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Hello,
I receive daily messages in my inbox that I have no interest in, which clutter my email and annoy me greatly. Please advise me on whether I should block them or unsubscribe.
Best regards.
I receive daily messages in my inbox that I have no interest in, which clutter my email and annoy me greatly. Please advise me on whether I should block them or unsubscribe.
Best regards.
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Hello,
From what you describe, you are indeed being spammed.
Don't kid yourself: you won't get rid of it.
Setting up filters is not easy because generally there are too few options offered by email clients or webmail. I don’t know what can be done with Outlook. I’ve tried with Thunderbird and Zimbra, which have quite a lot of options.
But it's going to take dozens of filters, and the spammers' sending addresses change constantly.
So setting up filters quickly becomes a full-time job, and you will get tired of it.
Consider this inbox as permanently compromised. That doesn’t mean it’s unusable. Reserve it for online shopping. Nothing worse can happen to it.
So create one or more other inboxes that you will use for administrative correspondence or family mail.
Best regards.
From what you describe, you are indeed being spammed.
Don't kid yourself: you won't get rid of it.
Setting up filters is not easy because generally there are too few options offered by email clients or webmail. I don’t know what can be done with Outlook. I’ve tried with Thunderbird and Zimbra, which have quite a lot of options.
But it's going to take dozens of filters, and the spammers' sending addresses change constantly.
So setting up filters quickly becomes a full-time job, and you will get tired of it.
Consider this inbox as permanently compromised. That doesn’t mean it’s unusable. Reserve it for online shopping. Nothing worse can happen to it.
So create one or more other inboxes that you will use for administrative correspondence or family mail.
Best regards.
Hello
at the bottom of each message you have the option to unsubscribe or opt-out from the "Newsletter" (promotional messages)
which I have been doing forever, and I receive fewer emails than phone calls at 1 euro
at the bottom of each message you have the option to unsubscribe or opt-out from the "Newsletter" (promotional messages)
which I have been doing forever, and I receive fewer emails than phone calls at 1 euro
The issue is that at the bottom of the messages, I have neither "unsubscribe" nor "opt-out." That's the problem.
messages that do not interest me in the slightest
it's vague?! I immediately thought of ads
from whom, about what, private, ads?
an anonymized screenshot, please
it's vague?! I immediately thought of ads
from whom, about what, private, ads?
an anonymized screenshot, please
Hello villapamina,
It's important to distinguish between advertising messages from legitimate companies to which you've given your email address at least once (to place an order online or otherwise) and spam that comes from professional spammers who flood lists of addresses they've bought from hackers who stole them by breaking into email account passwords.
The former have a "unsubscribe" option that works. The latter may or may not have one. If they do have one and you click "unsubscribe" with the latter, you are just confirming to the spammer that this address is valid, and therefore marketable. If they don’t have one, to avoid receiving them, use filters in email software that allow you to filter based on the source address or the content of a title or the text of an email.
The problem is that spammers constantly change their sending addresses, so filters based on the email address are often ineffective. Only email client software like Outlook or Thunderbird has advanced filtering capabilities. A webmail service generally only has a rudimentary blacklist that filters solely based on the address.
If you receive too much spam, as a last resort, change your email address and share it only with close contacts.
With providers that allow multiple email accounts (secondary accounts), do not share your primary address because it is the one that allows password resets for a secondary account. Set up a secondary account for friends and family and another secondary account that you will systematically share with every online store that requires an email address. This last account will be the one that gets spammed.
It's important to distinguish between advertising messages from legitimate companies to which you've given your email address at least once (to place an order online or otherwise) and spam that comes from professional spammers who flood lists of addresses they've bought from hackers who stole them by breaking into email account passwords.
The former have a "unsubscribe" option that works. The latter may or may not have one. If they do have one and you click "unsubscribe" with the latter, you are just confirming to the spammer that this address is valid, and therefore marketable. If they don’t have one, to avoid receiving them, use filters in email software that allow you to filter based on the source address or the content of a title or the text of an email.
The problem is that spammers constantly change their sending addresses, so filters based on the email address are often ineffective. Only email client software like Outlook or Thunderbird has advanced filtering capabilities. A webmail service generally only has a rudimentary blacklist that filters solely based on the address.
If you receive too much spam, as a last resort, change your email address and share it only with close contacts.
With providers that allow multiple email accounts (secondary accounts), do not share your primary address because it is the one that allows password resets for a secondary account. Set up a secondary account for friends and family and another secondary account that you will systematically share with every online store that requires an email address. This last account will be the one that gets spammed.
Thank you for your replies.
This morning again, I received about thirty of these messages (cpam, poirier your payment, louvier your payment ….Lapierre, mark, sade your delivery…..etc …..) that do not have the "unsubscribe" option.
I will ask my son to set me up in "Outlook," but only this summer because he is in Brittany. I will suffer for a few more months.
This morning again, I received about thirty of these messages (cpam, poirier your payment, louvier your payment ….Lapierre, mark, sade your delivery…..etc …..) that do not have the "unsubscribe" option.
I will ask my son to set me up in "Outlook," but only this summer because he is in Brittany. I will suffer for a few more months.
Indeed, I am quite spammed.
Thank you for all this information. I will need to enlist my son this summer to create another email account that will be reserved exclusively for family and administrative matters.
Have a nice day.
Best regards.
Thank you for all this information. I will need to enlist my son this summer to create another email account that will be reserved exclusively for family and administrative matters.
Have a nice day.
Best regards.
Hello,
Like many polluted by spam messages, I looked for a way to clean up before receiving messages. I analyzed the headers of the messages and noticed that there are different markings depending on the service providers.
For example, with Free we have
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailKnown score=7" or
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailGeneric score=17
I found the following correspondences:
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM score=0
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:SocialNetwork score=1
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailKnown score=7
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailGeneric score=17
So by creating a filter on 7 and 17 and sending everything to a pub directory, I removed practically the entirety of my final inbox of all advertising messages.
With Orange, the marking is different: it is "X-me-spamcause: (17)". We find the 17 here. So the same thing by creating a filter on this marking, all messages are sent to the pub folder.
My question, because there is a question, is whether anyone has the correspondence of all the marking values.
1- socialnetwork
7- CommercialEmailKnown
17- CommercialEmailGeneric
xx-???????
Like many polluted by spam messages, I looked for a way to clean up before receiving messages. I analyzed the headers of the messages and noticed that there are different markings depending on the service providers.
For example, with Free we have
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailKnown score=7" or
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailGeneric score=17
I found the following correspondences:
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM score=0
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:SocialNetwork score=1
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailKnown score=7
X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailGeneric score=17
So by creating a filter on 7 and 17 and sending everything to a pub directory, I removed practically the entirety of my final inbox of all advertising messages.
With Orange, the marking is different: it is "X-me-spamcause: (17)". We find the 17 here. So the same thing by creating a filter on this marking, all messages are sent to the pub folder.
My question, because there is a question, is whether anyone has the correspondence of all the marking values.
1- socialnetwork
7- CommercialEmailKnown
17- CommercialEmailGeneric
xx-???????
Hello,
you should have created your own topic.
https://www.universfreebox.com/article/26515/Free-apporte-quelques-details-sur-le-nouveau-systeme-de-tri-pour-Zimbra
SocialNetwork: notifications from a social network
CommercialEmailKnown: message sent by a known professional advertiser, assumed to adhere to good emailing practices
CommercialEmailGeneric: message of an advertising or promotional nature that is not identified (not Known)
you should have created your own topic.
https://www.universfreebox.com/article/26515/Free-apporte-quelques-details-sur-le-nouveau-systeme-de-tri-pour-Zimbra
SocialNetwork: notifications from a social network
CommercialEmailKnown: message sent by a known professional advertiser, assumed to adhere to good emailing practices
CommercialEmailGeneric: message of an advertising or promotional nature that is not identified (not Known)
Thank you, I understand that well and I had already visited the address you gave me.
I put this here to possibly help villapamina create a filter based on these markings.
These markings must be standardized since we find the same numbers 0, 1, 7, 17 at Free and Orange, just the line syntax is different.
For example, for a commercial message...
Free: X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailGeneric score=17
Orange: X-me-spamcause: (17)(0011)gggruggvucft....................................
It's the list of these numbers that I would like to have out of curiosity.
I put this here to possibly help villapamina create a filter based on these markings.
These markings must be standardized since we find the same numbers 0, 1, 7, 17 at Free and Orange, just the line syntax is different.
For example, for a commercial message...
Free: X-ProXaD-SC: state=HAM:CommercialEmailGeneric score=17
Orange: X-me-spamcause: (17)(0011)gggruggvucft....................................
It's the list of these numbers that I would like to have out of curiosity.