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Hello,
I want to buy an LCD in Asia to bring back to France with me. Here, the format is PAL-G. In France, the format is MESECAM (I believe). I'm almost sure it won't work using our good old terrestrial system. But my question is: if I use an analog box like Canalsat, Freebox, TNT... and the like, will my TV be able to display the images since the signal is decoded by this box?
Experts of signals/networks, thank you in advance for your help.
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I want to buy an LCD in Asia to bring back to France with me. Here, the format is PAL-G. In France, the format is MESECAM (I believe). I'm almost sure it won't work using our good old terrestrial system. But my question is: if I use an analog box like Canalsat, Freebox, TNT... and the like, will my TV be able to display the images since the signal is decoded by this box?
Experts of signals/networks, thank you in advance for your help.
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Nowadays, all manufacturers are focused on satisfying the global market, so it's certain that TVs made in Korea or Japan are multistandard (PAL, SECAM, NT...).
I'm not French, so I apologize for the mistakes.
I'm not French, so I apologize for the mistakes.
ok, but the seller (in Singapore) assured me that the TVs were in PAL-G.
are you sure of your info?
I don't want to throw 600E out the window.
thanks
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are you sure of your info?
I don't want to throw 600E out the window.
thanks
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Can you give me the reference for the LCD, so that I can confirm it?
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I am not French, so sorry for the mistakes.
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I am not French, so sorry for the mistakes.
I don't have an exact reference. For now, I've just compared the prices. The only thing I can tell you is that it will be a Samsung or a Sharp (full HD).
Hello.
Is there anyone else who could give me good advice on my problem?? please.
Thank you in advance.
Is there anyone else who could give me good advice on my problem?? please.
Thank you in advance.
Hello yan38,
First of all, I'm not sure this is the right forum to discuss this; I think you would have gotten more responses on the video forum...
PAL G and SECAM L in France (MESECAM is in the Middle East) are TV standards,
whereas an LCD screen is a monitor that displays images from a PC or a box;
it does not have a tuner or integrated TNT decoder, otherwise it is called a television.
So what do you intend to buy? An LCD screen or an LCD television?
If it's an LCD screen, the analog video standards (VGA input) or digital (DVI input) are universal.
If it's a TV, you need to check if it decodes the SECAM L format, the TV standard in France (there's little chance...)
As for TNT standards, I don't know; I'm doing some research...
First of all, I'm not sure this is the right forum to discuss this; I think you would have gotten more responses on the video forum...
PAL G and SECAM L in France (MESECAM is in the Middle East) are TV standards,
whereas an LCD screen is a monitor that displays images from a PC or a box;
it does not have a tuner or integrated TNT decoder, otherwise it is called a television.
So what do you intend to buy? An LCD screen or an LCD television?
If it's an LCD screen, the analog video standards (VGA input) or digital (DVI input) are universal.
If it's a TV, you need to check if it decodes the SECAM L format, the TV standard in France (there's little chance...)
As for TNT standards, I don't know; I'm doing some research...
Hello,
Yan, I am currently researching your issue.
As for Marc Marais, I want to clarify that the product reference given by Yan is a Samsung full HD television, it's a LA and not a LE, which means it's an LCD intended for the Asian + Middle Eastern and African markets, while the LE is intended for the European market. Just to let you know, these products work well in Algeria, with all systems.
That's all I can tell you for now, but I am still looking for a solution to your problem.
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I am not French, so sorry for the mistakes.
Yan, I am currently researching your issue.
As for Marc Marais, I want to clarify that the product reference given by Yan is a Samsung full HD television, it's a LA and not a LE, which means it's an LCD intended for the Asian + Middle Eastern and African markets, while the LE is intended for the European market. Just to let you know, these products work well in Algeria, with all systems.
That's all I can tell you for now, but I am still looking for a solution to your problem.
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I am not French, so sorry for the mistakes.
Ok, that’s true, lack of precision.
I would like to buy an LCD TV.
Basically, I want to know what type of signal comes out of the CanalSat boxes, etc.
Because in the end, it’s this box that decodes the French SECAM system.
Thank you.
I would like to buy an LCD TV.
Basically, I want to know what type of signal comes out of the CanalSat boxes, etc.
Because in the end, it’s this box that decodes the French SECAM system.
Thank you.
ramio, please don't pollute the discussion of a gentleman who is seeking help. Find another place for that.
Ok, for a TV to work in France, its tuner must be able to decode the Secam L, the official standard in France.
The color standards are Secam, Pal, or Ntsc.
The letter that comes after, L, G, ... refers to the terrestrial broadcasting standard (carrier modulation).
In North Africa, the standard is Secam G; the color standard is the same, but the terrestrial broadcasting standard is not, so a TV that works in Algeria does not work in France and vice versa, unless it supports both standards, G and L.
A TV that is only PAL G will display a black and white image in North Africa and no image in France.
I still don't know about the DTT; is it a European or global standard...?
The color standards are Secam, Pal, or Ntsc.
The letter that comes after, L, G, ... refers to the terrestrial broadcasting standard (carrier modulation).
In North Africa, the standard is Secam G; the color standard is the same, but the terrestrial broadcasting standard is not, so a TV that works in Algeria does not work in France and vice versa, unless it supports both standards, G and L.
A TV that is only PAL G will display a black and white image in North Africa and no image in France.
I still don't know about the DTT; is it a European or global standard...?
I'm far from your skills in PAL, SECAM... and all, but...
there's something I didn't understand, so... do digital boxes use the tuner?? It seemed to me that the tuner was only used for terrestrial signals!!??
there's something I didn't understand, so... do digital boxes use the tuner?? It seemed to me that the tuner was only used for terrestrial signals!!??
Yes, a tuner is for terrestrial, sorry, I read your first message a bit too quickly.
If you have a box or TNT decoder, or any other device that decodes analog or digital signals, terrestrial or not, you can connect its output to the video input of your TV: SCART, HDMI, or S-VHS + audio,...
For example, a Numéricable decoder outputs combined video and audio signals on SCART connectors or separated signals on S-VHS (video) and RCA (audio) connectors, or even composite video + sound (RCA).
A Freebox outputs video and sound signals on a SCART, just like a CanalSat decoder.
You can then connect these video and sound outputs to the corresponding inputs of an LCD TV, video projector,...
In the case of your Pal G LCD TV, you need to make sure it has video and sound inputs of one of the standards I mentioned earlier, such as SCART or S-VHS (video) and RCA (audio), or composite video + sound (RCA).
HDMI is different, as I don't think the boxes are equipped with it currently.
If you have a box or TNT decoder, or any other device that decodes analog or digital signals, terrestrial or not, you can connect its output to the video input of your TV: SCART, HDMI, or S-VHS + audio,...
For example, a Numéricable decoder outputs combined video and audio signals on SCART connectors or separated signals on S-VHS (video) and RCA (audio) connectors, or even composite video + sound (RCA).
A Freebox outputs video and sound signals on a SCART, just like a CanalSat decoder.
You can then connect these video and sound outputs to the corresponding inputs of an LCD TV, video projector,...
In the case of your Pal G LCD TV, you need to make sure it has video and sound inputs of one of the standards I mentioned earlier, such as SCART or S-VHS (video) and RCA (audio), or composite video + sound (RCA).
HDMI is different, as I don't think the boxes are equipped with it currently.
I found via Wikipedia and then Google, video transcoder SECAM => PAL
Do you know if this type of device does not cause too much loss?
If I use a basic PAL/SECAM VCR to connect the Freebox to the TV... can it do the conversion?
Thank you
Do you know if this type of device does not cause too much loss?
If I use a basic PAL/SECAM VCR to connect the Freebox to the TV... can it do the conversion?
Thank you
SECAM to PAL video converters
Do you know if this type of box does not incur too much loss?
There are low-end, inexpensive ones, but of mediocre quality, and better ones, but their price is higher. Check out the different versions on this site:
http://www.priceminister.com/navigation/se/category/sa/kw/transcodeur+pal+secam
A basic PAL/SECAM VCR accepts both standards but does not perform the conversion...
Why do you want to buy a SECAM to PAL converter?
Because the output from boxes is generally via SCART
On a SCART, the RGB signal is of much better quality than the composite SECAM signal. Does your PAL G LCD TV have a SCART input?
If yes, the problem is solved; you just need a SCART to SCART cable.
If it doesn't, it's better to look for an RGB to PAL converter to connect to the SCART output of a box, and then go to this TV in PAL, it will be of better quality.
Do you know if this type of box does not incur too much loss?
There are low-end, inexpensive ones, but of mediocre quality, and better ones, but their price is higher. Check out the different versions on this site:
http://www.priceminister.com/navigation/se/category/sa/kw/transcodeur+pal+secam
A basic PAL/SECAM VCR accepts both standards but does not perform the conversion...
Why do you want to buy a SECAM to PAL converter?
Because the output from boxes is generally via SCART
On a SCART, the RGB signal is of much better quality than the composite SECAM signal. Does your PAL G LCD TV have a SCART input?
If yes, the problem is solved; you just need a SCART to SCART cable.
If it doesn't, it's better to look for an RGB to PAL converter to connect to the SCART output of a box, and then go to this TV in PAL, it will be of better quality.
long live French isolationism, which led to the choice of the Secam L broadcast standard, even though no other country chose it...
For DTT, it's different:
With the DVB-T standard, digital images and sounds are encoded according to the MPEG-2 standard for standard quality DTT or in MPEG-4 AVC for High Definition DTT
In January 2006, more than 60 countries had already opted for the DVB-T (Digital Video Broadcasting-Terrestrial) standard.
For the status of DTT installations, you can read:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Num%C3%A9rique_Terrestre
If your Secam G LCD TV in Singapore has standardized video and audio inputs, as I mentioned in message 14, you will be able to use it in France with a box or a DTT decoder.
For DTT, it's different:
With the DVB-T standard, digital images and sounds are encoded according to the MPEG-2 standard for standard quality DTT or in MPEG-4 AVC for High Definition DTT
In January 2006, more than 60 countries had already opted for the DVB-T (Digital Video Broadcasting-Terrestrial) standard.
For the status of DTT installations, you can read:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Num%C3%A9rique_Terrestre
If your Secam G LCD TV in Singapore has standardized video and audio inputs, as I mentioned in message 14, you will be able to use it in France with a box or a DTT decoder.