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MSI Z97 PC Mate compatible with which graphics card or 2 graphics cards?

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Hello
I have an MSI Z97 PC Mate motherboard (MS-7850)
My computer has been experiencing slowdowns for a while now when I play Warzone.
CPU: Intel Core i5 4690K
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 970
RAM: 16GB
Screen: 60Hz
So my question is whether I should change the graphics card and if so, which one can I choose?
My other question is whether I can install two graphics cards? If so, can I use the same one I already have? Is it useful? Or should I get a different one?
Thank you for your answers.
Ben.

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epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   Ambassadeur 4 270
 
Here’s what I propose:

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X processor 3.7 GHz €290.65:

https://www.amazon.fr/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-RyzenTM/dp/B08166SLDF/ref=sr_1_1?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=Processeurs&qid=1633270033&s=computers&sr=1-1&ts_id=430352031

ASUS TUF GAMING B550 PLUS motherboard €119.90:

https://www.amazon.fr/ASUS-TUF-GAMING-B550-Type/dp/B089HG351D/ref=pd_sbs_3/259-0173968-3416943?pd_rd_w=K6bE4&pf_rd_p=a8b99513-9ed9-4379-9ce7-04130b9ba223&pf_rd_r=T3TC58FKS47QM8H63WGM&pd_rd_r=76ddfb22-315a-4b94-bd55-9ca88de3d447&pd_rd_wg=i0S0n&pd_rd_i=B089HG351D&psc=1

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 XMP 2.0 RAM €74.99:

https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-M%C3%A9moire-Performance/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=pd_sbs_2/259-0173968-3416943?pd_rd_w=K6bE4&pf_rd_p=a8b99513-9ed9-4379-9ce7-04130b9ba223&pf_rd_r=T3TC58FKS47QM8H63WGM&pd_rd_r=76ddfb22-315a-4b94-bd55-9ca88de3d447&pd_rd_wg=i0S0n&pd_rd_i=B0143UM4TC&psc=1

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO V2 cooler €36.99:

https://www.amazon.fr/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Ventilateur-processeur/dp/B08KXXHJZN/ref=sr_1_29?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=Refroidissement+et+ventilateurs&qid=1633270738&refinements=p_89%3ABe+quiet%21%7CCooler+Master&rnid=1680780031&s=computers&sr=1-29&ts_id=430353031

Total: €522.53

if I am not mistaken in the addition.

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Kami
 
Wow, not bad at all! I didn't think I could level up like this for 500€, otherwise I would have done it already!!
Thank you very much, now all I have to do is order and put it all together!
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epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   4 270 > Kami
 
If you still have a bit of budget left, you could add a 250 or 500GB NVMe M.2 SSD.
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flo88 Posted messages 28659 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   5 158 > epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
+1 for everything
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nemotis Posted messages 27 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   2
 
Great job on your part. Thank you
I have a somewhat similar problem but with an MSI H97 PC Mate motherboard and:
-- an Intel i5 processor,
---a Nvidia Geforce GTX 960 GPU
-- RAM: 16 GB
-- 500 GB SSD
I would like to gradually upgrade my PC while keeping my motherboard, and first know which GPU I can install to increase performance.
Then I can try to find an i7 with socket 1150, and increase the RAM (32 GB?)
Thank you for your opinions, everyone.
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epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   4 270 > nemotis Posted messages 27 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention  
 
Changing the GPU isn't the best time due to the drastic shortage of these components. The slightest GPU will cost you a fortune. As for having 32GB of RAM, it won't bring anything. Unless you're doing image processing, for example.
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epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   Ambassadeur 4 270
 
This one for example is 500GB:

https://www.amazon.fr/Samsung-MZ-V8V500BW-Contr%C3%B4le-thermique-intelligent/dp/B08THW4S3T/ref=sr_1_2?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=SSD+internes&qid=1633437977&refinements=p_89%3ASamsung%2Cp_36%3A428407031%7C428408031%7C428409031%2Cp_n_feature_twenty-six_browse-bin%3A14088484031&rnid=428393031&s=computers&sr=1-2&ts_id=430354031

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Kami
 
I take good note of all your great advice!!
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epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   Ambassadeur 4 270
 
In principle, you can use any current GPU: nVIDIA GTX16xx, even RTX 2060 or 3060 or AMD RX6600XT; 6700XT. The problem is that there is currently a drastic shortage of GPUs. If you find one, it might cost a lot.

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Kami
 
Alright, thank you for this response. Is it useful given my configuration? Will it bring me anything or not?
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epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   Ambassadeur 4 270
 
In terms of gaming performance, a newer GPU can have a noticeable impact, even with an aging CPU like yours. It's up to you, as the PC user, to decide, given your finances, whether or not you can upgrade.

PS: It's possible to use 2 GPUs in the same PC, but it doesn't have much value.

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Kami
 
Sure, thank you.
Which graphics card do you recommend? I have a budget of around €500, but I'm not looking for the most powerful one if the rest of my computer will bottleneck it.
Thanks for the advice.
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epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   4 270 > Kami
 
The problem is that even with such a budget, I can't find anything good. Maybe this one that's €550:

https://www.amazon.fr/ASUS-DUAL-RTX2060-O6G-EVO-GF/dp/B07V1Y6Y2J/ref=sr_1_43?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=Cartes+graphiques&qid=1632920041&s=computers&sr=1-43&ts_id=430340031.
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Kami
 
And if I tell you that with a budget of less than €1000, it's possible to get a really effective graphics card compared to my setup?
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Lolo
 
Hello
The 2060 GTX Evo for €550 and a 750W power supply if you don't already have one.
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Lolo
 
A GTX 2060 if you find one and a 750W power supply if you don't already have one.

!! Error in my previous response because the RTX 2060 is limited to a power consumption of 65W.
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flo88 Posted messages 28659 Registration date   Status Contributeur Last intervention   Ambassadeur 5 158
 
Hi
Honestly, it's not the right time to spend money on a graphics card; your GTX 970 is still not too bad, and getting a newer card will be bottlenecked by your processor.
It's better to save your budget for a significant upgrade later, because for €500 you can already get a much more powerful motherboard/CPU/RAM combo than what you have while keeping the 970.
Personally, I would upgrade that first, as prices haven't skyrocketed in that area, and for the graphics card, it is urgent to wait.

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Kami
 
Thank you for the advice. The bottleneck of the new graphics card was indeed my concern.
May I abuse and ask for your advice on choosing the motherboard/CPU/RAM?
Thank you
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epango Posted messages 37195 Registration date   Status Membre Last intervention   Ambassadeur 4 270
 
What maximum budget do you want to allocate for an upgrade of the CM, CPU, and RAM?

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Kami
 
I think I will set between 500 and 750, I would say, knowing that I'm not really concerned about being 50€ off... even more if it really makes a difference, but I want to avoid going over 1000€.
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Kami
 
I need to buy a bigger SSD; mine is just a small 125GB one... Thanks for your advice.
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