How to achieve 10Gb/s with Freebox Delta?

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   -

Hello, I need help; this has been bothering me since I got my Freebox Delta. Free promises a connection of up to 10Gb/s. I am connected from my computer with an Ethernet cable to a TP-Link Wi-Fi repeater right next to my computer because the Freebox server is way too far from me; it is completely on the opposite side of the house. I am upstairs in the south, and the server is on the ground floor in the north, and my house is quite large. So my problem is that I don't even exceed 5Mb/s when doing a speed test. I know I will never get the promised 10Gb/s, but at least I want to reach 1Gb/s minimum. I would even be willing to run a cable from the Freebox server to my computer; I don't mind that. I just need help finding everything I need to achieve at least 1Gb/s, and even better if possible. It has been bothering me for almost 2 months.

I also have another problem. I have seen that we can "boost" the connection by enabling the 4G option from the server, but I don’t have the little checkbox to activate or deactivate it. Does this mean I can't activate it?

Thank you, I would like to have a response as I have never found out how to do this...

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422
 

Hello,

you probably didn't read everything on Free ...

First of all, 10 Gbit/s is no, I believe that the best connections are around 6 for download and about 700 Mbit/s for upload.

Those who manage to achieve this, of course, have 10G cards on their PCs, and with SFP+ as a bonus.

Anyway, only the SFP+ port on the Delta allows for that.

Most do this with a 2m DAC cable, which works well, but it only goes 2m; to go further, it's possible with cat6a or cat7 cable, a 10GbaseT SFP+ on the box side and a 10GbaseT port on the PC side (a small investment to consider).

Otherwise, you'll need optical fiber at your place (dual if it's multimode with SR lasers) or single-mode single-fiber with duplex lasers.

If a simple gigabit is enough for you,

you have this solution which is quite easy to implement.

But it's for sure that with Wi-Fi or through powerline adapters, you can forget it right away, although a good mesh Wi-Fi in AX today can approach gigabit speeds if everything goes well.


and ... There you go!
But goodness, those line breaks are so annoying!!

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ardaz
 

Thank you for your reply!

First of all, I figured that 10Gb/s is pretty much impossible; that's why I said "they promised," assuming it's something they claim when it's not, but that's not the point, I was well aware of that.

Now, if I need to buy a 10G network card for the PC and a special cable, that's no problem, I just need the product references and how to do it. In my opinion, it shouldn't be harder than installing the network card on the motherboard of the PC and connecting the server to the PC; at least that's what I think, I might be completely wrong!

Then your sentence "Otherwise, an optical fiber at home (double if it's multimode with SR lasers) or singlemode single-fiber and duplex lasers" I didn't understand anything; I'm not really knowledgeable about all this :(

All I would like is something simple to install so that I can make the most of my connection, with references, and not to forget that I’m quite far from the server. I'm not asking to connect other devices with the server port, just my PC.

Thanks! :)

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422
 

Let's simplify:

How far do you want 10 Gbit/s and with what budget?

It will be 6 at best, that's a constant for now.

On fiber, we can have 10 Gbit/s or even more, 25, 40, 100, let's be crazy, but at Free's rates multiplied by 100 or 1000, at some point, we change scale.

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422
 

For the 10 Gbit/s port, they are not lying, you really have 10 Gbit/s between the server and the PC in both directions, if you equip it with a 10 Gbit/s card, for transfers to hard drives for example, although at this speed, both PC and server hard drives struggle to keep up.

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ardaz
 

Listen, I would like to have very good performance, as best as I can do. I suppose the way, as you explained, to get the best performance is to connect the PC to the server. So, what do I need to keep it simple and achieve very good performance on my PC?

Let's say my budget won't exceed €250; if it can be less than that, even better, and for a distance that I estimate to be 40/50m.

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H0enheim Posted messages 1458 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   467
 

Hello.
Oh dear, how to say this,,,, where to start ....
I'm going to send you a YouTube video of a guy who tested Free's 10Gb and explains it well; it will save me from writing you a novel ^^

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422
 

As I mentioned earlier, for not too much money, you have this kit that allows you gigabit speed.

If you need a few more meters, you can add a longer cable at the end to replace or extend their cables using a small coupler.

You should also be able to connect 2 kits end to end.

After that, if you want to do more work, cat6a cable, an sfp+ 10GbaseT on the box side, but it gets hot.

a bit of reading

A 10GbaseT card for PC

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422 > ardaz
 

The 4G overflow from the server is only used when you have lousy ADSL, and even then not for TV, never in VDSL or fiber, that’s normal, it doesn’t bring anything.

For the izilink kit,

if you take the time to read a bit on the page at all the cables, there are all the assembly instructions as well as a video presenting the idea if you have 2 hands with 5 fingers each and a brain in working order, it should do the trick, you might need to invest in a tube of quick-dry glue, but that’s also indicated on the page.

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H0enheim Posted messages 1458 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   467 > brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

He is torn between his desire to have at least 1gbps and the possibility of getting more with the 10Gb/s card.
Even though you explained it well to him with links and everything ...

I think we should leave it at that!!!

He has 2 choices;
- Either the kit (and he'll have 1Gb/s) which is the simplest
- Or the other option (+) but it will require additional equipment and it will cost much more.
It's up to him to take the plunge now.

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422 > ardaz
 

Buy cat6a cable, the length you need, to mount/fix/conceal it.

2 wall RJ45 sockets, 2 RJ45 cords, one for each end.

1 SFP+ 10GbaseT on the box side.

1 10GbaseT card on the PC side.

That should be enough.

After, you can also do it in fiber:

1 10G card with SFP+ on the PC side.

2 SFP+ fiber 10G SR LC, one on the PC side and one on the box side.

a 50m LC/LC duplex patch cord.

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422
 

If you don't know much about it (I hope you know a lot more since the beginning of this discussion).

Everything exists, but the effort has to come from you; it's not up to us to substitute for your chronic weakness.

At least, not for free.


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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422 > ardaz
 

You have all the elements, it's up to you to get your fingers moving and especially to make a choice.

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ardaz > brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

Everything is in place to agree on it, but how do we go about setting it up?

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Pap > brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 

Hello, I saw that apparently the delta does not provide enough power to add a 1 SFP+ 10GbaseT and that you have to go through a direct attach cable + SFP network card in the PC.

Do you have more information on this subject?

Thank you

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422 > Pap
 

I don't think so, however, the current SFP+ 10GbaseT do consume more and generate more heat, but it's around 2.5W for 80m, and 2.3W for 30m it seems, whereas this one would do 1.8W at 100m it’s sure that when there are about twenty in a switch, it's quite a bit of watts to dissipate, but just one, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

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brupala Posted messages 111947 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   14 422 > Pap
 

Indeed,

you are right, I found this excellent article that talks about it, I hope it is accessible to non-subscribers.

After that, it may have evolved since then, as apparently the fbx pro allows SFP+ 10GBaseT.

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