PVR Functionality in TV
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Hello,
I just saw on a flyer from Super U a Tokai brand television (48 cm with a 2-year warranty) featuring PVR functionality, which apparently allows recording TNT programs (integrated) onto a USB stick via a USB port.
If I understood everything correctly:
the USB stick would replace a DVD recorder + DVDs (or a VHS recorder + tapes) all by itself?
Thank you in advance for your responses to enlighten me a bit!
I just saw on a flyer from Super U a Tokai brand television (48 cm with a 2-year warranty) featuring PVR functionality, which apparently allows recording TNT programs (integrated) onto a USB stick via a USB port.
If I understood everything correctly:
the USB stick would replace a DVD recorder + DVDs (or a VHS recorder + tapes) all by itself?
Thank you in advance for your responses to enlighten me a bit!
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I have a TV with a PVR function, when the recording starts the TV turns on....
Is that normal?
It's a bit annoying :(
Is that normal?
It's a bit annoying :(
I have a SAMSUNG 6750 television purchased from DARTY. It has the PVR function.
I tried it after carefully reading the E MANUAL. I connected an EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE
of 300 GB and 7200 RPM to the USB HDD (it's labeled on the USB port), powered the hard drive from the mains, and turned it on. I went to the RECORDING function from the menu, and everything was easy. The hard drive was formatted correctly by the TV, it was recognized, and I could record the shows I couldn't watch. Finally, it works very well. To record a scheduled show, you need to go to the program guide and scroll down to the red letter A. You have access to the entire recording log itself (Channel, day, time, etc.). It's great. There is a live recording function when you cannot watch the show immediately.
I tried it after carefully reading the E MANUAL. I connected an EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE
of 300 GB and 7200 RPM to the USB HDD (it's labeled on the USB port), powered the hard drive from the mains, and turned it on. I went to the RECORDING function from the menu, and everything was easy. The hard drive was formatted correctly by the TV, it was recognized, and I could record the shows I couldn't watch. Finally, it works very well. To record a scheduled show, you need to go to the program guide and scroll down to the red letter A. You have access to the entire recording log itself (Channel, day, time, etc.). It's great. There is a live recording function when you cannot watch the show immediately.
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I bought a "cutting-edge" PHILIPS 42PFL7606H television with built-in PVR. Connection and configuration with the SFR box went relatively smoothly, but I can't seem to record.
I purchased a TOSHIBA 1.5 Tb USB2 external hard drive. Where should the USB plug be connected? To the decoder or to the television? Neither seems to work.
With the connection to the decoder and using the decoder's remote control, the recording commands are acknowledged, displayed, and executed, but the hard drive remains empty: "My recordings: No recordings."
As for paper manuals or help menus: nonexistent.
Can someone help me?
Help
I bought a "cutting-edge" PHILIPS 42PFL7606H television with built-in PVR. Connection and configuration with the SFR box went relatively smoothly, but I can't seem to record.
I purchased a TOSHIBA 1.5 Tb USB2 external hard drive. Where should the USB plug be connected? To the decoder or to the television? Neither seems to work.
With the connection to the decoder and using the decoder's remote control, the recording commands are acknowledged, displayed, and executed, but the hard drive remains empty: "My recordings: No recordings."
As for paper manuals or help menus: nonexistent.
Can someone help me?
I found it all by myself! But for those who are with SFR - Neuf - Club-internet, I’m providing the solution: You won’t find anything in the help menus (except for hieroglyphs). Everything is explained on the SFR website
http://assistance.sfr.fr/tv/neufbox-tv/brancher-disque-dur/fc-1661-12003
or by simply searching on Google "sfr hooking up hard drive to decoder".
It would be better if this information were included in the help menu.
http://assistance.sfr.fr/tv/neufbox-tv/brancher-disque-dur/fc-1661-12003
or by simply searching on Google "sfr hooking up hard drive to decoder".
It would be better if this information were included in the help menu.
Thus, I bought a TNT decoder (adapter) that has the same PVR function, and it came with this 4GB USB key.
I conclude that this key was type 2, and that is why when I tried to use it on my computer as a normal key, it asked me to reformat it and since then, it has a capacity of 0 GB because it was not reformatted in the right format.
Do I need to reformat it again in the first format: mpg2?
And can I conclude that another key used in office work cannot also be used for recording?
Thank you for your responses, Best regards.
I conclude that this key was type 2, and that is why when I tried to use it on my computer as a normal key, it asked me to reformat it and since then, it has a capacity of 0 GB because it was not reformatted in the right format.
Do I need to reformat it again in the first format: mpg2?
And can I conclude that another key used in office work cannot also be used for recording?
Thank you for your responses, Best regards.
Don't you confuse the Time Shift and PVR functions? Time Shift requires a pre-sized binary file based on the maximum rewind duration (1 GB for 1 hour, for example). This file is always created by the television in a folder reserved for this purpose and is rarely readable by a video player.
The PVR is reserved for recording digital broadcasts received from the TNT decoder, and in this case, the file size depends on the duration of the recording. Its format, often .bin, is not necessarily compatible with .avi, .mpeg 2 or 4, h.264, .flv, etc. It uses a folder created at the time of configuration or first use, on a FAT32 partition (Some TVs accept NTFS partitions).
I have never seen a TNT TV record an analog broadcast or external input!
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The PVR is reserved for recording digital broadcasts received from the TNT decoder, and in this case, the file size depends on the duration of the recording. Its format, often .bin, is not necessarily compatible with .avi, .mpeg 2 or 4, h.264, .flv, etc. It uses a folder created at the time of configuration or first use, on a FAT32 partition (Some TVs accept NTFS partitions).
I have never seen a TNT TV record an analog broadcast or external input!
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I have a SAMSUNG UE 32 D 6750 TV with PVR function. I had to try several times to format a new 32 GB USB stick. Several times I received the message on the TV "Device performance test failed." Finally, I was able to record TV shows coming from TNT (for me, it's the antenna service from NUMERICABLE). But I can't record a show coming from my Orange decoder. So the recording is automatically on the "Terrestrial" network from NUMERICABLE (for me) and at the same time I can watch another channel from the Orange decoder. Note that recordings on the USB stick can only be played by the TV that recorded them. It is impossible to play them on another TV or a computer.
+1, the PVR will only allow you to record from the "Antenna" source and not HDMI for example! It's not an internal capture card either, you know. It's simply meant to replace the old VCR; however, some manufacturers have fun encrypting the files so that they can only be read on the TV, while others will split them into .ts files of 3.99 GB because it requires a FAT32 storage medium. And indeed, some TVs now also support NTFS (Awesome).
I bought a PVR TV that I deeply regret.
It's the ACER AT2758ML - 68 cm. From a recording standpoint, it's a complete scam!
You can't program any recordings! It's all live, you have to be there! This function is therefore completely useless. Moreover, during recording, there are interruptions from time to time...
When you change channels, there's a long wait. Extremely stressful.
The ergonomics aren't great either. And especially the sound is very mediocre!!!
So I deeply regret this purchase!
It's the ACER AT2758ML - 68 cm. From a recording standpoint, it's a complete scam!
You can't program any recordings! It's all live, you have to be there! This function is therefore completely useless. Moreover, during recording, there are interruptions from time to time...
When you change channels, there's a long wait. Extremely stressful.
The ergonomics aren't great either. And especially the sound is very mediocre!!!
So I deeply regret this purchase!
I am about to buy a TV with PVR (recording shows on an external hard drive via USB output). However, opinions vary greatly from one retailer to another:
- According to one, you can only record analog shows (6 old channels): strange!
- According to another: The PVR allows you to pause a show and go back (but I already have this function on my TNT decoder).
You can also record all TV shows (movies, matches) as long as you go through reception via computer (Wifi). This, in my opinion, means that each recording is paid. I am not interested in that, as I only want to record a few matches or F1 or certain movies when I can't watch them live, and I can already do that with my decoder.
Has anyone used this system?
- According to one, you can only record analog shows (6 old channels): strange!
- According to another: The PVR allows you to pause a show and go back (but I already have this function on my TNT decoder).
You can also record all TV shows (movies, matches) as long as you go through reception via computer (Wifi). This, in my opinion, means that each recording is paid. I am not interested in that, as I only want to record a few matches or F1 or certain movies when I can't watch them live, and I can already do that with my decoder.
Has anyone used this system?
I save my digital photo files on an external hard drive that I view on my PC. I would like to see them on the HD PVR TV.
It works very well with my USB stick, which only contains PC files (the files from the stick are clearly displayed on the TV screen. I select the photo files and view them on the TV)
But can I do the same with my hard drive, without the TV (or the decoder) formatting it into its protocol for television movies?
Indeed, it seems to me that when I first connected another blank hard drive dedicated to recording TV movies, it formatted it automatically without asking my opinion, which was normal in that case since I intended that HDD for that purpose.
But for the photo drive, I don’t want to try without being sure that my photos won’t be destroyed.
Has anyone tried it?
It works very well with my USB stick, which only contains PC files (the files from the stick are clearly displayed on the TV screen. I select the photo files and view them on the TV)
But can I do the same with my hard drive, without the TV (or the decoder) formatting it into its protocol for television movies?
Indeed, it seems to me that when I first connected another blank hard drive dedicated to recording TV movies, it formatted it automatically without asking my opinion, which was normal in that case since I intended that HDD for that purpose.
But for the photo drive, I don’t want to try without being sure that my photos won’t be destroyed.
Has anyone tried it?
Hi, be careful, now some programs recorded with the latest 4K TVs and HD LED TVs can refuse certain recordings to prevent piracy, which means the TV might block the visuals, but don't worry, it's not all of them. Because I have the Samsung Series 6900 4K 55-inch TV and so far I've been able to record all the shows, even with Euro 2016, I'm going to enjoy it. I wish you good luck, see you later!
Well, I'm here to share my experience with this PVR story. I have a Schaub Lorenz TV that has this function, so it's simple whether I format my USB stick as FAT32 or NTFS; the TV will format it to FAT32 with a partition dedicated to the TV (which I can decide the size of), and then it records .ts files of 3.99 GB (logical) of my shows.
Conclusion: It's useful… but I much prefer my LG HDD recorder, which preserves video quality, sound quality, and really gives me the impression of having a copy-paste of the show/movie.
Conclusion: It's useful… but I much prefer my LG HDD recorder, which preserves video quality, sound quality, and really gives me the impression of having a copy-paste of the show/movie.
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According to Dakira, we cannot record outside of the "Antenna" source; I take TV via satellite (dish), so on the HDMI source, I won't be able to record? Or only "live," as Hersen says. (By the way, that's currently what's happening with my old VCR)
Can you tell me if this viewpoint is correct?
According to Dakira, we cannot record outside of the "Antenna" source; I take TV via satellite (dish), so on the HDMI source, I won't be able to record? Or only "live," as Hersen says. (By the way, that's currently what's happening with my old VCR)
Can you tell me if this viewpoint is correct?
Well, obviously I agree with myself, but you're right to ask for other opinions, at least we'll be sure!
For now, I have 2 TVs at home that have the PVR function, and neither allows recording from sources other than the antenna.
However, on one of them, I can schedule recordings, unlike Hersen (who, by the way, wasn't speaking in general but was giving his opinion on his ACER AT2758ML).
For now, I have 2 TVs at home that have the PVR function, and neither allows recording from sources other than the antenna.
However, on one of them, I can schedule recordings, unlike Hersen (who, by the way, wasn't speaking in general but was giving his opinion on his ACER AT2758ML).
Toma421, yes, PVR TVs record just like VCRs, DVD recorders...
But definitely do not buy the ACER AT2758ML for the PVR function, you will regret it as I mentioned earlier! Dakira, that's right, I was indeed talking about the ACER AT2758ML. I don't know about the others. But as you said, yours can program, so it needs to be confirmed for the other brands.
But definitely do not buy the ACER AT2758ML for the PVR function, you will regret it as I mentioned earlier! Dakira, that's right, I was indeed talking about the ACER AT2758ML. I don't know about the others. But as you said, yours can program, so it needs to be confirmed for the other brands.
I haven't taken the PVR function of my TV into account. I connected it via HDMI to the SFR decoder, which is linked to an external hard drive via USB cable. It works well, but it's quite unstable. At the slightest error in handling, everything crashes and I have to reset everything (turn everything off and on again).
New problem: the Time Shift function (loop recording of ongoing shows) does not seem to be adjustable (I had read somewhere that you could set the loop recording time). It records all the time until the hard drive is full and blocked (1 month and a half with a 1.5 TB hard drive). With the hard drive being full, I can no longer record movies. Twice, I had to reformat the hard drive and lose all my movies. I don't see the point of the system if I have to erase everything every two months.
Does anyone know how to set the Time Shift duration on the SFR decoder?
New problem: the Time Shift function (loop recording of ongoing shows) does not seem to be adjustable (I had read somewhere that you could set the loop recording time). It records all the time until the hard drive is full and blocked (1 month and a half with a 1.5 TB hard drive). With the hard drive being full, I can no longer record movies. Twice, I had to reformat the hard drive and lose all my movies. I don't see the point of the system if I have to erase everything every two months.
Does anyone know how to set the Time Shift duration on the SFR decoder?
Hello,
I myself purchased a television (TCL L32E3110C) with USB recording function (PVR).
I managed to record TNT channels by using a USB stick 'randomly'.
Everything worked well but I can't access it on the computer... And I can't record external outputs, particularly my PlayStation 3.
Is there a way to transfer the recordings from the USB stick to the PC and to record external outputs?
This is quite frustrating because I bought a recorder TV to avoid having to buy an HD PVR to film my gaming sessions.
Thank you!
I myself purchased a television (TCL L32E3110C) with USB recording function (PVR).
I managed to record TNT channels by using a USB stick 'randomly'.
Everything worked well but I can't access it on the computer... And I can't record external outputs, particularly my PlayStation 3.
Is there a way to transfer the recordings from the USB stick to the PC and to record external outputs?
This is quite frustrating because I bought a recorder TV to avoid having to buy an HD PVR to film my gaming sessions.
Thank you!
Hello.
Just to let you know, I just bought a 55 cm HD LED TV at LECLERC, with the PVR function.
I connected a USB stick that I had, with files already on it - I started a recording to test it = It recorded right away! (Without deleting my files on it!). My stick is formatted in FAT 32.
The problem: While it works perfectly for recording (quality OK), it is IMPOSSIBLE to read it on PC!
It's a "proprietary" format with the extension REC_PART0
I can't find a converter no matter what!
For your information!
Just to let you know, I just bought a 55 cm HD LED TV at LECLERC, with the PVR function.
I connected a USB stick that I had, with files already on it - I started a recording to test it = It recorded right away! (Without deleting my files on it!). My stick is formatted in FAT 32.
The problem: While it works perfectly for recording (quality OK), it is IMPOSSIBLE to read it on PC!
It's a "proprietary" format with the extension REC_PART0
I can't find a converter no matter what!
For your information!
Hello,
I have read this topic carefully, but I haven't seen if anyone can actually play .avi, .mpeg, etc. files on a TV with PVR function and a USB stick, because I am about to buy one for the bedroom and what I'm mainly interested in is being able to watch movies using a USB stick.
Thank you for your replies.
I have read this topic carefully, but I haven't seen if anyone can actually play .avi, .mpeg, etc. files on a TV with PVR function and a USB stick, because I am about to buy one for the bedroom and what I'm mainly interested in is being able to watch movies using a USB stick.
Thank you for your replies.
Thank you bb-pp,
I suspected a bit about the MP4, I wasn't sure about the AVI and others, but it's already not bad and it's easy to convert. Just so you know, I'm going to buy a Schaub Lorenz 24" at Leclerc, for €153, so before I go, if anyone has any opinions about this brand...
Thanks
I suspected a bit about the MP4, I wasn't sure about the AVI and others, but it's already not bad and it's easy to convert. Just so you know, I'm going to buy a Schaub Lorenz 24" at Leclerc, for €153, so before I go, if anyone has any opinions about this brand...
Thanks
Schaub Lorenz 24" at Leclerc, for €153! That's great!
I bought a 22" at Leclerc for €149 (TNT HD LED)
Schaub Lorenz = it used to be a good brand back in the day - now with the acquisitions of brands by big retailers??? By GRANDIN > it used to be a good French brand > THE brand was bought by CONFORAMA (only the brand! What's inside???? ... yellow!)
Make sure it's LED (more economical).
I bought a 22" at Leclerc for €149 (TNT HD LED)
Schaub Lorenz = it used to be a good brand back in the day - now with the acquisitions of brands by big retailers??? By GRANDIN > it used to be a good French brand > THE brand was bought by CONFORAMA (only the brand! What's inside???? ... yellow!)
Make sure it's LED (more economical).
But my hard drive was initially sold to me with the TNT PVR adapter, and when I plugged it into my computer it shows 0 GB and doesn't want to be reformatted at all, no matter the format!
What should I do!!!
Thank you, Best regards.
What should I do!!!
Thank you, Best regards.
Response to TOMA 421
I inquired, and I think I understand well:
The formatting is not the same for video and computer.
For video, the USB key or hard drive must be formatted in mpeg2 or mpeg4, and it is the television that formats them. You can always reformat them for use on computers, but not at the same time, because each formatting destroys all the files already recorded.
But I don't understand why, after formatting your key with your computer, you ended up with 0 bytes.
I inquired, and I think I understand well:
The formatting is not the same for video and computer.
For video, the USB key or hard drive must be formatted in mpeg2 or mpeg4, and it is the television that formats them. You can always reformat them for use on computers, but not at the same time, because each formatting destroys all the files already recorded.
But I don't understand why, after formatting your key with your computer, you ended up with 0 bytes.
No, the marquis, I repeat, MPEG2 or 4 has nothing to do with formatting; it’s about video encoding.
Formatting is generally expressed in FAT 16 or 32 and in NTFS.
So, I quote you: "the hard drive must be formatted in MPEG2 or MPEG4" means absolutely nothing; it’s like saying an airplane flies at a speed of so many cubic meters or liters... lol.
Formatting is generally expressed in FAT 16 or 32 and in NTFS.
So, I quote you: "the hard drive must be formatted in MPEG2 or MPEG4" means absolutely nothing; it’s like saying an airplane flies at a speed of so many cubic meters or liters... lol.
I think "the marquis" is not wrong, because to prevent film piracy a new type of formatting for hard drives or keys has been created so that these films can only be viewed on TV and are unavailable for our PCs.
So yes, maybe the formatting in question is not called mpeg2, does it even have a name? Or perhaps due to a misuse of language it is now called that. In any case, the formatting in question is neither FAT32, nor NTFS, nor anything else usable by PCs. Calling it that does not shock me as long as it refers to video compression.
So yes, maybe the formatting in question is not called mpeg2, does it even have a name? Or perhaps due to a misuse of language it is now called that. In any case, the formatting in question is neither FAT32, nor NTFS, nor anything else usable by PCs. Calling it that does not shock me as long as it refers to video compression.
No, the mpeg-2 format is, as izicolb has said and repeated, a type of video encoding used by (drum roll) digital television broadcasting via satellite, cable, telecommunications network, or terrestrial (just type MPEG-2 on Wikipedia), so it only pertains to encoding. As for hard drive formatting, there are a plethora of different formats, and it is possible that the one used by your television is not compatible with Windows but with Linux (in fact, embedded Linux is often used in this kind of hardware). You should try booting your PC with a Linux boot CD (check it out here: http://knoppix-fr.org/site/presentation) and see if the drive is read; if it is, then jackpot xD
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