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Hello,
Having a weak connection, watching any video or movie by my children makes the online gaming experience impossible. Is it possible to prioritize the bandwidth to my computer? Or to set video loading to low priority?
I have already found a similar topic ("How to be prioritized on a network [Resolved/Closed]") but the solution from the command prompt doesn't work for me.
If you have any solution, I am interested.
Thank you very much.
Having a weak connection, watching any video or movie by my children makes the online gaming experience impossible. Is it possible to prioritize the bandwidth to my computer? Or to set video loading to low priority?
I have already found a similar topic ("How to be prioritized on a network [Resolved/Closed]") but the solution from the command prompt doesn't work for me.
If you have any solution, I am interested.
Thank you very much.
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Hi,
In principle, yes, that could be possible... but not with a standard operator's box. You need more professional (and (much) more expensive) equipment for that.
In this case, with your operator's box, it could be quite difficult to manage.
That said, in general, boxes prioritize wired connections over wireless ones and give priority to TV streams from TV decoders.
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In principle, yes, that could be possible... but not with a standard operator's box. You need more professional (and (much) more expensive) equipment for that.
In this case, with your operator's box, it could be quite difficult to manage.
That said, in general, boxes prioritize wired connections over wireless ones and give priority to TV streams from TV decoders.
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~ To know how to listen is to possess, besides one's own, the brain of others... said Leonardo da Vinci.
~ “The art of writing is above all to make oneself understood” — Eugène Delacroix.
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Good evening,
If your connection doesn't have enough bandwidth, there won't be any miracle...
Here are two suggestions:
1° tell the kids to watch the videos in standard definition and not in HD
2° connect to the BOX via a wired RJ45 connection directly from the back of the BOX to your PC
Since you haven't provided any information about the installation, equipment, and BOX, it's difficult...
If your connection doesn't have enough bandwidth, there won't be any miracle...
Here are two suggestions:
1° tell the kids to watch the videos in standard definition and not in HD
2° connect to the BOX via a wired RJ45 connection directly from the back of the BOX to your PC
Since you haven't provided any information about the installation, equipment, and BOX, it's difficult...
Thank you for your responses:
- I have already connected my PC via Ethernet to try to get a better speed, but the distribution of the bandwidth still seems to prioritize video streaming, even though it's on Wi-Fi.
- Yes, with the lower quality of the videos it does work better, but I still experience a response time of 200/300 ms which is quite unpleasant.
- Despite the low speed, I assumed that by prioritizing my PC, I could achieve a reasonable response time (without buffering, I have a stable 40ms), by slightly throttling the other connection speeds.
- Indeed, I forgot to mention the specifications. I have a Freebox Crystal on ADSL with the decoder. The TV doesn't seem to impact my connection. I am using an RJ45 wired connection for my PC.
- I have already connected my PC via Ethernet to try to get a better speed, but the distribution of the bandwidth still seems to prioritize video streaming, even though it's on Wi-Fi.
- Yes, with the lower quality of the videos it does work better, but I still experience a response time of 200/300 ms which is quite unpleasant.
- Despite the low speed, I assumed that by prioritizing my PC, I could achieve a reasonable response time (without buffering, I have a stable 40ms), by slightly throttling the other connection speeds.
- Indeed, I forgot to mention the specifications. I have a Freebox Crystal on ADSL with the decoder. The TV doesn't seem to impact my connection. I am using an RJ45 wired connection for my PC.
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You would have said it from the beginning, I wouldn't have brought it up..
When you have TV over the internet, it is served first... and the internet users in the whole house share what remains of the bandwidth... So receive TV through the antenna or satellite dish and that will be a gain... (sorry)
-- To discuss technical matters, you need technical data, it's not philosophy. PCs can have different computing powers.. (Processor)... We ignore the measured bandwidth that arrives at your place, adding that Free is very variable... So test on https://www.speedtest.net/ and give the link to the result here... (Symbol the link of a chain next to Share)
-- It is clear that your bandwidth is not sufficient for the use you make of it, so you have to share with what you have... and simple video bandwidth is part of it.
-- The bandwidth of others always seems better...! It is true that when watching a streaming video, it's like a jet of water, the flow is continuous and comes from the same source; it’s quite different from a game which is rather a choppy flow, which is replayed several times and depends on the availability of the game server... added to various response times.
In my humble opinion, compromises will need to be made..
When you have TV over the internet, it is served first... and the internet users in the whole house share what remains of the bandwidth... So receive TV through the antenna or satellite dish and that will be a gain... (sorry)
-- To discuss technical matters, you need technical data, it's not philosophy. PCs can have different computing powers.. (Processor)... We ignore the measured bandwidth that arrives at your place, adding that Free is very variable... So test on https://www.speedtest.net/ and give the link to the result here... (Symbol the link of a chain next to Share)
-- It is clear that your bandwidth is not sufficient for the use you make of it, so you have to share with what you have... and simple video bandwidth is part of it.
-- The bandwidth of others always seems better...! It is true that when watching a streaming video, it's like a jet of water, the flow is continuous and comes from the same source; it’s quite different from a game which is rather a choppy flow, which is replayed several times and depends on the availability of the game server... added to various response times.
In my humble opinion, compromises will need to be made..
- Okay for the satellite TV, noted.
- I am at 7.43 Mbps download: https://www.speedtest.net/result/9424046728.png
- Okay, I wanted to know if I could program the streaming flow, but apart from using professional equipment, it seems complicated if I understood correctly.
Thank you for your time!
Best wishes.
- I am at 7.43 Mbps download: https://www.speedtest.net/result/9424046728.png
- Okay, I wanted to know if I could program the streaming flow, but apart from using professional equipment, it seems complicated if I understood correctly.
Thank you for your time!
Best wishes.
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OK, and this test is taken just behind the BOX... wired... and no one else connected at the same time??
-- Indeed, with that, you won't get far; you probably have a nice long wire between your home and the NRA... probably around 4 km... unless you switch to VDSL technology (short distance), still using copper wire... or fiber optics, you won’t be able to change anything about that...
-- Let's say that the download speed is decent for a single PC (in summary)... But the upload speed is quite low, and especially what is very penalizing for gaming is the ping of 31... That’s what blocks players... let's say that around 17 ms is much more bearable, and the best would be to be below 10...
... For streaming video, it doesn't really hinder them as they see their movie with a slight permanent delay... that’s not a problem.
-- Professional and remotely manageable routers are significantly more expensive... and you need to master the device... plus, it creates conflicts... In summary, for private individuals, it barely exists...
Here’s an example in your category https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00324918.html
There’s one more question... This BOX has Ethernet ports in 10/100, which is not the fastest; 10/100/1000 ports allow for faster exchange between the BOX and the PC. If the PC is also equipped with a "Gigabit" network card (10/100/1000), this point is a nice nuance when considering prioritization...
So here are the main points laid out... But with these values, there won't really be a miracle.
-- Indeed, with that, you won't get far; you probably have a nice long wire between your home and the NRA... probably around 4 km... unless you switch to VDSL technology (short distance), still using copper wire... or fiber optics, you won’t be able to change anything about that...
-- Let's say that the download speed is decent for a single PC (in summary)... But the upload speed is quite low, and especially what is very penalizing for gaming is the ping of 31... That’s what blocks players... let's say that around 17 ms is much more bearable, and the best would be to be below 10...
... For streaming video, it doesn't really hinder them as they see their movie with a slight permanent delay... that’s not a problem.
-- Professional and remotely manageable routers are significantly more expensive... and you need to master the device... plus, it creates conflicts... In summary, for private individuals, it barely exists...
Here’s an example in your category https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00324918.html
There’s one more question... This BOX has Ethernet ports in 10/100, which is not the fastest; 10/100/1000 ports allow for faster exchange between the BOX and the PC. If the PC is also equipped with a "Gigabit" network card (10/100/1000), this point is a nice nuance when considering prioritization...
So here are the main points laid out... But with these values, there won't really be a miracle.
Yes, I tested it wired with just me on the connection.
- I will inquire about VDSL, I won't have fiber for another 20 years ^^
- The game servers are in Germany, so even my friends with a good connection don't go below 25ms. I'm used to 30 or 40, it's 200 or more that is exhausting. And yes, there are generally no problems with videos.
- Indeed, managing my connection doesn't seem worth 450 euros for the device at the moment ^^
- Indeed, however, Free doesn't seem to specify which of its boxes have this technology. And this operator was the most efficient at the eligibility test, so I would like to keep it. Is there a way to find out which boxes have the 10/100/1000?
Indeed, as I live in the countryside, improving the speed is not a priority for ISPs here.
I just looked into VDSL2 and it seems like a solution for better speed by slightly increasing the subscription.
- I will inquire about VDSL, I won't have fiber for another 20 years ^^
- The game servers are in Germany, so even my friends with a good connection don't go below 25ms. I'm used to 30 or 40, it's 200 or more that is exhausting. And yes, there are generally no problems with videos.
- Indeed, managing my connection doesn't seem worth 450 euros for the device at the moment ^^
- Indeed, however, Free doesn't seem to specify which of its boxes have this technology. And this operator was the most efficient at the eligibility test, so I would like to keep it. Is there a way to find out which boxes have the 10/100/1000?
Indeed, as I live in the countryside, improving the speed is not a priority for ISPs here.
I just looked into VDSL2 and it seems like a solution for better speed by slightly increasing the subscription.
Indeed, being in the countryside, improving the bandwidth is not the priority of the ISPs here
I just looked into VDSL2 and it seems like a solution for better speeds by slightly increasing the subscription.
However, for VDSL2, you still need to be eligible in terms of distance.
If you are more than 1km / 1.5km away... it's dead... :-)
I just looked into VDSL2 and it seems like a solution for better speeds by slightly increasing the subscription.
However, for VDSL2, you still need to be eligible in terms of distance.
If you are more than 1km / 1.5km away... it's dead... :-)
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OK, VDSL brings an improvement, as long as you're not too far away... let's say one to two kilometers... beyond that, there's not much hope. So we need to know the length of the line to reach your place...?
Here's a site that allows you to analyze your line length https://www.degrouptest.com/ by entering a phone number... Then you can dig deeper into the menus by clicking further on the little links... etc..
For the Gigabit boxes, you need to look for the specifications of each one
The FPS you mentioned are those of games and servers,... not those of your internet connection, that's not the same thing.
Here's a site that allows you to analyze your line length https://www.degrouptest.com/ by entering a phone number... Then you can dig deeper into the menus by clicking further on the little links... etc..
For the Gigabit boxes, you need to look for the specifications of each one
The FPS you mentioned are those of games and servers,... not those of your internet connection, that's not the same thing.
According to degrouptest, I can only access ADSL, so they show n/a for the line length. Only a better box seems to be a solution.
I'm not talking about fps but ms for response time; it's indeed the lag that hinders me, not the framerate.
I will look into all of this anyway, but I don't have much hope ^^ Thank you.
I'm not talking about fps but ms for response time; it's indeed the lag that hinders me, not the framerate.
I will look into all of this anyway, but I don't have much hope ^^ Thank you.
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OK, how far do you estimate your line length to be...?
If you can go into your box, there are sometimes settings that allow you to decrease the signal-to-noise ratio or attenuation by switching to manual settings... it can gain you a bit... Sometimes...
You could also watch this video and try some points..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPbnTDDHdaI
If you can go into your box, there are sometimes settings that allow you to decrease the signal-to-noise ratio or attenuation by switching to manual settings... it can gain you a bit... Sometimes...
You could also watch this video and try some points..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPbnTDDHdaI
My number wasn't working, I tried with an address nearby and it gives me about 1500m.
For the manual settings, do I need to log into my personal space with the ISP?
Okay, I'll check that out.
For the manual settings, do I need to log into my personal space with the ISP?
Okay, I'll check that out.
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Okay, if your line is indeed about 1500m and it doesn't go around the town before reaching your home... I estimate that you should have a higher speed... from my point of view. And a shorter ping...
Is your line aerial..? Or buried..? Or submerged.
It's possible that Free shares the same connection with two users... so basically 20 megabytes divided by two clients... Hard to tell...
Otherwise, that means there are significant line losses, with connection faults, rusty terminals, etc... But depending on how it's done, it could be at your place as well... between the edge of the road... crossing the garden... entering the garage with wires that are too old with insulation faults in the walls... And also an old black three-pronged filter that is often hidden in a phone socket near the entrance; it needs to be removed... plain and simple.
Is your line indeed in "Total Unbundling"..?? Is your landline connected behind the BOX and not in a wall socket..?
For manual adjustment, if it's still possible, yes, you need to connect to your personal space..
Be careful, the effect is not immediately visible; it can take up to 24 hours..
Is your line aerial..? Or buried..? Or submerged.
It's possible that Free shares the same connection with two users... so basically 20 megabytes divided by two clients... Hard to tell...
Otherwise, that means there are significant line losses, with connection faults, rusty terminals, etc... But depending on how it's done, it could be at your place as well... between the edge of the road... crossing the garden... entering the garage with wires that are too old with insulation faults in the walls... And also an old black three-pronged filter that is often hidden in a phone socket near the entrance; it needs to be removed... plain and simple.
Is your line indeed in "Total Unbundling"..?? Is your landline connected behind the BOX and not in a wall socket..?
For manual adjustment, if it's still possible, yes, you need to connect to your personal space..
Be careful, the effect is not immediately visible; it can take up to 24 hours..
I could ask my neighbors to get a sense of whether my speed is normal given the line length. The line is buried.
I don't think it's the same network card for two because I've changed operators several times in an attempt to find better service at a better price, and I've never doubled my speed. At best, I've gained 10%. Otherwise, another operator with a different network card would have provided me with a much better speed, in my opinion.
The house is barely 15 years old; can the terminals already be rusty in that time?
I think I’m on a full unbundled plan since I can change providers.
The landline is indeed linked to the box.
I don't think it's the same network card for two because I've changed operators several times in an attempt to find better service at a better price, and I've never doubled my speed. At best, I've gained 10%. Otherwise, another operator with a different network card would have provided me with a much better speed, in my opinion.
The house is barely 15 years old; can the terminals already be rusty in that time?
I think I’m on a full unbundled plan since I can change providers.
The landline is indeed linked to the box.
Yes, the neighborhood is always informative... but to compare, you also need to know what kind of contract they have with their provider.....
-- contracts around 8 meg are often shared lines from the start, from the NRA or DSLAM.. or certain cabinets you see at the edge of the roads.. You also need to read what was agreed upon in the letter on the day of the commitment... If it's stated as 8 meg, you can't say anything..
Your house is 15 years old, that's a good point, but that doesn't prevent you from having a filter in your first phone socket; you need to check... the lines buried in the trenches...??? same... then, the rusty terminal blocks, it depends if the lid is put back on or not, if you live in a coastal area with salty winds... or the humidity of forests... it varies... But it's by looking that you get a better idea..
Yes, you must be on total unbundling...
I fear that an improvement will come at the cost of an additional subscription expense...
-- contracts around 8 meg are often shared lines from the start, from the NRA or DSLAM.. or certain cabinets you see at the edge of the roads.. You also need to read what was agreed upon in the letter on the day of the commitment... If it's stated as 8 meg, you can't say anything..
Your house is 15 years old, that's a good point, but that doesn't prevent you from having a filter in your first phone socket; you need to check... the lines buried in the trenches...??? same... then, the rusty terminal blocks, it depends if the lid is put back on or not, if you live in a coastal area with salty winds... or the humidity of forests... it varies... But it's by looking that you get a better idea..
Yes, you must be on total unbundling...
I fear that an improvement will come at the cost of an additional subscription expense...