Home Network Setup with Switch
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Hello,
I just had a 4p grade 3 MTVS cabling installed in a renovated house, serving 16 RJ45 outlets and connected to a rack with a patch panel and a TP Link switch (TL-SG3424).
Once my Bbox is connected to this switch, my PC running Windows 8 displays "the Ethernet connection does not have a valid IP address."
Could someone have the patience to explain to me step-by-step the procedure to follow to configure this network (IP address assignment, gateway, subnet mask, etc.), knowing that I am not an expert?
What exactly should I configure? A computer that manages everything? Each outlet? Each PC or Mac that will be connected to these outlets? My switch?
Thank you for your help.
I just had a 4p grade 3 MTVS cabling installed in a renovated house, serving 16 RJ45 outlets and connected to a rack with a patch panel and a TP Link switch (TL-SG3424).
Once my Bbox is connected to this switch, my PC running Windows 8 displays "the Ethernet connection does not have a valid IP address."
Could someone have the patience to explain to me step-by-step the procedure to follow to configure this network (IP address assignment, gateway, subnet mask, etc.), knowing that I am not an expert?
What exactly should I configure? A computer that manages everything? Each outlet? Each PC or Mac that will be connected to these outlets? My switch?
Thank you for your help.
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Hi,
there are 3 steps to connect to your switch.
1- Configure your PC with a fixed IP, for example 192.168.0.2
(message from Kelux), subnet mask 255.255.255.0
To do this, "open Network and Sharing Center," then "Local Area Connection," then "Properties," then "Internet Protocol Version 4" - "Properties" and there, enter the above data. (IP: 192.168.0.2; mask: 255.255.255.0; gateway: 192.168.0.1)
Note: Changing the IP address may cause loss of internet connection, but this will be restored right after step 3.
2- Once step 1 is done, open the browser and type: 192.168.0.1
enter "admin" for both login and password.
Then change the switch's IP address to 192.168.1.x (replacing the 0 with a 1 makes the switch part of the same network as your router).
3- Then, you need to redo step 1, but replacing the 0s in the IP and gateway with 1s, without touching the subnet mask.
there are 3 steps to connect to your switch.
1- Configure your PC with a fixed IP, for example 192.168.0.2
(message from Kelux), subnet mask 255.255.255.0
To do this, "open Network and Sharing Center," then "Local Area Connection," then "Properties," then "Internet Protocol Version 4" - "Properties" and there, enter the above data. (IP: 192.168.0.2; mask: 255.255.255.0; gateway: 192.168.0.1)
Note: Changing the IP address may cause loss of internet connection, but this will be restored right after step 3.
2- Once step 1 is done, open the browser and type: 192.168.0.1
enter "admin" for both login and password.
Then change the switch's IP address to 192.168.1.x (replacing the 0 with a 1 makes the switch part of the same network as your router).
3- Then, you need to redo step 1, but replacing the 0s in the IP and gateway with 1s, without touching the subnet mask.
Hi, I'm not an expert, but have you ever tried accessing the TP-Link modem's settings? You type 192.168.1.1 in the URL, the username is admin, and the password is admin. Try that and let me know if you get into the settings.
Hello akinator64. Thanks for your response.
Unfortunately, I can't connect to the switch with this URL ("Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at address 192.168.1.1").
I tried to find the switch's IP address using a command line (ipconfig/all). I found a bunch of information for Ethernet cards, Wi-Fi network cards, and also "tunnel cards" (what is that?). It's hard to identify them.
Does this description match my switch? : "Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller".
The corresponding IP address is "169.254.244.56". But when I type this URL into my browser, it finds nothing.
I also note that the corresponding subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 while elsewhere I find 255.255.255.0
Additionally, there is this IPv4 address but also an IPv6 address.
Thank you.
Unfortunately, I can't connect to the switch with this URL ("Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at address 192.168.1.1").
I tried to find the switch's IP address using a command line (ipconfig/all). I found a bunch of information for Ethernet cards, Wi-Fi network cards, and also "tunnel cards" (what is that?). It's hard to identify them.
Does this description match my switch? : "Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller".
The corresponding IP address is "169.254.244.56". But when I type this URL into my browser, it finds nothing.
I also note that the corresponding subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 while elsewhere I find 255.255.255.0
Additionally, there is this IPv4 address but also an IPv6 address.
Thank you.
Hello
the subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 which is 2^16-2 the other is 255.255.255.0 which is 2^8-2 hosts that's the difference we usually use a mask of 255.255.255.0 for simple home networks in short this mask allows a maximum of 254 IP addresses I would simply type ipconfig you look for default gateway and just try typing it into your browser unless you are sure it's 169.254.244.56 and no this description does not match your switch
the subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 which is 2^16-2 the other is 255.255.255.0 which is 2^8-2 hosts that's the difference we usually use a mask of 255.255.255.0 for simple home networks in short this mask allows a maximum of 254 IP addresses I would simply type ipconfig you look for default gateway and just try typing it into your browser unless you are sure it's 169.254.244.56 and no this description does not match your switch
Hello
Is the PC connected to the switch as well?
Otherwise, try connecting the PC directly to the box to see...
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Is the PC connected to the switch as well?
Otherwise, try connecting the PC directly to the box to see...
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"To fix something that doesn't work or makes too much noise, you just need to hit it with something that works better or makes more noise." The Shadoks
Hello phil2k,
yes, my PC is connected to the switch via a built-in cable. The same goes for my Bbox.
Until now, my PC was directly connected by Ethernet cable to my box and everything was fine. The other computers in the house were connected to the network via the wifi generated by the box.
Today I would like to connect all of them to the Internet through this Ethernet network I had installed. It's a star configuration: my box powers the switch which redistributes to 16 RJ45 sockets that I would like to connect my PC, Mac, TV, and phone to.
Thanks for your help.
yes, my PC is connected to the switch via a built-in cable. The same goes for my Bbox.
Until now, my PC was directly connected by Ethernet cable to my box and everything was fine. The other computers in the house were connected to the network via the wifi generated by the box.
Today I would like to connect all of them to the Internet through this Ethernet network I had installed. It's a star configuration: my box powers the switch which redistributes to 16 RJ45 sockets that I would like to connect my PC, Mac, TV, and phone to.
Thanks for your help.
Hi,
if you connect directly to the switch, what happens?
We need to diagnose whether it's the switch-box link that's faulty or the switch-PC link.
Otherwise,
you don't have anything more to configure, your switch should work in factory settings, maybe just disable the DHCP server on it if there is one.
In principle, based on this, page 11
the management is not on DHCP on the switch that has the address 192.168.0.1, you need to configure a static address like 192.168.0.2 on the PC if you want to manage the switch in factory configuration.
and ... There you go!
if you connect directly to the switch, what happens?
We need to diagnose whether it's the switch-box link that's faulty or the switch-PC link.
Otherwise,
you don't have anything more to configure, your switch should work in factory settings, maybe just disable the DHCP server on it if there is one.
In principle, based on this, page 11
the management is not on DHCP on the switch that has the address 192.168.0.1, you need to configure a static address like 192.168.0.2 on the PC if you want to manage the switch in factory configuration.
and ... There you go!
Good evening brubalpa,
thank you.
To respond to your first piece of advice:
In the quick installation guide of the product, it is stated that to configure the switch, I need to connect my PC directly to the console port of the switch via a supplied cable. This cable, which has an RJ45 connector to connect to the switch, has a 9-pin connector to connect to my PC. However, my PC does not have any 9-pin outputs.
Second difficulty: my PC is installed on the upper floor while my patch panel is in the basement...
I tried to connect my PC to my wall socket and link this Ethernet cable to the console port via the patch panel, but I can't find the connection.
As for the rest:
Can you help me configure a new IP address for my PC? I am on Windows 8.
We may also need to configure another IP address for my router (which is currently only connected to my PC via Wi-Fi).
Thanks for everything.
thank you.
To respond to your first piece of advice:
In the quick installation guide of the product, it is stated that to configure the switch, I need to connect my PC directly to the console port of the switch via a supplied cable. This cable, which has an RJ45 connector to connect to the switch, has a 9-pin connector to connect to my PC. However, my PC does not have any 9-pin outputs.
Second difficulty: my PC is installed on the upper floor while my patch panel is in the basement...
I tried to connect my PC to my wall socket and link this Ethernet cable to the console port via the patch panel, but I can't find the connection.
As for the rest:
Can you help me configure a new IP address for my PC? I am on Windows 8.
We may also need to configure another IP address for my router (which is currently only connected to my PC via Wi-Fi).
Thanks for everything.
Hello,
In the product documentation, chapter 3, have you read this passage?
It is a manageable switch at first glance.
It is configured with a default IP of 192.168.0.1
If the box already has this IP, it can indeed cause problems. (or a default VLAN concept related to the switch network 192.168.0.0/24)
I would recommend:
- reading the product documentation.
- unplugging the box from the switch
- configuring the PC with IP 192.168.0.2, mask 255.255.255.0, no gateway.
- connecting this PC to the switch,
- trying to connect to http://192.168.0.1
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The goal would be to configure the switch on the same network as the Box.
And, if necessary, assign it a different IP address from an already existing device (Box or different from the DHCP distribution range)
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In the product documentation, chapter 3, have you read this passage?
It is a manageable switch at first glance.
It is configured with a default IP of 192.168.0.1
If the box already has this IP, it can indeed cause problems. (or a default VLAN concept related to the switch network 192.168.0.0/24)
I would recommend:
- reading the product documentation.
- unplugging the box from the switch
- configuring the PC with IP 192.168.0.2, mask 255.255.255.0, no gateway.
- connecting this PC to the switch,
- trying to connect to http://192.168.0.1
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The goal would be to configure the switch on the same network as the Box.
And, if necessary, assign it a different IP address from an already existing device (Box or different from the DHCP distribution range)
--
Using a registry "compactor" on top of a registry "cleaner" would be equivalent to rinsing your throat with a swig of Jack Daniels after swallowing a pint of snake oil....
Thank you Kelux.
I suppose you've all had dinner a long time ago, so I'll continue...
As I was saying to brubalpa, I'm wondering how to connect my PC to the switch.
The cable that was provided with the switch has an RJ45 connector to connect to the switch and a 9-pin connector to connect to my PC. However, my PC has no 9-pin output. It seems to me that I should be able to connect with a simple cable with two RJ45 connectors, right?
I’ve read the product documentation even if everything is in English.
I'll follow your advice, but I need to change my PC's IP address and subnet mask.
Can you please "remind" me how to do that?
Thank you very much.
I suppose you've all had dinner a long time ago, so I'll continue...
As I was saying to brubalpa, I'm wondering how to connect my PC to the switch.
The cable that was provided with the switch has an RJ45 connector to connect to the switch and a 9-pin connector to connect to my PC. However, my PC has no 9-pin output. It seems to me that I should be able to connect with a simple cable with two RJ45 connectors, right?
I’ve read the product documentation even if everything is in English.
I'll follow your advice, but I need to change my PC's IP address and subnet mask.
Can you please "remind" me how to do that?
Thank you very much.
Is the physical port on your switch (where your PC cable is) "enabled"?
Is the physical port on your switch (where your box cable is) "enabled"?
The duplex settings also need to be compatible with each other.
You set all ports to 1000 MB and set your devices to auto.
There you go,
in my opinion
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If there is no solution to the problem, it means it is poorly formulated.
Is the physical port on your switch (where your box cable is) "enabled"?
The duplex settings also need to be compatible with each other.
You set all ports to 1000 MB and set your devices to auto.
There you go,
in my opinion
--
With Linux you have a kernel, with Windows, problems.
If there is no solution to the problem, it means it is poorly formulated.
Good evening Arjac,
I don't know how to send a screenshot on the forum. Sorry.
Regarding your issue, generally, to access your box from a browser, you need to type 192.168.1.1. If you have given the same IP address to your switch, there will be a conflict.
To avoid this conflict, I recommend assigning the address 192.168.1.2 to your switch. It's better to avoid changing the IP address of your box.
To change the IP address of your switch, go to the "system info" page, under the "system IP" tab.
You can enter - check "static IP" - IP address: 192.168.1.2 - mask 255.255.255.0 - gateway: empty.
For devices on the same network to communicate, they need to have the same common root in their IP address: here, it will be 192.168.1.x
Personally, I am using Livebox.
I have assigned a fixed IP to my PC.
On the IPv4 ("Internet Protocol version 4" - "properties"), I set IP: 192.168.1.25
My mask: 255.255.255.0
My default gateway: 192.168.1.1
Preferred DNS server: 192.168.1.1
For IPv6, you need to check your switch’s documentation; there should be some information. Personally, I set IPV6: 3001::14 prefix length: 64
To access your box settings, what IP address do you call in your browser?
I don't know how to send a screenshot on the forum. Sorry.
Regarding your issue, generally, to access your box from a browser, you need to type 192.168.1.1. If you have given the same IP address to your switch, there will be a conflict.
To avoid this conflict, I recommend assigning the address 192.168.1.2 to your switch. It's better to avoid changing the IP address of your box.
To change the IP address of your switch, go to the "system info" page, under the "system IP" tab.
You can enter - check "static IP" - IP address: 192.168.1.2 - mask 255.255.255.0 - gateway: empty.
For devices on the same network to communicate, they need to have the same common root in their IP address: here, it will be 192.168.1.x
Personally, I am using Livebox.
I have assigned a fixed IP to my PC.
On the IPv4 ("Internet Protocol version 4" - "properties"), I set IP: 192.168.1.25
My mask: 255.255.255.0
My default gateway: 192.168.1.1
Preferred DNS server: 192.168.1.1
For IPv6, you need to check your switch’s documentation; there should be some information. Personally, I set IPV6: 3001::14 prefix length: 64
To access your box settings, what IP address do you call in your browser?
Good evening Manu.
To access the settings of my box, I need to call the IP address 192.168.1.254.
So there shouldn't be any conflict with the addresses you recommended to me yesterday (1.1 for the switch, 1.2 for my PC).
I can connect with my switch without any issues, so there shouldn't be a conflict between the PC and the switch.
And my box, with its IP 192.168.1.254, shouldn't conflict with the rest either.
A little "detail": today my box is connected to the switch via the console port. Shouldn't I connect it to a numbered port instead?
What distinguishes the functions of the console port?
To access the settings of my box, I need to call the IP address 192.168.1.254.
So there shouldn't be any conflict with the addresses you recommended to me yesterday (1.1 for the switch, 1.2 for my PC).
I can connect with my switch without any issues, so there shouldn't be a conflict between the PC and the switch.
And my box, with its IP 192.168.1.254, shouldn't conflict with the rest either.
A little "detail": today my box is connected to the switch via the console port. Shouldn't I connect it to a numbered port instead?
What distinguishes the functions of the console port?
In the end, when I ran my network diagnostic tool on my PC, Windows told me that the error was due to the DHCP being disabled. I allowed it to fix it and then: miracle: internet connection established...
So now I have new questions (thank you for your patience):
- the DHCP has been activated on the Bbox but not on the switch. Shouldn't it be the switch that does this work?
- if now I connect other devices to the other RJ45 ports in my house, will I no longer need to configure them one by one?
So now I have new questions (thank you for your patience):
- the DHCP has been activated on the Bbox but not on the switch. Shouldn't it be the switch that does this work?
- if now I connect other devices to the other RJ45 ports in my house, will I no longer need to configure them one by one?
The console port is not an Ethernet port, despite the misleading and all-purpose RJ45 format.
It is intended to connect to a serial port of a PC in order to take control for generating the initial configuration or troubleshooting in case of serious issues.
It can also be connected to a router or modem's serial port for out-of-band remote access, but that enters into complexities beyond your current grasp.
Normally you should have a console cable for the serial port with a female DB9 and a male RJ45 supplied with your switch, which you seemed to have understood here, are you possibly experiencing a regression?
It is intended to connect to a serial port of a PC in order to take control for generating the initial configuration or troubleshooting in case of serious issues.
It can also be connected to a router or modem's serial port for out-of-band remote access, but that enters into complexities beyond your current grasp.
Normally you should have a console cable for the serial port with a female DB9 and a male RJ45 supplied with your switch, which you seemed to have understood here, are you possibly experiencing a regression?
Thank you Brupala.
Yes, I kind of forgot your very useful lessons from last month, but one often has to forget before remembering. I'm a bit slow, sorry...
I have my connection now that I plugged my box into a numbered outlet.
I still need to understand how DHCP works and especially the division of tasks between the switch and the box for connection distribution.
I'm trying to learn, but I would understand if you get tired of my ignorance...
Thanks anyway.
Yes, I kind of forgot your very useful lessons from last month, but one often has to forget before remembering. I'm a bit slow, sorry...
I have my connection now that I plugged my box into a numbered outlet.
I still need to understand how DHCP works and especially the division of tasks between the switch and the box for connection distribution.
I'm trying to learn, but I would understand if you get tired of my ignorance...
Thanks anyway.
As far as I'm concerned, DHCP is disabled, both on my switch and on my box. Each device that connects to the switch has a static IP; afterwards, everyone manages their network as they see fit.
In my opinion, the advantage of assigning a static IP to each device helps avoid address conflicts, especially when DHCP doesn't do its job well. (the one from the Livebox is a bit "borderline" ^^).
After that, it's up to each person to decide based on their equipment.
See you!
In my opinion, the advantage of assigning a static IP to each device helps avoid address conflicts, especially when DHCP doesn't do its job well. (the one from the Livebox is a bit "borderline" ^^).
After that, it's up to each person to decide based on their equipment.
See you!
Ah no, you shouldn't connect your box to the console port.
You must absolutely connect your box to a numbered socket. Any one will do.
The console port is dedicated to configuring your switch, via command line input through hyperterminal or something similar.
Try connecting your box to port number 1, for example. It should work.
Your IPv4 gateway will be the IP address of your box: 192.168.1.254. Keep that in mind.
See you!
You must absolutely connect your box to a numbered socket. Any one will do.
The console port is dedicated to configuring your switch, via command line input through hyperterminal or something similar.
Try connecting your box to port number 1, for example. It should work.
Your IPv4 gateway will be the IP address of your box: 192.168.1.254. Keep that in mind.
See you!
First of all, I would like to apologize to Brubalpa, Illoxx, and the others who tried to help me last month. I had to disappear for a month for my job, but my problem hadn't progressed since then. I was losing hope...
I tried to connect directly to the console port (a novice for sure, but still capable of recognizing a console port...) but I couldn't establish a connection with the switch.
Thanks to your explanations Manu, I have just taken a big step forward! I finally have a connection with my switch from my PC!
My network is currently like this: Bbox-Switch-PC, through my infrastructure network.
I can therefore "manage my switch." I have performed your IP settings and it works. At least locally, since I don't have an internet connection (only via Wi-Fi).
You said: "replacing the 0 with a 1 ensures that the switch will be on the same network as your box" but if I understand correctly, it should now be the IP addresses of my Box and the switch that aren’t communicating, right?
The IP address of my Bbox is 192.168.1.254.
Thank you anyway for your valuable help.
do you know how I can send you screenshots on this forum?
I would like to show you all the connections that are listed in the "Network and Sharing Center" window. There is no "local network".
I assigned a static IP address (192.168.1.2) to the connection named "Ethernet", thinking I was changing my PC's.
However, when I type ipconfig in a command prompt, I see that my IP address is 198.162.1.46. It should work too, but the default gateway is 192.168.1.254, which corresponds to the IP address of my box and not the one of my switch as you asked me to configure (192.168.1.1).
So, I don't know how to access and configure my network settings on my PC. How can I find this local network that is not showing up?