Regenerate Antix or overwrite it

jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member -  
jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member -
Hello,

I installed a dual boot with W7, Antix 16.1 full 64 b, having only a little know-how. Clumsily, I made some deletions using the home-persistent option, including the list of favorite applications related to the Menu. I also deleted the Files icon from the desktop, but I still have the Roxterm icon. I think MX16 or Lubuntu would be better suited anyway (I really only want access to the internet via Firefox and Tbird).

Installation guides are easy to find; there is no uninstallation or replacement of AntiX. Or even simply regeneration.
Can someone help me?
Configuration: Windows / Firefox 53.0

8 answers

  1. jns55
     
    Hello,
    If you want to reinstall another distribution instead of AntiX, just install that distribution on the partitions occupied by AntiX. This will have the effect of overwriting it. Therefore, there's no need to uninstall if you're just going to replace it. However, if you want to remove it without replacing it, it's more complicated because in that case you need to restore the Windows boot manager before deleting the Linux partition.

    I do think that MX16 or Linux Mint XFCE would be more suitable since you will end up with a work environment that looks more like Windows.
    In my opinion, MX16 is one of the best distros based on Debian Jessie. A special mention goes to its installation program, which is understandable even for people who have never touched Linux.

    The home-persistent option is only useful in live use (from the live USB or live CD), so it's not relevant in your case.
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  2. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Thank you very much for this very clear response; to make my choice, I will do a bit more research on MX16 and LinuxMint, particularly their RAM requirements.
    And overwrite...
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    1. jns55
       
      What are the characteristics of the computer?
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      1. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member > jns55
         
        Hello jns55,

        Actually, I have 2 PCs: a 2016 Toshiba Pro, 4GB RAM, 500GB, 2 GHz, so no problem, dual boot W7.
        an old XP, 516MB RAM, 30GB, dedicated to AntiX

        and I would like to keep the same GNU/Linux on both.

        For now, I reloaded AntiX 16 on the Toshiba to calmly study other solutions.
        Q1: If I replace AntiX with MX16 or Mint, will my personal data be saved automatically, or do I need to back them up?
        Q2: How can I know if the firewall is active? I did the procedure that colors the shield to signal that it's on, but apparently there’s no way to know afterwards if everything is in order.

        Thanks again and have a good day.
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      2. jns55 > jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
         
        If you only have 512 MB of RAM, MX16 seems a bit heavy, AntiX was indeed the best solution... But I admit that the IceWM or Fluxbox desktops... are quite disconcerting when you've never tried them, and you have to configure everything manually in rather complex files.

        You can also look at Q4OS (choose the live-cd version to test) which is among the lightest currently. There, you'll have a much more classic desktop very similar to the old XP while remaining lightweight.
        http://www.q4os.org/

        If you reinstall a distribution without formatting the /home partition, you'll keep your data; if you format, pfff it's lost.
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      3. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member > jns55
         
        Thank you.
        I tested Lubuntu, it doesn't seem too bad. I manage to copy my acquired files to my folders and disks from W7. And there, rarely but true, I can do my stuff (e.g. photo editing, burning via Audacity) or save to an external disk.
        Of course, the OSs are a bit different between the machines: 32-bit for one, 64 for the other, so 386 and 64-bit.
        What worries me is that Antix does not support NTFS, which is required by W7. Is there a problem on the horizon?
        I am adding Q4OS to my explorations.
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    2. jns55
       
      Antix does not support ntfs
      Linux can perfectly read and write ntfs partitions; Check that the nfs-3g package is installed (I would be surprised if it weren't).

      And there, rarely it's true, I can do my stuff (e.g. photo editing, burning via Audacity) or save to an external drive.
      If you install the right software, you can do everything.

      There is no visible difference to the naked eye between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of a distro.
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  3. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Hello,

    I'm still using Lubuntu, due to lack of time.
    And I believe I understand that I cannot install Thunderbird from the Ubuntu Software Center. However, I really want it for syncing with my other devices.
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    1. jns55
       
      And I believe I understand that I cannot install Thunderbird from the Ubuntu software center.
      And why is that? All the software in the Ubuntu software center is installable on any variant of Ubuntu!

      Open a terminal and type the following commands:
      sudo apt-get update
      sudo apt-get install thunderbird thunderbird-l10n-fr

      and you're good to go.
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    2. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member > jns55
       
      Good evening,

      the Ubuntu software library presented must be incomplete. To keep it lightweight, I suppose,
      The installed software includes Pidgin, Transmission (Torrent), Sylpheed; software to install = claws, etc. no TBird.
      I will try apt-get and keep you informed. Thank you.
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    3. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member > jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
       
      Corrective: the software library is designated Lubuntu; not Ubuntu.
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    4. jns55
       
      Install Synaptic, it's the historical package manager and it will give you access to the entire Ubuntu software library. Much lighter and more powerful than the software center (which runs very slowly on less powerful PCs).
      To speed things up:
      sudo apt-get install synaptic

      You will find Synaptic in the system tools menu...

      For your information: Lubuntu is an Ubuntu where the Unity desktop has been replaced by the lxde desktop. The rest is a series of lighter software that has been pre-installed. But the base is exactly the same and all the software from the Ubuntu repositories can be installed within the limits of the machine's power, of course.
      You can easily convert your Lubuntu into Xubuntu by installing the xfce desktop and even into Ubuntu by installing Trinity or even into Kubuntu by installing KDE.
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    5. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member > jns55
       
      Thank you again.
      I had remembered having installed, exploratively, Lubuntu on my previous computer, a Vaio with a damaged screen, and this, without any problem. I pulled it out and noticed that its library was much richer, that TBird was preinstalled, and that I had found and installed wicd for my Wifi.
      Because I still can't install the wifi connection on my Toshiba laptop. Through Network connection. Yet the signal is well detected, my WAP key is not rejected... I probably need to check the firewall status. In short, it's not a good idea to contact thunderbird.fr for the moment.
      On synaptic, in the old libraries, I didn't find what I was looking for.

      I’m considering creating a boot CD from my Vaio and transferring it to the Toshiba.

      I had such satisfaction with my old Lubuntu/VAIO that I didn't take the precaution of running Lubuntu/Toshiba in LiveCD for a detailed examination of the functioning.

      Note: I can't devote as much time as I would like to my computing.
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  4. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Good evening,

    1 I experienced failure while trying to install Thunderbird via Ethernet (working according to Edit in connection = service time, whereas for wifi = never) even after using ubuntuUpdater.
    A question of archives, if I understood correctly.
    Of course, I followed the recommended procedures; apt-get update and install thunderbird;

    2 I then wondered why Lubuntu was not satisfactory, whereas it had been in a previous trial. This had prompted me to generalize its use.
    And I finally remembered that I had installed it from the Lubuntu website,
    and not from my CD.

    3 The option antiX remained; but again there was no way to install Thunderbird.
    (because of apulse or pulseaudio ..??)
    Based on the recommended procedures, and from the software center of the Metapaquets installer, with apt-get install thunderbird --yes, I found satisfaction; in LiveCD. On VAIO. which is wrecked, due to an unexpected shutdown, and only boots into 'grub recovery".

    Only remains to install on Toshiba. And fix the 2-hour time difference on W7; minor issue, subject of solutions on the Ubuntu forum. Because AntiX is more accessible to me than Lubuntu.

    I will keep you posted.
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    1. jns55
       
      I experienced failure when trying to install Thunderbird via Ethernet
      Are you sure your internet connection is working?
      If so, you should change the mirror for the Ubuntu repositories; perhaps this mirror isn't responding.
      If that doesn't change anything, please provide me with the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list file (if it doesn't exist, give me the content of the /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder)

      I then wondered why Lubuntu wasn't satisfactory, while it had been in a previous trial. That had prompted me to generalize it.
      And I eventually remembered that I had installed it then from the Lubuntu website,
      and not from my CD.

      The CD you have, how was it produced? Most likely from the ISO image found on the Lubuntu website's download page, so aside from a possible different version number, there shouldn't be a difference. That doesn't explain your problem.
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  5. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    My internet is working. For W7; and for Lubuntu, as it indicates by the communication time.

    For now, since I know how to install Tbird and set up shortcuts on the Desktop, I'm reinstalling antiX on the VAIO (following grub recovery>).
    If access to the Libraries of W7 is as easy as with the old Lubuntu, I will leave it at that.
    Being able, for example, to receive a photo as an attachment and transfer it to My Pictures in W7 where it will be automatically backed up to an external memory.

    Otherwise, I plan to reload Lubuntu, outside of my current LiveCD.
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  6. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Hello,

    Accessing W7 files from Antix being less straightforward, and the procedures described in the forums too arduous for me, I followed my policy and turned to Lubuntu; from which I made sure to reload the ISO.

    Moreover, when I tried to install antiX from the LiveDVD, I didn't find any other option than to install on the entire HDD. With the sharing option, I received the warning: "no file type chosen for the root. Correct it via menu partitioning.” (Gparted?) I couldn't figure it out.

    And this time, I no longer had any Wi-Fi connection issues or installation of Thunderbird, with either Lubuntu 16.04 or 17.04.

    Thanks for the advice received, especially from jns55.
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    1. jns55
       
      And this time, I didn't have any problems with Wi-Fi connectivity or installing Thunderbird, with Lubuntu version 16.04 or 17.04.

      That's the normal situation.

      As for AntiX, you can install it on a specific partition, but you must not only indicate which one but also choose the file system. Apparently, that's what you didn't do.
      Accessing W7 files from AntiX is no more complicated than with Lubuntu. Once the partition is mounted, its content is visible in /media/sdaX (your Windows partition). However, the file manager can sometimes be misleading. It is possible to install pcmanfm to replace it.
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  7. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Thank you.
    I had chosen ext4 for a sda; but honestly, I don't understand much about it. I might come back to it in some time.
    Basically, Lubuntu or antiX, I don't see any notable difference between the file managers. I'm not knowledgeable enough for that...
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  8. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
     
    Hello,

    It was too beautiful!

    My TOSHIBA displays "Grub Recovery > " at startup, which leaves me puzzled.
    My ignorant hypothesis: the hard drive has been erased, so no more recovery possible of W7, since I installed a Lubuntu image from images.cd. iso (or something close, from memory). Total erasure done without my consent.
    If I don't have a DVD copy of my W7 (I know, it's a mistake), I have a copy of my personal data on USB.
    My wish: to get W7 and Lubuntu back on TOSH in dual boot.

    NB My VAIO with its temperamental screen, which I only use as a backup, has also lost its dual boot and runs on Lubuntu 16.04. Thanks to which I can post this.
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    1. jns55
       
      Boot from your installation media (live-cd or live-usb), start a live session (try without installing), open the terminal and type the following command:
      sudo parted -l (letter L)

      Copy and paste the result here.

      The fact that you end up with a grub recovery indicates that it is your Linux partition that has a problem, not your Windows partition. Unless the disk shows signs of nearing the end of its life.

      A hard drive doesn't just get erased like that without any action...
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      1. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member > jns55
         
        The result must be disappointing. Applied on VAIO, the procedure yielded the partition table = Gparted.
        Here it is:

        Please check this version prior to bug reporting.

        If this has not been fixed yet or if you don't know how to check,
        please visit the GNU Parted website:

        http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/

        for further information.

        Your report should contain the version of this release (3.2)
        along with the error message below, the output of

        parted DEVICE unit co print unit s print

        and the following history of commands you entered.
        Also include any additional information about your setup you
        consider important.

        Assertion (metadata_length > 0) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:2313 in
        function add_logical_part_metadata() failed.

        Aborted (core dumped)
        lubuntu@lubuntu:~$

        with my apologies for the fuss; and all my gratitude
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    2. jns55
       
      That's exactly the score table I want to see! And on the Toshiba! Let's not mix up two issues.
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      1. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member > jns55
         
        Sorry for this lack of clarity

        The message, which includes "assertion..;", is indeed the one obtained on Toshiba.
        I found it disappointing. And out of a sense of duty, I sought to obtain the result on VAIO to see the type of expected outcome.

        I can also launch Gparted on Toshiba, if desired, and if this suggestion is not folly.
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      2. jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member > jalfan Posted messages 72 Status Member
         
        PS Why not reinstall Lubuntu?
        It should take the place of the current one, after formatting the corresponding disk, right?

        For now, it's a complete standstill.
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