how to set my SATA drive to slave

Question

my configuration:
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional sp1

Motherboard:
Processor Type: AMD Duron, 1300 MHz (13 x 100)
Motherboard Name: Matsonic MS8137C(+) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 CNR, 4 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset: VIA VT8366(A) Apollo KT266(A)
System Memory: 2 GB (PC2100 DDR SDRAM)

BIOS Type: Award Modular (09/02/02)
BIOS Properties:
Vendor: Award Software International, Inc.
Version: 6.00 PG
Release Date: 09/02/2002

IDE Hard Drive 1: Maxtor 6E030L0 (30 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133)
SATA Hard Drive 2: Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS - 1TB SATA II 32MB

Hello

I bought a 1TB SATA hard drive (Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS - 1TB SATA II 32MB
) to increase my storage capacity.
Since my motherboard does not support SATA connections, I bought an adapter that connects to the SATA hard drive and allows me to plug in the IDE cable and connect the standard power supply of IDE hard drives:
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180337255503&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:FR:11

My problem is that this SATA hard drive automatically sets itself as master while Windows is installed on my IDE hard drive, which ends up as slave: therefore my PC won't boot and I get stuck on the page summarizing the devices.
I have tried all jumper positions, without the jumpers, changing the order of connections on the IDE cable, and modifying the BIOS to choose which hard drive to boot from: nothing works, the SATA hard drive always stubbornly sets itself as master (when recognized).

A few clarifications:
- I want to keep my Windows installation on my IDE and use my SATA only for storing data.
- The second IDE connection on my motherboard is already taken by my CD-ROM and DVD burner (and my motherboard only has 2 IDE connections).

MY QUESTIONS:
- How can I make this pesky SATA hard drive become slave and my IDE become master?
- Do you have any other solutions besides this adapter to connect the SATA?

My additional question:
in case this solution involves a PCI card with 2 SATA / 1 IDE internal (http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=220391695088
I have a novice question (noob, casual computer user, tenderfoot, etc...mock me, mock me):
regarding the power supply of the SATA hard drive, with this PCI card how will the power be supplied:
- by the motherboard? (through the PCI card)
- or does the SATA hard drive need to connect elsewhere? (for example, with a power cable from the hard drive that connects to the motherboard)

That's it, I believe I haven't forgotten anything.

Thank you in advance, good sirs and madams.

Configuration: Windows XP Firefox 3.0.8

Nabla's · Answer

Hi. So, on SATA hard drives, there's no master-slave setting because they are the only ones on the SATA cable.
So... in your case, the setting should be on the adapter...

What I recommend you do is either:

- Leave this SATA hard drive as master, and set your other drive as SLAVE, and then set in the BIOS for the SLAVE drive to boot first. I'm convinced you can do this; either you have a setting where you directly select the hard drive to boot first, or you have something like C, CDROM, floppy (a list) and the letter C corresponds to the primary master, D -> primary slave, E -> secondary master, F -> secondary slave....

- Second solution, connect your system drive as primary master (like currently, with your CD drive as slave on the same cable, and on the second cable, your SATA hard drive as master, and the burner as slave.

aiglenoirdu29 · Answer

Good evening,

well then
- why did you buy a SATA drive when your motherboard doesn't support it?

and

- as for the controller card, the power supply must come from a SATA power connector, which you apparently don't have.

In short, your tower has neither the connections nor the SATA power supply.

So go for IDE instead of doing some DIY that will end up costing you more than the drive for performance equal to IDE.

--
What you wouldn't do in a real conversation with your counterpart, don't take the internet as a shield to do so.

epango · Answer

Hi,

The best solution is the controller card. Here is one at an affordable price:

https://www.materiel.net/

Cheers

--
If you don't know, you ask, you feel ashamed once.
If you don't ask, you will feel ashamed your whole life. Chinese proverb.

deux ex quinina · Answer

quick and precise and all that almost immediately: you are amazing (and insomniacs, next time I'll ask a question at 4 a.m. just to see if anyone's around, heh heh).
what else to say but thank you for your help and I want to add a few targeted details:

Nabla's: "in your case, the adjustment should have been on the adapter": this adapter has no
pins to put the jumper on (and I don't see anything else that could be used for adjustment).

Nabla's: "...adjust in the bios so that the SLAVE disk boots first...":
to choose what boots I have the following options in my bios:
floppy/ls120/hdd-0/scsi/cdrom/hdd-1/hdd-2/hdd-3/zip100/usb-fdd/usb-zip/usb-hdd/lan/disabled
and I can't choose from letters (my bios dates back to 2002 and I haven't updated it because I've always had fears when it comes to flashing hardware).
in case it is informative, I specify my boot order, I put the cdrom first, the floppy second and the hard disk third (and with only the IDE hard disk installed, it is in the hdd-0 position)

aiglenoirdu29: "why buy a SATA disk when your motherboard doesn't support it?": because I didn't find a 1TB internal IDE hard disk (but if you have any leads, I'm interested).

aiglenoirdu29: "instead of tinkering which will end up costing you more than the disk for performance equal to IDE.": I made a compromise between the desired capacity for my hard disk and my budget hence the tinkering.
for info: the disk + the adapter cost me 108 euros all included (I think that is reasonable, especially since, I reiterate, this disk will only be used to store data and not for gaming for example, so transfer speed is not crucial).
I also specify that I cautiously chose a brand that seems to have a good reputation (Western Digital) and a hard disk that heats and consumes little.
feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.

just a few questions:
- I did know that SATA is no longer managed in master and slave mode, but on my SATA there are pins to put the jumper; does this feature still exist to allow the transition for some (like me) between IDE and SATA? Are there other reasons?
- out of pure curiosity, I'd like to know if there can be a conflict between putting a system disk as a slave AND booting from it.

thank you again and I will try what Nabla's advises: "connect your system disk as primary master (as currently, with your CD drive on the same cable as slave, and on the second cable, your SATA hard disk as master, and the burner as slave."
I will keep you updated to see if it works or not.

best regards

deux ex quinina · Answer

Hello

Late but surely, here is the continuation of my SATAesque adventures as planned.

Regarding the above:
- I tried again to indicate through the BIOS which disk to boot from: nothing worked, the PC didn’t boot (and I tried all the possibilities: HDD-0, HDD-1, HDD-2, or HDD-3)
- I changed the connections and connected my system disk as primary master, with my CD drive as slave on the same ribbon, and on the second ribbon, my SATA hard drive as master, and the burner as slave (thanks to Nabla's for this idea): the burner was no longer recognized.

I would like to clarify that with the adapter (before formatting the SATA disk) in the BIOS, I saw a capacity of 130GB (for a 1000GB disk!) and that in a description for another type of adapter "IDE port/SATA disk" (which connects directly to the IDE port), the seller stated that it would be set as master directly, which could explain the little issues with mine.

So, following these irritating difficulties, I ordered a PCI card (the English title is "via 3 sata serial ata ide port pci ard vt6421a+", delivered with 2 SATA cables and a mini-disc of drivers but without a technical manual, just a sheet summarizing the features).
The assembly and startup went smoothly (no difficulties with the driver installation) nor any tweaking in the BIOS (and I said: "phew")
The data transfer speed, without timing it, seems normal to me (no apparent delays).

Here is my current configuration:
- As the base disk (NTFS), I have my 30GB IDE hard disk (properties indicate 29,314 MB) partitioned into a "system" disk and a "boot" disk (which contains Windows).

- As a dynamic disk (NTFS), I have my 1000GB IDE disk (properties indicate 953,867 MB)

Just 3 little questions:
- Did I make a mistake by setting the SATA as a dynamic disk? (Could I have done it differently; but it seems to me that I could only choose to convert to a dynamic disk)

- For the SATA, is it normal to have 953.867 GB in properties and not 1000 GB (I clarify that of course this is the figure that comes after formatting done by Windows).
In the Computer Management/storage/disk management part, there appears to be a capacity of 931.51 GB, is that also normal?

- Do you think that I should enable write caching on my SATA?

Best regards.

NP

How to set my SATA drive to slave

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