Virtual memory on the Honor 200 Smart...

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Hello and thank you for the response!

On the Honor 200 SMART, there is the option to virtually increase the RAM (memory), and I would like feedback from those who have the Honor 200 SMART smartphone: does activating this option actually help...? Or is it better to disable this option (virtual increase of the RAM) because it could be counterproductive or harmful to the performance of the Honor 200 SMART...?

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  1. Winux01 Posted messages 266 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   18
     

    Hello,

    Some categories of data don't need much speed and can be placed in the swap, but it has its limits; it's not RAM and it won't replace it. Drawing from storage can also slow down the loading time of heavy applications that are stored there.


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    1. brucine Posted messages 24901 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 177
       

      Hello,

      Mine (Oppo A76) has this kind of gadget (RAM 4+2)

      The question only arises for resource-hungry applications, whether individually or collectively, I’m not qualified to answer since I don’t have intensive usage.

      The virtual RAM is taken from the physical storage which is not dramatic, there are still 126 GB left.

      It will only be used by definition if the need exceeds 4 GB of RAM, where it will of course be slower than physical RAM but will then prevent the phone from crashing until full utilization.

      I assume that a heavily used phone will slow down despite possible system optimizations; it will only slow down a little more if virtual RAM is used, and heavy usage is likely to cause the processor and RAM to heat up the phone more, but I also assume that the situation is accounted for by the manufacturer.

      The benefit of this virtual RAM is therefore not certain, but I don’t see how it could be harmful beyond its limits.

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  2. Pierr10 Posted messages 13833 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   5 842
     

    Hello,

    The question is not just about Honor smartphones.

    The addition of virtual RAM is possible on most recent smartphones (exceptions: Google, Asus, Motorola, Sony, and probably others).

    I recommend reading this well-done article: https://quotidie.fr/ram-virtuelle-smartphone/

    It clearly states that virtual RAM is mainly used for applications running in the background.

    It prevents the physical RAM, already installed, from being monopolized by these applications, thus causing slowdowns of the smartphone.
    That’s the problem I encounter with my slightly older tablet (4 GB of RAM). When too many applications are open, the tablet struggles and slows down significantly. The remedy is to close these applications.
    So normally, with virtual RAM, there shouldn’t be this kind of issue.

    If you have sufficient storage, the installation of virtual RAM will be without consequences.

    In practice, if you install virtual RAM, you will probably not see any changes in your daily use, since it is normally only used for background applications.


    What is well conceived is clearly expressed,
    And the words to say it come easily.
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    1. brucine Posted messages 24901 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 177
       

      Hello,

      The one I'm going to receive soon is 12, so I shouldn't have to innovate on a problem I've never had.

      However, as phones evolve, there are more applications, and the Android base or its overlays now include questionable ones, including AI in all its forms.

      Therefore, nothing prevents maintaining fluidity by deleting applications that are useless, disabling others, or preventing them from running in the background when they can only do so on demand.

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  3. Pierr10 Posted messages 13833 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   5 842
     

    Good evening,

    I asked a computer scientist for his opinion on the matter.

    He thinks that using storage space as RAM is not a good idea. We do not exactly know how it will be used.
    It can lead to multiple writes on the flash memory, which is not designed for that (unlike RAM). In the long run, the risk is premature wear of the flash memory, which will result in a decrease in the smartphone's performance.
    So if the amount of RAM is sufficient (8 GB or more), it is better to disable this virtual memory.


    What is well conceived is clearly stated,
    And the words to say it come easily.
    (Boileau)

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    1. brucine Posted messages 24901 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 177
       

      Hello,

      It is clear that it is better to do without this virtual RAM if possible, if only because it is slower.

      On models with 8 GB of physical RAM or more, there is no reason for it to be used except for very intensive usage, which we can think also prematurely wears out the phone by making it heat up more; upon verification, my new model has 12 GB of physical RAM and 4 GB of virtual RAM that can even be increased, and it’s not clear in what circumstances it will be useful.

      The author only has 4+4, a context in which the question seems legitimate.

      Recent computers all have SSDs, and yet still have virtual files swapfile.sys and especially pagefile.sys that continue to represent virtual memory.

      It is said that since their advent, technological advancements mean that rewriting on SSDs is schematically (several factors must be taken into account, including brand and size) more likely to happen at the 10-year mark than at 5, a deadline after which few computers survive.

      One can probably extrapolate this to Flash Disks where statistically the lifespan is much shorter and rarely 5 years, due to a trend effect but also the gradual obsolescence of the Android version or even the storage size for entry-level models. 

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