VHS to PC digitization problem.

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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   -
Hello, for some time now I have bought a capture box to be able to record my VHS tapes on my computer. But I have a problem: the video shakes a lot, while everything is normal on the camcorder. And this issue only occurs during playback of the tape, not in the video feed from the camera.
Thank you in advance

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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 198
 
Hello,
We are a few regular contributors on the forum warning you, given the desperate messages from internet users, about using this type of "cheap" 4-wire key bought online:
however, there are "tutorials" on YouTube made by people who have seemingly managed to get this equipment to work; check them out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43tutdI_SVc
For our part, we only recommend the "Dazzle" box, reliable, well-known, and widespread, delivered complete with editing software and compatible with Windows 10, but it costs around €60
https://www.pinnaclesys.com/fr/products/dazzle/dvd-recorder-hd/

And you can resell it once the work is done on eBay or Le Bon Coin

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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
You're absolutely right Andy31200. Personally, I used a capture card and a powerful PC. I never had any issues capturing images from a VHS tape, except for the quality, of course!
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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
AAAAh! But that's your problem. You need to export your video from the camcorder to the computer, precisely using this device. There's no point in having this device otherwise. It's specifically used to digitize analog videos (VHS).
If it's just to watch a video on the camcorder, you connect it to your computer. By the way, how do you connect it, what type of cable?
There's no interest in playing a video on your computer. You need to record it. And for that, you must export it. It's completely different.

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pierre29
 
That's my problem, but I also want to record it; however, the issue I showed in the previous video comes back when I do the digital recording on the computer. I connect it via composite to the camcorder and via USB to the computer.
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kiki
 
BRAVO sir, you have patience and an enormous sense of help that I appreciate because Pierre speaks in dribs and drabs and it’s you who seeks out the information, a thousand congratulations sir.
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glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 088
 
Hello, I don't understand " And this problem occurs during the playback of the cassette but not in the video return from the camera. a little more explanation
and provide the brand of your case

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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
Hi idiot, I was just about to ask the same question!
But I think, after reflection, that he is reading the video from the camera to the PC. Right?
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 198 > txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention  
 
No, our friend wants to digitize his tapes on the PC using a capture device.
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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610 > Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention  
 
Hi Andy, I understood well but this is what I was talking about:
"And this problem was noticed when watching the tape but not in the camera's video output".
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pierre29
 
For further explanation, in the camcorder's video menu with the output to the computer, the video is clear, but when watching a tape, the output to the computer is of poor quality. My box is the Digitnow BR117. I also tried changing computers and cables, but without success.



I would also like to send a video to better illustrate my problem, but I don't know how to do that.
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 198
 
Hello,
I can sense it coming:

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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
Hello pierre29
" video menu of the camcorder with the return on the computer the video is clear": Should we understand here that you are playing the tape on the camcorder?
"when watching a tape the return on the computer is of poor quality": here, are you playing the tape that is on your camcorder through the computer? (the camcorder being recognized by your computer as a device).
Can you take a screenshot of your computer screen?
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pierre29
 
I link the video with my computer and the issue.

https://youtu.be/MgBdg6tXzxQ

I also tried the same box on a DVD player, and there, no more image issues. The problem only occurs with the video cassettes.
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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
The image we see on the computer is what you recorded from the camcorder? Or is it the image that you view ON the camcorder?
Did you try to restart the export?
Normally, the duration should be the same on both. I no longer understand anything.
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pierre29
 
To clarify, on the computer, this is what I am viewing live from the camcorder.
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 198
 
So what is perverted by this filthy box

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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 198
 
I understand clearly, and I return to this:
https://forums.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-37520181-probleme-numerisation-cassette-vhs-vers-pc#8

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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
I doubt it would work via USB, hence the tremor. You would need an HDMI, S-video, or something else to import (not record) the video from the camcorder. It will last the duration of the video, it's not a copy/paste.
And this type of box often causes problems (cheap, not good). See Andy31200's response above.
Personally, I used a capture card for this, but I gave away that computer.
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kiki
 
I would like you to help me please because I have Hi8 cassettes and I just bought a Sony camera to transfer my videos to my PC or DVD.
I would like you to advise me on what good and reliable equipment to use for this operation because I was about to buy those USB acquisition keys that are found everywhere on Boncoin or Cdiscount... but when I read the reviews, I realized that they don't work, either the videos are in black and white or there is no sound... apparently it's a hassle.

Can you recommend what equipment to buy or where I can find it? Do I need a box, an acquisition key...?

Thank you very much.
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Andy31200 Posted messages 26918 Registration date   Status Modérateur Last intervention   12 198 > kiki
 
Hello,
You clearly haven't read this discussion because you could have seen:
For our part, we only recommend the "Dazzle" box, reliable, well-known, and widespread, delivered complete with the editing software and compatible with Windows 10, but it costs around €60
https://www.pinnaclesys.com/fr/products/dazzle/dvd-recorder-hd/

And we can resell it once the work is finished on eBay or Le Bon Coin.
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pierre29
 
I think I'm going to switch to another, higher quality case.

And I don't know if it's also possible for the case to intentionally distort the video, so that films can't be copied. Because the problem only occurs during playback of the tape and not otherwise.
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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
You can get advice from Glandu, who knows the subject very well (video editing forum among others).
"the box deliberately disrupts the video" No, if it's a personal film. Sometimes there is copy protection (DRM) but I don't think that's your case.

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pierre29
 
I will ask him. Thank you very much for your advice.
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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
You're welcome.
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glandu Posted messages 25506 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   4 088
 
Hello, I follow your comments to respond. I don't have a rabbit to pull out of my hat; we just need to
keep it classic for transferring your personal productions or captures. I’m not talking about VHS tapes bought in stores.
Choose a reliable device that has been consistent over time. We are unanimous among the regular contributors on the forum in choosing Dazzle rather than those 'cheap 4-wire keys' found on the web.
Then, check your VCR or camera to ensure they provide a good image.
Check the SCART to RCA connections on the box for a VCR.
Transfer the files in real-time from the media to the PC and your Dazzle software.
The files converted to MPEG2 should generally appear in the provided software album as a film.
If you can, use the editing software to arrange your films, titles, cuts, transitions, cropping, and music to eliminate any rough edges. The result from the viewer will not reflect the outcome of the export; wait for your finalized film in MPEG2 720 x 576 at a bitrate of 5,000 to 7,000 kb/s. The quality of the output will never be better than the original tape since the used codec compresses files around 4GB per hour of video, so there will be inevitable data loss.
You have tutorials on YouTube to help you step by step.
https://www.pinnaclesys.com/en/products/dazzle/dvd-recorder-hd/?msclkid=1d49863013411f4da17ee43951e85e2b&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=INT%7CEN%7CBRKWS%7CPIN%7CBing%7CRebuild&utm_term=dazzle&utm_content=Dazzle

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txiki Posted messages 6514 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   610
 
Hello idiot,
Yes, people want Hollywood Productions by connecting a cheap camcorder to a computer (laptop if possible) with a Scart cable.
When you want quality, you need suitable, quality tools. That's the minimum. Have a good Sunday everyone!
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