Does a VPN protect against operator throttling?
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Hello,
I am asking this question in the context of a serious speeding offense! There is a fifty-fifty chance that I overtook an unmarked car with a mobile speed camera.
I’ve been told that the gendarmes or the police can know where the vehicle was, and therefore the driver.
They can thus calculate the average speed over a certain distance X.
The infraction was committed last night.
Thank you for shedding some light on this.
Have a great day, I look forward to your responses.
Best regards
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I am asking this question in the context of a serious speeding offense! There is a fifty-fifty chance that I overtook an unmarked car with a mobile speed camera.
I’ve been told that the gendarmes or the police can know where the vehicle was, and therefore the driver.
They can thus calculate the average speed over a certain distance X.
The infraction was committed last night.
Thank you for shedding some light on this.
Have a great day, I look forward to your responses.
Best regards
Configuration: iPhone / Safari 12.1.1
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Hello
Does the VPN protect against operator throttling?
No
bav
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"We swallow the flattering lie in gulps and drink the bitter truth drop by drop."
Does the VPN protect against operator throttling?
No
bav
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"We swallow the flattering lie in gulps and drink the bitter truth drop by drop."
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Hello,
Can you explain to me why?
Because the VPN only acts as a transit for the data contained in IP packets via third-party servers, rerouting the traffic. That said, geolocation is related to the fact that the phone connects to a specific cell tower to access the internet, with varying levels of precision depending on the location (from a few meters to several tens or even hundreds of meters).
Moreover, even if you delete the Maps history, which is pointless by the way since it's not linked, you won't prevent the phone's geolocation.
Is there a trick or a way not to be geolocated by operators?
There is one, but just one: not having a phone and/or not having the SIM card inserted in the phone. That prevents geolocation by avoiding turning it on as well.
But anyway, with cars becoming increasingly smart and onboard computers becoming more powerful and complete, even the car's memory can accurately tell where you were at a given time X. :-)
Can you explain to me why?
Because the VPN only acts as a transit for the data contained in IP packets via third-party servers, rerouting the traffic. That said, geolocation is related to the fact that the phone connects to a specific cell tower to access the internet, with varying levels of precision depending on the location (from a few meters to several tens or even hundreds of meters).
Moreover, even if you delete the Maps history, which is pointless by the way since it's not linked, you won't prevent the phone's geolocation.
Is there a trick or a way not to be geolocated by operators?
There is one, but just one: not having a phone and/or not having the SIM card inserted in the phone. That prevents geolocation by avoiding turning it on as well.
But anyway, with cars becoming increasingly smart and onboard computers becoming more powerful and complete, even the car's memory can accurately tell where you were at a given time X. :-)
Hello,
Thank you for your responses, which were very clear.
Please note that I was on a motorcycle and not in a car!
Have a great weekend,
Best regards
Thank you for your responses, which were very clear.
Please note that I was on a motorcycle and not in a car!
Have a great weekend,
Best regards
Hi,
still,
it must be said that there is no connection between the vehicle and the mobile phone.
If you transport a friend or a buddy on your motorcycle and it's their phone instead of yours that is registered, will the other one receive the ticket?
No, only the photo of the license plate is proof.
In a thorough investigation of crimes such as homicide or terrorism, yes, it is possible that the judge may request the use of mobile operator tracking.
But not for speeding, even if it falls under the category of offenses (over 50 km/h).
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and ... There you go!
still,
it must be said that there is no connection between the vehicle and the mobile phone.
If you transport a friend or a buddy on your motorcycle and it's their phone instead of yours that is registered, will the other one receive the ticket?
No, only the photo of the license plate is proof.
In a thorough investigation of crimes such as homicide or terrorism, yes, it is possible that the judge may request the use of mobile operator tracking.
But not for speeding, even if it falls under the category of offenses (over 50 km/h).
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and ... There you go!
Thank you Brupala for your clarifications.
After some follow-up information from a former friend in the gendarmerie, the mobile radar was not present on that road that day.
So I freaked out for nothing that day, but it was indeed the same car and the same color.
That will calm me down for a while on the throttle! ✌️
Kenavo
After some follow-up information from a former friend in the gendarmerie, the mobile radar was not present on that road that day.
So I freaked out for nothing that day, but it was indeed the same car and the same color.
That will calm me down for a while on the throttle! ✌️
Kenavo
Hello,
Virtual private networks (VPNs) are one of the most cited tools in the context of modern privacy on the Web. While there are numerous uses for VPNs, there is a growing number of providers that advertise privacy-preserving VPNs.
When you use a virtual private network, you are essentially using a proxy to make requests on your behalf. With a privacy-focused VPN like PureVPN, your connection to the proxy is encrypted, preventing anyone monitoring your traffic from determining the type of messages you are exchanging with the VPN server. Generally, the role of the VPN server is to make web requests on your behalf, instead of sending them to you directly.
Let’s say I want to visit MyDirtySecret, but I don’t want my ISP to know that I’m visiting this website; it’s a dirty secret after all. Normally, I have to make a request through my provider that says “I’m visiting MyDirtySecret” or at least the IP address of that website. My internet service provider can easily log that information and, for example, sell it later to advertisers.
A VPN allows you to send an encrypted message to the VPN provider that says: “Can you fetch the data from the website for MyDirtySecret and send it to me, please?” Your ISP knows you’ve sent a message to your VPN, but because of the encryption, they cannot read the content of your message. The VPN's ISP could see that the VPN requested MyDirtySecret, but could not necessarily correlate the VPN's request for that website with your request to the VPN.
One of the most important concepts in software security is threat modeling. Threat modeling involves asking questions such as: “Who do I need to protect myself from? What exactly am I protecting? How might my adversaries circumvent my protections?” Threat modeling is crucial because the truth is that nothing will ever protect you from everything. Mitigating the most likely threats from the most likely actors is often the best solution. Like many other things, cybersecurity is a world of trade-offs and priorities; there is no silver bullet.
Virtual private networks (VPNs) are one of the most cited tools in the context of modern privacy on the Web. While there are numerous uses for VPNs, there is a growing number of providers that advertise privacy-preserving VPNs.
When you use a virtual private network, you are essentially using a proxy to make requests on your behalf. With a privacy-focused VPN like PureVPN, your connection to the proxy is encrypted, preventing anyone monitoring your traffic from determining the type of messages you are exchanging with the VPN server. Generally, the role of the VPN server is to make web requests on your behalf, instead of sending them to you directly.
Let’s say I want to visit MyDirtySecret, but I don’t want my ISP to know that I’m visiting this website; it’s a dirty secret after all. Normally, I have to make a request through my provider that says “I’m visiting MyDirtySecret” or at least the IP address of that website. My internet service provider can easily log that information and, for example, sell it later to advertisers.
A VPN allows you to send an encrypted message to the VPN provider that says: “Can you fetch the data from the website for MyDirtySecret and send it to me, please?” Your ISP knows you’ve sent a message to your VPN, but because of the encryption, they cannot read the content of your message. The VPN's ISP could see that the VPN requested MyDirtySecret, but could not necessarily correlate the VPN's request for that website with your request to the VPN.
One of the most important concepts in software security is threat modeling. Threat modeling involves asking questions such as: “Who do I need to protect myself from? What exactly am I protecting? How might my adversaries circumvent my protections?” Threat modeling is crucial because the truth is that nothing will ever protect you from everything. Mitigating the most likely threats from the most likely actors is often the best solution. Like many other things, cybersecurity is a world of trade-offs and priorities; there is no silver bullet.
Maxime,
you are mixing up proxies (which operate at the application level) and remote NAT, commonly referred to as VPNs, which are only half of it and operate solely at layers 3/4, mainly just changing the IP address.
As for real VPNs, there are several types, some of which are not even encrypted (MPLS VPN), their common role is to connect private networks through one or more public networks.
Regarding privacy and hiding your internet traffic from your ISP, why not, but by doing so, you are essentially handing it over to a remote NAT provider whom, personally, I would trust even less than the ISP.
The VPN provider is often an opaque company based abroad, so you cannot do much about it: Jumping into the water to avoid the rain.
you are mixing up proxies (which operate at the application level) and remote NAT, commonly referred to as VPNs, which are only half of it and operate solely at layers 3/4, mainly just changing the IP address.
As for real VPNs, there are several types, some of which are not even encrypted (MPLS VPN), their common role is to connect private networks through one or more public networks.
Regarding privacy and hiding your internet traffic from your ISP, why not, but by doing so, you are essentially handing it over to a remote NAT provider whom, personally, I would trust even less than the ISP.
The VPN provider is often an opaque company based abroad, so you cannot do much about it: Jumping into the water to avoid the rain.
Hello,
I have been told that the police can know where the vehicle is located, and therefore the driver.
As mentioned earlier, they do not conduct a mobile search for this type of infraction.
Moreover, this will prove that you were in the vehicle but not the driver.
However, it must be proven that you were.
(I'm not sure this is precise enough to prove you were inside; you could have been in the vehicle next to it).
In any case, for this type of infraction, on-the-fly, the vehicle owner is what matters.
They identify the license plate and send the infraction to that person.
It is up to them whether or not to report the driver.
=> https://droit-finances.commentcamarche.com/faq/1386-radar-conducteur-non-titulaire-de-la-carte-grise
I have been told that the police can know where the vehicle is located, and therefore the driver.
As mentioned earlier, they do not conduct a mobile search for this type of infraction.
Moreover, this will prove that you were in the vehicle but not the driver.
However, it must be proven that you were.
(I'm not sure this is precise enough to prove you were inside; you could have been in the vehicle next to it).
In any case, for this type of infraction, on-the-fly, the vehicle owner is what matters.
They identify the license plate and send the infraction to that person.
It is up to them whether or not to report the driver.
=> https://droit-finances.commentcamarche.com/faq/1386-radar-conducteur-non-titulaire-de-la-carte-grise