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Hello Bruno 46130, in my opinion, must be working for PMU as he already says he has worked for them. As for the maintenance, I really doubt it; he comes to spy on forums to see what we say about the races. I guarantee you that it’s rigged, and all these reports of winnings he explains are nonsense. For example, when millions of euros are bet on a race and it's the favorites who win, well, it doesn't pay out at all. So don't come telling me that they redistribute 73 euros for every 100 euros wagered. Big nonsense, I guarantee you it's rigged. One piece of advice: don’t play where there’s gambling money; there's a scam. Go check the equipment used by jockeys on this site www.microearpiece.com
c'est encore moi si vous voulez voir le matériel qu'utilise le jockey allez sur ce site vous allez être sur le cul www.microearpiece.com voilà comment les gens se font arnaquer depuis des années je vous jure que je ne vous mens pas faites passer le message ça ne vous coûtera que 250 euros lol.
Hello,
It's incredible the nonsense I read!
I worked at PMU for 25 years! from office employee, to computer cabler, maintenance technician, sales, and then network development.
I left PMU, not necessarily on good terms with management, but reading all this crap, and that’s putting it mildly, reflects total ignorance!
Do you believe that when you know the odds of winning, PMU needs to rig its races?? What is PMU's interest, you ask? It is simply in its best interest that the maximum number of bettors win and not lose!!!!!!!
Why? Because PMU is an organization that manages betting and the redistribution of winnings and took in 2007 about 6.5% as a management fee.
The more players win, the more they play, and the turnover increases, and PMU makes more money.
If PMU were to rig, it would make people win, obviously, because that’s what would bring it more profit.
Just so you know, the distribution goes as follows, and it's no secret: out of €100 wagered, we give €73 to the bettors, 7% to the racing companies (French horses or France Galop), 6.5% to PMU and the rest to the state, which is almost 14%
As for the people who spread the nonsense mentioned above in the comments, they are either ignorant and speak without knowing, or sore losers!
If you play, the first thing to know how to do is lose! If you can't lose, you bet again to get back, you bet poorly, and you lose again, and so on, and then…
Regarding disqualified horses, and the little truck that follows, no one gives orders to jockeys with James Bond-like devices (stop smoking the carpet), those people are called "judges of paces" who ensure that jockeys never impede a horse advancing behind them (that’s why they often turn around), and that the horses maintain their perfect trot (no ‘traquenard’, for example), the ‘traquenard’ being a horse that trots with its front legs and gallops with its hind legs. They check the proper conduct of the race.
In conclusion, the best solution is in your hands: do not scatter in your bets, choose the one that suits you whether it's risky like a single Quinté, or 6 horses, or more secure like 2 out of 4, or multi in 5 for example, and most importantly…don’t overdo it!
It's incredible the nonsense I read!
I worked at PMU for 25 years! from office employee, to computer cabler, maintenance technician, sales, and then network development.
I left PMU, not necessarily on good terms with management, but reading all this crap, and that’s putting it mildly, reflects total ignorance!
Do you believe that when you know the odds of winning, PMU needs to rig its races?? What is PMU's interest, you ask? It is simply in its best interest that the maximum number of bettors win and not lose!!!!!!!
Why? Because PMU is an organization that manages betting and the redistribution of winnings and took in 2007 about 6.5% as a management fee.
The more players win, the more they play, and the turnover increases, and PMU makes more money.
If PMU were to rig, it would make people win, obviously, because that’s what would bring it more profit.
Just so you know, the distribution goes as follows, and it's no secret: out of €100 wagered, we give €73 to the bettors, 7% to the racing companies (French horses or France Galop), 6.5% to PMU and the rest to the state, which is almost 14%
As for the people who spread the nonsense mentioned above in the comments, they are either ignorant and speak without knowing, or sore losers!
If you play, the first thing to know how to do is lose! If you can't lose, you bet again to get back, you bet poorly, and you lose again, and so on, and then…
Regarding disqualified horses, and the little truck that follows, no one gives orders to jockeys with James Bond-like devices (stop smoking the carpet), those people are called "judges of paces" who ensure that jockeys never impede a horse advancing behind them (that’s why they often turn around), and that the horses maintain their perfect trot (no ‘traquenard’, for example), the ‘traquenard’ being a horse that trots with its front legs and gallops with its hind legs. They check the proper conduct of the race.
In conclusion, the best solution is in your hands: do not scatter in your bets, choose the one that suits you whether it's risky like a single Quinté, or 6 horses, or more secure like 2 out of 4, or multi in 5 for example, and most importantly…don’t overdo it!
All scammers those who ask for money to give us bad tips, don't give them anything.
However, I have decided to stop betting on horse races because after 8 months of intensive play, I conclude that the races are rigged. They are all in cahoots, whether it's jockeys, trainers, owners or tipsters; this little world needs to make a living, imagine if it was always the same ones winning (always the same jockey, the same trainer, etc., the same owner). And the PMU is in on this. Has it ever happened to you to see the horse you bet on 20 meters from the finish line and, as if by magic, despite having the race won, committing a fault?
Like the quinté, always a long shot that we didn't expect in the top 3 so that we don't win anything.
I'm not making this up.
Or the PMU announcing a big jackpot next Friday, a large pot to be won, and if you look closely at the results, all the favorites are there. Many bettors on that day.
Well, yes, we all bet on the favorites, we all won, result: no winnings. (For example, I played a quinté with 6 horses in flexi, so I paid 6 euros, I got the quinté in disorder and I won 2 euros 30)
Imagine the face I made lol.
That said, it's like certain sites like Z...turf, go take a look out of curiosity. They keep you hanging with lots of things and the end result is that you end up being scammed.
Look at foreign races, for example.
Let me give you an example: some time ago, before I stopped playing, I bet on a race in Sweden with 12 participants in harness racing; the smallest odds were 2/1 for the favorite, the other 11 varied from 21 to 87/1. The second favorite was precisely at 21/1. What I did was wait until the last moments just before the games closed. I played all 12 horses in a trio knowing full well that I would automatically get the trio.
Once my bet was validated and it closed at the same time, the odds had all dropped; the highest now was more than 10/1. I'm okay with odds dropping during the race because not all bets are validated.
But horses that had odds of 87/1 just 10 seconds before closing, which fell to 10/1, I call that a scam.
Another time on this same site I did a Z4, which is a multi or quarté in PMU terms.
I found the 4 first, no matter the order. I looked at the ORDER quarté PMU payout, which was 2700 euros, disorder around 130 euros, the multi 660 euros.
Result of the winnings on this site: 230 euros. I asked them how they based the payout.
They replied based on the PMU quarté in disorder. So everything is fine: 130 euros at PMU and 230 euros with them that I had won.
But what was my surprise 2 days later when the PMU disorder quarté from a race was 1700 euros and they reimbursed the bettor on their site 420 euros. They need to explain that to me.
I think these guys, who are abroad (Malta), also run their own business and decide how much they will reimburse.
For that, I always loved horses, but this corrupt little world of racing, I don't hold in high esteem. I think races should be a pleasure for you bettors, but don't try, like me, to hit the jackpot because you will quickly realize that what I just wrote is true.
Thank you for paying attention to my story.
However, I have decided to stop betting on horse races because after 8 months of intensive play, I conclude that the races are rigged. They are all in cahoots, whether it's jockeys, trainers, owners or tipsters; this little world needs to make a living, imagine if it was always the same ones winning (always the same jockey, the same trainer, etc., the same owner). And the PMU is in on this. Has it ever happened to you to see the horse you bet on 20 meters from the finish line and, as if by magic, despite having the race won, committing a fault?
Like the quinté, always a long shot that we didn't expect in the top 3 so that we don't win anything.
I'm not making this up.
Or the PMU announcing a big jackpot next Friday, a large pot to be won, and if you look closely at the results, all the favorites are there. Many bettors on that day.
Well, yes, we all bet on the favorites, we all won, result: no winnings. (For example, I played a quinté with 6 horses in flexi, so I paid 6 euros, I got the quinté in disorder and I won 2 euros 30)
Imagine the face I made lol.
That said, it's like certain sites like Z...turf, go take a look out of curiosity. They keep you hanging with lots of things and the end result is that you end up being scammed.
Look at foreign races, for example.
Let me give you an example: some time ago, before I stopped playing, I bet on a race in Sweden with 12 participants in harness racing; the smallest odds were 2/1 for the favorite, the other 11 varied from 21 to 87/1. The second favorite was precisely at 21/1. What I did was wait until the last moments just before the games closed. I played all 12 horses in a trio knowing full well that I would automatically get the trio.
Once my bet was validated and it closed at the same time, the odds had all dropped; the highest now was more than 10/1. I'm okay with odds dropping during the race because not all bets are validated.
But horses that had odds of 87/1 just 10 seconds before closing, which fell to 10/1, I call that a scam.
Another time on this same site I did a Z4, which is a multi or quarté in PMU terms.
I found the 4 first, no matter the order. I looked at the ORDER quarté PMU payout, which was 2700 euros, disorder around 130 euros, the multi 660 euros.
Result of the winnings on this site: 230 euros. I asked them how they based the payout.
They replied based on the PMU quarté in disorder. So everything is fine: 130 euros at PMU and 230 euros with them that I had won.
But what was my surprise 2 days later when the PMU disorder quarté from a race was 1700 euros and they reimbursed the bettor on their site 420 euros. They need to explain that to me.
I think these guys, who are abroad (Malta), also run their own business and decide how much they will reimburse.
For that, I always loved horses, but this corrupt little world of racing, I don't hold in high esteem. I think races should be a pleasure for you bettors, but don't try, like me, to hit the jackpot because you will quickly realize that what I just wrote is true.
Thank you for paying attention to my story.
I think mostly that you haven't understood anything...
You can't win so it's rigged!!!!
Not bad reasoning. You see 12 participants with a big favorite and the others at over 20 to 1, you go for a total combination trifecta... as long as there are guys like you, the PMU will keep raking it in, that's for sure...
As you said so well, it was a foreign race but managed for France by the PMU with a small stake. You would have bet 100 euros on one of the horses and its odds would have dropped to 8 or 10 to 1. It's a mutual system...
You can't win so it's rigged!!!!
Not bad reasoning. You see 12 participants with a big favorite and the others at over 20 to 1, you go for a total combination trifecta... as long as there are guys like you, the PMU will keep raking it in, that's for sure...
As you said so well, it was a foreign race but managed for France by the PMU with a small stake. You would have bet 100 euros on one of the horses and its odds would have dropped to 8 or 10 to 1. It's a mutual system...
Hello,
No, it has nothing to do with a scam; it's a gathering of players, similar to the hundreds that exist online.
Best regards
No, it has nothing to do with a scam; it's a gathering of players, similar to the hundreds that exist online.
Best regards
Good evening,
Thank you for your reply, I am not convinced, here's another gem received:
> Message from 02/07/09 23:25
> From: "Jules Carrus"
> To: atoubappolinaire@yahoo.fr
> Copy to: baky954@hotmail.com, balima2002@yahoo.fr, ballantoinette@yahoo.fr, barbhauenstein@hotmail.com, bardetmarie@voila.fr, baribary@hotmail.com, bartman@goquest.com, basimp73@yahoo.fr, atoubaappolinaire@yahoo.fr, baucher.jean@wanadoo.fr
> Subject: PMU-PROGRAMMING 2009
>
>
Finally, the PMU programming will no longer be a secret for you.
> Here is the programming file for the 06 horses, used by the LONAF / PMU section since its creation.
> You must have OFFICE (including POWERPOINT) installed on your computer beforehand.
> Then simply download the above file "PMU-Programming 2009.pps(763ko)" and double-click on the file to execute it. Click on "read only".
> You will then know that the PMU, long considered a game of chance, is nothing but pure programming where the 06 horses likely to win the quinté+ (05 horses + 01 reserve horse) are known before the start of the races. The only thing that matters is the order of arrival based on the amount of money piled up by the PMU organizers depending on the number of bettors.
> Example: if the programmed horses are as follows: 10-11-12-13-14-15 and out of a total of 1000 bettors
> we have 705 who played the combination: 11-12-13-10-14
> we have 290 who played the combination: 14-13-12-10-11
> we have 05 who played the combination: 15-14-13-12-10
> then the organizers decide 5 minutes before the race, after the closing of the TPM, that it should be 15-14-13-12-10 which will be the order of arrival for the race with only 05 winners in order.
> This will considerably reduce the number of winners and the LONAF will make a lot of money.
> Yes, it's a reality that the 06 programmed horses of the quinté+ are known before each race.
> After the closing of the TPM, the organizer gives the number of players in order according to the 06 programmed horses and the least played combination will then be considered as the order.
> Thus, the jockeys and drivers are warned before or during the start of the race because all the helmets they wear are filled with micro transmitters and anyone who does not follow the instructions is disqualified
> for excessive speed. It is a professional secret and they are required to respect it, which is what makes the PMU a mystery.
> When you follow the races live at the racetrack, you see your horse accelerate and towards the finish, it slows down and gets overtaken by other horses, this breaks your heart and you scream, or your horse comes in 2nd position but at the final arrival, it gets disqualified for excessive speed, why? The answer is simple, your horse is not among the 06 programmed horses and since the jockey was not warned in time, or the horse did not respect the instructions and wins, it gets disqualified.
> Tell me why an outsider horse wins a race instead of a favorite?
> Keep our conversation as a professional secret and never disclose it.
>
I am Mr. Jules Carrus, one of the great-grandsons of Mr. André CARRUS, creator and founder of the PMU.
> My grandfather, my father, and many other family members are all enthusiasts and still hold a share of this game's monopoly.
> Therefore, officially we must not play, this applies to all programming directors.
> We are forced to go through intermediaries to play because we already know the programmed numbers.
> It's only the order of these numbers that appears like a question of luck based on the number of players in the order of the chosen horses as I mentioned in the previous example.
> Given the pain and suffering that bettors endure, I have therefore decided to reveal this secret only to 04 people that I randomly selected from a total of thousands of email addresses obtained from PMU racing directories.
> If this programming has reached you, keep it a secret and enjoy the winnings
> 1) Download the file - 2) Execute it. 3) Once the program is open, do not click with the mouse until the end of execution. 4) Simply copy the N° of the programmed horses and have them validated.
>
** For you the 10 selected Turfists, I am putting this programming up for auction that will allow you to win at the races without difficulty.
>
The auction starts at €250 for 01 month of programming
Download - Execute the file and after observation, make your offer.
NB: Keep our conversation secret and especially the programming for yourself alone.
Looking forward
Good reading,
Jean
Thank you for your reply, I am not convinced, here's another gem received:
> Message from 02/07/09 23:25
> From: "Jules Carrus"
> To: atoubappolinaire@yahoo.fr
> Copy to: baky954@hotmail.com, balima2002@yahoo.fr, ballantoinette@yahoo.fr, barbhauenstein@hotmail.com, bardetmarie@voila.fr, baribary@hotmail.com, bartman@goquest.com, basimp73@yahoo.fr, atoubaappolinaire@yahoo.fr, baucher.jean@wanadoo.fr
> Subject: PMU-PROGRAMMING 2009
>
>
Finally, the PMU programming will no longer be a secret for you.
> Here is the programming file for the 06 horses, used by the LONAF / PMU section since its creation.
> You must have OFFICE (including POWERPOINT) installed on your computer beforehand.
> Then simply download the above file "PMU-Programming 2009.pps(763ko)" and double-click on the file to execute it. Click on "read only".
> You will then know that the PMU, long considered a game of chance, is nothing but pure programming where the 06 horses likely to win the quinté+ (05 horses + 01 reserve horse) are known before the start of the races. The only thing that matters is the order of arrival based on the amount of money piled up by the PMU organizers depending on the number of bettors.
> Example: if the programmed horses are as follows: 10-11-12-13-14-15 and out of a total of 1000 bettors
> we have 705 who played the combination: 11-12-13-10-14
> we have 290 who played the combination: 14-13-12-10-11
> we have 05 who played the combination: 15-14-13-12-10
> then the organizers decide 5 minutes before the race, after the closing of the TPM, that it should be 15-14-13-12-10 which will be the order of arrival for the race with only 05 winners in order.
> This will considerably reduce the number of winners and the LONAF will make a lot of money.
> Yes, it's a reality that the 06 programmed horses of the quinté+ are known before each race.
> After the closing of the TPM, the organizer gives the number of players in order according to the 06 programmed horses and the least played combination will then be considered as the order.
> Thus, the jockeys and drivers are warned before or during the start of the race because all the helmets they wear are filled with micro transmitters and anyone who does not follow the instructions is disqualified
> for excessive speed. It is a professional secret and they are required to respect it, which is what makes the PMU a mystery.
> When you follow the races live at the racetrack, you see your horse accelerate and towards the finish, it slows down and gets overtaken by other horses, this breaks your heart and you scream, or your horse comes in 2nd position but at the final arrival, it gets disqualified for excessive speed, why? The answer is simple, your horse is not among the 06 programmed horses and since the jockey was not warned in time, or the horse did not respect the instructions and wins, it gets disqualified.
> Tell me why an outsider horse wins a race instead of a favorite?
> Keep our conversation as a professional secret and never disclose it.
>
I am Mr. Jules Carrus, one of the great-grandsons of Mr. André CARRUS, creator and founder of the PMU.
> My grandfather, my father, and many other family members are all enthusiasts and still hold a share of this game's monopoly.
> Therefore, officially we must not play, this applies to all programming directors.
> We are forced to go through intermediaries to play because we already know the programmed numbers.
> It's only the order of these numbers that appears like a question of luck based on the number of players in the order of the chosen horses as I mentioned in the previous example.
> Given the pain and suffering that bettors endure, I have therefore decided to reveal this secret only to 04 people that I randomly selected from a total of thousands of email addresses obtained from PMU racing directories.
> If this programming has reached you, keep it a secret and enjoy the winnings
> 1) Download the file - 2) Execute it. 3) Once the program is open, do not click with the mouse until the end of execution. 4) Simply copy the N° of the programmed horses and have them validated.
>
** For you the 10 selected Turfists, I am putting this programming up for auction that will allow you to win at the races without difficulty.
>
The auction starts at €250 for 01 month of programming
Download - Execute the file and after observation, make your offer.
NB: Keep our conversation secret and especially the programming for yourself alone.
Looking forward
Good reading,
Jean
Hello. I received the same email this morning.
Well, well, that's strange.. This Jules Carrus said, I quote, that we were only "05 people I randomly chose from a total of thousands of email addresses obtained from PMU horse racing directories". Come on..
The lie starts already.. There are definitely more than 5 of us who received this email.
Plus, am I registered "in the PMU horse racing directories"? Come on..
Also, his message seems quite surreal to me...
He finally tells us "The bids start at €250 for 01 month of programming".
DO NOT PAY ANYTHING!
STAY AWAY.
Well, well, that's strange.. This Jules Carrus said, I quote, that we were only "05 people I randomly chose from a total of thousands of email addresses obtained from PMU horse racing directories". Come on..
The lie starts already.. There are definitely more than 5 of us who received this email.
Plus, am I registered "in the PMU horse racing directories"? Come on..
Also, his message seems quite surreal to me...
He finally tells us "The bids start at €250 for 01 month of programming".
DO NOT PAY ANYTHING!
STAY AWAY.
it's a scam, I fell into the trap
he changes his predictions after the event to achieve exceptional results, which is simply impossible in reality
more unscrupulous Africans again
he changes his predictions after the event to achieve exceptional results, which is simply impossible in reality
more unscrupulous Africans again
C'est sûr qu'ils ne vont pas te donner de bons conseils pour gagner et surtout ne pas donner le numéro de carte bancaire, ils pourraient te retirer bien plus que prévu.
It's true that Carrus is a scam, but in what he says there's almost some truth. The races are indeed fixed. The jockeys don't have earpieces in their helmets, but they do have them in their ears; it's espionage equipment they use, and it's the truck that follows them during the race that gives them instructions to follow. The earpiece is slipped into the ear near the eardrum and is only 5mm long. They remove it at the end of the meeting using a metal rod sold with the espionage equipment; it's completely invisible to the naked eye. That's how they scam us; that's the real truth. As for knowing the outcome of the race beforehand, that's impossible because the instructions for the official outcome are given during the race.
Hello,
The starting capital depends on your means; there is no limit, it ranges from 1 euro to infinity.
Every 42 days you earn about 40 to 45 percent of your capital; honestly, it's a good business and risk-free.
I just deposited 500 euros, and my sponsor, who only does this, has been killing it for 8 months; I have known him for over 2 years and trust him 100%.
He withdraws every month without any problem and gets his money in 5 hours; it's super fast.
Registrations will be limited, so first come, first served.
Best regards, Mickael.
At your service.
The starting capital depends on your means; there is no limit, it ranges from 1 euro to infinity.
Every 42 days you earn about 40 to 45 percent of your capital; honestly, it's a good business and risk-free.
I just deposited 500 euros, and my sponsor, who only does this, has been killing it for 8 months; I have known him for over 2 years and trust him 100%.
He withdraws every month without any problem and gets his money in 5 hours; it's super fast.
Registrations will be limited, so first come, first served.
Best regards, Mickael.
At your service.
Here's one who doesn't even read the profiles, it's normal he prefers to remain anonymous, it's easier when he advocates for a scam system.
See you later
See you later
Nothing because the insults made by the anonymous person were deleted by a mod, but my responses remain; that’s why?
see you+
see you+
For my part, I have been a PMU player for over 15 years and I have a friend who is a racehorse breeder...
It is impossible to know the outcome of a PMU race in advance!!!! It's really nonsense!!!
The jockeys' or drivers' helmets don't have microphones!!!
I’m dying of laughter reading such nonsense!!!!!!!!!!
It's yet another African scam!!! Our African friends keep flooding our computers with emails to make money hand over fist!!
Never fall into this trap!!!
It is impossible to know the outcome of a PMU race in advance!!!! It's really nonsense!!!
The jockeys' or drivers' helmets don't have microphones!!!
I’m dying of laughter reading such nonsense!!!!!!!!!!
It's yet another African scam!!! Our African friends keep flooding our computers with emails to make money hand over fist!!
Never fall into this trap!!!
I am also a turf player and I have another business that brings me quite a lot of money and it's 100% safe.
I will leave you my link for a business that pays well and is risk-free.
http://sportarbs.com?ref=9001
Feel free to share it with your acquaintances if you wish.
Thank you, Mickael.
with sportabs, what was your starting capital and how much have you made so far?
it's not easy to understand.
best regards