------------
    You find yourself back at the installation

    Close the alert message if still present.

    You are at the screen where there are your partitions.

    Find and click on Refresh.

    Then you should see a single partition that should be the total size of your disk

    Tell me what you have at that moment, before continuing the installation

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    1. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      I don't see any disks, just texts and commands.
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    2. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      No disk is displayed, only the available commands.
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    3. gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 702
       
      After LIST DISK and pressing Enter, you have no disks appearing?
      ( disk 0 being the first one and it should be around 1 TB in your case )
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    4. Warfreaz Posted messages 39 Status Member
       
      I've managed to see the disks; I have two, one is 931 GB and the other is 1.76 TB.
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    5. raspey Posted messages 9414 Status Member 249
       
      0 it's your hard drive
      1 your USB key
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  13. Vivianissime Posted messages 4 Status Member
     
    Morality: you have a lot less hassle with Linux!.. except that installing Ubuntu 18.04 is a huge pain because of UEFI, which reboots by itself.
    My troubles came from an original Win 8.1 that was forced on me against my will.
    It's really a nuisance Win 8.1 and UEFI; who is the cohort of complete idiots responsible for such junk?
    The only solution I could find was to connect a hard drive containing Win7 (in BIOS mode, therefore disabling UEFI).
    Of course, I had to connect a USB WiFi card to access the web and update the drivers with Driver Booster.
    At least now it works.
    Installing Ubuntu 16.04 alongside is then straightforward.
    I only use Win$ when I have no other choice; serious work is done much better on Linux.
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