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Hello,
I don't often ask questions, but for once here is mine:
I bought a 2-in-1 laptop, Lenovo Yoga 13 Pro, Intel M5, 8 GB RAM, SSD 256 on which I upgraded from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 version 1607. I would like to boot from a USB stick to display and try a Linux distro.
But here's the thing, I have a BIOS/UEFI!
I entered the BIOS as I have always done until now, but I can't set USB as the first option in the boot sequence. Secure Boot is enabled as well as UEFI.
If someone has a similar model, I would appreciate a solution, thank you.
Best regards
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I don't often ask questions, but for once here is mine:
I bought a 2-in-1 laptop, Lenovo Yoga 13 Pro, Intel M5, 8 GB RAM, SSD 256 on which I upgraded from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 version 1607. I would like to boot from a USB stick to display and try a Linux distro.
But here's the thing, I have a BIOS/UEFI!
I entered the BIOS as I have always done until now, but I can't set USB as the first option in the boot sequence. Secure Boot is enabled as well as UEFI.
If someone has a similar model, I would appreciate a solution, thank you.
Best regards
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3 things to respond to all this.
1. Phil2k is not wrong. Rufus tends to format oddly in NTFS, while we requested FAT32 due to UEFI. Unetbootin works one time out of two. So, my question was justified.
2. I can't believe that you, jns55, are suggesting disabling secure boot when you know, like I do, that Ubuntu versions have had a recognized signature since at least 14.04.
3. The requester "knows" what needs to be done and looks down on people. Meanwhile, he is not asking for help and is managing on his own.
1. Phil2k is not wrong. Rufus tends to format oddly in NTFS, while we requested FAT32 due to UEFI. Unetbootin works one time out of two. So, my question was justified.
2. I can't believe that you, jns55, are suggesting disabling secure boot when you know, like I do, that Ubuntu versions have had a recognized signature since at least 14.04.
3. The requester "knows" what needs to be done and looks down on people. Meanwhile, he is not asking for help and is managing on his own.
Hello,
"Creating a bootable key is different if it is intended for UEFI booting or not ....."
Where did you see that? The same USB key can be used in both EFI mode and legacy mode; it's the booting method that changes: in the boot menu, you need to choose the option that allows booting in EFI mode, otherwise it will boot in legacy mode.
To return to the initial question: start by disabling secure boot, if your Linux distribution does not have a recognized signature (but that may not be enough...
"Creating a bootable key is different if it is intended for UEFI booting or not ....."
Where did you see that? The same USB key can be used in both EFI mode and legacy mode; it's the booting method that changes: in the boot menu, you need to choose the option that allows booting in EFI mode, otherwise it will boot in legacy mode.
To return to the initial question: start by disabling secure boot, if your Linux distribution does not have a recognized signature (but that may not be enough...
The same USB key can be used in both EFI mode and legacy mode
That is not correct.
Depending on how the USB key is created, it will boot in UEFI or not.
Furthermore, some Linux distributions do not allow booting in UEFI
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/uefi?redirect=1#versions_d_ubuntu_amorcables_en_mode_efi
That is not correct.
Depending on how the USB key is created, it will boot in UEFI or not.
Furthermore, some Linux distributions do not allow booting in UEFI
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/uefi?redirect=1#versions_d_ubuntu_amorcables_en_mode_efi
Hello everyone,
I'm coming back to my boot question. I created a bootable USB stick of 7 GB on which I placed Voyager 16.04 LTS using the LiliUsbCreateur software. I also tried with Rufus.
But here it is, I still can't boot from this USB stick at the Windows 10 startup. In the BIOS, I have no option to change the boot order, only Enabled and Disabled.
What should I do?
I'm coming back to my boot question. I created a bootable USB stick of 7 GB on which I placed Voyager 16.04 LTS using the LiliUsbCreateur software. I also tried with Rufus.
But here it is, I still can't boot from this USB stick at the Windows 10 startup. In the BIOS, I have no option to change the boot order, only Enabled and Disabled.
What should I do?
I doubt that Voyager has a signature recognized by secure boot... In that case, you need to disable secure boot
Instead of trying to modify the boot order in UEFI, go through the UEFI boot menu by pressing the key briefly indicated on the screen during power on.
Is it indeed a 64-bit version that you downloaded?
There are many BIOSes that are restricted, which prevents access to certain options
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/liste_portables_lenovo
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/lenovo_yoga_13
Instead of trying to modify the boot order in UEFI, go through the UEFI boot menu by pressing the key briefly indicated on the screen during power on.
Is it indeed a 64-bit version that you downloaded?
There are many BIOSes that are restricted, which prevents access to certain options
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/liste_portables_lenovo
https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/lenovo_yoga_13
Disable secure-boot if you want... It won't affect functionality, anyway.
As I mentioned earlier, we do 2 tests (to which I add 2 other options):
1. We try to reboot from the USB key using the advanced boot menu of W10. The USB key should be offered as a bootable device.
2. We test another USB key. This is often the cause of the problem. Some keys are not recognized by certain BIOS, oddly enough.
Confirmed here:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-13-USB-boot/td-p/1244523
3. We can finally use the one key button (special button or F12). If the key is recognized, it will appear.
4. We go through a DVD, external if necessary.
As for the BIOS, some UEFI are locked by the manufacturer. On others, you need to enable the CSM option to boot from a USB key. On some, you need to set Other systems or old systems to enabled...
Nothing more to add.
As I mentioned earlier, we do 2 tests (to which I add 2 other options):
1. We try to reboot from the USB key using the advanced boot menu of W10. The USB key should be offered as a bootable device.
2. We test another USB key. This is often the cause of the problem. Some keys are not recognized by certain BIOS, oddly enough.
Confirmed here:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Yoga-13-USB-boot/td-p/1244523
3. We can finally use the one key button (special button or F12). If the key is recognized, it will appear.
4. We go through a DVD, external if necessary.
As for the BIOS, some UEFI are locked by the manufacturer. On others, you need to enable the CSM option to boot from a USB key. On some, you need to set Other systems or old systems to enabled...
Nothing more to add.
Thank you Andromede and jns55, I will test what you told me. I will return to the site as soon as I can. Since I have 5 PCs, one of which is 64-bit, I just realized that I had mixed up the various 32 and 64-bit ISOs stored on my external drive. Maybe I put a 32-bit ISO instead of a 64-bit ISO.
My bad! I will try again as soon as I can.
My bad! I will try again as soon as I can.
I just "made" a USB key with Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit. I booted on the Lenovo PC using the tiny button next to the power button. There it worked because it offered me the boot option for the USB key. However, for certain distros, particularly mini-Linuxes, it doesn't work; maybe I need to disable secure boot. We'll see, I haven't tried that.
Thanks again, it's resolved.
Thanks again, it's resolved.
Hi
just for info, out of curiosity,
I created a USB key in FAT32, copied Voyager 16.04 onto it, Secure Boot enabled, restarted the PC, and it boots fine in UEFI, no issues (in 64 bits, of course)
it's been a while since I tried an Ubuntu, I'm on live now, it hasn't changed, I find my bearings right away, quite pleasant ^^
keep it up
just for info, out of curiosity,
I created a USB key in FAT32, copied Voyager 16.04 onto it, Secure Boot enabled, restarted the PC, and it boots fine in UEFI, no issues (in 64 bits, of course)
it's been a while since I tried an Ubuntu, I'm on live now, it hasn't changed, I find my bearings right away, quite pleasant ^^
keep it up
hello.
on the other hand, secure boot and UEFI are problematic (particularly for me) on a Debian Jessie for example, it only works in legacy mode.
same with Manjaro, just in legacy.
same with Fedora.
but everything that runs on Ubuntu works perfectly.
for proof.
triple boot
Mint Cinnamon
Cubuntu Mate
and Ubuntu
and it runs perfectly
I wanted to try Kubuntu, but I'm having persistent graphics issues, haven't found solutions yet..
even KDE crashes when I install it on Ubuntu....
that's my little experience as a new Linux user
on the other hand, secure boot and UEFI are problematic (particularly for me) on a Debian Jessie for example, it only works in legacy mode.
same with Manjaro, just in legacy.
same with Fedora.
but everything that runs on Ubuntu works perfectly.
for proof.
triple boot
Mint Cinnamon
Cubuntu Mate
and Ubuntu
and it runs perfectly
I wanted to try Kubuntu, but I'm having persistent graphics issues, haven't found solutions yet..
even KDE crashes when I install it on Ubuntu....
that's my little experience as a new Linux user
Hi,
I confirm that installing Debian in UEFI is not easy. Despite the Debian website. But it can be done, the same goes for Fedora.... I still have some tutorials lying around on ccm...
I confirm that installing Debian in UEFI is not easy. Despite the Debian website. But it can be done, the same goes for Fedora.... I still have some tutorials lying around on ccm...
Debian has the same flaw as Fedora. The automatic installation creates an additional EFI partition that causes chaos and tends to crash Windows.
http://debian-facile.org/doc:install:uefi
Instead, you should use the existing EFI partition and assign it the mount point /boot/efi. This way, GRUB will be added to the Windows boot files.
If the PC is not pre-programmed to boot from bootmgr (like Toshiba or HP), it should boot, even with secure boot.
http://debian-facile.org/doc:install:uefi
Instead, you should use the existing EFI partition and assign it the mount point /boot/efi. This way, GRUB will be added to the Windows boot files.
If the PC is not pre-programmed to boot from bootmgr (like Toshiba or HP), it should boot, even with secure boot.
I never choose the automatic installation.
But the manual one, so I can manage it myself..
But with Debian, I can't even boot my USB stick, which was booting a month ago..
So good luck figuring out what's going on..
My goal would be to do
mint
ubuntu
debian or fedora
and Windows on my second SSD safely.
But for that, I first need to be able to boot from my USB, even after trying it 1,000 times, it gets stuck..
But the manual one, so I can manage it myself..
But with Debian, I can't even boot my USB stick, which was booting a month ago..
So good luck figuring out what's going on..
My goal would be to do
mint
ubuntu
debian or fedora
and Windows on my second SSD safely.
But for that, I first need to be able to boot from my USB, even after trying it 1,000 times, it gets stuck..
Let’s add that what you say about the 32-bit version is not accurate either. Maxire, to quote him, posted a tutorial on the Ubuntu forum last year explaining how to install a 32-bit Ubuntu in UEFI.
https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=18424201#p18424201
Moreover, many low-end tablets use a 32-bit W8 or W10 in UEFI.
I quote myself:
"start by disabling secure boot, if your Linux distribution does not have a recognized signature" because nothing indicates that Jedi08 wants to install Ubuntu. The discussion deviated to Ubuntu following phil2k's intervention.
It is understood that the key must be formatted in FAT32 for it to boot, even though it is possible to install the Linux distribution on a key in another format.
As for UNetbootin, I use it almost exclusively and I have rarely had issues with it (once with an exotic distro).
Secure boot will never prevent the USB drive from booting. It will prevent the system present on the USB drive from launching, which is different.
If a USB drive does not boot in UEFI, regardless of the OS, it is either poorly made or a BIOS option prevents booting from an external device.
Moreover, Lenovo devices have a key or key combination called "one key" that provides access to additional boot options. Finally, an advanced restart of W8/W10 offers a devices tab that should allow booting from the drive if it’s properly made. If needed, we can test another drive. A topic like this is resolved this way one out of three times on the Ubuntu forum.