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Hello, I’d like to know which RAM is compatible with my PC please, because I’ve done some research but I’m not sure about their compatibility.

My PC: HP Pavilion Gaming TG01-1039nf

Ryzen 5 4600g

8GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM

Rx 5500

Motherboard: Erica 3 (not sure)

512GB SSD storage

Windows 11

Here is the link to my PC on Cdiscount (it runs Windows 11, not Windows 10)

https://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/achat-pc-ordinateur/pc-gamer-hp-pavilion-gaming-tg01-1039nf-ryzen-5/f-10708-hptg011039nf.html#cm_rr=PL:10402302:NH:CAR

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

Hello,

hp info for cm :

Memory upgrade information

  • Dual-channel memory architecture (one DIMM module per channel)

  • Two DDR4 UDIMM sockets (288 pins)

  • Supports up to PC4-25600 (DDR4-3200)

  • Supports DDR4 4 GB and 8 GB UDIMM modules

  • Supports up to 4 GB on 32-bit systems

    Note:

    32-bit systems cannot address a full 4.0 GB memory.

  • Supports up to 32 GB (unbuffered) with two 16 GB DIMMs on 64-bit systems

    Note:

    The maximum memory stated reflects hardware capacity and may be further limited by the operating system.

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Are you planning to replace the original RAM or look into adding more?

Since I'm not sure what their original RAM is, use CPU-Z to find out:

https://www.commentcamarche.net/telecharger/utilitaires/6615-cpu-z/

The SPD tab will show you the slots (free or occupied) and the RAM module reference that would be on them.

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Answer 2 / 17
Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Hello, thank you for your quick reply.

Currently I have 1 RAM stick which is the Samsung M378A1G44AB0-CWE 8GB DDR4 3200MHz PC4-25600 1.2V 1Rx16 288-Pin UDIMM Desktop RAM Memory Module and I would like to replace it with 2 new ones, but I don’t know which model to choose and I’m not sure what I’m seeing since I’m not knowledgeable about this.
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Answer 3 / 17
gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

So these characteristics (max)

DDR4 3200MHz PC4-25600 1.2V non ecc (no buffer) UDIMM (it's the "size" for desktop and not So-DIMM which is for laptops)

Brand doesn't matter as long as you take a pair, but we still avoid no-name discount.

32 GB max, which means, if you have two slots in total that makes max 16 GB per slot.(2 x 16)

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So 2 x 16 GB (one pair) OR if 2 x 8 you can try to find the same stick as the one already in place for good compatibility between them. (you have the ref)

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

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Answer 5 / 17
Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 
Hello, after multiple searches I found this:

https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-Vengeance-PC4-25600-optimis%C3%A9-Ryzen/dp/B08D6LKYR5/ref=sr_1_38?adgrpid=1355698774648167&hvadid=84731637678497&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=116311&hvlocphy=127123&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-84731702831071%3Aloc-66&hydadcr=7972_2270785&keywords=ddr4%2Bpc4%2B25600&qid=1676475436&sr=8-38&th=1

The issue is that I would like to add it with the one I already have, but this one is 1.35 volts and the one I have is 1.2 volts. Will that be a problem?

Thanks for your help.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

Oh no, different voltage will probably go badly.

Worst case, if that's the model you want, take 2 x 8 at 50 euros:

https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-M%C3%A9moire-Performance/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2ZYL4HA9OPKNA&keywords=ddr4%2Bcorsair%2Bvengeance%2Blpx%2Bnoir%2B-%2B16%2Bgo%2B2%2Bx%2B8%2Bgo%2B3200%2Bmhz&qid=1676484272&sprefix=Corsair%2BVengeance%2BLPX%2B8%2BGo%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-1&th=1

(and try to resell your 8 GB original)

or

another model as a complement

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Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Good evening, thank you for your quick response.

Honestly, thank you very much for helping me because I don't know much about it. Are you sure they will be compatible with my PC? Because I will buy them tomorrow hoping to receive them quickly.

Thank you and have a good evening.
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Answer 7 / 17
gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

Are you sure they will be compatible on my PC?

Looking more closely, in the end I have doubts about the voltage.

I would say the motherboard should be, but not this info from HP and not much on upgrade sites for your exact model.

And conflicting information like HP says max 32 and sites say 64 (for your model and nearby models), it’s not as easy as a prebuilt PC for the info.

I'm looking ...

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

Can you provide the CL info of your original barrette?

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Answer 9 / 17
Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Hello and sorry for the late reply.

The CL of my original RAM module is 22.0 clocks.

Thank you.
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Answer 10 / 17
gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

The CL is a performance index.

Turnaround ... I would tell you to take this one to come back to an addition:

https://www.amazon.fr/Crucial-CT8G4DFRA32A-DDR4-M%C3%A9moire-bureau/dp/B08C4VHQV2/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=ddr4%2B3200&qid=1676539023&sr=8-10&th=1

(vendor link with other possible choices, to sort to stay on 3200 > https://www.crucial.fr/compatible-upgrade-for/hp---compaq/pavilion-gaming-tg01-0039ns )

Same CL, voltage, frequency we have more chance of good compatibility.

(of the Crucial which is in fact Micron often as original stock in PC manufacturers. Given the prices, we could almost look at 16 GB at 3200, if OK, well in dual with the original one it's perfect, but not sure and at worst alone you'll still have 16. Or 2x8 or ... depending on budget, future idea to increase further ... )

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( Yes my hesitations are due to the fact that it's a manufacturer PC and not a full PC motherboard. I don't know if your motherboard would adapt the voltage well or if its UEFI provides this possibility ...)

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Answer 11 / 17
Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Hello and thank you to you.

So if I take the crucial 16gb RAM and add it with my Samsung, is that good? It will give me 24gb RAM. I'm planning to buy it today.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

Very likely they are indeed compatible.

If you put a 16 as you think, you’ll have the other one you could put a 16 later if you take that idea.

(whereas 2 x 8 would be two 16-resales if you want to upgrade later...)

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If 16 goes plus the original 8 go.

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Note that usually you put a pair to be sure.

Two identical sticks operate in "dual", basically hand in hand as if it were a single one. This is visible in theUEFI if it indicates dual.

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Here with two different ones it might be in "single", dual isn't guaranteed.

They will be okay together, but if single it means they each work on their own, asked one and the other as needed.

If I didn’t tell you, you’d be happy to have 24, but better to know everything.

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Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1 > gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention  
 

Hello, thank you very much for clarifying that for me.

So the best is to take 16gb or to take 8x2? because yes I plan to upgrade later, so might as well take 16gb I think, but if it’s single they will have the same performance as in dual? Otherwise might as well take 8x2 ????

Thank you to you.

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701 > Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member
 

In any case, if you plan to go to the max (32) later as I understand, then yes you should get one 16 GB.

(later you’ll only have to buy a 16 again, simple logic since you only have two slots)

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If it’s single, will they have the same performance as in dual?

No, in dual it’s more performant.

After that it’s not exactly night and day either.

You’ll see, if the two together work well, you leave them. (or the 16 GB alone at worst)

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Answer 12 / 17
Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Hello, I received my RAM and I installed it with the other one, but when turning on the PC and going to the Task Manager only 8GB is detected and not the 16GB. What should I do? Please
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Answer 13 / 17
gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

Do you know how to go into the UEFI? If yes, go check if the 24 are properly recognized.

That way we’ll know if it’s hardware or Windows.

You can also test the 16 GB by itself to see.

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Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Hello, thank you for your response. Luckily in the afternoon I left the RAM stick in my PC and I went about my business. When I returned in the late afternoon I turned on my PC and boom, as if by magic my PC finally decided to recognize my RAM with the original 8GB. But how do I know if it is single or dual? If it's single, will the 24GB still be more performant than my 8GB baseline? I haven't had much time yet to test with software/games.

Again, thank you very much for your help.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 
Reading > https://www.dz-techs.com/fr/check-if-ram-is-dual-channel-windows-mac

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Look in the Memory tab of CPU-Z that you already have, check if Channel shows dual.

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Even I have a PC with 4 GB and 8 GB, but I had found same brand, frequency, CL ... just with 8 instead of 4 for adding. They were telling me that dual was impossible, but it seems they are indeed in dual.

After that, of course when you put a pair you don't ask yourself this question of whether ...

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Like riding in a couple on a bike:

> each with their own bike (two different sticks) it follows with a distance between the two which varies more or less, see not so well synchronized, one beside the other, starting and finishing together.

> same but on a tandem (one pair) this is sure it follows well and synchronizes efforts.

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from single the 24gb will still be more performant than my 8gb baseline?

Yes given the quantity and they go together.

( they wouldn't be well compatible, it wouldn't work at all or would glitch, would be noticeable )

You would only have had 2 GB original, I would have told you not to bother and keep only the 16, but now ...

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The more I look at it, the more complex it is and not as simple as what is always said about this "dual". ;-)

To wonder if this vulgarization of the term "dual" is well employed.

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In the end, your 16 GB are ultimately compatible with your 8 GB, so that's perfect.

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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

And you're welcome! ;-)

(remember to mark it resolved when everything is okay for you.)

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Answer 15 / 17
Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Hello, thank you for your reply.

In Memory on CPU-Z it shows 2x64-bit. There is no mention of dual or single, therefore in SPD it is marked as follows for each stick:

-Crucial in rank it is marked dual

-Samsung it is consequently marked single.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

it would seem that it is indicated as such now (maybe related to the AMD processor brand), so 2x64-bit = dual.

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rank is different, it's the technical design/management characteristic of the chips on the module

https://www.crucial.fr/support/articles-faq-memory/what-is-a-memory-rank

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Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Hello, thank you very much for your help. But I have another question: is my current PC with its 24GB of RAM capable of playing the latest games nowadays? Like Cyberpunk 2077 or Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 at fairly good quality (high)? I haven't had much time yet to test it with demanding games; I bought it recently.

Thanks again, and I’ll mark it as resolved.
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

That’s not only about RAM, but the whole: RAM, graphics card, processor, display, etc.

To put it into context:

A note/test not to take as gospel but for rough idea.

Your GPU > https://www.lesnumeriques.com/carte-graphique/amd-radeon-rx-5500-xt-p55117/test.html

Your processor > https://technical.city/fr/cpu/Ryzen-5-4600G

A web search for "Cyberpunk 2077 recommended configuration" for your game:

https://support.cdprojektred.com/fr/cyberpunk/pc/sp-technical/issue/1556/configuration-requise-pour-cyberpunk-2077

I'll let you cross-check the information and understand.

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Nekroz_690 Posted messages 31 Status Member 1
 

Hello, thank you for your reply.

Screen? So that means if I have a 60Hz screen from 2013 I would have less "performance" than a gaming 240Hz screen at 600€?
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gugu01 Posted messages 15669 Registration date   Status Contributor Last intervention   4 701
 

I’m not confident enough in my knowledge of CPUs and GPUs for gaming.

I can’t tell you the maximum quality your PC can produce, but let’s be logical: the screen is important too, it has to be able to display what the PC can output.

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Not enough information about what’s available, but I can still unfortunately dispel a few illusions you might have, because your PC is light for gaming.

You won’t be able to run the maximum quality on more or less demanding games.

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