Fiber cable for Livebox
Yann
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Hello,
I have a cable that was installed during the construction of my house in 2009 between my garage and my living room. Now that I have fiber (fiber point in the garage), I would like to use this cable to connect my Livebox (fiber 2gb).
Here is what I can read on the side of the cable:
delta 8 / ihc net basic wb cable pimf 4x2xawg23 lsfroh
Is this an ethernet cable or VDI??? What can be inferred about the speed of this cable or its grade? Is it sufficient for the Livebox fiber or do I need to change it?
Thank you for your help
Yann
I have a cable that was installed during the construction of my house in 2009 between my garage and my living room. Now that I have fiber (fiber point in the garage), I would like to use this cable to connect my Livebox (fiber 2gb).
Here is what I can read on the side of the cable:
delta 8 / ihc net basic wb cable pimf 4x2xawg23 lsfroh
Is this an ethernet cable or VDI??? What can be inferred about the speed of this cable or its grade? Is it sufficient for the Livebox fiber or do I need to change it?
Thank you for your help
Yann
9 answers
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Hi,
apparently, these are 4 pairs of a section of 0.57 mm².
Nothing is marked, but it could be a twisted cable usable up to a certain limit in ethernet.
Can’t you see more?
Google tells us that it could...
Brupala, any idea?
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A+ blux"Les cons, ça ose tout.
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Thank you for your response, blux. I will try to see if I can find more information about the cable. Nothing on Google anyway... Initially, the house was wired with Schneider Alvidis VDI. I never needed to use that cable which was also installed by the electrician. But now that I have fiber, I'm limited to 100 Mega with my VDI wiring...
That's why it's important to use a high-performance and direct cable and to place the box in the living room.
I don't know if the electrician used the same wiring as for the rest of the network... At worst, I hope to be able to use this cable as a pass-through and pull a new one if this one is not sufficient... -
jeannets Posted messages 28395 Registration date Status Contributor Last intervention Ambassadeur 6 603
Good evening,
Your cable should be of this kind https://www.reichelt.com/fr/fr/c-ble-de-pose-cat-7-stp-pimf-100-m-4x2-awg23-1-100-p37307.html?CCOUNTRY=443&LANGUAGE=fr
It's a shielded 4 pair... it should be capable of making an Ethernet connection from the garage to the living room...
Especially if it is already equipped with RJ45 sockets at both ends... Otherwise, it will need to be done (or have it done)
It must be category 6 or 7 which is very good...
You must have made transcription errors while reading what is on the cable... respect the spaces and dashes..
The first word must be DATA and not delta... for example. -
So, given the photo, the colors are those of TIA-568, so we are dealing with Ethernet. However, we need to know more; by stripping a bit of the sheath, we should see its type and we can deduce a theoretical speed...
That's why it's important to use a high-performance and direct cable and to place the box in the living room.
Well, actually, your box is the one that decodes the fiber signal to provide you with Ethernet, so putting it in the living room won't bring you anything (or am I wrong if you have a box in two parts...).
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A+ blux"People who are foolish dare to do anything.
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Hello,
do you want to use a cable between what and what?
between a PC and the box or between ONT and the box?
At first glance at the photo, I think the cable should handle gigabit effortlessly, especially since it shouldn't be 100m but rather 10, I bet.
However,
But now that I have fiber, I'm limited to 100 Mega due to my VDI wiring...
are you talking about another cable?
what is VDI wiring for you, because over time that encompasses quite a few different things that have evolved well, from grade 1 to grade 3, roughly from cat5 to cat 7 on the other scale.
But in any case, cat 5 and grade 1 are sufficient for gigabit especially at 20m, if it's properly wired to the sockets.
By the way, why is there a cut cable in the photo when I understand that it's installed on sockets in the Alvidis wiring system?
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Hello, and thank you very much for your responses.
Indeed, I wasn't very clear in my explanations ;)
When building the house in 2009, I wasn't very keen on wifi and had a VDI network installed (which is not what I would do today…). The communication box is in the garage and was powered by ADSL, which barely provided 7 megabytes… So the live box was in the garage with the wifi turned off. The TV box was powered by the VDI network. Then I eventually placed a wifi router in the center of the house, connected to the VDI network, to have wifi everywhere, including in the garden.
After being on the verge of arrival for 2 years, fiber finally reached the house last month. The fiber point was installed in the garage near the panel and the communication box. I thus powered my VDI network with fiber just as I did before with ADSL, using a TV box and a wifi repeater connected to the RJ45 ports of the VDI network. However, since this VDI wiring handles "everything," the ethernet part is limited to 100 megabytes. So the benefit of having fiber is limited to 100 megabytes, which is already much better than before!!!
Therefore, I had two ideas to fully take advantage of the fiber:
- using the wifi from the live box in the garage as a starting point for a mesh network with 3 or 4 repeaters to provide wifi to the house and the garden. Since the wifi signal is starting from quite a distance from the living areas and there are load-bearing walls in between, I was afraid I would need to use quite a few repeaters and generate a lot of wifi waves for not necessarily a very good result in terms of speed…. ?
- using that famous cable that my electrician had run as an extra “just in case” I wanted to connect my live box positioned behind the TV in the living room directly from the panel. This cable goes from behind the panel in the garage and arrives behind the TV in the living room. It should measure between 15 and 20 meters. It’s the piece of cable in the photo (living room side). The other end of the cable is behind the panel somewhere, but I haven’t found it yet. They were never wired and are bare on both sides. So I thought that with this solution I would have all the power for the TV box, which would be right next to the Livebox and connected via cable, and wifi starting from the living room with the maximum speed (possibly coupled with a repeater in wifi if needed).
What do you think??? I’m open to your advice….
Have a good day
Yann -
Hello,
good, I understand a bit more, except for one thing:
But since this VDI wiring does “everything,” the Ethernet part is limited to 100 mega.
No, that doesn't explain it, sorry, it's probably poorly wired.
This Alvidis, is it a automatic patch panel?
If so, it is possible that it brings limitations; indeed, it's better to dismantle it and replace it with a manual patch panel, it will be all beneficial.
Does the Alvidis have an integrated switch?
Maybe just the switch needs to be replaced or bypassed.
You should provide the exact model of the thing.
Otherwise,
your cable should work, definitely yes, with connectors on the end, of course.
Also:
When the house was built in 2009, I wasn't really a fan of Wi-Fi, and I had a VDI network installed (it's not what I would do today…)
Today it’s absolutely necessary, so you wouldn't have a choice, except the automatic patching, which is not mandatory and is better avoided for the lack of flexibility it introduces; it’s supposed to bring simplicity, but it only brings complications.
Finally,
Forget your project with Wi-Fi repeaters, it wouldn’t be better than powerline modems, and probably worse than your current 100 Mbit/s.
In fact, a better idea would be a mesh Wi-Fi network if we want all Wi-Fi, but it's a shame (but not incompatible) when we have integrated wiring; it can be complementary for mobility or certain smart devices.
Is this the kind you have?
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Yes, that's right! It's a case with an automatic switch that allows sending TV, phone, or internet to each outlet interchangeably. And it switches based on the connected device. But it’s not really suitable for the new constraints and for TV and phone over the internet...
Indeed, I had understood that my limitation to 100 Mbps came from the cable (I think I read that somewhere online). But if the limitation comes from the case or the switch, that would be good news! I could indeed switch to a manual case and keep my existing setup.
(In one of the images, we can see that the switch is indeed a 10/100 Mbps)
