Very Slow SSD Drive

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vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassadeur -  
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Hello,

the SSD is new, and it is very slow

to perform a search in the registry = 40 mins

with the command prompt

- I performed a chkdsk /f/r

- when I run the TRIM command, it shows the value 0 => but (Disabled) ???

I continue my investigations

- I find that AHCI mode should be enabled - I have EHCI mode which I set to enabled (allowed)

Thank you for your future help

See you


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  1. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassadeur 3 591
     

    - the latest BIOS for my Gigabyte B75M-D3H is from the end of 2013 (a possible cause) => version F15 the latest available

    - as for Crystal Disk Info, everything is blue

    "How to increase the speed of an SSD?"

    Tips to optimize your SSD on Windows 10

    1. Check the activation of AHCI. ...
    2. Leave free space. ...
    3. You should not defragment an SSD. ...
    4. Disable Hibernate. ...
    5. Disable disk indexing. ...
    6. Disable SuperFetch. ...
    7. Adjust the page file."

    - I haven't indexed anything

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  2. steph810 Posted messages 1865 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   152
     

    Hello,

    as an alternative you have Victoria and portable no installation take the x64

    https://ccm.net/downloads/security-and-maintenance/9981-victoria-hdd-ssd/

    you can do a speed test of the SSD with the test & repair Quick scan tab.

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    1. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   3 591
       

      It's a 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD

      I did two tests, here are the screenshots

      - Victoria Quick Scan

      - Victoria Full Scan

      - Victoria surface

      There is a lot of light gray

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      1. steph810 Posted messages 1865 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   152 > vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
         

        Light gray are the sectors with a good fast reading, dark gray are the slow ones :(

        Restart scan and check the remap box.

        This is repair without deletion.

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      2. steph810 Posted messages 1865 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   152 > vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
         

        try the repair and yes check or change the SATA cable:

        Light gray everything is OK

        dark gray power is slow

        the repair can be very long, you have to be patient

        If it's new, request a standard exchange if under warranty

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  3. fabul Posted messages 42139 Registration date   Status Moderator Last intervention   6 063
     

    Did the problem occur before or after you created the partitions D, E, and H on this SSD?

    I would reinstall Windows by deleting all partitions and creating a single one for C:

    (System partitions are created automatically, that's correct)

    PS: It may seem like a silly solution, but I've seen SSDs perform faster after a second installation of Windows than after the first one, strange but...

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    1. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   3 591
       

      The problem has been there from the beginning

      The partitions were created during the disk copy

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  4. steph810 Posted messages 1865 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   152
     

    What is your power profile?

    Terminal and:

     powercfg /L

    You can change it with:

     powercfg /query mustmatchuuidofprofileexample8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c

    Driver:

     Get-CimInstance -ClassName Win32_IDEController -Property *

    I have the same trim.

    Forget the AHCI Terminal admin and:

     bcdedit /set {current} safeboot minimal

    Activate ahci in the bios and once in the session, back to the admin terminal and:

     bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot

    What model is the SSD???

    ***----->>> looks like my model but older in 500Go

    You have a 3D TLC NAND chip; if you partition it, be aware that an SSD like this needs a lot of empty blocks to operate at its full capacity.

    It needs to be erased before formatting.

    Article on the subject here, several pages...:

    https://be.hardware.info/artikel/9973/hoe-werkt-een-ssd

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    1. brucine Posted messages 24849 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   4 170
       

      Hello,

      The number of keys being searched in the registry is considerable (around 1.5 million, I personally have about 900,000, not much better).

      The enumeration is quick (I get the one I mention in a few seconds on an old PC) but the number of keys and their complex hierarchy makes any search very lengthy.

      I’m not sure if the disk access time is relevant, as the Windows registry is located in a single place at C:\Windows\System32\Config.

      I’m willing to accept that processor performance could decrease search time, but I don’t really see how we can blame disk slowness in this type of search.

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      1. flo88 Posted messages 28486 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 168 > brucine Posted messages 24849 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
         

        I agree, especially since searching the registry tends to panic the antivirus, which ends up slowing everything down...

        To monitor the exact performance of the SSD, it's better to run a test with CrystalDiskMark.

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  5. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassadeur 3 591
     

    to steph810

    I ran the command "bcdedit /set {current} safeboot minimal"

    and I still end up starting/restarting in safe mode

    ==>> no longer able to use searches; can't run CMD; no more network ......

    thankfully msconfig worked

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    1. steph810 Posted messages 1865 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   152
       

      Yes, execute this command switched to AHCI in the BIOS and run the following to remove it.

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      1. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   3 591 > steph810 Posted messages 1865 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
         

        sic " do not run CMD anymore "

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        one must be able to use the command prompt

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        so why is it there???

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  6. flo88 Posted messages 28486 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   Ambassadeur 5 168
     

    Alright. We should try to rethink your problem from scratch.

    First, I'll make my observations and questions:

    The crystadikinfo capture you posted in "2" shows that TRIM is active (everything in the functionality line is active for the drive), TRIM and SMART only work in AHCI, so that's settled you are in AHCI in the BIOS, (I specify that no command line can switch a function in the BIOS)

    For the speeds, I would like to have a capture of a test result with CrystalDiskMark.

    If the speeds are indeed low, the problem is hardware-related; never a software bottleneck could impact performance to the point of being measurable in use. So:

    Have you tried changing the SATA cable? Some are poor quality, and have you changed the SATA port on the motherboard?

    Edit: Your motherboard is very old...only one of the six SATA ports supports SATA 3, the others do not....the SSD must be connected to that one SATA port, check the motherboard manual.

    Moreover, you have a 3rd generation processor...don't expect miracles when doing scans or searches, there is also a hardware limitation here.


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    1. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   3 591
       

      Hi flo88

      Last night, my son stopped by

      -

      He resized the SSD partitions for me, and the additional 500 MB partition that had been added (two system partitions on the SSD)

      Partition (C:) at 149 GB

      -

      He immediately understood the partition formats (MBR; GPT; and other issues...) => and the copy he made worked on the first try (he left me on the spot for that)

      He fixed everything, and also adjusted the BIOS

      -

      The only thing I understood very well => change your 2012 config => it will go significantly faster, otherwise I'm stuck with my 190/200 MB/s

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      = > I'll make do with that, given my current usage ( I'm no longer pressed for 10 seconds now )

      The Disk 0 is the SSD, and the Disk 2 is the HDD [to sort the files in (D:) and (E:)]

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      And I will do a good backup after completing a full MRT

      With the 1 TB external drive as well, I think it's going to take a good day

      -

      Thanks

      @+

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    2. steph810 Posted messages 1865 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention   152
       

      make sure it is indeed SATA III

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    3. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   3 591 > steph810 Posted messages 1865 Registration date   Status Member Last intervention  
       

      he's there, he's connected to the SATA port O

      see the screenshot I uploaded

      also an obsolete question, he often works on himself

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    4. flo88 Posted messages 28486 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   5 168 > vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
       

      The order of disks in the Windows manager does not reflect the physical order of the connections on the motherboard. If you only have one disk installed, it will always be disk zero, regardless of the SATA port used on the motherboard.

      The only way to know if it is on the correct port is in the BIOS, or better yet, to physically check on the motherboard.

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    5. vieu bison boiteu Posted messages 44334 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   3 591 > flo88 Posted messages 28486 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
       

      Right now I'm running an antivirus scan, and I have three drives connected (look four posts up, post <16>) plus a 500 GB USB drive

      my SSD, which is now my system drive, is connected to my SATA 0 of 6 GB/s => and it is indeed Disk 0

      Note: I've taken another screenshot

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