Save Android contacts

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jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member -  
jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member -
Hello,
I reiterate my question, following an error.
Is it possible to save the list of contacts from a Samsung A8 without entrusting them to Google or Samsung, or another app?

Of course, we can transfer file by file, it's tedious (especially via Bluetooth) and there's no incrementing from one time to the next; no updates. You have to redo everything.

I'm a bit surprised that there isn't a copyleft app to automate this transfer and avoid sharing your personal phonebook with Google.

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  1. Pierr10 Posted messages 13828 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   5 840
     
    Hello,

    Export to the SIM card.

    --
    What is well conceived is expressed clearly,
    And the words to say it come easily.
    (Boileau)
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  2. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Thank you Pierr

    And the operation is done in one go, not file by file, right?

    And then we take out the SIM card to copy onto a USB?
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  3. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    PS isn't the number limited to 100 on SIM?

    Is a second operation the addition of new items (incrementing)?
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    1. brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 169
       
      Hello,

      It's not clear, MyPhoneExplorer does the job without any problem (app on the phone and software on the PC), but I understand that you're on a Mac, in which case we would need to find an equivalent.
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      1. brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 169 > brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
         
        In the last hypothesis, and although this is not its primary purpose, Samsung Switch must also do the job, but without incremental backup.
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  4. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    I will try to clarify my first message.

    I want to preserve my privacy, it's my right, by trying to save my phone directory to a USB stick; just like my photos.

    So I don't want to give them to Google or Samsung, or anyone else who will sell them (can I trust MyphoneExplorer?)
    who will start by storing them in gigantic installations, backed up for safety, which contribute to the scorching climate disruption.

    Spending a crazy amount of money to provide a service, without profit?
    Some hackers make a living reselling personal data.

    When an app is free, the product is you.
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    1. brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 169
       
      We are here to try to solve a computer problem, not to make political considerations; we understood perfectly without you specifying anything that you want to store this data offline, the rest is off-topic.

      Regarding MyPhoneExplorer, it asks for permissions to manage phone calls and SMS from the phone to the PC and vice versa (provided that the latter has telephony capabilities), but strictly restricts communications between the PC and the phone via Wifi, Bluetooth, or USB (even if it is not the case on the PC that we block via firewall and that we talk about something else).

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fjsoft.myphoneexplorer.client

      One thing is certain, I do not remember being asked for network permissions (no more than for Samsung Switch, which I used once to help a neighbor), and if that had been the case, I would have refused, yet both function.

      But you still haven't specified if it was under Windows, otherwise it's not even worth trying.

      There are several incremental backup software or applications available, all commercial and paid, and also some with local storage, which I only know by name and whose confidentiality I know even less.
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    2. Pierr10 Posted messages 13828 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   5 840
       
      Hello,

      What is the carbon footprint of your research to find software that you can easily do by hand?

      Regularly export your contacts in .csv (or other) format to a USB drive.

      The file can be opened with a spreadsheet (it's better to use LibreOffice rather than Excel) and edited by hand, if it amuses you.
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      1. brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 169 > Pierr10 Posted messages 13828 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention  
         
        Hello,


        it's better to use LibreOffice rather than Excel


        Why? Always stories about confidentiality? (If we censor telemetry and other CrapWare in Excel, it's not that difficult, but we also have to do it in Windows).
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  5. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    If I explained it, it was to address the comment "It's not clear."
    ...By explaining why, as it seemed obvious that I needed to use MyphoneExplorer.
    The mobile is running Android (see the title) and my phone is on Windows

    no solution on Linux?

    Thank you for your interest.
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    1. brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 169
       
      It definitely requires forceps: what isn't clear and what you were asked for, since you didn't specify, is whether you're using Windows, given that you previously asked Mac questions on this forum.

      Of course, if it's not Windows, MyPhoneExplorer is irrelevant, but since I'm a nice guy, I also provided a Mac alternative (Smart Switch, since we're dealing with a Samsung) just in case.

      Under Linux, as far as I remember, you need to use scrcpy, although some tinkers have tried MyPhoneExplorer via complicated scripts or through Wine; Smart Switch, to my knowledge, is not compatible with Linux.
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  6. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Thank you Pierr
    my knowledge is limited;
    I have previously exported csv files, but as mentioned in the presentation, it's "file by file" so it's long and tedious. It would be less so if there was an incremental option.
    Is there a way to only copy the contacts that were added or modified since a given date?
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    1. Pierr10 Posted messages 13828 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   5 840
       
      No, it's not file by file! It's the entire set of contacts that is exported.

      On a smartphone, the export is done in .vcf format (and not .csv as I had written).

      For example, for contacts managed by Samsung,
      - you open the app
      - you click on the 3 bars at the top left and choose Contact Management
      - then Import/Export Contacts
      - and finally export.

      You choose the storage location (internal memory or SD card).
      A Contacts.vcf file is created (usually in downloads).

      It's a text file that can be opened in Notepad or with Windows Contacts.
      It can also be converted to .csv.
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  7. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    ordi: I've never had a Mac; but for a while, I used Wdws/lubuntu
    mobile: before Android, I was on Wdws (Nokia)
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    1. brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 169
       
      Indeed, my tongue slipped; the history of your messages shows Linux, not Mac, but as I illustrated, when it's not Windows, it's less straightforward (except for iOS/Mac).
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  8. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    1 Transfer to SD: What is the app in question?
    I simply open "Contacts" and follow the procedure (Ssung A8). It appears to be file by file; do you have to wait a long time for the automatic transition to the next one?
    You can skip the incrementing by opening a new target folder each time.
    I'll give it a try;
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  9. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Hello,
    I wanted to save my contact list locally, thus avoiding sharing it with anyone, just like I do with my photos, expressed in the following way

    Is it possible to save the contact list from a Samsung A8 mobile without entrusting it to Google or Samsung, or any other app?

    Of course, one can transfer file by file, it's long (especially via Bluetooth) and there’s no incremental update; nothing gets updated. Everything has to be done all over again.


    Unfortunately, the responses did not meet these privacy preservation criteria.

    My conclusion: it must be impossible.
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    1. brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 169
       
      Hello,

      We have known for a while that it is impossible to square the circle: a smartphone is necessarily GAFAM, except for example Blackberry, and merely using an Android phone is GAFAM by definition.

      To connect to it from a PC running Windows and even without using any application, you need either Wi-Fi or Bluetooth drivers, which is Microsoft, or an adb USB driver, which is Android and therefore Google.

      We don't see, as I have already said, how Samsung Switch or MyPhoneExplorer infringes on your privacy, and even if they did, Android applications allow you to block certain types of access, notify you of the ones they require, and you can always choose not to install them if it is not possible to manage these permissions. On the PC side, the question is even simpler: as soon as the software in question requests Internet access, you can simply block it with a firewall.
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    2. Pierr10 Posted messages 13828 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   5 840
       
      Hello

      Is it possible to save the contact list from a Samsung A8 mobile without entrusting it to Google or Samsung, or another app?


      Yes! Just disable synchronization.

      The transfer to another device is not done file by file. We transfer the entire set of contacts (in .csv or .vcf format). I have already explained all this, but apparently you haven't read it or haven't understood it.
      The Bluetooth transfer is quick, as these are generally small files.

      I can't quite understand exactly what you want.
      If you want automatic updates, you will have to go through the network and probably the cloud. This is what everyone does.
      Don't think that a developer is going to waste time creating a contact management application when existing ones do the job just fine.

      Your obsession with privacy protection makes no sense for contact management.
      Google or Microsoft are not going to compromise themselves by selling contact lists like low-level crooks.
      Moreover, the information is duplicated among all contacts and is likely present on dozens of computers.
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      1. brucine Posted messages 24845 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 169 > Pierr10 Posted messages 13828 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention  
         
        Hello,

        And the fact that using Windows 10 and above for this synchronization makes it impossible to disable all bloatware and telemetry collection, which doesn't seem to be done by many people: you can't disable Edge, which will always run in the background unless you block it through the firewall with undesirable results (it's used internally by Windows on the local machine), generally you can't prevent Windows from connecting to Windows Update or checking licenses or the so-called security measures, it's impossible to use Office without allowing OfficeClickToRun...
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  10. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Squaring the circle: Everything has been said!
    Thank you
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