LIVEBOX 5 AND WIFI REPEATER
Solvedaltesse9494 Posted messages 7 Status Membre -
Hello, I am posting my question as I have not been able to find answers to my questions online.
I have a livebox 5 in the living room and I wanted to extend my wifi network from the box to the basement via an ethernet cable that connects my living room to the basement. In the basement, I have connected a TP-LINK RE700X repeater:
1) When I connect the repeater in the basement via ethernet, I lose the initial connection in the living room (I think it's because only my repeater in the basement becomes the access point? I thought I wouldn't lose my wifi in the living room)
2) I tried to set up a mesh configuration while still connected via ethernet, but it tells me that the livebox is not compatible with mesh
3) The only solution I found is to not connect the repeater via ethernet; I can pick up a weak signal in the basement but then with a different SSID. Renaming it with the same SSID as the one in the living room makes no difference; there is no switching that takes place.
My question is, can you, with a livebox 5, maintain your wifi signal in the living room and extend the wifi from a device that receives internet via the ethernet cable to broadcast it wirelessly? If yes, what equipment? The RE700X repeater? What configuration? Is it possible with the livebox 5?
I can't find any answers online
Thanks in advance to everyone
2 réponses
Hello,
No worries, it's very common, you need to set the TP-Link to access point mode, without mesh.
Basically, there shouldn't be any reason for it to cut off your box's Wi-Fi.
You didn't mention what kind of Wi-Fi card you have, but you should dig a bit deeper into the settings and set different SSIDs between the 2.4 and 5 GHz networks of the box and the TP-Link, so that’s 4 networks (SSID names), the WPA keys can be the same.
You should also have different channels that are far enough apart between the box and the TP-Link, both in 2.4 and 5 GHz, separated by 6 in 2.4 and by 20 in 5 GHz, for example 2 / 8 and 40 / 60.
And there you go ....
But damn, those line spaces are so annoying !!
Yes,
it will require you to change depending on the location; it would be automatic if you completely lost the network, but it won't be when you receive both, you stay on the old one even if it's worse.
=> ok thanks I didn't invest in the right equipment and I'm seeing the mesh deco? Any thoughts on this equipment?
Otherwise, it's a mesh system that needs to be taken and completely cutting off the Wi-Fi from the box; at that point, there's only one SSID for everyone.
=> yes I think that would be preferable and does it matter if the Livebox 5 doesn't seem to do it? Or is it unrelated? One day I'll have to change it too.
So the idea would be, for example, to connect one access point in the living room via RJ, one access point via RJ in the basement, possibly receiver access points as needed, and have those two access points emit Wi-Fi under the same SSID while definitively cutting off the Wi-Fi from my box? I believe the RJ45 ports of the Livebox 5 are also throttled. However, would I lose the 2.4 band or could I keep it as I have radiator programmers that only know this band?
Your PC card is Wi-Fi 6 like your TP-Link, while the box is Wi-Fi 5; it may be that the PC only takes the Wi-Fi 6 and completely ignores the Wi-Fi 5, in which case you can't connect to the box, but it continues to work for other machines. Try forcing your card to Wi-Fi 5 (ac) in the device manager if the problem continues.
In repeater mode, the TP-Link being connected via Wi-Fi 5 to the box will probably repeat in Wi-Fi 5 and not in Wi-Fi 6, which would explain why it works in repeater mode.
=> thanks again for the help because either I don't know how to search or it's not very well explained on the internet, especially about compatibility with boxes.
OK,
I have a tp-link deco x50 mesh wifi system with 3 APs (configured in AP mode) and it works very well. I previously had a deco M9+ system, also with 3 APs, which I gave away, and it greatly improved the wifi for the recipient (also in AP mode). So, nothing to say about tp-link, at least in AP mode. In router mode, given the limitations, it's too restrictive for my uses.
In both wifi 5 for the M9 and wifi 6 for the AX50, the 2.4 GHz band is present without any issues. I have a netatmo home automation system with 3 devices that only use 2.4 GHz, plus 3 smart plugs, and it doesn't interfere at all, even though the wifi from the box is turned off, which is required, otherwise it's a battle on the channels.
To my knowledge, the ethernet ports on the LB5 are not throttled; that would be known.
In fact, no box really offers mesh wifi, except maybe freeboxes which have a similar behavior, but they don’t openly say it; they only talk about repeaters, so it must not be complete.
However, your RE700 repeater is said to be onemesh, and I'm not sure it's compatible with the deco mesh; it seems that it's only compatible with tp-link onemesh routers. Apparently, the two systems are different and still different from the professional omada mesh system.
Hello, I was looking to buy the x50 like you, do you think I can set up the following configuration:
1 connected to the box via RJ45 in the living room
1 connected to the same box via RJ45 in the garage
1 upstairs connected via Wi-Fi to the unit in the living room?
Will having the two connected via RJ45 cause any problems with the main concept?
From what I've understood, I can set them up in mesh with a single SSID, turn off the Wi-Fi on the box, and have both frequency bands?
Apparently not a single one in RJ, the others connecting there according to what I read on their site. I don’t know if this product exists then. I necessarily want to connect both in RJ because I need to broadcast to the upstairs and the basement, but in the basement I will be receiving a pretty poor Wi-Fi signal from the living room while I have this socket accessible.
Not at all,
in fact, one connected via Ethernet to the box is mandatory, since we will turn off the box's Wi-Fi. The first connected device becomes a sort of "master" at the base; it's the one that does the routing. However, if you set it to AP mode, it won't route anymore but will remain the master, I would say more like the captain of the team. The others can be connected via Ethernet to the box or to the first one in the same way (Ethernet backhaul), but their operation will be different from the first; they will be in a team.
So the one in the basement is the same via Ethernet. At my place, I have all three connected via Ethernet, not directly to the box but to a switch behind it, and they are very happy that way, no network loop (that happened to me with others).
Thank you for taking the time to respond to me. I'm a bit of a novice in this field.
No problem, that's very common, you need to put the TP-Link in access point mode, without mesh.
=> Understood, I will redo the operation to try to understand better.
Basically, there should be no reason for it to cut the Wi-Fi from your box.
=> I will double-check then, but that's what happened several times each time in this mode, probably a configuration issue on my part. Unless this specific equipment just works like that.
You don't mention what Wi-Fi card you have,
=> PC
Protocol: Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac)
Security type: WPA2 - Personal
Network bandwidth: 5 GHz
Network channel: 52
Connection speed (Receive/Transmit): 866/866 (Mbps)
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Description: Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX201 160MHz
Driver version: 22.40.0.7
But it also cut off on my phone.
But you should go a bit further in configuration and use different SSIDs for the 2.4 and 5 GHz networks of the box and the TP-Link, i.e. 4 networks (SSID names), the WPA keys can be the same.
=> on the repeater I have indeed two distinct SSIDs for the two frequency bands, on the livebox although activated from what I see on the interface I have only one visible SSID.
You also need different channels that are sufficiently spaced between the box and the TP-Link, both in 2.4 and 5 GHz, spaced by 6 in 2.4 and by 20 in 5 GHz, for example, 2/8 and 40/60.
=> I will look into it as this concept is new to me.
1) Ultimately, from what I understand, sorry if I misunderstood, but I should set it to access point configuration (repeater connected in the basement via Ethernet), have 4 visible SSIDs on the available connections but will this still require me to change the access point depending on where I am? Livebox 5GHz or Repeater 5GHz?
2) Currently, for example, I downloaded an application on my phone that scans for the best network, so it switches based on where I am, I think this is what is meant by intelligent Wi-Fi?
Yes,
it will require you to change depending on the location, it would be automatic if you completely lost the network, but it won't be when you receive both, you stick to the old one even if it's worse.
Otherwise, you need to get a mesh system and completely cut off the Wi-Fi from the box, at that point, it's a single SSID for everyone.
Your PC card is Wi-Fi 6 like your TP-Link, while the box is Wi-Fi 5, it's possible that the PC absolutely connects to Wi-Fi 6 and completely neglects Wi-Fi 5, in that case, you won't be able to connect to the box, but it continues to work for other machines, try forcing your card to Wi-Fi 5 (ac) in the device manager if the problem persists.
In repeater mode, the TP-Link being connected to the box via Wi-Fi 5 will likely repeat in Wi-Fi 5 not in Wi-Fi 6, which would explain why it works in repeater mode.