My processor's frequencies are fluctuating wildly!
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Hello,
I would like to ask my question here because I am experiencing a rather annoying problem with my processor:
Indeed, while gaming, the framerate is extremely unstable; it fluctuates from 60 to 20 constantly, and varies depending on where I place the camera, as you can see in the images below:
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-04-7-1548548712-img-20190126-212327.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-04-7-1548548744-img-20190126-212743.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-04-7-1548548765-img-20190126-214848.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-04-7-1548548788-img-20190126-213938.jpg
The processor goes from 17 to over 80 ms sometimes. By the way, what does "ms" mean? Milliseconds?
I don't quite understand this graph...
Next, the clock speed constantly shifts from 2199Mhz to over 4200Mhz, almost every second! And the "multiplier" moves from 22x to 42x at the same pace (even when I don't have any programs open).
The temperature varies accordingly, continuously going from 48° to 38° in a matter of seconds.
I am aware that I set the resolution scale to 200% (just for my games because I find the image much sharper this way), and I notice that the problem diminishes as I lower this scale.
But since I own a RTX 2080 Ti, I believe I can afford it (at this resolution, I'm not even in 4k!).
Knowing that even at 1600*900, I still experience significant framerate drops, but at much slower intervals.
Additionally, on Ryzen Master, the EDC value shows in red: "100% at 140 A, Limit 168 A. I've tried adjusting the power options by setting the minimum processor state to 5%, as recommended on another forum, enabling/disabling XFR enhancement, with no results.
Finally, I had run OCCT tests which consistently failed after about 5 minutes (error Core#0), I had actually mentioned this in another topic.
Oh yes, one last thing, I did a benchmark with Passmark and Userbenchmark, and both agree that my RTX 2080 Ti is performing below what it should be... But why?? In the Nvidia control panel, I have set the parameters to "Prefer maximum performance"...
I apologize if I am rambling, but I think all these issues must have a single cause...
Could you spare a moment to explain to me what is happening?
Thank you very much in advance!
Here is my config:
- Ryzen 7 2700X
- Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming
- Zotac RTX 2080 Ti Twin Fan
- 16Go DDR4 3000Mhz
- SSD M.2 Corsair 500Go
- Corsair CX 750M
Edit: Important detail, my PC is only a month old, and I built it myself from A to Z; it was my first time ever assembling a PC. Could I have made an error somewhere?
I would like to ask my question here because I am experiencing a rather annoying problem with my processor:
Indeed, while gaming, the framerate is extremely unstable; it fluctuates from 60 to 20 constantly, and varies depending on where I place the camera, as you can see in the images below:
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-04-7-1548548712-img-20190126-212327.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-04-7-1548548744-img-20190126-212743.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-04-7-1548548765-img-20190126-214848.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-04-7-1548548788-img-20190126-213938.jpg
The processor goes from 17 to over 80 ms sometimes. By the way, what does "ms" mean? Milliseconds?
I don't quite understand this graph...
Next, the clock speed constantly shifts from 2199Mhz to over 4200Mhz, almost every second! And the "multiplier" moves from 22x to 42x at the same pace (even when I don't have any programs open).
The temperature varies accordingly, continuously going from 48° to 38° in a matter of seconds.
I am aware that I set the resolution scale to 200% (just for my games because I find the image much sharper this way), and I notice that the problem diminishes as I lower this scale.
But since I own a RTX 2080 Ti, I believe I can afford it (at this resolution, I'm not even in 4k!).
Knowing that even at 1600*900, I still experience significant framerate drops, but at much slower intervals.
Additionally, on Ryzen Master, the EDC value shows in red: "100% at 140 A, Limit 168 A. I've tried adjusting the power options by setting the minimum processor state to 5%, as recommended on another forum, enabling/disabling XFR enhancement, with no results.
Finally, I had run OCCT tests which consistently failed after about 5 minutes (error Core#0), I had actually mentioned this in another topic.
Oh yes, one last thing, I did a benchmark with Passmark and Userbenchmark, and both agree that my RTX 2080 Ti is performing below what it should be... But why?? In the Nvidia control panel, I have set the parameters to "Prefer maximum performance"...
I apologize if I am rambling, but I think all these issues must have a single cause...
Could you spare a moment to explain to me what is happening?
Thank you very much in advance!
Here is my config:
- Ryzen 7 2700X
- Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming
- Zotac RTX 2080 Ti Twin Fan
- 16Go DDR4 3000Mhz
- SSD M.2 Corsair 500Go
- Corsair CX 750M
Edit: Important detail, my PC is only a month old, and I built it myself from A to Z; it was my first time ever assembling a PC. Could I have made an error somewhere?
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Hello
First of all, to explain these "ms" graphs...
The game is running at 60fps for example.
60 frames per second gives a frequency. 60 events per second. 60 Hz.
When we talk about frequency, we talk about "period". "How long does 1 event last if there are 60 per second?"
1 second/60 events, 1/60, 0.01667 seconds so... 16.67 ms.
Here we find the 17ms, 19ms (varying depending on whether it's 55fps etc)
As for the variation in CPU frequency, try to see in the "Ryzen Master" software if the "game mode" is active.
The game mode disables some cores to gain a bit in frequency, games being often sensitive to single-core performance.
In your case, with a 2080ti, it’s important that all your cores are active to avoid bottlenecking.
I tried it at home: instead of reaching 4.7GHz at 12 logical cores, I disabled Hyperthreading and gained in overclocking: 6 physical/logical cores at 4.9GHz. Well, the average FPS went up a bit, but the minimum FPS (the ones that cause stuttering) dropped quite low...
Also, in the BIOS, try to disable "core performance boost," and apply a fixed voltage/frequency profile for your CPU
https://ggwptech.com/pc-hardware-reviews/overclocking-the-amd-ryzen-5-2600x/ (this should apply well for the 2700X, especially since it should hit 4.3 GHz stable)
For your unstable OCCT, you need to review your cooling system. OCCT is harsh on the CPU, it won’t destroy it but it definitely heats it up. Water cooling is a solution, I got my 360mm for €70 on Le Bon Coin
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First of all, to explain these "ms" graphs...
The game is running at 60fps for example.
60 frames per second gives a frequency. 60 events per second. 60 Hz.
When we talk about frequency, we talk about "period". "How long does 1 event last if there are 60 per second?"
1 second/60 events, 1/60, 0.01667 seconds so... 16.67 ms.
Here we find the 17ms, 19ms (varying depending on whether it's 55fps etc)
As for the variation in CPU frequency, try to see in the "Ryzen Master" software if the "game mode" is active.
The game mode disables some cores to gain a bit in frequency, games being often sensitive to single-core performance.
In your case, with a 2080ti, it’s important that all your cores are active to avoid bottlenecking.
I tried it at home: instead of reaching 4.7GHz at 12 logical cores, I disabled Hyperthreading and gained in overclocking: 6 physical/logical cores at 4.9GHz. Well, the average FPS went up a bit, but the minimum FPS (the ones that cause stuttering) dropped quite low...
Also, in the BIOS, try to disable "core performance boost," and apply a fixed voltage/frequency profile for your CPU
https://ggwptech.com/pc-hardware-reviews/overclocking-the-amd-ryzen-5-2600x/ (this should apply well for the 2700X, especially since it should hit 4.3 GHz stable)
For your unstable OCCT, you need to review your cooling system. OCCT is harsh on the CPU, it won’t destroy it but it definitely heats it up. Water cooling is a solution, I got my 360mm for €70 on Le Bon Coin
The GAFAM may not have oil but they have data!
Can you feel my Big Data?
A people sacrificing their freedoms for a bit more security loses them all.
ALL YOUR DATABASE ARE BELONG TO US
Hello,
Thanks for all the explanations!
So, I already bought a Be Quiet pure wings 2 fan because it was quite a struggle, so now I have 2 fans at the front and 1 at the back.
Strangely, it doesn’t change the temperatures... yet it’s running!
I checked that the Game Mode was indeed disabled in Ryzen Master, and then I followed your tutorial to overclock the processor, but I’m not sure I did it right:
In fact, in my BIOS, I have no option to adjust the CPU vcore, all I have is "Dynamic Vcore, CPU VDDP, Dynamic VCore SOC".
So, I pushed the Dynamic Vcore to the maximum, which is +0.204v, and set the frequency to 4.20 GHz.
In-game, I don’t really notice any difference, so I followed a tutorial to remove the stuttering using Nvidia Inspector (setting the "maximum pre-rendered frames" to 1).
It’s a little better, but I still have major frame rate drops (84 max, 55 avg, 20 min.) even though I’m not even at 4K... Even with the graphics set to High.
Regarding the low performance of my graphics card, any ideas? According to various benchmarks, I’m well below average. Even though it’s running, the fans are still quite loud!
Could my processor be limiting the performance of the RTX 2080Ti?
A 2700x is not bad, right?
Thanks for all the explanations!
So, I already bought a Be Quiet pure wings 2 fan because it was quite a struggle, so now I have 2 fans at the front and 1 at the back.
Strangely, it doesn’t change the temperatures... yet it’s running!
I checked that the Game Mode was indeed disabled in Ryzen Master, and then I followed your tutorial to overclock the processor, but I’m not sure I did it right:
In fact, in my BIOS, I have no option to adjust the CPU vcore, all I have is "Dynamic Vcore, CPU VDDP, Dynamic VCore SOC".
So, I pushed the Dynamic Vcore to the maximum, which is +0.204v, and set the frequency to 4.20 GHz.
In-game, I don’t really notice any difference, so I followed a tutorial to remove the stuttering using Nvidia Inspector (setting the "maximum pre-rendered frames" to 1).
It’s a little better, but I still have major frame rate drops (84 max, 55 avg, 20 min.) even though I’m not even at 4K... Even with the graphics set to High.
Regarding the low performance of my graphics card, any ideas? According to various benchmarks, I’m well below average. Even though it’s running, the fans are still quite loud!
Could my processor be limiting the performance of the RTX 2080Ti?
A 2700x is not bad, right?
A 2700X outperforms an i7-7700K in gaming, so you can say it really packs a punch. And those 8 SMT cores won't hold back the 2080TI.
On paper, the setup is solid.
Something bothers me: just one exhaust fan? Sure, I overclock, but I have 6, personally!
Try to max out the ventilation possible. Given the price of the setup, we can afford that ;-)
As for overclocking, +0.204V is nearly overkill; increasing the voltage boosts stability but also increases consumption and thus... heat. If you can lower it as long as the system doesn’t crash, do so. Either your CPU will work, or the system will crash. It’s that simple. In any case, it’s better to deal with a BSOD because of "undervolting" than to fry your CPU due to "overvolting."
The MIN framerate is what’s bugging you. That’s typical of a CPU bottleneck. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s overheating... Ryzen (and Ryzen 2 for sure) made significant strides in heat management, even teaching Intel a lesson, but it’s still high-end... it doesn’t cool like an Atom.
If you want advice, go into detail, provide the specs of your case and your budget, and I’ll recommend what to buy. Photos would also be helpful ;-)
As for advice on Ryzen overclocking... sorry. I haven't touched an AMD CPU motherboard in 6 years, and I didn't overclock it either :-D You’ll need to dig into the tutorials, like the one I sent you.
But once again, regarding cooling, I can give you some pertinent answers.
On paper, the setup is solid.
Something bothers me: just one exhaust fan? Sure, I overclock, but I have 6, personally!
Try to max out the ventilation possible. Given the price of the setup, we can afford that ;-)
As for overclocking, +0.204V is nearly overkill; increasing the voltage boosts stability but also increases consumption and thus... heat. If you can lower it as long as the system doesn’t crash, do so. Either your CPU will work, or the system will crash. It’s that simple. In any case, it’s better to deal with a BSOD because of "undervolting" than to fry your CPU due to "overvolting."
The MIN framerate is what’s bugging you. That’s typical of a CPU bottleneck. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s overheating... Ryzen (and Ryzen 2 for sure) made significant strides in heat management, even teaching Intel a lesson, but it’s still high-end... it doesn’t cool like an Atom.
If you want advice, go into detail, provide the specs of your case and your budget, and I’ll recommend what to buy. Photos would also be helpful ;-)
As for advice on Ryzen overclocking... sorry. I haven't touched an AMD CPU motherboard in 6 years, and I didn't overclock it either :-D You’ll need to dig into the tutorials, like the one I sent you.
But once again, regarding cooling, I can give you some pertinent answers.
Hello,
Thank you for taking the time to reply to me :-)
First of all, here are the specs:
- Case: Corsair Carbide SPEC-06 RGB
- Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S (I've read lots of excellent reviews on various sites, that's why I chose this model)
My setup cost me a total of €2095.
Here are some photos of the inside (be gentle, it was my first time xD)
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953481-img-20190131-172455.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953482-img-20190131-172536.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953482-img-20190131-172723.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953493-img-20190131-172759.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953494-img-20190131-173045.jpg
(I slightly messed up the cable management)
Regarding the number of fans, my case only came with 2 basic fans, I thought that adding a 3rd one and placing it in the front would be enough...
Is water cooling absolutely necessary or can I manage with just simple fans?
In-game, I captured the following values: 67° at 47% CPU usage, and 82° at 78% GPU usage.
So theoretically, the CPU is not overheating, right?
However, the CAM software keeps reminding me that the GPU has reached 82° and that it could reduce its lifespan...
It worries me a bit, so with MSI Afterburner, I tend to reduce the consumption to around 85%, apparently without any impact on performance.
Regarding overclocking, I eventually gave up and reverted the BIOS to default... especially since if the cooling isn't effective enough, it could do more harm than good, I imagine...
On this subject, Ryzen Master and CAM still indicate a frequency of 4000Mhz, even though I reverted to the base one (3700Mhz)... I left the control mode on "Auto"!
That's a lot of questions, sorry!
Thank you for taking the time to reply to me :-)
First of all, here are the specs:
- Case: Corsair Carbide SPEC-06 RGB
- Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S (I've read lots of excellent reviews on various sites, that's why I chose this model)
My setup cost me a total of €2095.
Here are some photos of the inside (be gentle, it was my first time xD)
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953481-img-20190131-172455.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953482-img-20190131-172536.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953482-img-20190131-172723.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953493-img-20190131-172759.jpg
http://www.noelshack.com/2019-05-4-1548953494-img-20190131-173045.jpg
(I slightly messed up the cable management)
Regarding the number of fans, my case only came with 2 basic fans, I thought that adding a 3rd one and placing it in the front would be enough...
Is water cooling absolutely necessary or can I manage with just simple fans?
In-game, I captured the following values: 67° at 47% CPU usage, and 82° at 78% GPU usage.
So theoretically, the CPU is not overheating, right?
However, the CAM software keeps reminding me that the GPU has reached 82° and that it could reduce its lifespan...
It worries me a bit, so with MSI Afterburner, I tend to reduce the consumption to around 85%, apparently without any impact on performance.
Regarding overclocking, I eventually gave up and reverted the BIOS to default... especially since if the cooling isn't effective enough, it could do more harm than good, I imagine...
On this subject, Ryzen Master and CAM still indicate a frequency of 4000Mhz, even though I reverted to the base one (3700Mhz)... I left the control mode on "Auto"!
That's a lot of questions, sorry!
Okay
First of all, the CPU should not exceed 85°C, otherwise it will reduce its frequency to limit overheating, which is known as "thermal throttling." See here the CPU specs.
The graphics card does not like to heat up to that extent at all. Mine never exceeds 50°C while gaming with the overclocking I've applied. For that, you just need to adjust the fan curve in Afterburner...
Personally, my curve is (was) simple: 0% below 30°, then a straight line up to 100% at 50°. If the GPU hits 50°, I want 100% of the available fan speed of the card :-D
For CPU overclocking, feel free to experiment, in any case, if you don't put 2V to your CPU it should be fine :-) Take it step by step, and check the MAX voltages from different Ryzen overclocking tutorials you’ll find, it will give you an idea of the MAX voltage you can afford to reach.
Example: My CPU is not supposed to exceed 1.3V (4.4GHz for me) but some have attempted a temporary OC at 1.46V. I knew I had some headroom, so! I pushed to 1.37V, I gained 300MHz. And it is stable 24/7. Of course, the CPU cooling is keeping up behind it
Now, let's talk about cooling!
- completely revisit your cable management! Here’s what mine looks like: Day, night.
The picture may look bad, but apart from the watercooling pipes and the PCI-e cables from the graphics card, NO cable is wandering around. They are ALL placed against the case.
There's just one you see "going out" from the GPU, it manages a fan on the case door. I put it back in place when I close the case ;-)
- replace the front fans with NF-A12x25 (I don’t know where your 2x120mm are pulling air from, but it doesn’t seem large, prioritize static pressure over airflow in this case)
- set all your other fans (those already present here) to exhaust (2 on top, 1 at the back)
And don't forget to
- revisit your GPU fan curve in Afterburner
- revisit the case fan curve in the BIOS
- follow overclocking tutorials. It takes some time to learn, it’s not just "putting in larger values," but the gain is worth it: +42% performance for me :-D
First of all, the CPU should not exceed 85°C, otherwise it will reduce its frequency to limit overheating, which is known as "thermal throttling." See here the CPU specs.
The graphics card does not like to heat up to that extent at all. Mine never exceeds 50°C while gaming with the overclocking I've applied. For that, you just need to adjust the fan curve in Afterburner...
Personally, my curve is (was) simple: 0% below 30°, then a straight line up to 100% at 50°. If the GPU hits 50°, I want 100% of the available fan speed of the card :-D
For CPU overclocking, feel free to experiment, in any case, if you don't put 2V to your CPU it should be fine :-) Take it step by step, and check the MAX voltages from different Ryzen overclocking tutorials you’ll find, it will give you an idea of the MAX voltage you can afford to reach.
Example: My CPU is not supposed to exceed 1.3V (4.4GHz for me) but some have attempted a temporary OC at 1.46V. I knew I had some headroom, so! I pushed to 1.37V, I gained 300MHz. And it is stable 24/7. Of course, the CPU cooling is keeping up behind it
Now, let's talk about cooling!
- completely revisit your cable management! Here’s what mine looks like: Day, night.
The picture may look bad, but apart from the watercooling pipes and the PCI-e cables from the graphics card, NO cable is wandering around. They are ALL placed against the case.
There's just one you see "going out" from the GPU, it manages a fan on the case door. I put it back in place when I close the case ;-)
- replace the front fans with NF-A12x25 (I don’t know where your 2x120mm are pulling air from, but it doesn’t seem large, prioritize static pressure over airflow in this case)
- set all your other fans (those already present here) to exhaust (2 on top, 1 at the back)
And don't forget to
- revisit your GPU fan curve in Afterburner
- revisit the case fan curve in the BIOS
- follow overclocking tutorials. It takes some time to learn, it’s not just "putting in larger values," but the gain is worth it: +42% performance for me :-D
Hello,
First of all, thank you for all these detailed answers!
I listened to you and I fixed the cable management; it's probably not perfect, but there’s already an improvement. Here’s a photo to compare with the previous one:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/06/3/1549467975-img-20190203-201035-modif.jpg
I changed the position of the rear fan and placed it higher, just above the heatsink radiator.
I feel like it's better now; I no longer exceed 65°, and I usually stay around 50° (regarding the voltage fluctuating from low to high and causing the temperature to vary accordingly, should I be worried or is that normal?)
I’m going to use some videos for optimal overclocking; right now I'm at +0.108v of "Dynamic Vcore" and at 4000MHz for the frequency... it’s stable, but I don’t see any improvement in performance...
However, the fans you mentioned are quite expensive, 38€/piece on LDLC... considering that my CPU cools properly, is it really necessary?
The issue is with the graphics card; I set the curve as you advised in MSI Afterburner, but it’s a disaster: the fans are extremely loud, the noise from the airflow is really strong, to the point that it disturbs my parents who are watching a movie right next to me...
If I want to keep the noise reasonable, I have to push them to 70% MAXIMUM; beyond that, it starts screaming :-/
The only solution right now to keep the card below 70° is to lower the "power limit" to 80%... which is somewhat equivalent to downclocking, right?
Isn't there a way to better cool the graphics card by adding additional fans? Or replace the original ones with quieter/more efficient ones?
The problem is that my case doesn’t provide any mounting system at the bottom of the graphics card!
So my question is: if I invest in additional fans to be mounted on either side of the case, will that be enough to cool the graphics card well and thus allow me to avoid pushing its fans to the maximum?
Or are the stock fans completely inadequate, and would it be worth buying fans that would replace the original ones, which would definitely be MUCH quieter?
Thanks again for your answers.
First of all, thank you for all these detailed answers!
I listened to you and I fixed the cable management; it's probably not perfect, but there’s already an improvement. Here’s a photo to compare with the previous one:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/06/3/1549467975-img-20190203-201035-modif.jpg
I changed the position of the rear fan and placed it higher, just above the heatsink radiator.
I feel like it's better now; I no longer exceed 65°, and I usually stay around 50° (regarding the voltage fluctuating from low to high and causing the temperature to vary accordingly, should I be worried or is that normal?)
I’m going to use some videos for optimal overclocking; right now I'm at +0.108v of "Dynamic Vcore" and at 4000MHz for the frequency... it’s stable, but I don’t see any improvement in performance...
However, the fans you mentioned are quite expensive, 38€/piece on LDLC... considering that my CPU cools properly, is it really necessary?
The issue is with the graphics card; I set the curve as you advised in MSI Afterburner, but it’s a disaster: the fans are extremely loud, the noise from the airflow is really strong, to the point that it disturbs my parents who are watching a movie right next to me...
If I want to keep the noise reasonable, I have to push them to 70% MAXIMUM; beyond that, it starts screaming :-/
The only solution right now to keep the card below 70° is to lower the "power limit" to 80%... which is somewhat equivalent to downclocking, right?
Isn't there a way to better cool the graphics card by adding additional fans? Or replace the original ones with quieter/more efficient ones?
The problem is that my case doesn’t provide any mounting system at the bottom of the graphics card!
So my question is: if I invest in additional fans to be mounted on either side of the case, will that be enough to cool the graphics card well and thus allow me to avoid pushing its fans to the maximum?
Or are the stock fans completely inadequate, and would it be worth buying fans that would replace the original ones, which would definitely be MUCH quieter?
Thanks again for your answers.
So
First of all, the cable management is spot on for a start.
It's not perfect, but it's sufficient for now so you don't need to worry too much about it.
When you start overclocking seriously, trying to gain every MHz, trying for that extra 0.01V... you will be hunting for every lost Celsius degree :-D Then it'll be interesting to optimize everything.
Placing the rear fan at the top is a good thing. Hot air rises, and the ATX standard is designed for that (no joke, but I can't remember where I saw that)
If the graphics card fans are too loud at 100%, set them to 70% at 40° and leave it at that. That would give you a curve that goes from 0% at 30°, then a straight line up to 70% at 40°, followed by a horizontal line at 70%. Still, let a line start at 60° (still 70%, then) up to 70° for 100%. At 70°, the card shouldn't exceed that. If your GPU is at 70°, your VRMs are at least at 90°!
From there, keep the power limit at 100%. No need to go higher, the Pascal architecture doesn't like exceeding the 100% power limit. It should be the same with Turing.
You don't need to change your fans.
In intake mode, given the little airflow coming from the front, you MUST switch to effective hardware. But your current three fans, which provide plenty of airflow since there are three of them, don't need to be replaced. You will set them up for exhaust at the back (1) and at the top (2). Over-pressure or under-pressure are generally to be avoided, but two very good fans will almost be worth three average or even good fans.
Check this out, you'll like it ;-) Noctua 120mm, gray, highly efficient in static pressure, silent, PWM, and at less than €19 each, I don't know what more you need!
Take two, that will work. Those will go in the front, just a reminder ;-)
Normally, the airflow will change everything. There will be more air, the fans will spin slower (silence!) but it'll move enough to cool the graphics card (silence!)
In short, the more fans you have, the quieter it is.
My PC is in my bedroom and sometimes it stays on overnight... I actually have 11 case fans! And 3 for the graphics card! I can't hear them from 3m away from my bed.
From there... well, you just have to enjoy yourself ;-)
First of all, the cable management is spot on for a start.
It's not perfect, but it's sufficient for now so you don't need to worry too much about it.
When you start overclocking seriously, trying to gain every MHz, trying for that extra 0.01V... you will be hunting for every lost Celsius degree :-D Then it'll be interesting to optimize everything.
Placing the rear fan at the top is a good thing. Hot air rises, and the ATX standard is designed for that (no joke, but I can't remember where I saw that)
If the graphics card fans are too loud at 100%, set them to 70% at 40° and leave it at that. That would give you a curve that goes from 0% at 30°, then a straight line up to 70% at 40°, followed by a horizontal line at 70%. Still, let a line start at 60° (still 70%, then) up to 70° for 100%. At 70°, the card shouldn't exceed that. If your GPU is at 70°, your VRMs are at least at 90°!
From there, keep the power limit at 100%. No need to go higher, the Pascal architecture doesn't like exceeding the 100% power limit. It should be the same with Turing.
You don't need to change your fans.
In intake mode, given the little airflow coming from the front, you MUST switch to effective hardware. But your current three fans, which provide plenty of airflow since there are three of them, don't need to be replaced. You will set them up for exhaust at the back (1) and at the top (2). Over-pressure or under-pressure are generally to be avoided, but two very good fans will almost be worth three average or even good fans.
Check this out, you'll like it ;-) Noctua 120mm, gray, highly efficient in static pressure, silent, PWM, and at less than €19 each, I don't know what more you need!
Take two, that will work. Those will go in the front, just a reminder ;-)
Normally, the airflow will change everything. There will be more air, the fans will spin slower (silence!) but it'll move enough to cool the graphics card (silence!)
In short, the more fans you have, the quieter it is.
My PC is in my bedroom and sometimes it stays on overnight... I actually have 11 case fans! And 3 for the graphics card! I can't hear them from 3m away from my bed.
From there... well, you just have to enjoy yourself ;-)
Hi,
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/06/7/1549831274-img-20190207-202135-edit-1.jpg
I've revised my cable management again; honestly, I don't know what more I can do!
I modified the fan curve as you suggested; here's a screenshot so you can check that I didn't mess it up ^^:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/06/7/1549831502-printscreen-msi-temp.png
Is my graphics card defective? The fans were at 100%, and the temperature still rose to 74°! The only way for it to drop below 70° is if I lower the power limit in Afterburner to a maximum of 80%; otherwise, it skyrockets!
Could it be due to the lack of fans in the case? If that were the case, all the components should overheat, right? Yet, it's only the graphics card...
Thanks for the link to the Noctua fans; as soon as I can afford them, I'll install them and get back to you, if you don't mind continuing to help me, of course :-)
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/06/7/1549831274-img-20190207-202135-edit-1.jpg
I've revised my cable management again; honestly, I don't know what more I can do!
I modified the fan curve as you suggested; here's a screenshot so you can check that I didn't mess it up ^^:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/06/7/1549831502-printscreen-msi-temp.png
Is my graphics card defective? The fans were at 100%, and the temperature still rose to 74°! The only way for it to drop below 70° is if I lower the power limit in Afterburner to a maximum of 80%; otherwise, it skyrockets!
Could it be due to the lack of fans in the case? If that were the case, all the components should overheat, right? Yet, it's only the graphics card...
Thanks for the link to the Noctua fans; as soon as I can afford them, I'll install them and get back to you, if you don't mind continuing to help me, of course :-)
Okay, you've followed EXACTLY everything I told you, so it's good :-)
The cable management is clean now! It's perfect. Going forward, use zip ties; that's the secret to perfect cable management. That way, even at the back of the case, it's clean.
The fan curve is as I told you, perfect.
You still need to improve the ventilation. Adding 2 fans, which are also suited and sized to your needs, will really make a difference. That's the only reason your card heats up so much.
Some even go as far as replacing the thermal paste of the graphics card with Kryonaut; I did it with my previous cards. You really gain from it.
The cable management is clean now! It's perfect. Going forward, use zip ties; that's the secret to perfect cable management. That way, even at the back of the case, it's clean.
The fan curve is as I told you, perfect.
You still need to improve the ventilation. Adding 2 fans, which are also suited and sized to your needs, will really make a difference. That's the only reason your card heats up so much.
Some even go as far as replacing the thermal paste of the graphics card with Kryonaut; I did it with my previous cards. You really gain from it.
Hi,
I finally received my new Noctua fans, and I took the opportunity to review the cable management one last time, here’s a photo to give you an idea:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/08/4/1550757927-pc-cable-management-noctua.jpg
I tested all this in-game on Far Cry 5, and... no difference! :-(
I still reach around 78°!
I’m even starting to wonder if I didn’t install the fans the wrong way, but I followed the direction of the arrows...
Once again, the only solution is to lower the power limit to about 70% to keep it under 70°...
I’m losing hope!
For the thermal paste, if I open the card, am I at risk of voiding the warranty? And can I use the same one that I applied to the processor?
Thanks in advance!
I finally received my new Noctua fans, and I took the opportunity to review the cable management one last time, here’s a photo to give you an idea:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/08/4/1550757927-pc-cable-management-noctua.jpg
I tested all this in-game on Far Cry 5, and... no difference! :-(
I still reach around 78°!
I’m even starting to wonder if I didn’t install the fans the wrong way, but I followed the direction of the arrows...
Once again, the only solution is to lower the power limit to about 70% to keep it under 70°...
I’m losing hope!
For the thermal paste, if I open the card, am I at risk of voiding the warranty? And can I use the same one that I applied to the processor?
Thanks in advance!
OKAY
This is problematic.
As for the assembly, nothing to say, it's clean, everything is fine.
You frankly shouldn't be hitting 70° without overclocking at 70% fan speed! Is the fan curve still the same?
Let's assume that's the case.
First of all, don't touch your power limit. If there's a problem, it doesn't come from there. Trust me, my GPU doesn't have such temperatures, and its power limit is at 100%.
Do a test. AT IDLE, set the fan speed of the card to 100%. Watch the temperature drop, and once it's stabilized, note the obtained temperature.
From there, launch Far Cry, and note the maximum temperature.
This is just to see how your card behaves at full fan speed.
Clearly, overclocked, it has NEVER exceeded 52° at 100% fan speed in-game. And I don't think I've ever exceeded it in benchmarks, that's saying something! If it goes above 52°, there's a cooling problem with the card.
During the test in-game, check if all the fans are working. Especially the graphics card fans.
How do you control the case fan speeds? If it's done through the BIOS, take a look in there and adjust the speeds. Personally, at my place, my fans are set like this:
0% until 30°
flat line from 30° to 50°
If my CPU exceeds 50°, I want 100% of the available ventilation. For my case, it's different, my CPU cannot exceed 64°. But nothing prevents you from testing this curve, it's still fine for a CPU handling 85°. It won't hurt it, and you can be sure you'll have good airflow in the case while gaming; your CPU should definitely exceed 50°.
Replacing the thermal paste on the GPU does not void any warranty if there is no warranty sticker on the mounting screws. To remove the GPU from its cooling, normally 4 screws are enough. They are the ones that form a square closest to the GPU. CPU thermal paste will work very well; I used NT-H1 on my GPUs.
Again, Kryonaut is the most suitable: it's very effective plus its extremely high viscosity. The application is a bit more delicate, you feel like you're applying glue, but it works a ton.
This is problematic.
As for the assembly, nothing to say, it's clean, everything is fine.
You frankly shouldn't be hitting 70° without overclocking at 70% fan speed! Is the fan curve still the same?
Let's assume that's the case.
First of all, don't touch your power limit. If there's a problem, it doesn't come from there. Trust me, my GPU doesn't have such temperatures, and its power limit is at 100%.
Do a test. AT IDLE, set the fan speed of the card to 100%. Watch the temperature drop, and once it's stabilized, note the obtained temperature.
From there, launch Far Cry, and note the maximum temperature.
This is just to see how your card behaves at full fan speed.
Clearly, overclocked, it has NEVER exceeded 52° at 100% fan speed in-game. And I don't think I've ever exceeded it in benchmarks, that's saying something! If it goes above 52°, there's a cooling problem with the card.
During the test in-game, check if all the fans are working. Especially the graphics card fans.
How do you control the case fan speeds? If it's done through the BIOS, take a look in there and adjust the speeds. Personally, at my place, my fans are set like this:
0% until 30°
flat line from 30° to 50°
If my CPU exceeds 50°, I want 100% of the available ventilation. For my case, it's different, my CPU cannot exceed 64°. But nothing prevents you from testing this curve, it's still fine for a CPU handling 85°. It won't hurt it, and you can be sure you'll have good airflow in the case while gaming; your CPU should definitely exceed 50°.
Replacing the thermal paste on the GPU does not void any warranty if there is no warranty sticker on the mounting screws. To remove the GPU from its cooling, normally 4 screws are enough. They are the ones that form a square closest to the GPU. CPU thermal paste will work very well; I used NT-H1 on my GPUs.
Again, Kryonaut is the most suitable: it's very effective plus its extremely high viscosity. The application is a bit more delicate, you feel like you're applying glue, but it works a ton.
Thank you for your quick response,
Yes, it's still the same curve.
I tested the temperatures a bit and here's what I found:
At rest, auto fans
Temperature: 48 °C
Fan speed: +- 1150 RPM
At rest, custom fan curve
Temperature: 39 - 40 °C
Fan speed: +- 2330 - 2580 RPM
At rest, fans at 100%
Temperature: 38 °C
Fan speed: +- 3410 RPM
In-game, fans at 100%
Temperature: 74 °C
Where it gets interesting is that I went into the BIOS to configure a curve as you suggested, and now, the graphics card temperature at rest seems to have dropped to 31 °C!
That's a big improvement!
However, in-game, still the same thing, it goes up to 70 °C after a few minutes...
Also, regarding the settings, I have no idea what to set between PWM, Voltage, and especially the infamous "Fan Control Use Temperature Input"?!?
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/08/4/1550783899-img-20190221-215323.jpg
What am I supposed to set?
Also, I have the impression that I plugged one of the two Noctua in the wrong place: I plugged one into "Fan 6 Pump" and I feel like as soon as I touch it, it also affects the CPU fan...
Any idea?
Yes, it's still the same curve.
I tested the temperatures a bit and here's what I found:
At rest, auto fans
Temperature: 48 °C
Fan speed: +- 1150 RPM
At rest, custom fan curve
Temperature: 39 - 40 °C
Fan speed: +- 2330 - 2580 RPM
At rest, fans at 100%
Temperature: 38 °C
Fan speed: +- 3410 RPM
In-game, fans at 100%
Temperature: 74 °C
Where it gets interesting is that I went into the BIOS to configure a curve as you suggested, and now, the graphics card temperature at rest seems to have dropped to 31 °C!
That's a big improvement!
However, in-game, still the same thing, it goes up to 70 °C after a few minutes...
Also, regarding the settings, I have no idea what to set between PWM, Voltage, and especially the infamous "Fan Control Use Temperature Input"?!?
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2019/08/4/1550783899-img-20190221-215323.jpg
What am I supposed to set?
Also, I have the impression that I plugged one of the two Noctua in the wrong place: I plugged one into "Fan 6 Pump" and I feel like as soon as I touch it, it also affects the CPU fan...
Any idea?
Okay
First of all, your fan curve dropping from 39~40° to 38° while you're supposed to have the fan speeds going from 70% (barely) to 100% is not normal.
Mine goes down to 23°, the room temperature! It takes some time, sure, but it gradually approaches that value.
Make sure all your fans are spinning, and that all the custom curves in the BIOS are set correctly.
The recorded speeds are consistent with the curve. The temperatures are not.
We can test another GPU curve:
a straight line at 40% from 0° to 30°, then a straight line from 30° (40%) to 65° (100%).
The first part of the curve will provide a constant airflow in the card while keeping noise levels very low. This will prevent the card from reaching high temperatures when the system starts.
Since you’re not overclocking heavily on your card, you can apply this same profile at Windows startup after saving it in a profile. If you start hitting the red zone (and right now, conditions don't allow it so I wouldn't recommend it), think about removing this setting ;-)
We have a lead to resolve your custom fan curve issue. Apparently, there was a problem on that side. 31° is the temperature you should have with the fans at 40%.
Now, another problem.
Fan management in the BIOS.
The options in front of you are very simple:
- The curve, we're in agreement on that
- CPU FAN Speed Control: custom management in "Manual", that's your case, we're good
- Fan Control Use Temperature Input: source, thermometer used to measure the temperature to correlate with your curve: CPU
We're good, I don't think there are other parameters than "CPU" and "Chipset". From the two, choose the CPU.
THIS MEANS that your CPU is the source. If it doesn't heat up too much, the fans won't spin fast, so the airflow in the case won't be great, meaning the GPU will struggle to cool down.
There's your "other problem."
You should, at the very least, be more aggressive in the curve. Already, keeping them at 50% (or 40% if you can) until 30° and then ramping up to 100% at 50° will make them faster on average, this curve never crossing the current curve until their maximum at 50°. And it will provide a constant airflow in your case. Your GPU will still be cooled down, even in the absence of tasks.
- Temperature interval: 3. This is a time in seconds between the different measurements, you can lower it to 1. Don't go below that, it will drain performance otherwise.
- CPU FAN Control mode: PWM (perfect)
PWM is a way to manage the fan.
There are two types:
- voltage variation (classic)
- pulse width modulation (PWM)
The first will simply deliver more or less voltage. When you ask your fan to run at 70%, your motherboard will supply 8.4V.
The problem is that the fan motor is not optimal at 8.4V; it will start losing efficiency and generating unwanted vibrations. Clearly to be avoided when you can use PWM.
The second, PWM, is a management via modulation. When you ask your fan to run at 70%, for a given period (short generally), the fan will run at 12V 70% of the time. For the remaining 30%, it won't be powered.
This technique allows the motor to run consistently at its cruising voltage, thereby avoiding too much loss in efficiency and limiting vibrations.
The only check to make is to ensure that the fans, as well as the motherboard connectors, support PWM.
If you have 3 connectors, it's voltage variation. If you have 4 connectors, it's PWM.
- CPU Fan Stop: Allows the fans to stop for silence. To be avoided in your case since we're facing a temperature issue.
Make sure all the BIOS curves are the same and correct, check that the fans are all spinning (if you consider the profiles above, they should ALL be running constantly) and look at the results.
If all these changes do not resolve anything, try returning your card for RMA. It will save you from disassembly manipulations that could unnecessarily void the warranty. And go directly to the store for that.
First of all, your fan curve dropping from 39~40° to 38° while you're supposed to have the fan speeds going from 70% (barely) to 100% is not normal.
Mine goes down to 23°, the room temperature! It takes some time, sure, but it gradually approaches that value.
Make sure all your fans are spinning, and that all the custom curves in the BIOS are set correctly.
The recorded speeds are consistent with the curve. The temperatures are not.
We can test another GPU curve:
a straight line at 40% from 0° to 30°, then a straight line from 30° (40%) to 65° (100%).
The first part of the curve will provide a constant airflow in the card while keeping noise levels very low. This will prevent the card from reaching high temperatures when the system starts.
Since you’re not overclocking heavily on your card, you can apply this same profile at Windows startup after saving it in a profile. If you start hitting the red zone (and right now, conditions don't allow it so I wouldn't recommend it), think about removing this setting ;-)
We have a lead to resolve your custom fan curve issue. Apparently, there was a problem on that side. 31° is the temperature you should have with the fans at 40%.
Now, another problem.
Fan management in the BIOS.
The options in front of you are very simple:
- The curve, we're in agreement on that
- CPU FAN Speed Control: custom management in "Manual", that's your case, we're good
- Fan Control Use Temperature Input: source, thermometer used to measure the temperature to correlate with your curve: CPU
We're good, I don't think there are other parameters than "CPU" and "Chipset". From the two, choose the CPU.
THIS MEANS that your CPU is the source. If it doesn't heat up too much, the fans won't spin fast, so the airflow in the case won't be great, meaning the GPU will struggle to cool down.
There's your "other problem."
You should, at the very least, be more aggressive in the curve. Already, keeping them at 50% (or 40% if you can) until 30° and then ramping up to 100% at 50° will make them faster on average, this curve never crossing the current curve until their maximum at 50°. And it will provide a constant airflow in your case. Your GPU will still be cooled down, even in the absence of tasks.
- Temperature interval: 3. This is a time in seconds between the different measurements, you can lower it to 1. Don't go below that, it will drain performance otherwise.
- CPU FAN Control mode: PWM (perfect)
PWM is a way to manage the fan.
There are two types:
- voltage variation (classic)
- pulse width modulation (PWM)
The first will simply deliver more or less voltage. When you ask your fan to run at 70%, your motherboard will supply 8.4V.
The problem is that the fan motor is not optimal at 8.4V; it will start losing efficiency and generating unwanted vibrations. Clearly to be avoided when you can use PWM.
The second, PWM, is a management via modulation. When you ask your fan to run at 70%, for a given period (short generally), the fan will run at 12V 70% of the time. For the remaining 30%, it won't be powered.
This technique allows the motor to run consistently at its cruising voltage, thereby avoiding too much loss in efficiency and limiting vibrations.
The only check to make is to ensure that the fans, as well as the motherboard connectors, support PWM.
If you have 3 connectors, it's voltage variation. If you have 4 connectors, it's PWM.
- CPU Fan Stop: Allows the fans to stop for silence. To be avoided in your case since we're facing a temperature issue.
Make sure all the BIOS curves are the same and correct, check that the fans are all spinning (if you consider the profiles above, they should ALL be running constantly) and look at the results.
If all these changes do not resolve anything, try returning your card for RMA. It will save you from disassembly manipulations that could unnecessarily void the warranty. And go directly to the store for that.
Hi
Don't you have a Turbo option enabled? It happened to me with my I5 when I overclocked it; once the Turbo was removed, I've been at 4.2 GHz 24/7 since I got it...
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The Force is like computers; its actions are unpredictable.
Don't you have a Turbo option enabled? It happened to me with my I5 when I overclocked it; once the Turbo was removed, I've been at 4.2 GHz 24/7 since I got it...
--
The Force is like computers; its actions are unpredictable.
Thank you for your replies,
I have indeed reactivated the "Precision Boost Overdrive," but even without it, the CPU temperature constantly fluctuates from 46 to 28 °C.
That said, it's the least of my worries right now!
Modifying the fan curve of the case doesn't change the temperature of the graphics card at all when it's under load... However, at idle, it is now at 27 °C.
I should mention that my current screen is a 900p (I know, it's a bummer when you have a 2080Ti but it's temporary xD), but I've enabled DSR to quadruple the resolution.
When I switch back to 900p, the problem disappears, but the day I get a 4K screen, it will be even worse...
Otherwise, I've visited several English-speaking forums where lots of people are complaining about the same issue, so I find myself wondering if this is really a problem, or just a normal characteristic that I'm unfortunately going to have to accept...
I have indeed reactivated the "Precision Boost Overdrive," but even without it, the CPU temperature constantly fluctuates from 46 to 28 °C.
That said, it's the least of my worries right now!
Modifying the fan curve of the case doesn't change the temperature of the graphics card at all when it's under load... However, at idle, it is now at 27 °C.
I should mention that my current screen is a 900p (I know, it's a bummer when you have a 2080Ti but it's temporary xD), but I've enabled DSR to quadruple the resolution.
When I switch back to 900p, the problem disappears, but the day I get a 4K screen, it will be even worse...
Otherwise, I've visited several English-speaking forums where lots of people are complaining about the same issue, so I find myself wondering if this is really a problem, or just a normal characteristic that I'm unfortunately going to have to accept...
I'm getting back to you because the situation seems to have evolved dramatically, in a good way!
To the point where it's almost too good to be true.
I've decided to completely format my PC and only reinstall the software that is STRICTLY necessary (games, graphics driver, MSI Afterburner, and that's about it).
After launching Far Cry 5, still in 900p but with the resolution scale at 200%, I was quite surprised to find that the graphics card now doesn't go above 52 °C! Overclocked!!!
(I pushed the Core clock to +180 and the Memory clock to +600)
The settings are exactly the same as before, whether it's the resolution, the 60 fps, and the Ultra settings. Better yet, the 52 °C is achieved with the GPU fans at only 70%! The coil whine has also disappeared!
I can even afford to lower them to 50% without reaching 60 °C! I still can't believe it!
The only clue that comes to mind for now is that I decided not to follow the advice of just about everyone regarding the Nvidia control panel settings.
Indeed, many forum users/Youtubers tend to recommend either choosing the "Use the advanced 3D image settings" option (and tweak the options from there), or "Use my preference to enhance: Quality".
No, now I've left the default option "Let the 3D application decide".
Could it be that the problem was there?
Now, maybe Far Cry 5 simply isn't demanding enough to really push the graphics card to its limits.
So now I'm re-downloading Assassin's Creed Odyssey and GTA5, and of course, I intend to test the "new" behavior of my graphics card with these two other games.
I want to thank you for your help, and especially you luckydu43, I've never known a forum user as helpful and meticulous in their explanations. Honestly, thank you!
That being said, I will still come back quickly to keep you updated on the situation, just to see if I've gotten my hopes up for nothing or not!
EDIT: Well, there's something strange happening now: at times (not every time), when I switch from my game to another window, for example Chrome, the graphics card starts to be heavily stressed, its temperature shoots up to over 70 °C, and the coil whine comes back in full force. As soon as I switch back to the game, it cools down instantly... What the hell is going on?!?
To the point where it's almost too good to be true.
I've decided to completely format my PC and only reinstall the software that is STRICTLY necessary (games, graphics driver, MSI Afterburner, and that's about it).
After launching Far Cry 5, still in 900p but with the resolution scale at 200%, I was quite surprised to find that the graphics card now doesn't go above 52 °C! Overclocked!!!
(I pushed the Core clock to +180 and the Memory clock to +600)
The settings are exactly the same as before, whether it's the resolution, the 60 fps, and the Ultra settings. Better yet, the 52 °C is achieved with the GPU fans at only 70%! The coil whine has also disappeared!
I can even afford to lower them to 50% without reaching 60 °C! I still can't believe it!
The only clue that comes to mind for now is that I decided not to follow the advice of just about everyone regarding the Nvidia control panel settings.
Indeed, many forum users/Youtubers tend to recommend either choosing the "Use the advanced 3D image settings" option (and tweak the options from there), or "Use my preference to enhance: Quality".
No, now I've left the default option "Let the 3D application decide".
Could it be that the problem was there?
Now, maybe Far Cry 5 simply isn't demanding enough to really push the graphics card to its limits.
So now I'm re-downloading Assassin's Creed Odyssey and GTA5, and of course, I intend to test the "new" behavior of my graphics card with these two other games.
I want to thank you for your help, and especially you luckydu43, I've never known a forum user as helpful and meticulous in their explanations. Honestly, thank you!
That being said, I will still come back quickly to keep you updated on the situation, just to see if I've gotten my hopes up for nothing or not!
EDIT: Well, there's something strange happening now: at times (not every time), when I switch from my game to another window, for example Chrome, the graphics card starts to be heavily stressed, its temperature shoots up to over 70 °C, and the coil whine comes back in full force. As soon as I switch back to the game, it cools down instantly... What the hell is going on?!?
I also forgot to mention that I did a new benchmark with Userbenchmark and my graphics card literally crushes the average scores: 230%. Whereas before I was at 203% (with overclocking).
However, there are no results for "DirectX11", probably because I haven't installed the appropriate software (?). Is it serious? Is it because of this that the graphics card behaves better? Do I have to install DX11 and 12 even though my GPU seems to be working better without it?
However, there are no results for "DirectX11", probably because I haven't installed the appropriate software (?). Is it serious? Is it because of this that the graphics card behaves better? Do I have to install DX11 and 12 even though my GPU seems to be working better without it?
\o/
Wow! There have been a lot of proposals around here ^^' Not a single one was about the graphics driver settings. I'm still surprised that it comes from a setting, but it clearly is the case
By the way, aside from MSI Afterburner, I don't touch any other graphic settings ;-) G-Sync in Full-screen Only at most
when I switch from my game to another window, for example Chrome, the graphics card starts to be heavily utilized, its temperature skyrockets to over 70 °C and the coil whine kicks back in. As soon as I switch back to the game, it instantly calms down
I have that too. However, my fan profile remains active so even if the card gets excited, the fans cool it down.
maybe Far Cry 5 is simply not demanding enough [...] I am re-downloading Assassin's Creed Odyssey and GTA5 (to) test the "new" behavior [...] with these 2 other games
If your problem has disappeared in Far Cry 5 (which is demanding! Let's not kid ourselves, it's still AAA), it should disappear in the others as well
However, there are no results for "DirectX11", probably because I haven't installed the appropriate software (?).
DX11 is integrated into Windows and/or the games.
That’s not the reason for performance loss!
The last time I had that, it was because the DX11 benchmark test crashed due to excessive greed in the OC frequencies.
Do I have to install DX11 and 12 even though my GPU seems to work better without them?
There, on the other hand, if you download a "pseudo-DX", give up. DX is integrated in the games at worst. Not for direct download.
Wow! There have been a lot of proposals around here ^^' Not a single one was about the graphics driver settings. I'm still surprised that it comes from a setting, but it clearly is the case
By the way, aside from MSI Afterburner, I don't touch any other graphic settings ;-) G-Sync in Full-screen Only at most
when I switch from my game to another window, for example Chrome, the graphics card starts to be heavily utilized, its temperature skyrockets to over 70 °C and the coil whine kicks back in. As soon as I switch back to the game, it instantly calms down
I have that too. However, my fan profile remains active so even if the card gets excited, the fans cool it down.
maybe Far Cry 5 is simply not demanding enough [...] I am re-downloading Assassin's Creed Odyssey and GTA5 (to) test the "new" behavior [...] with these 2 other games
If your problem has disappeared in Far Cry 5 (which is demanding! Let's not kid ourselves, it's still AAA), it should disappear in the others as well
However, there are no results for "DirectX11", probably because I haven't installed the appropriate software (?).
DX11 is integrated into Windows and/or the games.
That’s not the reason for performance loss!
The last time I had that, it was because the DX11 benchmark test crashed due to excessive greed in the OC frequencies.
Do I have to install DX11 and 12 even though my GPU seems to work better without them?
There, on the other hand, if you download a "pseudo-DX", give up. DX is integrated in the games at worst. Not for direct download.
Thank you for your response,
we can forget everything I said about the formatting, it hasn't really changed anything:
I'm hitting 80 °C on AC Odyssey and Shadow Of The Tomb Raider with the fans at 70%.
However, on Far Cry 5 and GTA 5, by limiting the framerate to 60fps, I don't exceed 53/54 °C.
A semi-false sense of joy then.
Why do the temperatures differ so much from one game to another?!
we can forget everything I said about the formatting, it hasn't really changed anything:
I'm hitting 80 °C on AC Odyssey and Shadow Of The Tomb Raider with the fans at 70%.
However, on Far Cry 5 and GTA 5, by limiting the framerate to 60fps, I don't exceed 53/54 °C.
A semi-false sense of joy then.
Why do the temperatures differ so much from one game to another?!
Certainly because your card is not being utilized to its full potential in FC5/GTAV with a max fps of 60 ;-)
I run GTA V on ultra at 3440x1440 (1080ti), it fluctuates between 90 and 110 fps. With scenes hitting 160.
In the end, these games may not be the most demanding on the list...
Why do temperatures vary so much from one game to another?!
A more demanding game will push your card to 100%, thus making it heat up.
I just checked. All the tests of the 2080ti Zotac concern the triple-fan, or the AMP!. But not the dual-fan.
It smells like a discount 2080ti without being rude. And if that's the case, you're going to have to choose between silence and performance ;-) The right compromise is only possible with an adequate cooling system.
I suggested a warranty return on 02/22, but it might be better to proceed with an exchange for a more expensive, but better-built model.
I would like to see an official test of the 2080ti twin fan; I haven't found one.
Sorry, this is for me the only logical explanation.
I run GTA V on ultra at 3440x1440 (1080ti), it fluctuates between 90 and 110 fps. With scenes hitting 160.
In the end, these games may not be the most demanding on the list...
Why do temperatures vary so much from one game to another?!
A more demanding game will push your card to 100%, thus making it heat up.
I just checked. All the tests of the 2080ti Zotac concern the triple-fan, or the AMP!. But not the dual-fan.
It smells like a discount 2080ti without being rude. And if that's the case, you're going to have to choose between silence and performance ;-) The right compromise is only possible with an adequate cooling system.
I suggested a warranty return on 02/22, but it might be better to proceed with an exchange for a more expensive, but better-built model.
I would like to see an official test of the 2080ti twin fan; I haven't found one.
Sorry, this is for me the only logical explanation.
Indeed, the 2080 Ti is the cheapest one I found, but since Zotac has a pretty good reputation, I didn't even question it... I wonder if the Founder's Editions also run as hot given that they only have 2 fans as well...
Well, I can forget about overclocking then.
What's weird is that I contacted Zotac directly to ask them, and they replied that the temperature was indeed "a bit" high, and that I could turn to my retailer to make use of the warranty. Which I did, in vain: LDLC assures me that the temperatures for this model are perfectly normal, specifying that the critical threshold for GPU Boost deactivation is more around 86 °C, and that the safety shutdown occurs around 90 °C.
Who to believe? Am I really risking anything by letting it run at 82 °C while playing for many hours, knowing that there's no way I'm going to run the fans at 100% because of the unbearable noise?
Well, I can forget about overclocking then.
What's weird is that I contacted Zotac directly to ask them, and they replied that the temperature was indeed "a bit" high, and that I could turn to my retailer to make use of the warranty. Which I did, in vain: LDLC assures me that the temperatures for this model are perfectly normal, specifying that the critical threshold for GPU Boost deactivation is more around 86 °C, and that the safety shutdown occurs around 90 °C.
Who to believe? Am I really risking anything by letting it run at 82 °C while playing for many hours, knowing that there's no way I'm going to run the fans at 100% because of the unbearable noise?
I'll let you read:
Like previous GeForce GTX models, the GTX 1080 uses a technology for turbo and monitoring its vital parameters: GPU Boost. It operates as follows as soon as an application is launched:
- The GPU is pushed to its maximum voltage and frequency
- A monitoring system kicks in and checks the GPU every 100ms
- If the total power consumption of the card reaches the limit, voltage and frequency are reduced by 6.25 mV/13MHz
- The fan gradually speeds up until it reaches 82 °C
- If the GPU reaches 83 °C, voltage and frequency are reduced until it returns to 82 °C
- If the GPU drops to its base frequency, the temperature can rise above 82 °C
- If the GPU reaches 92 °C, the frequency is significantly reduced and the fan ramps up to 100%
- If the GPU reaches 94 °C, the card shuts down
Source
With this, you should have the necessary information to make LDLC's warranty work ;-)
Like previous GeForce GTX models, the GTX 1080 uses a technology for turbo and monitoring its vital parameters: GPU Boost. It operates as follows as soon as an application is launched:
- The GPU is pushed to its maximum voltage and frequency
- A monitoring system kicks in and checks the GPU every 100ms
- If the total power consumption of the card reaches the limit, voltage and frequency are reduced by 6.25 mV/13MHz
- The fan gradually speeds up until it reaches 82 °C
- If the GPU reaches 83 °C, voltage and frequency are reduced until it returns to 82 °C
- If the GPU drops to its base frequency, the temperature can rise above 82 °C
- If the GPU reaches 92 °C, the frequency is significantly reduced and the fan ramps up to 100%
- If the GPU reaches 94 °C, the card shuts down
Source
With this, you should have the necessary information to make LDLC's warranty work ;-)
Well, it's not supposed to activate without overclocking
In itself, your card can't deliver 100% of its performance "out of the box"
In comparison, I have... never reached the temperature limits of my card, and if I ever did, in any case, I had already started to push the limits with "interesting" overclocking.
In itself, your card can't deliver 100% of its performance "out of the box"
In comparison, I have... never reached the temperature limits of my card, and if I ever did, in any case, I had already started to push the limits with "interesting" overclocking.
Alright, but the problem is that when letting the motherboard manage the fans, it doesn't work, since it automatically increases them to around 65/70%. So in terms of warranty, that won't pass...
Well, I tried a little experiment: instead of positioning the 2 Noctua fans at the front of the case, I decided to attach them together with zip ties so that they are side by side, and, with a bit of tinkering, I managed to secure them just underneath the graphics card.
I was so happy when I managed to get them to stay, already believing in a miracle. And believe it or not, but that doesn't change the temperatures at all! It's really starting to piss me off.
Normally with 2 Noctua fans running at full speed at 1700 RPM just 2 cm from the graphics card, it should at least cool it down by 1 or 2 degrees, right? Can someone explain the logic here?
Furthermore, I have the feeling there is a resolution issue that might be causing unnecessary calculations by the graphics card (pure hypothesis, especially since I don't know much lol)
Earlier, I launched a game (Monster Hunter World) at 1600*900, the graphics card starts to rise to 80 °C and the fan ramps up to 100% automatically until it drops back to 79 °C. Uh, what's with this madness?!
So to test, I decided to switch to 800*600 in Windows display settings and in-game, to see how it went. No overheating issues (thankfully!). I then exited the game, switched back to 1600*900 in Windows, relaunched the game and adjusted the resolution (1600*900), and now, no overheating issues... Except that now the image is absolutely disgusting, it's super pixelated, with huge aliasing effects everywhere, despite having activated the most powerful Antialiasing in the game. It's still the resolution of my screen. And I've noticed this on all my games: as soon as I'm in native resolution, the image is so pixelated and blurry that it feels like I'm in 800*600 (I'm not exaggerating).
Could activating DSR in the Nvidia control panel have something to do with this (the resolution scaling wasn't activated in the game, and I believe the option doesn't even exist)?
How is it possible to reach such high temperatures without even being in full HD? I thought I had seen it all...
P.S.: the card peaks at over 95% usage when activating DSR x4 (so in 3200*1800). At 900p, we're at about 50%. What will it be in 4k? An explosion?
Well, I tried a little experiment: instead of positioning the 2 Noctua fans at the front of the case, I decided to attach them together with zip ties so that they are side by side, and, with a bit of tinkering, I managed to secure them just underneath the graphics card.
I was so happy when I managed to get them to stay, already believing in a miracle. And believe it or not, but that doesn't change the temperatures at all! It's really starting to piss me off.
Normally with 2 Noctua fans running at full speed at 1700 RPM just 2 cm from the graphics card, it should at least cool it down by 1 or 2 degrees, right? Can someone explain the logic here?
Furthermore, I have the feeling there is a resolution issue that might be causing unnecessary calculations by the graphics card (pure hypothesis, especially since I don't know much lol)
Earlier, I launched a game (Monster Hunter World) at 1600*900, the graphics card starts to rise to 80 °C and the fan ramps up to 100% automatically until it drops back to 79 °C. Uh, what's with this madness?!
So to test, I decided to switch to 800*600 in Windows display settings and in-game, to see how it went. No overheating issues (thankfully!). I then exited the game, switched back to 1600*900 in Windows, relaunched the game and adjusted the resolution (1600*900), and now, no overheating issues... Except that now the image is absolutely disgusting, it's super pixelated, with huge aliasing effects everywhere, despite having activated the most powerful Antialiasing in the game. It's still the resolution of my screen. And I've noticed this on all my games: as soon as I'm in native resolution, the image is so pixelated and blurry that it feels like I'm in 800*600 (I'm not exaggerating).
Could activating DSR in the Nvidia control panel have something to do with this (the resolution scaling wasn't activated in the game, and I believe the option doesn't even exist)?
How is it possible to reach such high temperatures without even being in full HD? I thought I had seen it all...
P.S.: the card peaks at over 95% usage when activating DSR x4 (so in 3200*1800). At 900p, we're at about 50%. What will it be in 4k? An explosion?
"Okay, but the problem is that by letting the card manage the fans, it doesn't happen because it automatically increases them to about 65/70%. So in terms of warranty, that's not going to work...
When do you leave your fans at that speed? It overheats, that's a fact. You just have to deal with it. I don't remember my suggested fan profile forbidding reaching that speed...
"straight line at 40% from 0° to 30°, then straight line from 30° (40%) to 65° (100%)"
In any case, it's too late to initiate the exchange now. The legal 15 days have expired quite some time ago.
"I would like to see an official test of the 2080ti twin fan; I haven't found any": Have you found one since then?
Earlier, I launched a game (Monster Hunter World) at 1600*900, the graphics card started to reach 80 °C and the fan ramped to 100% automatically until it cooled back down to 79 °C. What the hell is this?!
I completely agree, something's wrong. At that resolution, the GPU is so underutilized that a 2070 or even a 2060 could produce as many FPS as your 2080ti, as lower resolutions are much more CPU intensive rather than GPU intensive.
"So to run a test, I decided to switch to 800*600 in the Windows display settings and in the game to see how it goes. No overheating issues (thankfully!). I then quit the game, switched back to 1600*900 in Windows, restarted the game, and adjusted the resolution (1600*900, of course), and now, no overheating issues... Except that now the image is absolutely terrible, it’s super pixelated, with huge staircase effects everywhere, despite having enabled the most powerful Antialiasing in the game. Yet, it's the resolution of my screen. And I notice this in all my games: as soon as I'm at native resolution, the image is so pixelated and blurry that I feel like I’m at 800*600 (I’m not exaggerating much).
Could the fact that I activated DSR in the Nvidia control panel be the cause (the resolution scaling wasn’t activated in the game; by the way, I think that option doesn’t even exist)?"
Are you sure you uninstalled and reinstalled the nVidia drivers properly?
"Normally, with 2 Noctua running at full speed at 1700 RPM just 2 cm from the graphics card, it should at least cool it by 1 or 2 degrees, right? Can someone explain the logic?"
Let me explain, and you won’t like it.
If I made you install these Noctua from the start, it's because I don't know where your 2x120mm are getting their air from, but it doesn't seem like a lot, prioritize static pressure over airflow in this case. In other words, your case doesn’t seem great for cooling, to put it mildly. I have no idea how air is getting into the case.
If you can open the front panel, do it. And put those Noctua back in their place :-)
From there, that should fix all your temperature issues. A case with good airflow is the key to effective cooling."
When do you leave your fans at that speed? It overheats, that's a fact. You just have to deal with it. I don't remember my suggested fan profile forbidding reaching that speed...
"straight line at 40% from 0° to 30°, then straight line from 30° (40%) to 65° (100%)"
In any case, it's too late to initiate the exchange now. The legal 15 days have expired quite some time ago.
"I would like to see an official test of the 2080ti twin fan; I haven't found any": Have you found one since then?
Earlier, I launched a game (Monster Hunter World) at 1600*900, the graphics card started to reach 80 °C and the fan ramped to 100% automatically until it cooled back down to 79 °C. What the hell is this?!
I completely agree, something's wrong. At that resolution, the GPU is so underutilized that a 2070 or even a 2060 could produce as many FPS as your 2080ti, as lower resolutions are much more CPU intensive rather than GPU intensive.
"So to run a test, I decided to switch to 800*600 in the Windows display settings and in the game to see how it goes. No overheating issues (thankfully!). I then quit the game, switched back to 1600*900 in Windows, restarted the game, and adjusted the resolution (1600*900, of course), and now, no overheating issues... Except that now the image is absolutely terrible, it’s super pixelated, with huge staircase effects everywhere, despite having enabled the most powerful Antialiasing in the game. Yet, it's the resolution of my screen. And I notice this in all my games: as soon as I'm at native resolution, the image is so pixelated and blurry that I feel like I’m at 800*600 (I’m not exaggerating much).
Could the fact that I activated DSR in the Nvidia control panel be the cause (the resolution scaling wasn’t activated in the game; by the way, I think that option doesn’t even exist)?"
Are you sure you uninstalled and reinstalled the nVidia drivers properly?
"Normally, with 2 Noctua running at full speed at 1700 RPM just 2 cm from the graphics card, it should at least cool it by 1 or 2 degrees, right? Can someone explain the logic?"
Let me explain, and you won’t like it.
If I made you install these Noctua from the start, it's because I don't know where your 2x120mm are getting their air from, but it doesn't seem like a lot, prioritize static pressure over airflow in this case. In other words, your case doesn’t seem great for cooling, to put it mildly. I have no idea how air is getting into the case.
If you can open the front panel, do it. And put those Noctua back in their place :-)
From there, that should fix all your temperature issues. A case with good airflow is the key to effective cooling."
Don't worry, the topic is starting to get quite long for not much result, I understand your frustration!
Once again, thank you very much for all these explanations. I'm just dropping by because I don't have much new to share except for:
I bought Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice. I managed to play it all night yesterday.
=> Usage of the card: +- 78%. Temperature: +- 53°C. So that's pretty cool.
Today, I'm restarting the game. I haven’t made any changes to my system (not even the fan profile in Afterburner, which is set to 60% in all circumstances).
=> Usage: +- 60%. Temperature: 80°C and the fans are cranking up to 100% because it's getting really hot in there.
As I write this message, the game has been running in the background for several minutes. Now I decide to switch back to the game to see if it has calmed down a bit: usage: 78%, temperature 56°C.
I should note that in the game, I am exactly at the same spot as yesterday, so we can't even say there's more to compute on the screen...
That's the anecdote of the day haha :p
Once again, thank you very much for all these explanations. I'm just dropping by because I don't have much new to share except for:
I bought Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice. I managed to play it all night yesterday.
=> Usage of the card: +- 78%. Temperature: +- 53°C. So that's pretty cool.
Today, I'm restarting the game. I haven’t made any changes to my system (not even the fan profile in Afterburner, which is set to 60% in all circumstances).
=> Usage: +- 60%. Temperature: 80°C and the fans are cranking up to 100% because it's getting really hot in there.
As I write this message, the game has been running in the background for several minutes. Now I decide to switch back to the game to see if it has calmed down a bit: usage: 78%, temperature 56°C.
I should note that in the game, I am exactly at the same spot as yesterday, so we can't even say there's more to compute on the screen...
That's the anecdote of the day haha :p
I finally have some news!
I read a Facebook post from Zotac stating that they allow the disassembly of their cards to replace the thermal paste.
This reassured me a bit, so I decided to take it apart and install a more efficient air cooler: https://www.ldlc.com/fr-be/fiche/PB00165523.html
Result: in 4K, Ultra settings, on any game, the card doesn't exceed 57°!
I decided to keep the fan speeds constantly at 100% (to ensure the VRMs are safe), the silence is almost total, there's just a slight whirring sound that disappears if the fans are below 35% (by the way, if there's a solution for this, I'd love to hear it :-)).
However, there is one thing that bothers me a bit, which is that it seems like the case fans are doing whatever they want:
When I decide to set all of them to 100%, so case + CPU + GPU, the noise remains very reasonable. Being all at their maximum, they theoretically shouldn't get any louder than they already are (right?). Yet, as soon as I launch a game, a few minutes later, the noise increasingly gets louder, as if the fans are spinning beyond their capacity!
How can they become even louder when they're supposed to be at 100% before launching any game?
Or maybe the software is tricking me into thinking they're at 100% when they're really not...?
In conclusion, I would say that I'm not unhappy about investing in this hardware (I'm just a bit worried about the warranty, but since they allow disassembly, I think I have a chance), but since the case fans run wild, there is still a certain noise in the room, much more bearable than before, though...
I read a Facebook post from Zotac stating that they allow the disassembly of their cards to replace the thermal paste.
This reassured me a bit, so I decided to take it apart and install a more efficient air cooler: https://www.ldlc.com/fr-be/fiche/PB00165523.html
Result: in 4K, Ultra settings, on any game, the card doesn't exceed 57°!
I decided to keep the fan speeds constantly at 100% (to ensure the VRMs are safe), the silence is almost total, there's just a slight whirring sound that disappears if the fans are below 35% (by the way, if there's a solution for this, I'd love to hear it :-)).
However, there is one thing that bothers me a bit, which is that it seems like the case fans are doing whatever they want:
When I decide to set all of them to 100%, so case + CPU + GPU, the noise remains very reasonable. Being all at their maximum, they theoretically shouldn't get any louder than they already are (right?). Yet, as soon as I launch a game, a few minutes later, the noise increasingly gets louder, as if the fans are spinning beyond their capacity!
How can they become even louder when they're supposed to be at 100% before launching any game?
Or maybe the software is tricking me into thinking they're at 100% when they're really not...?
In conclusion, I would say that I'm not unhappy about investing in this hardware (I'm just a bit worried about the warranty, but since they allow disassembly, I think I have a chance), but since the case fans run wild, there is still a certain noise in the room, much more bearable than before, though...
Hello!
Not bad this feedback. I had already looked at this but I didn't think it was that effective...
I decided to keep the fan speed constantly at 100%
Same for me. I went through the same phase as you, except that I have a Kraken G12 with a 360mm on top. Maxed out at 57° yesterday, during a heatwave with 37° in the room. The VRMs didn't suffer too much since there were 8 hours of gaming without artifacts or anything. Just 2 or 3 crashes but that was the CPU overheating
Just goes to show...
Your noise might be coming from the PSU fan ^^ There’s no reason for your fans to speed up if ALL your fans are manually set to 100%. By the way, that’s also what I had to do this week to make sure the system would stay stable.
Not bad this feedback. I had already looked at this but I didn't think it was that effective...
I decided to keep the fan speed constantly at 100%
Same for me. I went through the same phase as you, except that I have a Kraken G12 with a 360mm on top. Maxed out at 57° yesterday, during a heatwave with 37° in the room. The VRMs didn't suffer too much since there were 8 hours of gaming without artifacts or anything. Just 2 or 3 crashes but that was the CPU overheating
Just goes to show...
Your noise might be coming from the PSU fan ^^ There’s no reason for your fans to speed up if ALL your fans are manually set to 100%. By the way, that’s also what I had to do this week to make sure the system would stay stable.
Hi!
I NEVER thought it could come from the power supply^^ So what can I do about it? Is it possible to replace the fan with a quieter one?
I NEVER thought it could come from the power supply^^ So what can I do about it? Is it possible to replace the fan with a quieter one?
Uh no.
Honestly, don't take it apart.
There are capacitors and coils in there! If you disassemble it and by bad luck touch a component on the primary side, you'll get a shock like never before. If only that was all... if you reassemble it poorly, you create a short circuit... your PC catches fire.
I've experienced that, without disassembling anything, the power supply at the end of its life delivered 12v on all lines... the HDDs burned. If I hadn't been there, the apartment would have gone up in flames.
Instead, buy a good power supply! Lepa, Seasonic... If your power supply is really an 80+ Bronze or lower, if it's over 3 years old, etc... and especially if the noise is unbearable.
That said, be sure of this. Put your ear close to the power supply before and during charging.
Honestly, don't take it apart.
There are capacitors and coils in there! If you disassemble it and by bad luck touch a component on the primary side, you'll get a shock like never before. If only that was all... if you reassemble it poorly, you create a short circuit... your PC catches fire.
I've experienced that, without disassembling anything, the power supply at the end of its life delivered 12v on all lines... the HDDs burned. If I hadn't been there, the apartment would have gone up in flames.
Instead, buy a good power supply! Lepa, Seasonic... If your power supply is really an 80+ Bronze or lower, if it's over 3 years old, etc... and especially if the noise is unbearable.
That said, be sure of this. Put your ear close to the power supply before and during charging.
Ouch... my setup is this one: https://www.ldlc.com/fr-be/fiche/PB00140714.html
Is there really no way to make it quieter?
Is there really no way to make it quieter?
No.
First, make sure the problem comes from there
And if you insist on changing it (because there are no other options), well
here it is
Your power supply should be at least 550W according to this calculator. I went with a safe margin.
First, make sure the problem comes from there
And if you insist on changing it (because there are no other options), well
here it is
Your power supply should be at least 550W according to this calculator. I went with a safe margin.
It's really the power supply that's blowing. Apparently, in the same price range, there's this one:
https://fr.alternate.be/html/product/1417703?gclid=Cj0KCQjwp5_qBRDBARIsANxdcinwd0g0zsEN_XmfTEH--revnvT7j8PLuQiamlMSeAGXJZivIt28V6waApptEALw_wcB
I should have done better research before getting the CX750M
I based my decision on this site that compares different models: https://www.cybenetics.com/index.php?option=database&manfID=28&volts=1
From 33.69 Db, I would drop to 15.08 Db if I decide to buy the RM750x.
https://fr.alternate.be/html/product/1417703?gclid=Cj0KCQjwp5_qBRDBARIsANxdcinwd0g0zsEN_XmfTEH--revnvT7j8PLuQiamlMSeAGXJZivIt28V6waApptEALw_wcB
I should have done better research before getting the CX750M
I based my decision on this site that compares different models: https://www.cybenetics.com/index.php?option=database&manfID=28&volts=1
From 33.69 Db, I would drop to 15.08 Db if I decide to buy the RM750x.
A RM750x is a very good choice. You're getting into the high-end range from Corsair. According to Cowcotland, the voltages are very stable and the consumption is reasonable (thanks to the 80+ Gold certification, or how to pay off your power supply on your EDF bill)
Perfect then :-)
So is everything settled now?
Perfect then :-)
So is everything settled now?
The RM750x is already considered high-end? The one I bought costs barely €15 less, that's crazy
Otherwise, yes, I think everything is set! I just hope the Arctic Accelero will do its job well to cool the RAM and the VRMs because apparently, their heatsink system isn't very efficient according to some. It must also greatly depend on how I placed the thermal pads; I hope I didn't mess it up...
In any case, I really want to thank you for your kindness; it's honestly very nice of you :-D
Otherwise, yes, I think everything is set! I just hope the Arctic Accelero will do its job well to cool the RAM and the VRMs because apparently, their heatsink system isn't very efficient according to some. It must also greatly depend on how I placed the thermal pads; I hope I didn't mess it up...
In any case, I really want to thank you for your kindness; it's honestly very nice of you :-D
Is the RM750x already considered high-end? The one I bought costs barely €15 less, that's crazy.
Now I've seen an even cheaper Seasonic, 750w and Gold:
https://fr.alternate.be/html/product/1523089?gclid=CjwKCAjwyqTqBRAyEiwA8K_4O5BTXbO4c9WthH_XuV4UW7Rg6AnfFgh6nGkZFu8b9c2b2O_E64uhPhoCYnIQAvD_BwE
As long as it's quiet, that's good for me.
Otherwise, yes, I think everything is set! I just hope the Arctic Accelero will do its job well to cool the RAM and the VRMs because apparently, their heatsink system isn't super efficient according to some. It also greatly depends on how I've placed the thermal pads, I hope I didn't mess it up...
In any case, I really want to thank you for your kindness, it's honestly very nice of you :-D
Now I've seen an even cheaper Seasonic, 750w and Gold:
https://fr.alternate.be/html/product/1523089?gclid=CjwKCAjwyqTqBRAyEiwA8K_4O5BTXbO4c9WthH_XuV4UW7Rg6AnfFgh6nGkZFu8b9c2b2O_E64uhPhoCYnIQAvD_BwE
As long as it's quiet, that's good for me.
Otherwise, yes, I think everything is set! I just hope the Arctic Accelero will do its job well to cool the RAM and the VRMs because apparently, their heatsink system isn't super efficient according to some. It also greatly depends on how I've placed the thermal pads, I hope I didn't mess it up...
In any case, I really want to thank you for your kindness, it's honestly very nice of you :-D
I saw your PM, I'm going to respond here just in case someone else has the faith to read this whole post
Seasonic is excellent. It's often Seasonic rebranded or another specialized brand hiding under power supplies like "Cooler Master" or "Corsair." I'm even sure that Seasonic is hiding in the RM range.
If you can get an official modular Seasonic Gold 750W, go for it
I hope so too, honestly changing the cooler on my 1080ti Strix OC has made a difference. And it's not bad at all by default. The one on your GPU can't be better, but I didn't think the Arctic Accelero would be so good :-) so much the better, I'll know
Looking forward to helping out :-) I've learned more here by helping people than on my own, and I like that my advice is useful
Seasonic is excellent. It's often Seasonic rebranded or another specialized brand hiding under power supplies like "Cooler Master" or "Corsair." I'm even sure that Seasonic is hiding in the RM range.
If you can get an official modular Seasonic Gold 750W, go for it
I hope so too, honestly changing the cooler on my 1080ti Strix OC has made a difference. And it's not bad at all by default. The one on your GPU can't be better, but I didn't think the Arctic Accelero would be so good :-) so much the better, I'll know
Looking forward to helping out :-) I've learned more here by helping people than on my own, and I like that my advice is useful