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Hello,
I just finished my manuscript and I have several publishers who want to publish me, but I don't know which one to choose. I'm afraid of being scammed by the contracts they are offering me. Here is the list of publishers who want to publish me:
- Editions Beaurepaire
- Editions Publibook
- Editions Thélés
- Editions Panthéon
- Editions Bénévent
- Editions Editer-Livre.com
- Editions Praelego
Do you have any information about these publishers and know which one I can trust? Which of these publishers is the most reliable for my publication? Thank you for your response, and have a good weekend.
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I just finished my manuscript and I have several publishers who want to publish me, but I don't know which one to choose. I'm afraid of being scammed by the contracts they are offering me. Here is the list of publishers who want to publish me:
- Editions Beaurepaire
- Editions Publibook
- Editions Thélés
- Editions Panthéon
- Editions Bénévent
- Editions Editer-Livre.com
- Editions Praelego
Do you have any information about these publishers and know which one I can trust? Which of these publishers is the most reliable for my publication? Thank you for your response, and have a good weekend.
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Hello everyone,
I am the manager of a small family printing and communication business. For a few years now, I have been offering my friends the printing and finishing of their self-published works in small quantities of 50 to 500 copies.
They take care of the distribution themselves, while I handle the legal deposit and the ISBN number, as I have my own "publisher" account.
I print almost every format, and the square-back glued binding of great quality is done in-house by us.
For all these reasons, I would like to offer my services to any author wishing to print in limited quantities to get known. Our prices are very competitive, and we do not charge any additional fees other than those related to printing.
Kind regards
Nathan
I am the manager of a small family printing and communication business. For a few years now, I have been offering my friends the printing and finishing of their self-published works in small quantities of 50 to 500 copies.
They take care of the distribution themselves, while I handle the legal deposit and the ISBN number, as I have my own "publisher" account.
I print almost every format, and the square-back glued binding of great quality is done in-house by us.
For all these reasons, I would like to offer my services to any author wishing to print in limited quantities to get known. Our prices are very competitive, and we do not charge any additional fees other than those related to printing.
Kind regards
Nathan
For my part, I recommend Beaurepaire editions. Like you, I just finished a novel that I sent to numerous publishing houses. Like you, I received several positive feedbacks and contract proposals. After thoroughly searching the internet and sometimes meeting the editors themselves, I chose to turn to Beaurepaire editions. For me, it is the most serious (self-publishing) publishing house. No blah blah, I know where I'm going. They do not offer to promote your book in the press, for example, but among all those you mentioned, which one really does? Moreover, Beaurepaire editions offer the best quality/price ratio. (I receive 100 books for 1500 euros + proofreading, layout, FNAC and Google listings)... etc. etc. Also, if it can help you and even if it’s totally subjective, the contact I had with the person managing the company is very familial and respectful. You can feel the professionalism... There you go... Compared to the other houses you mentioned, I can only recommend avoiding Benevents, Theles, Publibook due to the exorbitant prices they charge, the many people who have been taken in (just look online) and the few contacts I had with them... Also, when you receive a letter saying: "We are happy to inform you that your manuscript has been accepted" without any further explanation, it’s hard to believe it was really read... I thought for a good two months before choosing Beaurepaire and I had the same questions as you.... My opinion is subjective but I hope it can help you..... :)
Hi,
My manuscript consists of fantasy, imagination, and a real world. I plan to self-publish it at the beginning of next year; I’m just waiting for the sketch to start the publishing process, and then we'll see if the public appreciates it. My mother is taking care of the sales arrangements because, being in the military, I go to sea regularly and for long periods, so I can’t handle it myself. Thank you for your emails, and maybe see you soon.
My manuscript consists of fantasy, imagination, and a real world. I plan to self-publish it at the beginning of next year; I’m just waiting for the sketch to start the publishing process, and then we'll see if the public appreciates it. My mother is taking care of the sales arrangements because, being in the military, I go to sea regularly and for long periods, so I can’t handle it myself. Thank you for your emails, and maybe see you soon.
Whatever the case, if you are asked to pay to be published, it’s a scam!!! Any reputable publishing house will cover all publishing costs. If you're being asked to pay, it's a vanity publisher that is only interested in your money!
Don’t hesitate to look at small publishing houses that operate on a traditional model.
If you really can't find a suitable option, try self-publishing. Despite the bad reputation of this system, it’s much more credible than vanity presses.
After that, don’t expect instant success right away, but with perseverance, you will be noticed.
I’ll say it again: A vanity publishing house is a pure and simple scam. Never sign if you're asked to pay!!!
Don’t hesitate to look at small publishing houses that operate on a traditional model.
If you really can't find a suitable option, try self-publishing. Despite the bad reputation of this system, it’s much more credible than vanity presses.
After that, don’t expect instant success right away, but with perseverance, you will be noticed.
I’ll say it again: A vanity publishing house is a pure and simple scam. Never sign if you're asked to pay!!!
Yes, it's not easy to navigate through all these publishing houses. I myself am looking for a serious publishing house to publish my thriller. After checking around, I think like Propagawa that I will turn to Beaurepaire Editions. They indeed have the best quality/price ratio and I have only heard good things about them, unlike other publishers.
I think you are novices when it comes to novel publishers. Once again, a true author should not have to pay any € to see their work published. It should be known that in publishing jargon, less talented authors are welcomed because they support the royalties of those who share the literary market; they are nicknamed "THE SWEET PEARS." A bit of seriousness, finally; how can you believe that your work is a bestseller or anything else when you pay to achieve your dream? Because that's really about a dream you’re talking about. Come on, keep it up! Be realistic; you don’t have the profile of a true author.
Hello,
It's obvious that we are novices! Otherwise, we wouldn't be asking so many questions! For someone who seems to know what they're talking about and who appears to have such a big writer's ego, I find it amusing that they have spelling mistakes in your post. What more can I say other than that I love sweet pears and that being one is rather endearing to me. Oh, one more thing: personally, I don't dream of a bestseller and I don't have that pretension (unlike you, apparently). Anyway, instead of judging others, why don't you share a bit about what you've written and published, and especially with whom?
It's obvious that we are novices! Otherwise, we wouldn't be asking so many questions! For someone who seems to know what they're talking about and who appears to have such a big writer's ego, I find it amusing that they have spelling mistakes in your post. What more can I say other than that I love sweet pears and that being one is rather endearing to me. Oh, one more thing: personally, I don't dream of a bestseller and I don't have that pretension (unlike you, apparently). Anyway, instead of judging others, why don't you share a bit about what you've written and published, and especially with whom?
I would agree with therig: since you seem to know what you're talking about and are quite willing to lecture others ("leave that to professionals like me, and don't come play in the big leagues"), we would like to know about your publications. Are they, like your post, filled with spelling mistakes (the most characteristic and widespread on the internet is the infinitive instead of the past participle: "publier" instead of "publié". And the commas placed haphazardly, or not placed at all when they are needed, etc.)? One wonders, if you write like that, which suicidal publisher could have published ("with er") your "works". That said, I think one needs to be wary of vanity presses, and that most of the companies that do this are scams (especially Beaurepaire, Thélès, which charge exorbitant sums to supposedly "make the layout." What layout? Any scribbler, even an amateur, knows how to make a layout for text if they are familiar with the publisher's graphic charter.
And for the record, it should be remembered that Proust published his first book through a vanity press...
And for the record, it should be remembered that Proust published his first book through a vanity press...
Beware, if you are asked to pay to be published, it's a scam!!!
Any reputable publishing house will cover all publishing costs. If you are asked to pay, it's a vanity press that is only interested in your money!
Don't hesitate to look for small traditional publishing houses.
If you really can't find a suitable option, try self-publishing. Despite the bad reputation of this system, it is much more legitimate than vanity presses.
After that, don't expect a meteoric success right away, but by persevering, you will be noticed.
I repeat: A vanity press is a pure and simple scam. Don't sign if you are asked to pay!!!
Any reputable publishing house will cover all publishing costs. If you are asked to pay, it's a vanity press that is only interested in your money!
Don't hesitate to look for small traditional publishing houses.
If you really can't find a suitable option, try self-publishing. Despite the bad reputation of this system, it is much more legitimate than vanity presses.
After that, don't expect a meteoric success right away, but by persevering, you will be noticed.
I repeat: A vanity press is a pure and simple scam. Don't sign if you are asked to pay!!!
I myself received an offer from the Editions du Panthéon where they asked me for the modest sum of 2890 euros. Not having responded to their proposal, they sent me a new offer for 1870 euros without me requesting anything. In any case, I advise you to wait a little because otherwise your banker will be calling you very soon... :))
Hello everyone,
So I finally chose Persée editions because they offer real promotional support with advertising posters, book signing sessions (which should actually be seen as a sales representative job for your book) with a reasonable price and personalized follow-up throughout the editing process. My novel is called "Choc Frontal" and I’m currently in the proofreading stage, so no release date set yet, but I’ll keep you updated. Thanks to everyone and a big shout-out to those who criticize self-publishing without stating whether they themselves are writers (the first rule of being a writer is to be read, hence published) and who seem to be simply disillusioned people. As I mentioned earlier, instead of criticizing self-publishing for free, tell us where you are published!
Good luck to all.
So I finally chose Persée editions because they offer real promotional support with advertising posters, book signing sessions (which should actually be seen as a sales representative job for your book) with a reasonable price and personalized follow-up throughout the editing process. My novel is called "Choc Frontal" and I’m currently in the proofreading stage, so no release date set yet, but I’ll keep you updated. Thanks to everyone and a big shout-out to those who criticize self-publishing without stating whether they themselves are writers (the first rule of being a writer is to be read, hence published) and who seem to be simply disillusioned people. As I mentioned earlier, instead of criticizing self-publishing for free, tell us where you are published!
Good luck to all.
Salut Thierrig. I'm currently trying to get an adventure novel published and of course, like all the other beginners, I'm asking myself the question "who's going to scam me?" Could you tell me what kind of "contribution" is asked from you at Persée? (in hard cash!) You can reply to me at: sirius9 at hotmail dot fr Thanks.
My novel was released 4 months ago, published by Éditions Persée, and is titled Choc frontal. The distribution is national and the initial sales figures are encouraging. There have been announcements in newspapers and on the radio. I also started signing sessions. If things continue like this, I should attend the Paris Book Fair in 2012 or 2013. All of this is, of course, organized solely by my publisher; I had nothing to do but sign the contract and pay my (moderate and negotiated) participation fee.
As for my spelling mistakes, they took care of a complete correction of my typescript, thank you for worrying about it.
In short, this is not to brag; it’s just to say that when you have truly created something, it shouldn't be a problem to say so. Because I remain aware that in this discussion, there are mostly people who criticize author accounts or participatory publishing, but who say nothing about their successes and their published works.
I conclude that they are sourpusses, bad authors who were simply rejected by publishers. In short, you are all just bitter! Otherwise, why would you be ashamed to say what you have written?
P.S. To respond to I don't remember who, it's not just Proust who published his first novel at his own expense; more recently, Houllebecq and Despentes did too.
As for my spelling mistakes, they took care of a complete correction of my typescript, thank you for worrying about it.
In short, this is not to brag; it’s just to say that when you have truly created something, it shouldn't be a problem to say so. Because I remain aware that in this discussion, there are mostly people who criticize author accounts or participatory publishing, but who say nothing about their successes and their published works.
I conclude that they are sourpusses, bad authors who were simply rejected by publishers. In short, you are all just bitter! Otherwise, why would you be ashamed to say what you have written?
P.S. To respond to I don't remember who, it's not just Proust who published his first novel at his own expense; more recently, Houllebecq and Despentes did too.
One thing that shocks me in your statements is that most authors overlook the real profession of typesetter and graphic designer. Do they think they can stand shoulder to shoulder with people who have at least two years of study in this field without any training? Do they think that labor is free? I am no longer surprised to find unreadable books, abominable hyphenations, widows, orphans, and amusing typos. Typography is a profession, and we must respect these people and pay them what they are worth. What arrogance from some. Ignorance does not excuse everything either, and before claiming that one knows how to typeset and thus understands a profession, ask yourselves the right questions. There is the person who cooks at home and the 4-star chef. You will pay the one from the restaurant, and not just for the ingredients purchased.
Have you thought about EDILIVRE Publishing? I have been published by them, with two poetry collections and one novel, and I didn't spend a cent. They offer options (design and editing), but it's optional. For my part, I didn't use any options. With a good proofreader and a careful review at the proof stage, everything went smoothly. I should clarify that your work is only printed when you give your approval with a proof that you agree to. Additionally, I have a contract and receive royalties on my sales... For the distribution of the work, it is done either through them or on all book sales sites such as Amazon.fr, alapage.com, FNAC, etc. And if you buy some books yourself, it will entitle you to a discount on those purchases, depending on the sale price of your work. For example, for a novel sold at 18 euros, you will pay with a 5% discount for purchasing 1 to 9 books, then 10% discount for more, and so on... Check out www.edilivre.com and see for yourself...
Best regards
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www.lesmotsenfolie.net
Hello,
I just had a book published by Edilivre and I have to admit that it's financially worth it. I order my books at a good discount which allows me to send them by mail to buyers while making a small profit each time. For my second manuscript, I just received an offer from Panthéon for 4220 euros (196 pages). I'm really hesitating because of the invoice.
I just had a book published by Edilivre and I have to admit that it's financially worth it. I order my books at a good discount which allows me to send them by mail to buyers while making a small profit each time. For my second manuscript, I just received an offer from Panthéon for 4220 euros (196 pages). I'm really hesitating because of the invoice.
Hello!
A piece of advice: never pay a publisher to publish your work! Because in that case, it's your money that interests them, not your text!
Best regards!
A piece of advice: never pay a publisher to publish your work! Because in that case, it's your money that interests them, not your text!
Best regards!
Hello everyone,
I apologize for not responding sooner to all your messages, but I have just returned from the sea. After a 5-month mission, I immediately took on a second mission in Libya for 2 months. From now on, I will primarily take care of my 3 daughters and then focus on getting my book published. Having been featured in La Croix in July due to my work situation, I was able to establish connections in the publishing industry. I will be able to contact these people and see what they offer. As for my cover page sketch, a friend on board is working on it with a guy from the army. I hope to provide you with more details if time permits. Thanks again to everyone for your advice, which I have taken note of.
See you soon!
I apologize for not responding sooner to all your messages, but I have just returned from the sea. After a 5-month mission, I immediately took on a second mission in Libya for 2 months. From now on, I will primarily take care of my 3 daughters and then focus on getting my book published. Having been featured in La Croix in July due to my work situation, I was able to establish connections in the publishing industry. I will be able to contact these people and see what they offer. As for my cover page sketch, a friend on board is working on it with a guy from the army. I hope to provide you with more details if time permits. Thanks again to everyone for your advice, which I have taken note of.
See you soon!
Hello,
There are two ways to get published: traditional publishing and self-publishing.
What we call "author-paid publishing" is, as you may have understood, not publishing at all but a service provision, usually offered by a printer. Why not... but be careful not to give up your rights, watch the prices closely and compare, ask precisely what services are included besides printing the book. Also, be aware that a book published on an author-paid basis is often rejected at literary fairs, in author associations... As for being listed at FNAC, that won't do you any good... which you may already have... Author-paid publishing isn't a very good idea.
Traditional publishing? It is public knowledge that the market is saturated, totally saturated. Publishers only publish authors who are recommended to them, with a few exceptions. It's a bit like dreaming of winning the EuroMillions! But nothing stops you from trying your luck! To do this, stack the odds in your favor: thoroughly check your manuscript to ensure there are no mistakes, have it read and critiqued, don’t let anything slide, don’t settle for just being satisfied with having finished it... When you’ve written THE END, know that’s where the work begins. Read it aloud, and don’t hesitate to revisit anything that sounded off to your ear. Then, when your manuscript feels "finished," print it (one side only, large margins, double-spaced), don’t forget to indicate the title, your name, your address, and your phone number on the first page (avoid mentions like "work deposited"... If you want to protect it before sending, do it but don’t mention it, it's a sign of distrust towards your recipient), on page 2 include a few lines about the author and a summary of the book. Bind everything with a spiral (it makes flipping the pages easy) and accompany it with a plain letter. Before sending your book, target the right publishers (there's no point in sending an adventure book to a crime publisher, etc.). To do this, visit a bookstore and identify publishers who publish similar types of works to yours. Only send your manuscript by mail… and be patient.
If after a few months you haven’t received a response or if the responses are negative, or if you think your book, even if it’s very good, isn’t meant for a wide audience, self-publishing is a great way to make it exist. For this, rely on publishing professionals who can support you in your publishing project and guide you through the steps (ISBN, legal deposit, referrals to bookstores, etc.). I recommend the site comment-publier.com: you will find a wealth of information and advice, and if you call them, there’s always someone competent and available who can give you good advice. And if you’re satisfied with the answers, you can work on your publishing project with them. In any case, know that with self-publishing, you have access to literary fairs, bookstores, author associations, and you retain all your rights. This will allow you to sign with a publisher (a "real" one) if, one day, the opportunity arises.
See you soon,
Fabienne
There are two ways to get published: traditional publishing and self-publishing.
What we call "author-paid publishing" is, as you may have understood, not publishing at all but a service provision, usually offered by a printer. Why not... but be careful not to give up your rights, watch the prices closely and compare, ask precisely what services are included besides printing the book. Also, be aware that a book published on an author-paid basis is often rejected at literary fairs, in author associations... As for being listed at FNAC, that won't do you any good... which you may already have... Author-paid publishing isn't a very good idea.
Traditional publishing? It is public knowledge that the market is saturated, totally saturated. Publishers only publish authors who are recommended to them, with a few exceptions. It's a bit like dreaming of winning the EuroMillions! But nothing stops you from trying your luck! To do this, stack the odds in your favor: thoroughly check your manuscript to ensure there are no mistakes, have it read and critiqued, don’t let anything slide, don’t settle for just being satisfied with having finished it... When you’ve written THE END, know that’s where the work begins. Read it aloud, and don’t hesitate to revisit anything that sounded off to your ear. Then, when your manuscript feels "finished," print it (one side only, large margins, double-spaced), don’t forget to indicate the title, your name, your address, and your phone number on the first page (avoid mentions like "work deposited"... If you want to protect it before sending, do it but don’t mention it, it's a sign of distrust towards your recipient), on page 2 include a few lines about the author and a summary of the book. Bind everything with a spiral (it makes flipping the pages easy) and accompany it with a plain letter. Before sending your book, target the right publishers (there's no point in sending an adventure book to a crime publisher, etc.). To do this, visit a bookstore and identify publishers who publish similar types of works to yours. Only send your manuscript by mail… and be patient.
If after a few months you haven’t received a response or if the responses are negative, or if you think your book, even if it’s very good, isn’t meant for a wide audience, self-publishing is a great way to make it exist. For this, rely on publishing professionals who can support you in your publishing project and guide you through the steps (ISBN, legal deposit, referrals to bookstores, etc.). I recommend the site comment-publier.com: you will find a wealth of information and advice, and if you call them, there’s always someone competent and available who can give you good advice. And if you’re satisfied with the answers, you can work on your publishing project with them. In any case, know that with self-publishing, you have access to literary fairs, bookstores, author associations, and you retain all your rights. This will allow you to sign with a publisher (a "real" one) if, one day, the opportunity arises.
See you soon,
Fabienne
Thank you for your advice! It's perfect and complete.
I would like to add, as the president of a literary fair, that we accept self-published authors but we need to limit their number; this year, we will reduce that number (which was about 40 to 50%) to 30%, or 15 authors out of 50. We want to give new authors a chance, but we are sometimes overwhelmed by the demand.
I would like to add, as the president of a literary fair, that we accept self-published authors but we need to limit their number; this year, we will reduce that number (which was about 40 to 50%) to 30%, or 15 authors out of 50. We want to give new authors a chance, but we are sometimes overwhelmed by the demand.
Hello,
The Pandore association offers numerous publishing assistance services at very attractive prices and allows you to retain the copyright!
Feel free to visit our website: www.pandore-asso.fr
The Pandore association offers numerous publishing assistance services at very attractive prices and allows you to retain the copyright!
Feel free to visit our website: www.pandore-asso.fr
Hello,
The requested amount can vary depending on the number of pages and additional specifications. Nonetheless, the rate remains exorbitant. This may be due to the fact that the work is then redistributed in bookstores, and distribution is expensive. Is the work well done? Is the commission high? Do they ask for copyright? Exclusivity?
I have a friend who got published by Pandore. She paid less than 2500 euros for printing and all the associated work. They gave her a list of publishers, she contacted them, and now she is publishing with Dunod by January (a real publishing house so no fees). And Pandore doesn't require any copyright! Sales are done directly online, no bookstores in sight for now.
I've also heard about Publibook, Edilivre, and many others, but in the end, the system remains the same, and for small budgets wanting to turn their book into a professional work, it’s not always easy. I know this because I went through it, even with Bragelonne, which was asking for more than 3000 euros for my book in 300 copies. In short, it's not easy to navigate; there are so many out there!
The requested amount can vary depending on the number of pages and additional specifications. Nonetheless, the rate remains exorbitant. This may be due to the fact that the work is then redistributed in bookstores, and distribution is expensive. Is the work well done? Is the commission high? Do they ask for copyright? Exclusivity?
I have a friend who got published by Pandore. She paid less than 2500 euros for printing and all the associated work. They gave her a list of publishers, she contacted them, and now she is publishing with Dunod by January (a real publishing house so no fees). And Pandore doesn't require any copyright! Sales are done directly online, no bookstores in sight for now.
I've also heard about Publibook, Edilivre, and many others, but in the end, the system remains the same, and for small budgets wanting to turn their book into a professional work, it’s not always easy. I know this because I went through it, even with Bragelonne, which was asking for more than 3000 euros for my book in 300 copies. In short, it's not easy to navigate; there are so many out there!
Not agreed! As I said above, the publishing industry is completely blocked and inconsistent. Many talents are not published. Major publishing houses inevitably overlook good novels. The selection is too drastic, and I would bet my hand that most of them don't take the time to read the manuscripts in full and therefore don't grasp the work on the twists, the psychological evolution of the characters...
What you’re saying seems right to me, but we also need to think about the publishers. Self-publishing has some monstrous prices (Mélibée offered me a contract for 2000 euros, plus 200 euros if I want it corrected), but we have to face the fact that even if some are scams, others really take care of books. Small publishing houses cannot afford to lose money, while Gallimard and other big publishers don’t care much at all! But in large publishing houses, I think a novice author must feel really lost... That’s why, in my early days, I prefer small houses and compare all the responses I receive.
Some publishers I have sent my text to, if that interests you:
Editions Mélibée (Self-publishing, no bad feedback to my knowledge)
Editions Praelego (Self-publishing as well I think, with bad feedback and an unattractive website)
Editions Baudelaire (50 pages A4 minimum, no bad feedback to my knowledge)
Editions Amalthée (Self-publishing, no bad feedback to my knowledge)
Editions Persée (Self-publishing, I received two acknowledgments of my text, one after submission, and one from the reading committee a week later, knowing that the waiting time for a response is estimated at 4 to 5 weeks...)
Editions Benevent (50 pages A4 minimum, self-publishing, bad feedback posted on the forum)
Editions Beaurepaire: (Self-publishing, good feedback on the forum, affordable price)
Editions Edilivre: (Publisher-funded, good feedback on the forum)
Editions Mon Petit Editeur: (Publisher-funded, the site is very clear and you can read everything you need to know about the terms)
Editions du Panthéon: (Self-publishing, bad feedback on the forum, I read online that this publisher had been condemned for abusive self-publishing, but since that incident, they have changed directors)
There you go, that's about all you can find online regarding affordable small publishing houses (I'm not talking about the price, the 2000 euros from Mélibée, I won’t pay that, and being only 17 right now, my bank is likely not to agree ;))
In short, all this to say that writing is mainly a passion. Paying to get published, why not? My goal isn’t to make a profit, it's to not lose money. To explode sales with the first novel, you need to be called Superman! (It happens, but rarely!) And for those who want to get rich being an author, I say a big LOL! Hoping to make money by receiving 10% from a book costing 13 euros? What a joke.
Anyway, I’ll stop here, this comment is already quite substantial, I won’t impose more on you!
And may luck be with you in your works! ;)
Some publishers I have sent my text to, if that interests you:
Editions Mélibée (Self-publishing, no bad feedback to my knowledge)
Editions Praelego (Self-publishing as well I think, with bad feedback and an unattractive website)
Editions Baudelaire (50 pages A4 minimum, no bad feedback to my knowledge)
Editions Amalthée (Self-publishing, no bad feedback to my knowledge)
Editions Persée (Self-publishing, I received two acknowledgments of my text, one after submission, and one from the reading committee a week later, knowing that the waiting time for a response is estimated at 4 to 5 weeks...)
Editions Benevent (50 pages A4 minimum, self-publishing, bad feedback posted on the forum)
Editions Beaurepaire: (Self-publishing, good feedback on the forum, affordable price)
Editions Edilivre: (Publisher-funded, good feedback on the forum)
Editions Mon Petit Editeur: (Publisher-funded, the site is very clear and you can read everything you need to know about the terms)
Editions du Panthéon: (Self-publishing, bad feedback on the forum, I read online that this publisher had been condemned for abusive self-publishing, but since that incident, they have changed directors)
There you go, that's about all you can find online regarding affordable small publishing houses (I'm not talking about the price, the 2000 euros from Mélibée, I won’t pay that, and being only 17 right now, my bank is likely not to agree ;))
In short, all this to say that writing is mainly a passion. Paying to get published, why not? My goal isn’t to make a profit, it's to not lose money. To explode sales with the first novel, you need to be called Superman! (It happens, but rarely!) And for those who want to get rich being an author, I say a big LOL! Hoping to make money by receiving 10% from a book costing 13 euros? What a joke.
Anyway, I’ll stop here, this comment is already quite substantial, I won’t impose more on you!
And may luck be with you in your works! ;)
Hello,
I also received proposals from the Editions du Panthéon, but given the price they are asking, I'm not sure what to think.
They are asking me exactly €4380.
For comparison, how much are they asking you?
Thank you for answering me honestly.
I also received proposals from the Editions du Panthéon, but given the price they are asking, I'm not sure what to think.
They are asking me exactly €4380.
For comparison, how much are they asking you?
Thank you for answering me honestly.
Ba ba ba, it's too expensive, it's a scam. I'm going to pay 432 euros for 100 copies by going through a public printing service, I'll do my own promotion, I find it unacceptable that we can be asked for so much money to publish our manuscripts. One piece of advice: do it yourself or go through The Book Edition, it will cost you less for the same result.
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Thank you for the very enlightening debate.
So I was looking for an answer and I found one: I will start with self-publishing. I saw that at YouScribe they offer (on each sale) 60% of the share that goes to you, minus a commission of €0.15 (so 60% - €0.15). That gives us almost a 50/50 split, which seems "fair" at first glance.
Advantages: (if it's true) you get a good half share on each work and it's rewarding, plus you benefit from operational support (the site accepts almost all file formats, pdf doc rtf xls and many others). You upload the "book" file already formatted, and that's it.
Disadvantages: sales are only in digital format, so it's harder to promote (for example, why pay €6 or €7 for a piece of data when it's the same price for a real paperback).
I would like to know if any of you have gone through YouScribe, and if the site is reliable. Thank you ^^
[EDIT: they specifically mention 60% of the price excluding tax, and you will be automatically paid 30 days later (by entering your Paypal or bank account number); if in month X your earnings do not amount to a minimum of €50, they will carry it over to the next month, with the accumulation (until it reaches €50)]
So I was looking for an answer and I found one: I will start with self-publishing. I saw that at YouScribe they offer (on each sale) 60% of the share that goes to you, minus a commission of €0.15 (so 60% - €0.15). That gives us almost a 50/50 split, which seems "fair" at first glance.
Advantages: (if it's true) you get a good half share on each work and it's rewarding, plus you benefit from operational support (the site accepts almost all file formats, pdf doc rtf xls and many others). You upload the "book" file already formatted, and that's it.
Disadvantages: sales are only in digital format, so it's harder to promote (for example, why pay €6 or €7 for a piece of data when it's the same price for a real paperback).
I would like to know if any of you have gone through YouScribe, and if the site is reliable. Thank you ^^
[EDIT: they specifically mention 60% of the price excluding tax, and you will be automatically paid 30 days later (by entering your Paypal or bank account number); if in month X your earnings do not amount to a minimum of €50, they will carry it over to the next month, with the accumulation (until it reaches €50)]
Hello Normy,
I recently put my short story up for sale on Youscribe.com and it’s really doing well! Over 200 reads and 3 sales in just 3 weeks. Well, there are no miracle solutions, but with a bit of common sense (a book priced at €5 or less tends to sell better) and promotion on social media, you can achieve something ;)
I recently put my short story up for sale on Youscribe.com and it’s really doing well! Over 200 reads and 3 sales in just 3 weeks. Well, there are no miracle solutions, but with a bit of common sense (a book priced at €5 or less tends to sell better) and promotion on social media, you can achieve something ;)
I invite you all to join us at http//www.kolophon.org. We publish books, essays,... etc. free of charge. My highest regards.
Kolophon
Kolophon
Moreover, regarding Beaurepaire Editions, they are very approachable and there is a lot of transparency in the exchanges. No bad surprises... :) Good luck to you.
Hello,
Indeed, I just received the offer from Beaurepaire Editions and the price really has nothing to do with that requested by the Panthéon! The service seems about the same except that they print the books based on orders and not 300 copies at once; I think this difference must account for a lot in the price.
I think I will dig a little deeper as I am waiting for responses from other publishing houses. And they don't mention anything about publicity.
Anyway, thank you, this discussion is really important to me since I have never been published before and this was even the first time I dared to send my novel which was written a few years ago. It’s great to be able to gather information and have real testimonials.
Thanks again, and I will keep you updated on what happens next.
Indeed, I just received the offer from Beaurepaire Editions and the price really has nothing to do with that requested by the Panthéon! The service seems about the same except that they print the books based on orders and not 300 copies at once; I think this difference must account for a lot in the price.
I think I will dig a little deeper as I am waiting for responses from other publishing houses. And they don't mention anything about publicity.
Anyway, thank you, this discussion is really important to me since I have never been published before and this was even the first time I dared to send my novel which was written a few years ago. It’s great to be able to gather information and have real testimonials.
Thanks again, and I will keep you updated on what happens next.
Hi! Do you have to pay to be published by publishers? I didn't know that, and it gives me a cold shock. I'm a minor and I'm starting a novel and would like to publish it one day. But from what you're saying, I don't know what to think anymore... Besides, you received several offers! You must really have talent!
Hello, yes some publishing houses enforce fees for the implementation of manuscripts, this problem does not exist on Edilivre. I did not receive "multiple proposals", my first collection "Fugitively" was successful and I sold quite a few copies, then I wrote "The Heart on the Edge of Tears", a novel with autobiographical tendencies, which is also selling well, and then my latest collection "The Words of the Soul" was released. And these three books cost me not a penny in publishing. If you wish, come to my poetry site and you will see what I write, www.lesmotsenfolie.net my pseudonym is "Fugitive".
Just type the name of my works on the internet and you will realize my work too... Kisses
Just type the name of my works on the internet and you will realize my work too... Kisses
Hi, it’s not about talent, it’s just maturity and research. Indeed, I don’t go through publishers, too expensive. I go through a printer. My only problem currently is finding a designer or an illustrator to create the cover for my book. I've been facing this issue for the past 4 months, which is delaying the publication of my book, "Dangerous Thoughts." As a result, I had time to finish volume 2. My other major concern was that given my job as a soldier, I couldn't oversee the production of my books. For this, I hired my mother, who is delighted to promote and publish it on the market. Luckily, she’s there because in 15 days I’m leaving for 5 months on a mission at sea. I won’t be able to respond to your emails starting February 14. I wish you all good luck and thank you for your emails.
Grinch
Grinch
Hello, on Edilivre, the book design costs 100 euros; they do whatever you want, put in a photo or something else. For my first collection, I sent them a montage and got a nice cover, but they can help you with your choice... I’m also the mother of a soldier; my son is currently in Tahiti. He returned from Afghanistan a year ago and was part of the contingent based in Castres that had 10 of its young men killed; he was lucky... I wish you a good trip... kisses.
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can you tell me more about this?