Scam following an ad on WWW.LEBONCOIN.FR
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Hello everyone,
The ad for the sale of my car was posted on the website www.leboncoin.fr on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 around 11:00 PM and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HO Surprise !!!!!!!!!!! I received a text message the next morning, on August 26, 2009 at 6:54 AM from the number +32496448785 with the following content word for word: Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos at the address: cl.malayen74@gmail.com or contact me at the number: 0022505360243. Regards. Camille.
At first, I thought great, I already have a potential buyer!
I then replied by email to cl.malayen74@gmail.com with the link to see the ad on www.leboncoin.fr, not receiving a response and finding the number: 0022505360243 strange, I went on GOOGLE and simply typed this number in the search bar, and there I found this FORUM, I’m disgusted!
I hope that responding to this email won't be held against me... Because ultimately these scammers have my mobile number and my email address!
Right after this testimony, I plan to send an email to the editorial team of BONCOIN.FR
And thank you for creating this forum!
The ad for the sale of my car was posted on the website www.leboncoin.fr on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 around 11:00 PM and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HO Surprise !!!!!!!!!!! I received a text message the next morning, on August 26, 2009 at 6:54 AM from the number +32496448785 with the following content word for word: Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos at the address: cl.malayen74@gmail.com or contact me at the number: 0022505360243. Regards. Camille.
At first, I thought great, I already have a potential buyer!
I then replied by email to cl.malayen74@gmail.com with the link to see the ad on www.leboncoin.fr, not receiving a response and finding the number: 0022505360243 strange, I went on GOOGLE and simply typed this number in the search bar, and there I found this FORUM, I’m disgusted!
I hope that responding to this email won't be held against me... Because ultimately these scammers have my mobile number and my email address!
Right after this testimony, I plan to send an email to the editorial team of BONCOIN.FR
And thank you for creating this forum!
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HELLO EVERYONE
same as the previous message!!!
email address that changes, but the same weird phone number.
please be very cautious!!!
best regards,
same as the previous message!!!
email address that changes, but the same weird phone number.
please be very cautious!!!
best regards,
Good evening Yann,
I'm sorry for you.
Could you tell us more about the scam you fell victim to? Please take the opportunity to provide us with the name and email address of this scammer.
Regarding the phone number, don't worry: the likelihood of the scammer calling is low (it all depends on the type of scam you were a victim of). If they do call, you have two options. You can either insult them profusely (let it all out :), or you can leave the phone off the hook during the call (an international call is expensive lol).
You can reach out to the association Avent France: https://www.avenfrance.org/
File a complaint with the police.
Have you provided any other information like ID card, bank details, etc.?
I'm sorry for you.
Could you tell us more about the scam you fell victim to? Please take the opportunity to provide us with the name and email address of this scammer.
Regarding the phone number, don't worry: the likelihood of the scammer calling is low (it all depends on the type of scam you were a victim of). If they do call, you have two options. You can either insult them profusely (let it all out :), or you can leave the phone off the hook during the call (an international call is expensive lol).
You can reach out to the association Avent France: https://www.avenfrance.org/
File a complaint with the police.
Have you provided any other information like ID card, bank details, etc.?
It's not worth asking Leboncoin if it's a scam; they are complicit. I posted an ad with my phone number. I received these texts saying that a person is interested in my car and that I need to call 0899... to get their contact details. I removed the ad and reposted it a few weeks later with a different price, hiding my phone number. I still received this text, with the correct price. So Leboncoin gave my phone number to these people. It's been a week since my car was no longer on Leboncoin, and I just received that text again... so it's not by taking the numbers from the ads that they call you; it's with the information that Leboncoin gives them.
I just put a Sony Vaio laptop up for sale, and I've received texts from numbers like 01905 or 01357 asking me to get in touch via email, which I did. They are offering to take my device and pay via PAYPAL! This is usually a very secure method... Is this really a scam? Two people told me they wanted to gift it to their son who lives in France (Argenteuil then Orleans).
What should I do?
Thank you for your help.
What should I do?
Thank you for your help.
Hello..
1- We never use those crappy and anonymous numbers..
2- If we are not PERFECTLY aware of the possible scams on Paypal (not so 'sure' about that), we don't go through with the transaction..
This story has strong hints of a scam attempt.. Where are the 'buyers'? (Or at least, where do they claim to be?).
See you later!
1- We never use those crappy and anonymous numbers..
2- If we are not PERFECTLY aware of the possible scams on Paypal (not so 'sure' about that), we don't go through with the transaction..
This story has strong hints of a scam attempt.. Where are the 'buyers'? (Or at least, where do they claim to be?).
See you later!
Hello,
I have also been contacted by these "mythos" buyers...... what a shame
What world are we living in??? What to do to stop this.....
I have also been contacted by these "mythos" buyers...... what a shame
What world are we living in??? What to do to stop this.....
Hello, it's exactly the same for me. Having posted several ads on leboncoin, I also receive plenty of texts indicating that someone is interested and that I need to call them back at this number 08... it's really, really annoying in the end!! But what can you do? Apart from sending the sender's number to 33700 (the SMS spam number)? It's frustrating, especially when we've asked to be on the red list with our operator!
It is stated in the regulations of Le Bon Coin that distant transactions should be avoided...
The person has your mobile number because it is indicated in the ad; you can hide it before posting the ad...
The person has your mobile number because it is indicated in the ad; you can hide it before posting the ad...
Ok,
Thank you for the advice, I will remove it right away...
As for avoiding distant transactions, we are in agreement... but at first glance, how can we know where this message is coming from without, of course, checking this forum...
Disappointing nonetheless.... it really needs to stop, it's unacceptable to waste time with pseudo-swindlers.
Thank you for the advice, I will remove it right away...
As for avoiding distant transactions, we are in agreement... but at first glance, how can we know where this message is coming from without, of course, checking this forum...
Disappointing nonetheless.... it really needs to stop, it's unacceptable to waste time with pseudo-swindlers.
Here is the translation:
"Here, I too have been a victim of this potential buyer on boncoin.fr with the mobile number 0631742758 who sent the same text message: Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos at the address: cac.richard74@livefr or contact me at the number 0022505360243; Regards, André. This is a typical scam. I received the message very late, around midnight, so doubt started to settle in because of the time, and then when I saw the number, I thought it was probably a scam. It turned out I was right, I confirmed it thanks to this forum."
"Here, I too have been a victim of this potential buyer on boncoin.fr with the mobile number 0631742758 who sent the same text message: Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos at the address: cac.richard74@livefr or contact me at the number 0022505360243; Regards, André. This is a typical scam. I received the message very late, around midnight, so doubt started to settle in because of the time, and then when I saw the number, I thought it was probably a scam. It turned out I was right, I confirmed it thanks to this forum."
Good evening, I had the same problem with Argus. I reported it and they immediately removed the listing. One must always be cautious.
Same here, I just received a similar text from this "bernrol bartier"....
here are the details of this bogus text:
mobile: 06.31.74.27.58
phone: 0022501436468
I also believed it... I thought I was the fastest car seller!! lol
here are the details of this bogus text:
mobile: 06.31.74.27.58
phone: 0022501436468
I also believed it... I thought I was the fastest car seller!! lol
Hello everyone,
thank you very much for the post because I almost got scammed too.
I will try to provide as many details as possible to avoid getting ripped off.
I'm selling my car on leboncoin.fr
After not even one hour, a message:
"Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos to the address: cac.richard74@live.fr or call me at: 0022505360243. Regards, André"
So I replied by email and sent photos of my car.
The guy replied:
"Hello,
I just saw the photos and I am interested, the vehicle is impeccable! You have taken very good care of it; please let me know your best price and the payment method that suits you so I can make a purchasing decision!
P.S.: please reserve the vehicle for me; I would like to give it as a gift to my wife
Best regards.
André"
I, all happy, replied that it's a lovely gift for his wife, but to reserve it, we first need to agree on the price?! And after he asked what my price was, he replied:
"Hello,
I am French and I am currently in Ivory Coast for work. Your car perfectly matches my needs and the price is quite reasonable.
I consulted my advisor so that he could propose a procedure that offers all the guarantees regarding payment and compliance with deadlines; he advised me to make a transfer; it’s secure and safer for both of us. Regarding the transfer, it will only take 24 hours since my bank is represented in France (BNP PARIBAS) and also because I will make an 'urgent' transfer to you. Once your bank confirms the transfer and you have received the money, we can proceed with more confidence with the procedure for the shipment of the vehicle.
I have already contacted a carrier for the pickup of the vehicle; I will give you his number and once the financial aspect is definitively settled with you, you will only have to contact him; he will come with my representative who will handle the formalities for the vehicle; he will have a power of attorney from me and thus will be able to sign all the transfer documents. You can agree on a convenient time for the vehicle pickup. You will not have any expenses to incur as everything is on me.
If you are in principle okay with this, I would like to receive an email confirmation from you that you are selling me the vehicle and then please send me your bank details so that I can pass them on to my bank for the transfer.
Best regards
André"
At that point, I refused to send my bank details and began to smell a scam. I played along and told him I preferred a cash mandate and asked for his address to prepare the paperwork and ensure the reliability of his carrier. He replied that everything was okay with him and asked me to connect on MSN Messenger, supposedly easier, but didn’t give me his address. We scheduled a chat on MSN.
Then, he told me that cars are either very expensive in Ivory Coast or in poor condition. And that for payment, he needed my name and address (so far, no risk).
A day passed, he contacted me again and said there would be taxes to pay to unlock the money, as the tax authorities are very strict regarding money laundering.
I replied that there was no way I was sending money (by check and in the name of the so-called responsible person Demetrio Alvarez) to a supposed post office abroad. And at that point, he almost convinced me because he gave me the address of the nearest post office to my home. Worse still, he gave me a reference to enter on the Western Union site to prove his good faith and even scanned the proof of the money deposit (including the surcharge) and a copy of his passport, but too quickly. Still a bit suspicious since public service checks are rarely in a specific name. Here's his last message:
"Hello,
I've just sent you a transfer this morning of €11,150 instead of €10,300 in anticipation of the taxes required by the tax service for all international mandates of this type. The control office will contact you this morning to proceed with the regularization and validation of the mandate; I count on you to ensure this is done as quickly as possible so that we can continue with the transaction.
P.S.: I therefore urge you to urgently contact Mr. Demetrio Alvarez to regularize your situation and collect your money today. His contact: 0022505614380
you will find attached the payment receipt.
Best regards.
Charles"
I called a number he provided in Ivory Coast (the so-called post office) and questioned them. The guy almost yelled at me because I hadn’t withdrawn the money and that they were going to be in trouble because the tax authorities would be on their back.
And there, he made a first mistake Richard Charles, because he called me on my work phone (how did he get my phone number?). And to confirm, I looked up a Richard Charles in Epinal (88) in the phone book. I called him and the poor guy told me this isn’t the first time. A friend of mine from Ivory Coast had a conversation with him, and I will try to file a complaint because apparently there are services that deal with that.
There you go, sorry it's long but if it can help prevent other sellers from wasting their time...
Happy selling everyone
Have a good evening.
thank you very much for the post because I almost got scammed too.
I will try to provide as many details as possible to avoid getting ripped off.
I'm selling my car on leboncoin.fr
After not even one hour, a message:
"Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos to the address: cac.richard74@live.fr or call me at: 0022505360243. Regards, André"
So I replied by email and sent photos of my car.
The guy replied:
"Hello,
I just saw the photos and I am interested, the vehicle is impeccable! You have taken very good care of it; please let me know your best price and the payment method that suits you so I can make a purchasing decision!
P.S.: please reserve the vehicle for me; I would like to give it as a gift to my wife
Best regards.
André"
I, all happy, replied that it's a lovely gift for his wife, but to reserve it, we first need to agree on the price?! And after he asked what my price was, he replied:
"Hello,
I am French and I am currently in Ivory Coast for work. Your car perfectly matches my needs and the price is quite reasonable.
I consulted my advisor so that he could propose a procedure that offers all the guarantees regarding payment and compliance with deadlines; he advised me to make a transfer; it’s secure and safer for both of us. Regarding the transfer, it will only take 24 hours since my bank is represented in France (BNP PARIBAS) and also because I will make an 'urgent' transfer to you. Once your bank confirms the transfer and you have received the money, we can proceed with more confidence with the procedure for the shipment of the vehicle.
I have already contacted a carrier for the pickup of the vehicle; I will give you his number and once the financial aspect is definitively settled with you, you will only have to contact him; he will come with my representative who will handle the formalities for the vehicle; he will have a power of attorney from me and thus will be able to sign all the transfer documents. You can agree on a convenient time for the vehicle pickup. You will not have any expenses to incur as everything is on me.
If you are in principle okay with this, I would like to receive an email confirmation from you that you are selling me the vehicle and then please send me your bank details so that I can pass them on to my bank for the transfer.
Best regards
André"
At that point, I refused to send my bank details and began to smell a scam. I played along and told him I preferred a cash mandate and asked for his address to prepare the paperwork and ensure the reliability of his carrier. He replied that everything was okay with him and asked me to connect on MSN Messenger, supposedly easier, but didn’t give me his address. We scheduled a chat on MSN.
Then, he told me that cars are either very expensive in Ivory Coast or in poor condition. And that for payment, he needed my name and address (so far, no risk).
A day passed, he contacted me again and said there would be taxes to pay to unlock the money, as the tax authorities are very strict regarding money laundering.
I replied that there was no way I was sending money (by check and in the name of the so-called responsible person Demetrio Alvarez) to a supposed post office abroad. And at that point, he almost convinced me because he gave me the address of the nearest post office to my home. Worse still, he gave me a reference to enter on the Western Union site to prove his good faith and even scanned the proof of the money deposit (including the surcharge) and a copy of his passport, but too quickly. Still a bit suspicious since public service checks are rarely in a specific name. Here's his last message:
"Hello,
I've just sent you a transfer this morning of €11,150 instead of €10,300 in anticipation of the taxes required by the tax service for all international mandates of this type. The control office will contact you this morning to proceed with the regularization and validation of the mandate; I count on you to ensure this is done as quickly as possible so that we can continue with the transaction.
P.S.: I therefore urge you to urgently contact Mr. Demetrio Alvarez to regularize your situation and collect your money today. His contact: 0022505614380
you will find attached the payment receipt.
Best regards.
Charles"
I called a number he provided in Ivory Coast (the so-called post office) and questioned them. The guy almost yelled at me because I hadn’t withdrawn the money and that they were going to be in trouble because the tax authorities would be on their back.
And there, he made a first mistake Richard Charles, because he called me on my work phone (how did he get my phone number?). And to confirm, I looked up a Richard Charles in Epinal (88) in the phone book. I called him and the poor guy told me this isn’t the first time. A friend of mine from Ivory Coast had a conversation with him, and I will try to file a complaint because apparently there are services that deal with that.
There you go, sorry it's long but if it can help prevent other sellers from wasting their time...
Happy selling everyone
Have a good evening.
Hello
after experiencing the woes of the Western Union scam that you mentioned earlier, here’s a very original one
1) Hello, I’m interested in your car and I’ll take it right away, call me at 06 .........
I naturally call but no one answers and their voicemail is full, but on the greeting message, it says that you can also reach them at 0899 ........
where you learn that the call costs 1.34 and 34 cents per minute
There you go, I left 4 euros and no one answered
To each their own
after experiencing the woes of the Western Union scam that you mentioned earlier, here’s a very original one
1) Hello, I’m interested in your car and I’ll take it right away, call me at 06 .........
I naturally call but no one answers and their voicemail is full, but on the greeting message, it says that you can also reach them at 0899 ........
where you learn that the call costs 1.34 and 34 cents per minute
There you go, I left 4 euros and no one answered
To each their own
Hello, I almost fell for it too.
I posted an ad to sell a car on Le Bon Coin, and I received an email from which here is a copy:
These scammers even threaten to come, so I didn't reply, and I'm being harassed with messages from so-called buyers on my phone from numbers starting with 06...
I don't know what to do anymore. On which other site can we sell our car without risking these scams? Thank you in advance.
I posted an ad to sell a car on Le Bon Coin, and I received an email from which here is a copy:
Hello sir, would it be possible to see more photos of the left front door and come to see the car this Saturday afternoon? Is your price firm and final? Thank you.
These scammers even threaten to come, so I didn't reply, and I'm being harassed with messages from so-called buyers on my phone from numbers starting with 06...
I don't know what to do anymore. On which other site can we sell our car without risking these scams? Thank you in advance.
Jules,.....
"Hello sir, would it be possible to see more photos regarding the left front door and to come see the car this Saturday afternoon? Is your price firm and final?
Thank you."
....who says you're being scammed??? The 06.... are mobile numbers!!!
and to finish,
when I want something on Le Bon Coin, I send an email roughly the same kind and possibly call.... I'm not a scammer..... and if no one responds, then they shouldn't post an ad, right!
"Hello sir, would it be possible to see more photos regarding the left front door and to come see the car this Saturday afternoon? Is your price firm and final?
Thank you."
....who says you're being scammed??? The 06.... are mobile numbers!!!
and to finish,
when I want something on Le Bon Coin, I send an email roughly the same kind and possibly call.... I'm not a scammer..... and if no one responds, then they shouldn't post an ad, right!
I received enticing and fraudulent money offers myself following the sale of a BMW vehicle; it's a shame that I had to pay for my ad, which I had to remove.
It's funny, it's exactly the same address as yours Lorens84 last night at 11:45 PM.
Already the weird thing Richard when the guy would be named André :W
But I realized it was a scam given the phone number.
Already the weird thing Richard when the guy would be named André :W
But I realized it was a scam given the phone number.
Same for the text message I received at 10:49 PM on November 12 with the email address cac.richard@live.fr signed by Mr. André.
At that moment, I was happy; he asked me for my bank details to make a bank transfer of 5,100 euros. The next day I received an email telling me that I need to pay a tax of 480 euros to have the funds in my bank account later, and this tax amount would be refunded to me because he is sending me 55,480 euros instead of 5,100 euros. I immediately understood that it was a scam, so I decided to cancel the sale, and Mr. was not happy, supposedly I was wasting his time LOL. So please be careful.
At that moment, I was happy; he asked me for my bank details to make a bank transfer of 5,100 euros. The next day I received an email telling me that I need to pay a tax of 480 euros to have the funds in my bank account later, and this tax amount would be refunded to me because he is sending me 55,480 euros instead of 5,100 euros. I immediately understood that it was a scam, so I decided to cancel the sale, and Mr. was not happy, supposedly I was wasting his time LOL. So please be careful.
Hello,
I received a text this morning saying "Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos to the address: cac.richard74@live.fr or contact me at: 0022501436468. Urgent purchase!"
I didn't feel right about it and here's the forum this morning!
Take care and stay safe!
I received a text this morning saying "Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos to the address: cac.richard74@live.fr or contact me at: 0022501436468. Urgent purchase!"
I didn't feel right about it and here's the forum this morning!
Take care and stay safe!
Hello everyone!
Same type of scam but for a purchase, I received 3 emails in two days from different senders offering me to give my details to a fake carrier who would deliver the vehicle as soon as possible in exchange for cash, for vehicles well below their value, all with far-fetched stories, a doctor who went abroad, a couple on their honeymoon, and a retiree in a monastery, the three emails written in rather poor French that strongly resembles automatic translations, even though I’m not bad at spelling, it really smells like a scam…
Or maybe I made a typo... WWW.LE BON CON .FR
I forwarded these responses to the editorial team, no reply except for automatic emails,
disappointing!!!
Same type of scam but for a purchase, I received 3 emails in two days from different senders offering me to give my details to a fake carrier who would deliver the vehicle as soon as possible in exchange for cash, for vehicles well below their value, all with far-fetched stories, a doctor who went abroad, a couple on their honeymoon, and a retiree in a monastery, the three emails written in rather poor French that strongly resembles automatic translations, even though I’m not bad at spelling, it really smells like a scam…
Or maybe I made a typo... WWW.LE BON CON .FR
I forwarded these responses to the editorial team, no reply except for automatic emails,
disappointing!!!
Hello, I just got scammed too using the same method.
Beware, because these people now have my phone number.
Beware, because these people now have my phone number.
Well, if you haven't given any personal information, you can sleep easy. Besides having been wronged (in different ways), there won't be any repercussions.
It's fine to file a report.
It's fine to file a report.
Same here
I just received a text message following an ad posted on leboncoin.fr
The text message (exactly as it is with punctuation and capitalization) came from the following number +0631742758:
Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos at the address: benrol.bartier@live.fr or contact me at: 0022501436468. Urgent purchase!
Thanks to the first post, it allowed me to search on Google and immediately come across this discussion thread. So, I never responded to this scammer!!!
I just received a text message following an ad posted on leboncoin.fr
The text message (exactly as it is with punctuation and capitalization) came from the following number +0631742758:
Hi, is your vehicle still available??? Please send me photos at the address: benrol.bartier@live.fr or contact me at: 0022501436468. Urgent purchase!
Thanks to the first post, it allowed me to search on Google and immediately come across this discussion thread. So, I never responded to this scammer!!!
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First, we should take the scammers at their own game. I mean, the people who operate these scams are mostly from Ivory Coast. Victims are tricked into sending money via PayPal or Western Union or have items sent to Ivory Coast that are never paid for.
The solution! Some can identify scams, either you receive a text asking you to write an email or to call a premium-rate number.
As for the premium-rate numbers, it’s France Telecom that is responsible because they host these scammers; therefore, they should be taken to court, just like Megaupload, which merely hosted content.
For the emails, if I had the guts, I would play along with them.
I would send the package after getting the address (probably in Ivory Coast) and make sure they have a nice surprise when they open the package. It depends on whether you want to be nice or a bit mean, but enough to deter them from trying again. Small packages but not always what one hopes to receive, if you catch my drift. Just need to spend a little money on shipping, not exceed the line of legality, and there you go; with a little imagination and some people, I think this could slow them down or even stop them until they find another way.
Best regards.
B-C