New scam from Ivory Coast
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Hello,
thanks to this forum that also helped us avoid a scam of this kind!
we were contacted via SMS by a certain "Ludovic Le Tirant" who after seeing the photos via email was VERY interested in the vehicle for sale...
he didn't even negotiate the price, surprising...
without having seen it, he sent us right from the first email a copy of his passport, the transfer certificates, and a sales promise, still blank, of course!
organized, that guy....
and he offers us a bank transfer, and then the vehicle pick-up by a freight forwarder
after searching for the phone number, with the country code, we discovered it was a mobile number in Ivory Coast... ouch, the goat is unmasked!!!
it's clear that these scammers don't waste time, and quickly ask for a bank account details and a copy of the identity card!!!!
apparently they can be active with the identity card....
we didn't communicate anything like that, phew, but our address in France appeared in one of the emails.... before we discovered the attempted scam. should we be worried????
thank you for all your testimonies!!!!
thanks to this forum that also helped us avoid a scam of this kind!
we were contacted via SMS by a certain "Ludovic Le Tirant" who after seeing the photos via email was VERY interested in the vehicle for sale...
he didn't even negotiate the price, surprising...
without having seen it, he sent us right from the first email a copy of his passport, the transfer certificates, and a sales promise, still blank, of course!
organized, that guy....
and he offers us a bank transfer, and then the vehicle pick-up by a freight forwarder
after searching for the phone number, with the country code, we discovered it was a mobile number in Ivory Coast... ouch, the goat is unmasked!!!
it's clear that these scammers don't waste time, and quickly ask for a bank account details and a copy of the identity card!!!!
apparently they can be active with the identity card....
we didn't communicate anything like that, phew, but our address in France appeared in one of the emails.... before we discovered the attempted scam. should we be worried????
thank you for all your testimonies!!!!
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Good evening everyone
Here is the last email I received and all the history of emails I sent and received
Being cautious, the account I provided is useless to me and there are no transactions on it, which I pointed out to him, so only the 417 euros interests him!!!
I think I'm going to play with this gentleman a little longer...
GOOD EVENING MR
I acknowledge receipt of your bank details and I went to my bank to check my balance and how to make the transfer.
I also come with good news since the transfer is possible and requires 3 days for you to be credited after completing the formalities.
Indeed, there are formalities to fulfill, I would have liked my manager to explain this to you in person but I preferred to talk to you myself since it's me who would like to buy your vehicle and it's from my account that this money will come out.
I understand that since the beginning of the crisis in this country, there have been several embezzlements of public funds; funds that have been expatriated to foreign countries by senior officials of this country who had access to Financial Services or through certain responsible parties, not to mention money laundering and the ends to which these sums will serve (arms purchases, maintaining rebellions and armed groups outside the country, active boycotts, and other actions against the pursuit of peace ...).
So in the face of this, controls are in place and now a tax must be paid to the tax service by cash order since they have no institution in France, accompanied by a handwritten discharge stating that the funded account belongs to you and that our transaction is legal and has no dubious end.
This means that once the transfer is initiated, I will scan the transfer order receipts to you by email but the transfer will be blocked at the tax regulation office for verification and control of both parties, that is, you and me, and it is at that moment that the tax regulation office will contact us both (you and me) to ask us to pay our taxes in order to unlock and validate the transfer so it can be routed to your account within the swift timeframe of three (3) days.
The amount of taxes is 417€ that you are charged and 525€ for me.
I think this shouldn't pose any problems since I wanted your share of the tax that you will pay to the tax regulation office to be directly debited from my account and added to the total transfer amount, meaning I will transfer you 14717€ instead of 14300€.
But I would only like to have your agreement before making the transfer since the transfer is irreversible and once initiated, you will also need to regularize the transfer conditions for the taxes in order to be credited within the swift deadline (3) days.
I don't want to risk being subjected to a tax control so I want to be sure if we agree on the principle. Because I don't want this deal which started so well to end badly. I think you are a trustworthy person and it's with a person like you that I would like to buy a car like yours. I want to reiterate that the transfer will be blocked without us paying the tax. So I am sending you my passport as an attachment to reassure you.
Thank you for replying to me either by email to give me your response, and your card if possible.
Best regards.
MR DAVID PASCUAL
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:25:41 +0000
From: sjubault@yahoo.fr
Subject: Re: REQUEST FOR YOUR BANK DETAILS
To: davidpascual@live.fr
Hello,
Okay, so for the price of 14300 euros
My address: Mr. Jubault Stéphane 47 rue d'azé 41100 Vendôme
Tel: 0254800175
: 0618396939
Attached is a bank details (serving just as a deposit)
Good reception
Sincerely
Mr. Jubault
--- On: Tue, 17.6.08, David Pascual <davidpascual@live.fr> wrote:
From: David Pascual <davidpascual@live.fr>
Subject: REQUEST FOR YOUR BANK DETAILS
To: sjubault@yahoo.fr
Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 11:47 AM
Okay, I accept the transfer, for that I will need
-your bank details
-and address and phone number (landline and mobile)
For retrieval after making the transfer, we will set a date together.
Thank you for sending me the documents
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:42:23 +0000
From: sjubault@yahoo.fr
Subject: RE: PAYMENT METHOD
To: davidpascual@live.fr
Yes, indeed the payment method I accept is only bank transfer and the transaction will take place after my bank's verification
However, if you are working in Africa, how do you plan to see the car and carry out the transaction?
Mr. Jubault
--- On: Mon, 16.6.08, David Pascual <davidpascual@live.fr> wrote:
From: David Pascual <davidpascual@live.fr>
Subject: RE: PAYMENT METHOD
To: "Stéphane Jubault" <sjubault@yahoo.fr>
Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:31 PM
Good evening, thank you for replying and I admit that your car really has charm. I am in Africa for work reasons as I am an epidemiologist at the WHO. After being notified, they recommend the bank transfer for the purchase of the car. So if yes, let me know.
MR DAVID
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:24:43 +0000
From: sjubault@yahoo.fr
Subject: C4 ad
To: davidpascual@live.fr
Hello,
You have no repairs to make, the tires are new (1000 km), I bought the car from a collaborator when it was 6 months old, so it's practically a first-hand car, the service (30000 km) was done at 29000 km, and I took the opportunity to change the pollen filter which is done approximately every two years and at the same time a recharge of the air conditioning (invoice in support)
My price is negotiable within reason of course, knowing that the car is in excellent condition and well maintained
I am attaching the photos
Sincerely
Mr. Jubault
Here is the last email I received and all the history of emails I sent and received
Being cautious, the account I provided is useless to me and there are no transactions on it, which I pointed out to him, so only the 417 euros interests him!!!
I think I'm going to play with this gentleman a little longer...
GOOD EVENING MR
I acknowledge receipt of your bank details and I went to my bank to check my balance and how to make the transfer.
I also come with good news since the transfer is possible and requires 3 days for you to be credited after completing the formalities.
Indeed, there are formalities to fulfill, I would have liked my manager to explain this to you in person but I preferred to talk to you myself since it's me who would like to buy your vehicle and it's from my account that this money will come out.
I understand that since the beginning of the crisis in this country, there have been several embezzlements of public funds; funds that have been expatriated to foreign countries by senior officials of this country who had access to Financial Services or through certain responsible parties, not to mention money laundering and the ends to which these sums will serve (arms purchases, maintaining rebellions and armed groups outside the country, active boycotts, and other actions against the pursuit of peace ...).
So in the face of this, controls are in place and now a tax must be paid to the tax service by cash order since they have no institution in France, accompanied by a handwritten discharge stating that the funded account belongs to you and that our transaction is legal and has no dubious end.
This means that once the transfer is initiated, I will scan the transfer order receipts to you by email but the transfer will be blocked at the tax regulation office for verification and control of both parties, that is, you and me, and it is at that moment that the tax regulation office will contact us both (you and me) to ask us to pay our taxes in order to unlock and validate the transfer so it can be routed to your account within the swift timeframe of three (3) days.
The amount of taxes is 417€ that you are charged and 525€ for me.
I think this shouldn't pose any problems since I wanted your share of the tax that you will pay to the tax regulation office to be directly debited from my account and added to the total transfer amount, meaning I will transfer you 14717€ instead of 14300€.
But I would only like to have your agreement before making the transfer since the transfer is irreversible and once initiated, you will also need to regularize the transfer conditions for the taxes in order to be credited within the swift deadline (3) days.
I don't want to risk being subjected to a tax control so I want to be sure if we agree on the principle. Because I don't want this deal which started so well to end badly. I think you are a trustworthy person and it's with a person like you that I would like to buy a car like yours. I want to reiterate that the transfer will be blocked without us paying the tax. So I am sending you my passport as an attachment to reassure you.
Thank you for replying to me either by email to give me your response, and your card if possible.
Best regards.
MR DAVID PASCUAL
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:25:41 +0000
From: sjubault@yahoo.fr
Subject: Re: REQUEST FOR YOUR BANK DETAILS
To: davidpascual@live.fr
Hello,
Okay, so for the price of 14300 euros
My address: Mr. Jubault Stéphane 47 rue d'azé 41100 Vendôme
Tel: 0254800175
: 0618396939
Attached is a bank details (serving just as a deposit)
Good reception
Sincerely
Mr. Jubault
--- On: Tue, 17.6.08, David Pascual <davidpascual@live.fr> wrote:
From: David Pascual <davidpascual@live.fr>
Subject: REQUEST FOR YOUR BANK DETAILS
To: sjubault@yahoo.fr
Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 11:47 AM
Okay, I accept the transfer, for that I will need
-your bank details
-and address and phone number (landline and mobile)
For retrieval after making the transfer, we will set a date together.
Thank you for sending me the documents
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:42:23 +0000
From: sjubault@yahoo.fr
Subject: RE: PAYMENT METHOD
To: davidpascual@live.fr
Yes, indeed the payment method I accept is only bank transfer and the transaction will take place after my bank's verification
However, if you are working in Africa, how do you plan to see the car and carry out the transaction?
Mr. Jubault
--- On: Mon, 16.6.08, David Pascual <davidpascual@live.fr> wrote:
From: David Pascual <davidpascual@live.fr>
Subject: RE: PAYMENT METHOD
To: "Stéphane Jubault" <sjubault@yahoo.fr>
Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 9:31 PM
Good evening, thank you for replying and I admit that your car really has charm. I am in Africa for work reasons as I am an epidemiologist at the WHO. After being notified, they recommend the bank transfer for the purchase of the car. So if yes, let me know.
MR DAVID
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:24:43 +0000
From: sjubault@yahoo.fr
Subject: C4 ad
To: davidpascual@live.fr
Hello,
You have no repairs to make, the tires are new (1000 km), I bought the car from a collaborator when it was 6 months old, so it's practically a first-hand car, the service (30000 km) was done at 29000 km, and I took the opportunity to change the pollen filter which is done approximately every two years and at the same time a recharge of the air conditioning (invoice in support)
My price is negotiable within reason of course, knowing that the car is in excellent condition and well maintained
I am attaching the photos
Sincerely
Mr. Jubault
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I was in the middle of a transaction with Mr. RACHID BAJTI until 1 PM today.
Apparently, it's the same story. They fell in love with my car (him and his wife) and their son, who is returning to France, is coming to pick up the car on October 15th.
After several email and phone contacts, I sent my bank account details.
I just spoke with the Director of the OFFICE FOR THE REGULATION OF TRANSFERS OF IVORY COAST who asked me to go to the post office (Western Union service) to pay the tax of 777 euros per mandate.
It seemed strange to me, so I did some research and came across your message (THANK YOU SO MUCH), thanks to you I'm avoiding a big scam.
I immediately called my bank and phew, he can't do anything with my bank account details.
The director and Mr. RACHID are supposed to call me back this afternoon and I will be happy to respond to them!!!