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It's pointless, the battery charge management will automatically switch it to stop as soon as it is charged; you shouldn't try to modify these settings.
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charge the battery for the first time
Well, the first time we go to the computer manual to see the procedure recommended by the manufacturer.
On the HP support site, you can register your product, download manuals, they mention that upon the first connection there are a lot of updates that get the laptop working.
There are HP tools for diagnostics, maintenance, HP warranty of the hardware, personalized advice if needed, you should use it.
You need to do the first charge correctly and calmly, don't unplug everything. It's not finished for me.
https://support.hp.com/en-us/help/computer/battery-adapter-issues
The charging doesn't always happen at the same intensity.
At first, it goes fast, then it slows down a lot for the last few % on my end, which can give the impression that it's stuck. It's lithium batteries, and HP decides what's best for it.
You interrupted the charge by unplugging at 98-99%, now it won't restart until the battery goes down to maybe 90 or 85%, I don't know about yours. You won't get 100% right away, it's normal.
Unlike standard batteries, lithium batteries wear out when not in use.
It needs to be left in all the time.
Ps: also see what I said to a user of a new MSI laptop under win11.
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-37949738-batterie-pc-portable-bloque-a-91#1
Hello and thank you Pierre for the response.
Regarding these new batteries, apparently it's better to charge them only up to 90% and avoid the 90/100% range (according to what I just read online since there's no user manual with my new PC).
I’m willing to follow this advice of a maximum of 90%, but "before" it was recommended to do an initial charge to 100% and then completely discharge it to 0%, but it seems this is no longer advised now.
It's not by not including a user manual in the box of new equipment that we will know how to use it... especially if we don't have another source of connection.
Hello, as Flo88 mentioned, this usually happens automatically,
I would add that it would be interesting to know your main usage; for example, if you use your laptop plugged in 80% of the time, the battery may deteriorate quite quickly, as lithium-ion batteries do not like being constantly overcharged.
> If your question concerns this aspect, there is a setting that allows you to protect the battery by charging it only to 60%, which will prolong the battery's lifespan.
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Yes, well...
I just changed it for another reason (it has a random power failure every week or every two weeks, probably a matter of dust buildup and overheating otherwise it always works), I have a laptop from 2016-2017 that runs 24/7 on AC with a removable battery.
In terms of "rapid deterioration," it's doing just fine, thank you.
Hello, when I talk about rapid deterioration, I mean a decline in the performance and quality of the battery. And not necessarily and mandatorily a deterioration that could lead to a battery being out of service.
We all have devices like tablets or laptops, whose battery doesn't hold up, but can still be used on mains power without any problem.
My contribution as an electronics technician aims to provide assistance in order to prolong the excellence of the battery. Lithium-ion batteries have some specific characteristics, and well-informed advice can help maintain their optimal performance for a longer duration.
Here are some elements, among others:
- Lithium-ion batteries do not like deep discharges, as well as continuous overcharging.
- Lithium-ion batteries can lose their calibration over time; it is necessary to recalibrate them without inflicting a deep discharge.
- In case of storage and non-use for a long period, care must be taken that the battery is charged between 40% and 60%, otherwise oxidation of the cathode will occur very quickly, which will greatly complicate recharging.
- The optimal operating range for a lithium-ion battery is around 40%! A lithium battery loves to operate at 40% charge.
- As for laptops that are very often used while plugged into the mains, if you want to maintain your battery's performance, you should avoid keeping the battery charged between 90% and 100%! Therefore, there is a parameter to set a charge limit between 60% and 80%! This will preserve the battery's performance for a longer duration (the battery will be somewhat put in storage mode in this restricted charge mode at 60%).
The proof that it is not, at least by example, which like any example is not proof: in the case I mentioned, the battery is still in place and charged to 100%.
It works perfectly if I restart the PC while unplugged.
It runs the same urban myths about batteries as it does for SSDs, no matter what you do, the lifespan is statistically limited; I suppose if there were a need to "optimize" it (that's the case for certain uninterruptible power supplies or cars), the manufacturer would have done it.
Now, if it lasts 8 or 10 years (mine is headed that way), it's other components or software that will often make the PC unusable, right?
Thank you for this clarification, Brucine. It's also worth noting that lithium-ion batteries really prefer to be used; it's difficult to maintain good performance in a battery that doesn't operate often. The average lifespan of a lithium-ion battery is around 7 years.
The quality of the battery's manufacturing is also very important! For example, a Samsung battery (^_^) Y *will surely have a much higher lifespan, charge retention, and performance over time;)
Hello to Jin from response 4/4.
Following your question "If your question concerns this aspect, there is a setting that helps protect the battery by charging it only to 60%, which will prolong the battery's lifespan."
I respond yes, that's exactly it, I work on this laptop at home and therefore I would have liked to avoid wearing out my brand-new battery since I have the possibility of being plugged into the mains, but since now the batteries are no longer removable, I think they take a hit from being continuously charged while plugged in. And so I wanted to know if there is a setting to "disconnect" the battery while working on mains power. ??
Because for me currently, as soon as it’s charged, I unplug it and plug it back in once it reaches 30%. Isn’t there a solution, because it’s really too silly!!! It’s just wasting all the resources for nothing. Using/breaking/throwing away constantly.
Hello to you too, very well. I believe I understand that you are looking for the "smart charge" option; I seemed to have seen a note about it on Windows 11! Despite my research, I can no longer put my finger on it.
However, each manufacturer offers a certain management of "smart charge". You can also find third-party software that simply allows you to block the charge at 60% or recalibrate it to that threshold.
As for HP computers, the manufacturer offers this solution:
HP Battery Health Manager
Here is some documentation on this subject that I invite you to read:
https://support.hp.com/en-us/document/ish_4611788-4493611-16
To find the solution compatible with your computer, you would need to enter the specifications of your device on the HP website.
Another thing, I would like to know how to "remove" the Photoshop software from my old desktop PC in order to reinstall it on my new laptop? I don't have the software, it was the person who put together my desktop PC who installed this Photoshop, and I don't know how to do it now. That person is no longer with us.
Hello,
Rather than the vague answers you are used to, you should indicate how to the community.
One should not confuse the transfer of software from disk to disk and between two computers.
The latter possibility is, to my knowledge, only the result of a certain number of utilities (most often paid) and non-specific: it is not a matter of choosing a specific software to transfer, but of transferring a global system image.
Even if this becomes possible, the fate of the license will not be managed, either by needing to retrieve it from the old PC (which is not always possible), or by needing to activate it online.
Good evening,
"You should therefore indicate how to the community."
- One must be aware of the charter that governs the rules of the forum.
If you have purchased the software legally, you can contact the technical support of the software provider. They will be able to help you recover your activation key, usually by verifying your identity and your purchase.
Some third-party tools may help you recover license keys from an existing installation. However, this could violate the terms of use of the legally acquired software, (so it is necessary to inquire once again by contacting the technical support of the software provider).
In the case of a simple transfer of installed software between computers,
here is a search that can be undertaken:
"How to copy/transfer an already installed program to another computer."
- From a search engine, you will find well-explained tutorials that are easily accessible.
(In any case, I remind you once again to ensure that nothing violates the terms of use of your legally acquired software.)
Initially, there is no question of recovering the license or its legality, assuming that the license in question will ultimately be installed on only one machine if its conditions do not prohibit reinstallation (this is the case for certain software whose online activation is for one-time use): the charter has nothing to do with this.
I will be told that it is simpler to download the software in question on the new PC and to deal with the license later, except that the software we are using may very well be in a version that is no longer available for download, but all of this is just details.
The fundamental question, to which you still do not respond, is how to make this transfer; if the possibility only exists through a paid utility, which is prohibited, it is not about naming it, but about circumventing this payment.
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You mean the battery isn't "working" when I'm plugged in?
Because it's quite a shame to "wear out" the battery while I'm plugged in; before we could remove the battery, but now it's impossible, you have to take off the back.
The laptop is brand new, and I just charged the battery for the first time, and it got stuck at 98%, and when I unplugged the charger, it showed 99%. What should I think about this? Why didn't it show 100%? For your information, I was using the laptop while it was charging, and it was installing all its updates.
A 0% discharge will destroy the battery.... it's called deep discharge, if we reach it, it's over! This advice dates back 20 years for nickel/cadmium batteries... long before lithium batteries.
But in fact, there is nothing to know to operate the battery.... just keep your laptop plugged in wherever you can. That's it. The only thing to avoid is letting it fully discharge, that destroys the battery.
My first answer stands on its own, everything is there, nothing more, nothing less.
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